Forgive my lack of knowledge about the Mineral Market and its effects on costs.

What do people speculate this means for the game? How will this effect the market?

before the drone regions, zyd was trading for around 3500 if i remember right. zyd was the bread n butter of 0.0 mining

I don't remember it that high. I know that 1700-1800 was the Dec 2009 price range.

Anyone have a market site with deeper history then EVEMarketeer?

I don't remember it that high. I know that 1700-1800 was the Dec 2009 price range.

Anyone have a market site with deeper history then EVEMarketeer?

I dug into our internal records just for the fun of it. Zydrine traded in the 3,700 to 3,900 range throughout most of 2006, peaking around 4,200 in April of that year. A log entry in our archives dated April 16, 2006 shows two blocks of Zydrine being sold at a price of 4,249 per unit. This may approximate the time and price at which Zydrine peaked. Following the "Revelations" patch, Zyd tumbled to 3,050 per unit by December 31, 2006 and continued plunging to its all-time low of near 700 per unit last year.

With the Rorqual, the low price of the Hulk compared to 2006, the minerals anomalies and the masses of miners in 0.0, I guess the zyrine price will rise over 1000, but not over 2000 in mid term. It's actually safer to mine in 0.0 than in high sec now. I predict a huge press on the mineral market in the future too.

Well, you can make a safe assumption: The ISK/hr from mining ABCs in null-sec will need to approach the ISK/hr from ratting or running anoms. Assume that you'll have good Orca/Rorqual support and that each Hulk will pull 150k m3 of ore per hour.

As a rough guess, that means a target income of around 90M ISK/hr per hulk pilot

As a rough guess, that means a target income of around 90M ISK/hr per hulk pilot.

Crokite and bistot produce a lot of zydrine and I gather they're a little more prevalent than arkanor.

This is a market manipulation, not a supply and demand issue.

A Nyx uses 825K Zydrine
A Nyx uses 1.1 Billion Trit.

Zydrine is over rated.

To the drum of all of Gurista space has only 1 sytstem with naturally occuring Arkonor. That system is 9p40.

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So... because you need more trit Zydrine is worthless?

At 350 isk/m3 (current levels), I get 1860 zyd and 2430 meg
At 500 isk/m3 (roughly 54-60 mil/hr), I get 2760 zyd and 3420 meg
At 650 isk/m3 (roughly 70-78 mil/hr), I get 3670 zyd and 4410 mega

Today
Trit 4.58 Pye 5.31 Mex 54.96 Iso 73.74 Nocx 567 Zyd 1173 Mega 2733 Morph 498

Guesses
Trit 5.00 Pye 6.00 Mex 60 Iso 100 Nocx 500 Zyd 2200 Mega 3600 Morph 650
Veld 150 Scor 133 Pyro 173 Plag 170 Omb 110 Kern 181 Croc 406 Bist 426 Ark 48

So... because you need more trit Zydrine is worthless? I'm digging your logic. I'll take your Zydrine off your hands if you don't want it.

Things that use Zydrine require very little of it. many things don't require any Zydrine at all (T2 Heavy Missle Launchers)

And that point is irrelevant since you didn't consider supply too. Supply of zydrine is much lower and harder than supply of trit.

That's what I am saying though, Zydrine supply is not low. It has never been low. The amount of Zydrine needed for the percentages used in productions could be met in reproc.

Reprocessing drone poo. That apparently will change.

That's what I am saying though, Zydrine supply is not low. It has never been low. The amount of Zydrine needed for the percentages used in productions could be met in reproc. Even if they do remove drone poo, they nerfed NOS years ago and smartbombs were never any good. Drop loots on off meta emissions transfer loot, NOS type mods and smartbombs alone will carry Zydrine demand. People might have stopped looting it because of Drone poo markets but once drone poo is gone, people will start running loot reproc sales again. We have never been in a shortage of Zydrine in EVE.