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Cap II GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 05:58:00 - [1] I find it very troubling that the head of the organization designed to bring player concerns to CCP cannot seem to communicate in a manner that does not involve a giant wall of text. Clear and concise communication is not too much to expect from someone in such a position. Therefore I propose a 50 word limit on any response or proposal Jade Constantine gives on a particular subject be it to members of the community, CSM members, or CCP.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.06.12 06:02:00 - [2] Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 12/06/2008 06:02:55 How about I give you the finger ...and you give me my 4000 characters? </neo>
Fallorn GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 06:06:00 - [3] Edited by: Fallorn on 12/06/2008 06:06:15 How many post has Jade written today on the combined forums he visits and how many characters has he used? I'm going to guess well over 100k That is in one day no one should have to read through his WALL OF TEXT that say nothing.
Jasharin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 06:11:00 - [4] i guess i support this. as you can see i have the required thumbs up
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.06.12 06:13:00 - [5] Originally by: Fallorn Edited by: Fallorn on 12/06/2008 06:06:15 How many post has Jade written today on the combined forums he visits and how many characters has he used? I'm going to guess well over 100k That is in one day no one should have to read through his WALL OF TEXT that say nothing. Amazingly enough, I think you've gotten your wish - nobody does have to read it. I'd be hard-pressed to think of a more pathetic request than someone sitting in an Internet forum complaining about there being too many words. If you don't like it this way, 4chan isn't exactly hard to find.
Cap II GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 06:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto Originally by: Fallorn Edited by: Fallorn on 12/06/2008 06:06:15 How many post has Jade written today on the combined forums he visits and how many characters has he used? I'm going to guess well over 100k That is in one day no one should have to read through his WALL OF TEXT that say nothing. Amazingly enough, I think you've gotten your wish - nobody does have to read it. I'd be hard-pressed to think of a more pathetic request than someone sitting in an Internet forum complaining about there being too many words. If you don't like it this way, 4chan isn't exactly hard to find. Clearly you have misread my post kind sir. My concern is that the chair of the CSM and ultimately our voice cannot make to the point statements on seemingly anything. He will have to communicate things to CCP. CCP being made up of various Producers, Programmers, QA staff of course cannot be required to read 500 words when 50 will do just fine.
Malfournis	Posted - 2008.06.12 06:27:00 - [7] /me adds his signature, and why not? It could only benefit the head-chair-person-thingie-whatever-you-wish-to-call-them, that they have one duty, and one only- to keep things in order. Doing so shouldn't require a huge wall of text that makes everybody groan to see.
Gorion Wassenar Stimulus	Posted - 2008.06.12 07:15:00 - [8] The total absurdity of this suggestion should tell you everything about this "issue" and its supporters.
Fallorn GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 07:25:00 - [9] Edited by: Fallorn on 12/06/2008 07:25:04 Originally by: Gorion Wassenar The total absurdity of the smirk on my characters face should tell you everything about this "Gorion Wassenar" and being pompous. I just hit random for my character.
sophisticatedlimabean Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.06.12 07:33:00 - [10] Originally by: Cap II I find it very troubling that the head of the organization designed to bring player concerns to CCP cannot seem to communicate in a manner that does not involve a giant wall of text. Clear and concise communication is not too much to expect from someone in such a position. Therefore I propose a 50 word limit on any response or proposal Jade Constantine gives on a particular subject be it to members of the community, CSM members, or CCP. So you seem to think that you are being forced to read all that text?. I am sure if he just gave bullet points that you would complain that he was not being descriptive enough. The real issue is you. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
Fallorn GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 07:43:00 - [11] Not really bullet points work for me. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Gorion Wassenar Stimulus	Posted - 2008.06.12 08:03:00 - [12] Originally by: Fallorn I just hit random for my character. They have implants to fix that you know. Now if you can come up with an actual reason other than your own laziness for why you should be accommodated please do.
Siresa Talesi Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.06.12 16:45:00 - [13] Edited by: Siresa Talesi on 12/06/2008 16:45:57 Any chance we can get a moratorium on moronic, time-wasting, so-called "issues" like this? Didn't think so. Oh well, I guess it's too much to expect the vaunted maturity of the EVE playerbase to spend it's time on issues that actually matter. I thought the petty WoW-like squabbling was supposed to be beneath us.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.06.12 16:53:00 - [14] How about instead of one player having a word limit we think about this issue from a different direction and look at maybe having a post limit of 100 posts from each alliance per day on Jita Park and Assembly Hall? CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
Cap II GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 17:04:00 - [15] Edited by: Cap II on 12/06/2008 17:05:58 Unfortunately such a rule would be exploited by those dishonorable people willing to corp hop in order to post! Further, my proposal would force the chair to "tl;dr" as it were, not so that I don't have to read it, but so that the poor souls at CCP are not forced to endure such vicious onslaughts of verbal and text based diarrhea. My point is that walls of text are in no way helpful in the real world, nor do professionals communicate in this manner. If we the people of this game and this psuedo-government are to have any success we need to ensure that the chairman is able to communicate in a professional and realistic manner. Thank you for your time. Sincerly, Cap II Honourable Space Captain Goonfleet Goonswarm Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Vinata GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 17:07:00 - [16] Edited by: Vinata on 12/06/2008 17:08:38 Edited by: Vinata on 12/06/2008 17:07:39 Originally by: Jade Constantine How about instead of one player having a word limit we think about this issue from a different direction and look at maybe having a post limit of 100 posts from each alliance per day on Jita Park and Assembly Hall? I think we could make a fair compromise by making that post limit into a character limit. Each alliance would have a maximum amount of characters they could use in any one posting day here. Maybe we should have it scale to the size of an alliance?
Toffles GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 17:14:00 - [17] Originally by: Jade Constantine How about instead of one player having a word limit we think about this issue from a different direction and look at maybe having a post limit of 100 posts from each alliance per day on Jita Park and Assembly Hall? A fair system would probably be to base it on alliance size. I'll never understand why you seem so surprised that a 5,100 person alliance posts more than your 164 person alliance.
Talkuth Rel Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.06.12 17:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Vinata Edited by: Vinata on 12/06/2008 17:08:38 Edited by: Vinata on 12/06/2008 17:07:39 Originally by: Jade Constantine How about instead of one player having a word limit we think about this issue from a different direction and look at maybe having a post limit of 100 posts from each alliance per day on Jita Park and Assembly Hall? I think we could make a fair compromise by making that post limit into a character limit. Each alliance would have a maximum amount of characters they could use in any one posting day here. Maybe we should have it scale to the size of an alliance? Bad idea, we'd never hear anything from anyone else in Jade's alliance
Dohl Khrensen Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.06.12 19:06:00 - [19] No support. The OP couldn't even frame his ridiculous proposal in 50 words or less.
Asuri Kinnes Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.06.12 19:14:00 - [20] Originally by: Cap II I find it very troubling that the head of the organization designed to bring player concerns to CCP cannot seem to communicate in a manner that does not involve a giant wall of text. Clear and concise communication is not too much to expect from someone in such a position. Therefore I propose a 50 word limit on any response or proposal Jade Constantine gives on a particular subject be it to members of the community, CSM members, or CCP. And an eight word limit to any response! AK Honor is that which you do when no one else is looking. Ethics, Honor and Respect. Without the first two, you can't buy the last one...
Deldrac Bat Country Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.06.12 19:47:00 - [21] You guys need to realise that the CSM is all about the comedy. Jade's role as bat**** insane chairman is an essential part of the show.
Kirra Liu H O R I Z O N	Posted - 2008.06.12 20:16:00 - [22] Simple way would be to just ask the likes of the CSM council to, reply to topics in a clear and precise mannor without adding a load of bull****. The last thing we need is walls of text when the same post could be made in one paragraph making it easy and a pleasure to read.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.06.12 20:30:00 - [23] Originally by: Jade Constantine How about instead of one player having a word limit we think about this issue from a different direction and look at maybe having a post limit of 100 posts from each alliance per day on Jita Park and Assembly Hall? You see that? Yeah, that's the moral high ground, disappearing into the distance behind you. ------------------ Fix the forums!
Che Biko	Posted - 2008.06.12 21:08:00 - [24] Edited by: Che Biko on 12/06/2008 21:08:40 Post 1: 51+ words, somehow not clearly communicating the point, why else write: Post 6: 51+ words, somehow not clearly communicating the point, why else write: Post 15: 100+ words. to be continued...? Clearly it is impossible to clearly communicate certain things in 50 words. But my main point is that this kind of 'advise' should be given directly to the person in question. This is hardly an 'issue' for the CSM.
Sabrina Al'Kian	Posted - 2008.06.12 21:17:00 - [25] I can only assume you're making a bad joke. Jade may not be concise, but at least he's thorough; there isn't really any way to misinterpret his posts. If a topic requires a less-than-fifty-word response, it probably isn't worth debating, is it? Also, these are issues we're supposed to be "voting on" so that they can be taken to CCP; why the hell would this ever make it out of the assembly hall?
Greyhair	Posted - 2008.06.18 19:11:00 - [26]
Zaran Darkstar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.06.18 19:15:00 - [27] Originally by: Cap II I find it very troubling that the head of the organization designed to bring player concerns to CCP cannot seem to communicate in a manner that does not involve a giant wall of text. Clear and concise communication is not too much to expect from someone in such a position. Therefore I propose a 50 word limit on any response or proposal Jade Constantine gives on a particular subject be it to members of the community, CSM members, or CCP. Superb troll post! Keep it up!

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