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Crellion
Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.12 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Battleships? duh. You want something the same size to counter something. I mean something bigger always counters something smaller one way or another. Every answer shouldn't be: Bring a BS, Carrier and a Titan.
Falcons are used in cruiser sized gangs. If you have a cruiser sized gang of your own you don't want to drag along a battleship just to counter a damn recon.
So let's just leave the silly battleships out of this. Cruiser sized counters....Let's hear them. Oh and the ones that actually work on a falcon with bookmarks, ie forget the curse.
Are you thick or are you just pretending to be? Go wash dishes :)
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Crellion
Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Crellion
Are you thick or are you just pretending to be? Go wash dishes :)
I don't see any arguments. Atleast try using some.
Lol ok arguments then: Saying "dont use BS counters show me how its done with cruisers" is nonesense. Example the Eagle. On a sniper set it looks effing awsome if BSs were not allowed to play but they are and they are all over the place and so while the Eagle looks good on paper its niche is the size of 1/5 my backpocket because of the fact that BSs are allowed to play wherever HACs and reckons are in pvp (fw might give an alternative bu dont be pedantic).
The same is true for Falcons. There is no easy cruiser counter but whenever Falcons try to play with an enemy gang (not even fleet) of long range BSs they go pop-pop-pop.
So your post trying to exclude BS snipers (available to all races and very effective as they can 2 volley a Falcon) and say Eagle is the only counter (which is available only to Caldari - the same race as the Falcons and is a very poor counter because it is easier to jam than a BS and has a fraction of the dps and only kinetic and thermal) was, respectfully, moronic, Lyria.
The only reason Falcons are used a lot in long range is because of nanos being fotm... an abuse to counter another abuse.
Now I think I know you a bit ingame and did not want to write a large post like this to state the obvious and thought a tongue in cheak one line rebuff would be better as the arguments should be obvious to you. I thought you allready know all the above and was just politicking...
It appears you actually needed to be told... well ... enjoy... |

Crellion
Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:22:00 -
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Sounds good to me if you happen to be cloaked near the Falcon but you have to use many stealth bombers claoked at random places to hope be near a Falcon using a random ssniper spot anywhere withn 200kms of the gate where the fight is or whatnot... Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |

Crellion
Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Crellion
Lol ok arguments then: Saying "dont use BS counters show me how its done with cruisers" is nonesense. Example the Eagle. On a sniper set it looks effing awsome if BSs were not allowed to play but they are and they are all over the place and so while the Eagle looks good on paper its niche is the size of 1/5 my backpocket because of the fact that BSs are allowed to play wherever HACs and reckons are in pvp (fw might give an alternative bu dont be pedantic).
The same is true for Falcons. There is no easy cruiser counter but whenever Falcons try to play with an enemy gang (not even fleet) of long range BSs they go pop-pop-pop.
You don't seem to understand ship size balance. It is quite imbalanced that a cruiser sized vessel desperately needs battleships and bigger to effectively be countered. If you don't understand why this is an issue you need to start playing this game or just for one minute step out of your falcon alt. Or maybe invest in a new brain. See what I did there? I insulted you too.
1) I have NEVER flown a Falcon, ever. I hate ECM and would like to see it removed from the game altogether.
2) BSs are not desperately needed, they are ALREADY THERE unless if you only fo nanostuff.
3) About me playing the game... Check any major alliance KB I should be there more likely than not... or browse this http://kills.eve-war.com/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=3801 (its not a killmail link its a stats page - note for mods) or just keep talking nonsense...
ANyway I am not replying to anymore of your posts as you are obviously prejudiced and talking out fo your arse and I am just not interested in this sort of ... discussion (?) Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
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