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Gabriel Darkefyre
Crystal Ship
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Posted - 2008.06.12 11:53:00 -
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In order to cut down on the spam in this forum, both for and against ideas by people voting with all the alts on their accounts I propose the following changes.
1. Each account holder delegates one of their characters on that account to hold the vote for that account. This choice cannot be changed once made.
2. Only those characters marked as holding a vote can post in this forum.
3. (optional) You may delegate your vote from your Alt Account to your Main Account. This means that none of the characters on your Alt Account may post in this forum, however your Main Account Voter will be able to cast the delegated votes. This would be represented in the Corp Ticker although unlike the Ticker this cannot be turned off.
You may recover your Alt Account's vote at any time reducing the votes of the Main on any issue he's voted for.
So, for example a Persons Ticker will end up looking like this
RandomVoter1
(Represents 3 Accounts)
Race
Corporation
Alliance
This could also be used as part of the voting process for the CSM itself thus boosting turnout as it'll make it easier to cast all of your available votes rather than having to log in each account to vote individually.
So, what do you guys think? Good idea or back to the drawing board?
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Crystal Ship
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Posted - 2008.06.12 11:53:00 -
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In order to cut down on the spam in this forum, both for and against ideas by people voting with all the alts on their accounts I propose the following changes.
1. Each account holder delegates one of their characters on that account to hold the vote for that account. This choice cannot be changed once made.
2. Only those characters marked as holding a vote can post in this forum.
3. (optional) You may delegate your vote from your Alt Account to your Main Account. This means that none of the characters on your Alt Account may post in this forum, however your Main Account Voter will be able to cast the delegated votes. This would be represented in the Corp Ticker although unlike the Ticker this cannot be turned off.
You may recover your Alt Account's vote at any time reducing the votes of the Main on any issue he's voted for.
So, for example a Persons Ticker will end up looking like this
RandomVoter1
(Represents 3 Accounts)
Race
Corporation
Alliance
This could also be used as part of the voting process for the CSM itself thus boosting turnout as it'll make it easier to cast all of your available votes rather than having to log in each account to vote individually.
So, what do you guys think? Good idea or back to the drawing board? |
Gabriel Darkefyre
Crystal Ship
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Posted - 2008.06.12 11:54:00 -
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Posting only to support my own OP.
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Crystal Ship
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Posted - 2008.06.12 11:54:00 -
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Posting only to support my own OP. |
J'Mkarr Soban
Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.06.12 12:19:00 -
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These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work. |
Tesseract d'Urberville
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2008.06.12 13:40:00 -
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Sounds nice (and supported), but it might be more difficult to set up than it's worth. |
White Ronin
Screenout
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:23:00 -
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Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:30:00 -
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I personally wouldn't mind that being implemented for all forums (although some people use multiple characters legitimately for roleplaying etc), it definately stops a lot of the trolling in here.
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Thanks for all that supported me. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:41:00 -
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Definitely agree.
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |
Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:45:00 -
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Sure, go ahead.
I would also ask to introduce an "Against" or "Not Supported" option as well. That way we can see right away how many support it, and how many against, because people post in the tread w/o supporting it or while they have already supported - and it makes it difficult gauging the popularity of the item.
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Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:47:00 -
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Absolutely. I don't know how you would make 3) work, or if its even necessary, but the '1 account-1 vote' policy should be in place.
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therealdhs
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:52:00 -
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It shouldn't matter what part of your account votes, it should just look to see if yuor account has voted. Why should some people get two votes when I only have one?
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Bender: Ahhh, what an awful dream. Ones and zeroes everywhere... and I thought I saw a two.
Fry: Don't worry, Bender: there's no such thing as two. |
Czanthria
Ad Astra Vexillum
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:09:00 -
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Knowledge is Power! |
Faekurias
Black Legion Command
Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:17:00 -
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Supreme Legion Commander of the Black Legion Fleet
We're recruiting.
Hitmeup ingame. |
Moctobot
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:27:00 -
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i dont really care one way or the other but a simple way to implement this would be that only the character with the most SP on any given account can vote
but that would also require ccp to make votes private in some capacity - that is to not require a post for affirmative or negative
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JafoPBCFR
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:34:00 -
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verry good idea. Yes alts should be allowed to post in other forums. But this one should be main only. one person one vote.
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Kalinda Veldrin
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:38:00 -
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I agree that there should only be one support vote per account.
What you are asking for here is a way to link your accounts together. This is a great idea and maybe CCP would consider the possibility of working multiple accounts directly into their business plan and pricing, giving a discount on the second and any subsequent accounts.
You would then select the "Primary" account and a "Main" character (from that account) and that would be your forum posting character which would reflect the support of your accounts as you have outlined. Posting with any other character from your accounts could see them with an "Alt" tag just like your proposed representation tag and could be easily restricted from posting on CAOD and the like.
If for any reason (and I'm sure there could be many), you decide to change your main character, that could be worked into the "Paid changes" that are already offered, with a small charge attached, like the current ability to change your portrait. |
ceyriot
Induseng Enterprises
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:50:00 -
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Could be hard to set up, but would be nice. |
Fallorn
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.12 23:09:00 -
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You could just put the poll option into the forums you don't have to post one vote per account and it puts it at the top of the screen so you can see how much support it has. These forums need a revamp. |
Illaria
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Posted - 2008.06.13 00:11:00 -
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I agree
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.13 00:15:00 -
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I agree and so do all my alts
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Meleyn
Alternate Posting Services
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Posted - 2008.06.13 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Meleyn on 13/06/2008 00:20:21
 Originally by: Illaria
I agree
... and so does my alt 
Edit: Rofl, it really works: you can vote with another char from the same account, even when you have already voted with your main in the same thread. That's a quite sloppy implementation of the vote feature, tbh.
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Sigourney Reaver
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Posted - 2008.06.13 00:17:00 -
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Sorry as an alt I can't agree with this I want my moments in the spotlight.
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Khaerie
The Empire Nation
Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2008.06.13 01:26:00 -
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Voting will be a difficult issue to resolve. On the one hand you could attempt to do one account/one vote. It favors those who can afford more then one account.
On the other hand you could do one ip address one vote. It forces those that use the same computer to have only one vote between them.
I am unable to offer a solution at this time but I am also unable to support a voting system that clearly favors those that are more fortunate. It simply isn't democratic. 
Looking for new sig |
Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.06.13 04:06:00 -
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*is blown away by the sheer volume of Goons agreeing in this thread* |
Gabriel Darkefyre
Crystal Ship
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: Gabriel Darkefyre on 13/06/2008 12:06:25
Originally by: Khaerie
Voting will be a difficult issue to resolve. On the one hand you could attempt to do one account/one vote. It favors those who can afford more then one account.
On the other hand you could do one ip address one vote. It forces those that use the same computer to have only one vote between them.
I am unable to offer a solution at this time but I am also unable to support a voting system that clearly favors those that are more fortunate. It simply isn't democratic.
There are several problems with doing one vote per IP.
1. Not every case of multiple accounts per PC is due to one person having Multiple Accounts. Sometimes it's due to multiple family members having accounts.
2. I could have logged in yesterday from home, voted. Logged in today from work, voted again. Logged in from an Internet Cafe later in the week, voted yet again. Each time from a different IP Address. Simply put, accounts will not necessarily be functioning from the same IP address all the time especially when you consider that these votes are going on a Web Based Forum.
Believe me, I do sympathise with the concept that it should be one vote per user, however with the sheer number of Alt accounts out there and no way of tracking whether a given account is an Alt account at the moment does make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to properly regulate that. One vote per Account, however, is workable and would make a decent compromise. Yes it does mean that those with multiple accounts have a louder voice however we may be looking at this slightly wrong. The CSM, at the moment, is being described as a purely democratic body. This isn't the case.
It's actually more like a board of directors in a company. Each account is effectively a 'share' so those with more accounts have more 'shares' and so have a greater say in what direction a company (In this case, the CSM) goes in.
Edit:Oh, and just to make it clear what position I'm coming from, I'm a single account holder with no alts at all. So this proposal wouldn't help me much but would be of great help to others.
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ErrhuhBlaman
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Posted - 2008.06.27 20:32:00 -
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i support this whole heartedly. it would make it more clear how the player base as individuals view and support the ideas given.
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Zaran Darkstar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.27 23:49:00 -
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1 account 1 vote?
I agree.  |
Darth Vaders
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.27 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zaran Darkstar
1 account 1 vote?
I agree.
1 vote per account seems fair. |
William Pierce
Universal Army
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Posted - 2008.06.27 23:56:00 -
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I agree!
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