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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:39:00 -
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Hello Everyone,
Before proceeding, what I ask you to do is to actually read what I am saying:
This thread is designed NOT TO DISCUSS T2 BPO'S/OWNERS/FAIRNESS/GAME BALANCE or any other issues related on HOW WE FEEL THE T2 BPOs are affecting the game.
What this proposal designed to do is simple: WE NEED A DEVELOPER BLOG, OR A RESPONSE to the community at large, both BPO holders, like myself, and those who wish them to remain, and the detractors, who wish for them to be removed or otherwise... modified.
Again this is not a discussion of T2 BPOs, it is a call for the community to actually show the developers that WE NEED AN ANSWER on how they are going to proceed - it has been a long time since we heard anything, and I think, in order to restore some calm or to cause some panic, however it is viewed, we need a blog and a response from the developer team.
Both parties will benefit from this "call for answers", so to speak. So, show your support, does not matter if you are for/against/undecided about the BPOs - but I am sure you want to know, one way or another, what is up.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:39:00 -
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Hello Everyone,
Before proceeding, what I ask you to do is to actually read what I am saying:
This thread is designed NOT TO DISCUSS T2 BPO'S/OWNERS/FAIRNESS/GAME BALANCE or any other issues related on HOW WE FEEL THE T2 BPOs are affecting the game.
What this proposal designed to do is simple: WE NEED A DEVELOPER BLOG, OR A RESPONSE to the community at large, both BPO holders, like myself, and those who wish them to remain, and the detractors, who wish for them to be removed or otherwise... modified.
Again this is not a discussion of T2 BPOs, it is a call for the community to actually show the developers that WE NEED AN ANSWER on how they are going to proceed - it has been a long time since we heard anything, and I think, in order to restore some calm or to cause some panic, however it is viewed, we need a blog and a response from the developer team.
Both parties will benefit from this "call for answers", so to speak. So, show your support, does not matter if you are for/against/undecided about the BPOs - but I am sure you want to know, one way or another, what is up.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.12 16:39:00 -
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Well, considering, I guess NO ONE wants to really know or ask from the developer what is the future of the T2 BPOs will be? I mean we have a thread full of whinage, screaming, and yelling, to removed them - yet, not one of those whiners came here - even though I linked the thread there - to actually do such a simple thing as to ASK?!!!
Anyway, if you actually want to know what do the developers think about T2 BPOs, not engage in pointless discussion about the merits, then show support and request for a new dev blog on T2 BPOs. |
Joe
Umbra Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.12 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jinx Barker NOT TO DISCUSS T2 BPO'S/OWNERS/FAIRNESS/GAME BALANCE
awww, you forgot to stipulate that there shouldnt be any 'Invention vs bpo isk profit' calculations, so expect this thread to get derailed by all the John Maynard Keyes wannabes like every other thread on the topic.
It would be nice to hear from this Devs on this topic more often than once a year at fanfest, its obviously one of the Topics they won't touch with a 10 foot pole in the forums, so CSM, any chance the topic can be riased?
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Czanthria
Ad Astra Vexillum Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:16:00 -
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-- Knowledge is Power! |
Hamfast
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:45:00 -
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While I support this and would like to have a dev response, I do not think we will get one (here) until and unless the CSM brings the issue to CCP...
Perhaps the issue should be a request that the CSM bring to CCP that a weekly dev blog or response to a Player defined issue (in this case the future of T2 BPO's). Problem then being how do the players define an issue to be discussed...
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Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:50:00 -
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Sure, I'd like to know what the devs have planned for BPOs. |
Venkul Mul
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:16:00 -
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supported |
Jurgen Cartis
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:06:00 -
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I would love to see one, though I doubt it would help. The whiners will continue to whine, dev blog or no dev blog. At least then I'll have a one-link answer to them. |
Radix Salvilines
Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:16:00 -
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supported
i stand for bringing those bpos back into game. However instead of the lottery it would be nice the be able to get them through achieving high ranks in faction militia or through lp stores (additionaly having a higher faction standings would be required to be able to get better bpos).
Invention is great i believe... though in my opinion while it its a chance based thing it is not much interresting for some of us. Imho as it is chance based bpcs from invention should be given ome extra stats rather than minus (like base me:20 rather than me:-5).
That would make getting bpc still a bit profitable, while researching t2 bpos should be very hard and expensive :)
The thing that some peoples had the chance to get the bpos and now no-one else can is a bit unfair to me.
Thats my opinion :) |
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Kalinda Veldrin
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:22:00 -
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I support the issue of asking the Dev team to make it known to the community at this time the plans for the T2 BPO's.
p.s. Don't forget to tick the support box or it won't show as support. |
Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:30:00 -
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Tech 2 BPOs reward the people that put the time and effort into the game.
When CCP decided that they were going to remove tech 2 BPOs from being brought into the game, nobody received any more tech 2 BPOs.
That is fair.
CCP has also openly stated that they will not be reinstating the T2 Lottery.
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The Speaker
The Clue Factory
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Posted - 2008.06.13 00:39:00 -
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I'd love to hear from CCP what they really think about T2 BPO within the existing economy.
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Joe
Umbra Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:08:00 -
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I got the thumb shimmie working
I support this Idea, and would like to see clearer lines of communication from Devs.
Will a CSM member bring this topic up at the meeting, it isnt asking for epic changes, simply a Dev response.
Pe0w |
Tribalist
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Posted - 2008.06.13 10:50:00 -
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signed |
marie blueprint
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:18:00 -
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i want the chance for new t2 bpos make it a higher invention using t1 bpos 10x the data core special decryptor but at lest give us the chance!! |
Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:41:00 -
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An answer from ccp would be nice yeah :) |
Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.13 17:53:00 -
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Considering how...well, controversial the issue appears to be for allot of people, I am surprised that such a modest number actually wants to know the answers, really am surprised.
I guess, as I mentioned elsewhere, I still firmly believe that the provocateurs on both sides of the so-called "T2 BPO" issue are really afraid to ask the developers of the game real questions, because they are really afraid of the answers. |
Farrqua
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 17:57:00 -
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I support the idea of getting a clear statement we all can work with. Whether people are in agreement or not with the answer. We all can at least have an understanding. |
Dominik Miethling
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Posted - 2008.06.14 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Dominik Miethling on 14/06/2008 16:23:35 qft
Edit: And sorry Jinx, but the forum is big and people dont have time to read evrything :)
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.14 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dominik Miethling
qft
Edit: And sorry Jinx, but the forum is big and people dont have time to read evrything :)
I know, I just want to get a momentum going where all those who are involved in T2 BPO issue can get behind - and actually do something positive, like elicit a proper dev response, other than: "We do not have current plans to remove them" at Fanfest.
Appreciate the support.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.29 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jinx Barker on 29/06/2008 18:35:04 This thread was meant to be an experiment in so called democracy - was primarily due to the fact that there is a vocal minority who always whines about T2 BPOs and a challenge to them to put their money where their mouth is.
I did not see those whiney alts here, so....
I officially declare an experiment a success - more people want to whine and ***** and moan about the T2 BPOs than they really want to find the truth, or have a definitive answer.
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Siebenthal
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Posted - 2008.07.15 14:12:00 -
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.15 14:45:00 -
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More tech II BPOs, with tech III on the horizon maybe it's time to seed them openly with agents, as high end loot drops and on the open market?
The 'problem' isn't tech II BPOs, it's static moon mineral deposits and the monopoly there.
If anything ME research on tech II BPOs should cut down a lot more on materials needed.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Gaogan
Gallente Solar Storm Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.07.15 15:04:00 -
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Ummm... the devs HAVE spoken... they are happy with the system the way it is and aren't going to change it.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.15 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jinx Barker on 15/07/2008 15:07:45
Originally by: Gaogan Ummm... the devs HAVE spoken... they are happy with the system the way it is and aren't going to change it.
They have spoken very quietly about it. During fan fest, made a statement that there are, and I quote, "no immediate plans for the Tech 2 BPOs."
This thread was meant to shut the whiners up, and really a Dev Blog would be nice, that way I could just link it, every time someone whines about it. You see, saying to people Developers SAID this at Fan Fest, and pointing their little noses to a Dev Blog where they can read it for themselves are two different things.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.15 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus More tech II BPOs, with tech III on the horizon maybe it's time to seed them openly with agents, as high end loot drops and on the open market?
The 'problem' isn't tech II BPOs, it's static moon mineral deposits and the monopoly there.
If anything ME research on tech II BPOs should cut down a lot more on materials needed.
This is not Tech 2 BPO discussion Denton.... It is either "YES" I want to hear what Devs think, or "NO" I do not want to hear what Devs think about T2 BPO future.
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Dr Aryandi
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Posted - 2008.07.15 17:15:00 -
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CCP have already answered the question. They have no plans for tech 2 BPOs at this time but that may change in the future.
Of course that could have changed since they said that since it was a year ago so a thumbs up from me.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.15 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Aryandi Of course that could have changed since they said that since it was a year ago so a thumbs up from me.
That, Dr Aryadi, is the subtle point that many fail to glean for the whole affair. As I said, many on both sides of the issue would much rather prefer to stick their heads into the proverbial sand than actually ask a question and demand a definitive, next few years perhaps, answer.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.07.15 18:51:00 -
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Well, it'd be nice if CCP could finally put and end to the (speculation based) debate and make their plans for T2 BPOs public.
So this issue has my support. -------- Ideas for: Mining |
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