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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 09:49:00 -
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SamtheDog wrote:Doesn't really matter what you are doing with your isk short term. If you think 5M units of zydrine is some sort of stockpile, you missed the boat a LONG time ago.
I've managed to amass nearly 340M units of zydrine during the past 1.5 years at an average price of around 900 isk. Just buying and buying more. Always with more isk on my hand than I need, but I've seen eve change so many times that any type of game change always ends up with some dramatic change.
Zydrine has been far too low for too long. Everyone has known this. So you put a crapload of money into one commodity and be PATIENT. I want my 2 trillion isk. And it looks like nearly 1.5 years fo waiting are going to net me nearly 1.65 tn in profit.
But that is 1.5 years of methodical and patient work by observation and noticing patterns of gameplay.
Some people have realized that changes are coming and put a fortune into a conversion in the future. But unless you're willing to put in the time and isk to really profit from it, most people are helpless.
Sam
You nailed it good Sir.
EVE is a waiting game. Not in the months but in the years.
From 2005 to 2007 I was buying Gurristas Brass tags for 5000 ISK. Then they went to 10 mill each.
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
1
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:13:00 -
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SamtheDog wrote:Doesn't really matter what you are doing with your isk short term. If you think 5M units of zydrine is some sort of stockpile, you missed the boat a LONG time ago.
I've managed to amass nearly 340M units of zydrine during the past 1.5 years at an average price of around 900 isk. Just buying and buying more. Always with more isk on my hand than I need, but I've seen eve change so many times that any type of game change always ends up with some dramatic change.
Zydrine has been far too low for too long. Everyone has known this. So you put a crapload of money into one commodity and be PATIENT. I want my 2 trillion isk. And it looks like nearly 1.5 years fo waiting are going to net me nearly 1.65 tn in profit.
But that is 1.5 years of methodical and patient work by observation and noticing patterns of gameplay.
Some people have realized that changes are coming and put a fortune into a conversion in the future. But unless you're willing to put in the time and isk to really profit from it, most people are helpless.
Sam
I'd imagine selling off a stupendous stockpile like that takes even MORE patience just to sell it off without crashing the wave you're trying to ride when the prices rise again.
Ah... zyd... I remember the days when that mineral went for 2400. It's definitely the craziest of the minerals. |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
90
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:19:00 -
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Day 2:
Oprox 620M profits, and counting. |
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
190
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:35:00 -
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SamtheDog wrote:Doesn't really matter what you are doing with your isk short term. If you think 5M units of zydrine is some sort of stockpile, you missed the boat a LONG time ago
I've managed to amass nearly 340M units of zydrine during the past 1.5 years at an average price of around 900 isk. Just buying and buying more. Always with more isk on my hand than I need, but I've seen eve change so many times that any type of game change always ends up with some dramatic change
Zydrine has been far too low for too long. Everyone has known this. So you put a crapload of money into one commodity and be PATIENT. I want my 2 trillion isk. And it looks like nearly 1.5 years fo waiting are going to net me nearly 1.65 tn in profit
But that is 1.5 years of methodical and patient work by observation and noticing patterns of gameplay
Some people have realized that changes are coming and put a fortune into a conversion in the future. But unless you're willing to put in the time and isk to really profit from it, most people are helpless.
It is pretty sweet to see a long term plan of this scale come near to fruition. But I doubt you're going to see an ROI that would impress a good trader with a smaller stash (especially, if my guess about zydrine's future price turns out correct). Big traders have to have longer investment horizons than small traders and accept lower ROI. And there are a lot of high ROI opportunities for small traders that are pocket change for big ones. |
Caldari Citizen20110707
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:05:00 -
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SamtheDog wrote:Doesn't really matter what you are doing with your isk short term. If you think 5M units of zydrine is some sort of stockpile, you missed the boat a LONG time ago.
I've managed to amass nearly 340M units of zydrine during the past 1.5 years at an average price of around 900 isk. Just buying and buying more. Always with more isk on my hand than I need, but I've seen eve change so many times that any type of game change always ends up with some dramatic change.
Zydrine has been far too low for too long. Everyone has known this. So you put a crapload of money into one commodity and be PATIENT. I want my 2 trillion isk. And it looks like nearly 1.5 years fo waiting are going to net me nearly 1.65 tn in profit.
But that is 1.5 years of methodical and patient work by observation and noticing patterns of gameplay.
Some people have realized that changes are coming and put a fortune into a conversion in the future. But unless you're willing to put in the time and isk to really profit from it, most people are helpless.
Sam
hehe same story here. i wil be making soo much isk. my estimation is between 300 -700b isk. only need one big score adter that and im setteld. im on 5 month waiting so far. not bad investment for 10 month wait |
Molic Blackbird
Orion Faction Industries
Orion Consortium
33
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Posted - 2012.03.16 14:04:00 -
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SamtheDog wrote:
I've managed to amass nearly 340M units of zydrine during the past 1.5 years at an average price of around 900 isk. Just buying and buying more. Always with more isk on my hand than I need, but I've seen eve change so many times that any type of game change always ends up with some dramatic change.
Zydrine has been far too low for too long. Everyone has known this. So you put a crapload of money into one commodity and be PATIENT. I want my 2 trillion isk. And it looks like nearly 1.5 years fo waiting are going to net me nearly 1.65 tn in profit.
2 trillion ISK divided by 340m units of Zydrine would make for a price of 5,880 per unit. Do you really expect the price of Zydrine to reach that level? |
SamtheDog
Singularity.
4
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Posted - 2012.03.17 00:09:00 -
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I saw nocxium go from 90 to nearly 550 in a few months.
That was due to the mechanics of the game being changed.
Will zydrine go that high? Well, with so much isk floating around, I'd say it's very possible to get near 5000 considering eve's past history.
We saw robotics go from 8k to nearly 75k from mechanics changes. A nearly 10 fold increase.
You can't put a cap on prices or a bottom floor. But you can't realistically bank on this now, even the buy price is now 1050, and this is from people who think a 10-20% return is actually good profit.
You need BIG isk to turn BIG profits. After this change happens, and it will take a few weeks to occur. Look at the game again and put say 1 tn isk into another commodity and wait. Turn that trillion into 5 or 10 trillion.
Plex your accounts,and just enjoy pew pew because you can afford to fly or play whatever you want. Though my game play slowed after I got Amarr Titan 5, bought one...flew it around and got bored..then sold it.
Now I just grind out around 500M/hr every morning while I get ready for the office.
Sammy |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.19 11:53:00 -
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Who cares about Zydrine with the new T3 Frigates comming in the Next expansion WH produce is gonna go craziiiiiiE!! |
Savage Creampuff
Ion Corp.
Citex Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.03.19 12:22:00 -
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confirmed. t3 frigs are coming in the next expansion. |
Daedra Trade
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.21 12:01:00 -
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JD Rocketfeller wrote:"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"
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OfBalance
Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.03.21 19:30:00 -
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Brock Nelson wrote:What the thread says, the pastebin posted by Core was fabricated 
STOP CONTROLLING MY GAME! |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
943
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:42:00 -
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im so behind....
what pastebin?
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Johnny Frecko
Fruidian Logic
18
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:48:00 -
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Wow, You're magical.
You revived something dead. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
943
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:57:00 -
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huh.. i guess i did
i was just reading another zyd thread and this one was linked.
cool guys dont look directly at explosions and timestamps
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
122
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Posted - 2012.04.30 15:03:00 -
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Brock Nelson wrote:What the thread says, the pastebin posted by Core was fabricated
This was predicted for hulkageddon.
I suggest pull out for a month, back off the buy orders, get in your ganky and have some fun in low/null |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
218
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Posted - 2012.04.30 15:11:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:Brock Nelson wrote:What the thread says, the pastebin posted by Core was fabricated This was predicted for hulkageddon. I suggest pull out for a month, back off the buy orders, get in your ganky and have some fun in low/null
Ugh. High end prices have little or nothing to do with hulkageddon. In fact, hulkageddon could drive Nocx to increase as the already inadaquate supply of highsec nocx from pyrox is strangled.
What happened this weekend was twofold. First, a massive drop in volume, and note that this manifested itself through the entire basket. Order volume itself was down, overall quantity sold was down. The second was panicky profit taking, you can see this especially on nocx and zyd on the 29th where the volumes are almost normal. People with sell orders already up on the market kept undercutting each other and some of them (or others) simply dumped and ran.
Now that Burn Jita is over officially (reimbursements are no longer being paid out for gank ships, so while some lone goons may continue to burn things it won't be anywhere near the scale of carnage), things will pick back up again. "Picking back up" is the low end here, some producers may try to make up lost volume and overbuy, giving us a volume spike over the next week to compensate for the lost weekend volume. |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
122
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:30:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Kara Books wrote:Brock Nelson wrote:What the thread says, the pastebin posted by Core was fabricated This was predicted for hulkageddon. I suggest pull out for a month, back off the buy orders, get in your ganky and have some fun in low/null Ugh. High end prices have little or nothing to do with hulkageddon. In fact, hulkageddon could drive Nocx to increase as the already inadaquate supply of highsec nocx from pyrox is strangled. What happened this weekend was twofold. First, a massive drop in volume, and note that this manifested itself through the entire basket. Order volume itself was down, overall quantity sold was down. The second was panicky profit taking, you can see this especially on nocx and zyd on the 29th where the volumes are almost normal. People with sell orders already up on the market kept undercutting each other and some of them (or others) simply dumped and ran. Now that Burn Jita is over officially (reimbursements are no longer being paid out for gank ships, so while some lone goons may continue to burn things it won't be anywhere near the scale of carnage), things will pick back up again. "Picking back up" is the low end here, some producers may try to make up lost volume and overbuy, giving us a volume spike over the next week to compensate for the lost weekend volume.
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I dont care, iv unloaded as soon as it started to move from 2000 to 1900
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Just implement repercussions for any blueshooters in your space for the duration of hulkageddon, I.E. the Ganker has to cover the cost of replacing some ones hulk.
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dude, all the numbers in the world wont change the minds of any seasoned investors, we all know its gonna dip for a while, its probably best to pull out now if you cant wait 3.5-6 months for prices to stabilize on all fronts, its bin talked about for months now over and over, no reason to beat that dead horse to death yet again. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
220
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:36:00 -
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Well if I keep beating the dead horse maybe I can drive people to drive it back up faster so those of us with larger stockpiles can unload. ;) |
Casius Omega
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.05.01 12:29:00 -
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please unload ur stockpiles so i can buy more zydrine cheaper.
thanks |
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