Originally by: Grarr Dexx

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There is no killmail change, just the little faction:none or faction:whatever add-on. Killboards are not affiliated with CCP or Eve Online in any way, thus they didn't need to add it.

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Originally by: Arous Drephius

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And they swapped the order of Corp and Alliance round.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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CCP are human too you know.

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Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby

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COmbine this with Eve-Dev being offline due to the data center it was in having a little fire and this makes a minor issue....

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Originally by: Arous Drephius

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Like, say, the killmail changes?

You had a section in the patch notes for "CONCORD & Kill Mails", and you didn't think to put this in there?

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Originally by: RaTTuS

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Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby

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COmbine this with Eve-Dev being offline due to the data center it was in having a little fire and this makes a minor issue....

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see Eve Dev

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Originally by: Arous Drephius

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Like, say, the killmail changes?

You had a section in the patch notes for "CONCORD & Kill Mails", and you didn't think to put this in there?

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Could you elaborate a little more about what was omitted?

Are you refering to the client not generating kill mails or killboards being unable to accept them?

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Originally by: Plumpy McPudding

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Originally by: Arous Drephius

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And they swapped the order of Corp and Alliance round.

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BULL****! I'M CLOSING MY 18 ACCOUNTS OVER THIS! WHO WANTS MY STUFF!?

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Originally by: Andrue

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As a developer I would say that it's the responsibility of the third party to handle it. It'd be nice if CCP had mentioned it but I don't see it as essential. It's not as if they advertise KB support. They make information available and third parties use at their own risk and in their own way.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Dude, there's ALWAYS something slipping through.
CCP are human too you know.

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Originally by: Arous Drephius

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True, but the third parties should at least be given some information that there is going to be a change.

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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab

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Originally by: Arous Drephius

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True, but the third parties should at least be given some information that there is going to be a change.

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I would have to say the KB devs should make less ****ty code in that case, if it can't even handle reordering and addition of new unknown entries.

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Originally by: Arous Drephius

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Like, say, the killmail changes?

You had a section in the patch notes for "CONCORD & Kill Mails", and you didn't think to put this in there?

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Could you elaborate a little more about what was omitted?

Are you refering to the client not generating kill mails or killboards being unable to accept them?

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Dude, there's ALWAYS something slipping through.
CCP are human too you know.

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Originally by: Eventy One

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Dude, there's ALWAYS something slipping through.
CCP are human too you know.

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They may be human but they're Jove human. Jove humans don't make mistakes

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Originally by: Doc Fury

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Edited by: Doc Fury on 11/06/2008 14:30:01

Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab

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Originally by: Arous Drephius

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True, but the third parties should at least be given some information that there is going to be a change.

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I would have to say the KB devs should make less ****ty code in that case, if it can't even handle reordering and addition of new unknown entries.

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So...I'm guessing you aren't a developer.

If you can dependably write code that can predict and use unknown additions to a non-standardized text file data source, I bet CCP and many other companies have a job waiting for you that includes a fat paycheck.

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Quote:

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Victim: Identity Removed
Corp: Republic Military School
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Nikkishina
Security: 0.4
Damage Taken: 346

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Quote:

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Faction: None
Magical Trevor: Is Cool
Whatever: Doesn't matter

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Quote:

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$a_matches = array();

// Ensure we can grab the victim data
if (preg_match('/(Victim:.*)Involved parties:/si', $s_killMail, $a_matches)) {
// Send it to be parsed
$a_pilotInfo = parsePilotPart($a_matches[1]);
// Print out the results
print_r($a_pilotInfo);
} else {
echo 'Cannot find victim data.';
}

/**
* Takes a string representing the pilot information
* in a killmail. Returns an associative array of
* header => data.
*
* @param string $s_pilotPart The pilot information.
* @return array
*/
function parsePilotPart($s_pilotPart) {
$a_results = array();
foreach (explode("\n", $s_pilotPart) as $s_line) {
// We are looking for Header: Data
$a_parts = explode(':', $s_line, 2);

// Not a very rigorous check, but for the purposes
// illustration, it is perfectly fine.
if (count($a_parts) == 2) {
$a_results[$a_parts[0]] = trim($a_parts[1]);
}
}
return $a_results;
}

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Quote:

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Array
(
[Victim] => Identity Removed
[Corp] => Republic Military School
[Alliance] => NONE
[Faction] => None
[Destroyed] => Capsule
[System] => Nikkishina
[Security] => 0.4
[Damage Taken] => 346
[Magical Trevor] => Is Cool
[Whatever] => Doesn't Matter
)

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Originally by: Andrea Griffin

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Edited by: Andrea Griffin on 11/06/2008 16:04:21

Originally by: Doc Fury

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Edited by: Doc Fury on 11/06/2008 14:30:01

Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab

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Originally by: Arous Drephius

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True, but the third parties should at least be given some information that there is going to be a change.

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I would have to say the KB devs should make less ****ty code in that case, if it can't even handle reordering and addition of new unknown entries.

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So...I'm guessing you aren't a developer.

If you can dependably write code that can predict and use unknown additions to a non-standardized text file data source, I bet CCP and many other companies have a job waiting for you that includes a fat paycheck.

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Where's my paycheck?

Seriously - the killmail format is not very complicated. The addition of a line or two here, along with the change in order of some of the data, should not break the parsing routine. This is not rocket science here. It is just some string parsing.

Yes, I am a developer.

Notice how in kill mails, there is a header part, a colon, and some data. As an example:

Quote:

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Victim: Identity Removed
Corp: Republic Military School
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Nikkishina
Security: 0.4
Damage Taken: 346

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Oh noes, what ever will I do when this is added?

Quote:

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Faction: None
Magical Trevor: Is Cool
Whatever: Doesn't matter

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Yes, I use Hungarian notation. I apologize for the lack of spacing, but I don't see a preformatted tag in the forum software.

Quote:

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$a_matches = array();

// Ensure we can grab the victim data
if (preg_match('/(Victim:.*)Involved parties:/si', $s_killMail, $a_matches)) {
// Send it to be parsed
$a_pilotInfo = parsePilotPart($a_matches[1]);
// Print out the results
print_r($a_pilotInfo);
} else {
echo 'Cannot find victim data.';
}

/**
* Takes a string representing the pilot information
* in a killmail. Returns an associative array of
* header => data.
*
* @param string $s_pilotPart The pilot information.
* @return array
*/
function parsePilotPart($s_pilotPart) {
$a_results = array();
foreach (explode("\n", $s_pilotPart) as $s_line) {
// We are looking for Header: Data
$a_parts = explode(':', $s_line, 2);

// Not a very rigorous check, but for the purposes
// illustration, it is perfectly fine.
if (count($a_parts) == 2) {
$a_results[$a_parts[0]] = trim($a_parts[1]);
}
}
return $a_results;
}

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This produces an associative array:

Quote:

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Array
(
[Victim] => Identity Removed
[Corp] => Republic Military School
[Alliance] => NONE
[Faction] => None
[Destroyed] => Capsule
[System] => Nikkishina
[Security] => 0.4
[Damage Taken] => 346
[Magical Trevor] => Is Cool
[Whatever] => Doesn't Matter
)

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Where is my fat paycheck for string parsing that an entry level developer could do?

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Originally by: Andrea Griffin

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Where is my fat paycheck for string parsing that an entry level developer could do?

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Quote:

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#!/usr/bin/ruby
mail = <<EOF
2008.06.11 17:51

Victim: SomePlayer
Alliance: SomeAlliance
Corp: SomeCorp
Destroyed: Vagabond
System: ABCD-7
Security: 0.0
Damage Taken: 10515

Involved parties:
...CUT...
EOF

header = mail.scan(/Victim:[\s\S]*(?=Involved parties:)/).to_s
values = header.scan(/^([ \w]+)\:\s(.+)$/)
kill = Hash[*values.collect { |v| [v, v*2] }.flatten]

puts "Poor #{kill["Victim"]} of #{kill["Corp"]} Corp from #{kill["Alliance"]} Alliance came under fire."
puts "And after taking just #{kill["Damage Taken"]} damage,"
puts "his shiny #{kill["Destroyed"]} blew up."

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