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Drutt Warsong
The Draconis Combine
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: FomkA To all those noobs, who claims victory to their blob, just imagine what happened if all of our carriers jumped and startin remote rep each other? All your blob didnot had enough dps to kill chimera in triage, he popped when triage deactivated, because the chimera pilot wasnot able to fuel his stront in to cargo hold. Once again we did mistake, beleivin that our cap fleet will not be lagged to **** :)
Cya on battlefield.
ok first of all.
to complain about our blob when you came from 0.0 to high sec to attack us is a little bit hypocritical if you ask me.
second, we had intell of a 100+ gallentee fleet supported by 10 cap ships inc. so we sent out a call to arms and got all the people we could to defend and we where ready to fight that fleet with 1 carrier and a 160 man fleet half of which was t1 frigs and cruisers. our blob was formed because of the intell that you where coming and we where going to fight, not run even if we lost. so just what exactly did you the great RA expect us to do ?
next
please explain to me just what the great RED ALLIANCE is doing sending 20 caps to attack a group of players who are mostly all new to pvp and minding their own bussiness having fun doing the faction wars? in the area assigned for the faction wars.
seems to me that your nothing but a bunch of arrogant bullies who thought you could ruin the fun of others and get some easy kills off a bunch of noobs to pad your kill boards.
instead you showed yourselfs to be totaly incompetent and got your asses handed to you by these noobs.
I guess the great and feared RED ALLIANCE isnt so great after all if they can only fight noobs in t1 ships with capital ships and still lose badly.
5 carriers could only kill 1 bs and 2 t1 cruisers one of which was killed by the sentry guns ?
seems to me that your not so great after all.
cya on the battlefield
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Jack Gilligan
Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:08:00 -
[122]
I suspect some noobs are going to be taught a very valuable lesson :)
This is one reason why I really think the way that faction warfare was done is a very bad design, alliances are excluded, yet there WILL be conflicts.
It'd be funny if RA goes on an all out rampage against the caldari militia, doing what the gallente apparently can't do ;)
My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my corporation or alliance. |
Kecheor
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Drutt Warsong words
In case you didn't notice, he wasn't complaining he just said you got lucky that rest of their carriers weren't able to jump in due to heavy lag.
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King Hopy
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: iudex
The FC did a great job, he gathered all that disorganized small gangs and within 2 days we destroyed like 7-8 major gallente/neutral fleets. It was an honor to fly with him, and everyone else in fleet saw this the same way. Whenever he starts a fleet people like to join, i'll probably bring my own capitals in future if really necessary, because i know this guy is doing a good job.
You was kicked because you was rude and insultive in a way that was absolutely inappropriate, you should learn some manners and not smacktalk if the FC is wrong on that carrier issue, which had absolute nothing to do with the current op. You shouldn't start to behave like an ass just because there's something you know better than him.
There are not many people with good leadership skills, the FC we are talking about is one of them, and he defenitely does not deserve comments like your post.
I wasn't being disrespective. I only pointed an error on his thinking (which he was also basing the strenght of the fleet on). The one being disrespective was the FC who started calling me a noob and kicked me from the fleet just because I said he was wrong with something.
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Lumen Atra
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Drutt Warsong this was big in several ways.
first of all the attitude exhibited by some of the 0.0 players that the militas would be nothing but easy targets for them to come and attack and feed off of has been proven false. The militas even if they are mainly newer players to pvp have a core of experianced pvpers in them that lend their expertise and advice and the caldari one has some good fc's also. this fight showed that even a gang of new pvpers that listen and are well led can hold their own.
the voice coms during that engagement were for the most part very calm and professional even after the fight but the fleet chat however went nuts when we downed the last carrier. It was the first carrier kill for the majority of the people in the fleet and the excitment was a pleasure to see and be a part of.
it was big because eve gained a lot of new pvp players that once where mission runners but now are hooked on pvp. they will continue to grow and learn and most will prolly end up in a 0.0 alliance.
I spent the last year fighting in the big war with the GBC and had a blast and learned a lot but yesterday my first day in the faction wars was as fun as any day i have had in eve pvp. the expansion is huge for eve. it brings fast fun pvp to players that normaly wouldnt get to experiance it and they are loving it. The militas are a large scale pvp school that will benifit all of eve in the long run including the 0.0 alliances.
I think this expansion is the best one ccp has ever delivered.
cheers
Are all pubbies this stupid? FW has been released for a couple of days, and you think one engagement loss by an alliance is proof of anything? Especially when there was lag involved?
Newsflash: **** like that happens - RA knows it, we know it, all of 0.0 know it - and further, we are smart enough to realize that a single loss (especially of such small proportions) is indicative of nothing.
Congrats that you had fun - but at least have the ******* to admit that it wasn't pubbie skill.
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Gungankllr
Isonami Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:16:00 -
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There really shouldn't be any chest beating on the part of the Caldari Protectorate people here. (FW)
Yes, we killed three carriers, and they were from an alliance whose PVP ability I have come to respect.
I must say however that the likelyhood of repeating such a feat isn't very high.
In fact, against a well-trained, well disciplined fleet the outcome will be quite different.
But yes, it is pretty cool that a mob of people, most of whom had never flown together, half not on voice comms, with a gaggle of Tech I cruisers and Battlecruisers managed to down three carriers.
I highly doubt RA will make the same mistakes twice.
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Drutt Warsong
The Draconis Combine
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:28:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Jack Gilligan I suspect some noobs are going to be taught a very valuable lesson :)
This is one reason why I really think the way that faction warfare was done is a very bad design, alliances are excluded, yet there WILL be conflicts.
It'd be funny if RA goes on an all out rampage against the caldari militia, doing what the gallente apparently can't do ;)
joining the milita is just like joining an alliance and has the same mechanics basicaly. you cant join two alliances at the same time now so why should you be able to stay in your alliance and join the milita too ? also if an alliance wants to join another aliance they have to disband one and all the corps join the other. the militas work the exact same way as the alliances do in this game now.
so whats the problem?
anybody is welcome to join the militas you just have to leave the alliance your in to join them. just as you would have to leave your alliance to join a different one. its the exact same game mechanics that everyone has been playing with for years.
milita = npc run alliance. |
Corewin
Black Reign The Five
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:29:00 -
[128]
I am loving these "NOOBS WILL SOON FEEL THE MIGHTY WRATH" posts.
A militia fleet, out to participate in faction warfare combat and not for the soul purpose of being a gank blob, encounters a hostile Red Alliance capital formation, and proceeds to hand out some pwnage. A win is still a win, an epic fail is still an epic fail.
You can preach, you can *****, and you can moan, but at the end of the day, no matter what you say that could have been done differently that would have easily saved those carriers wont change the fact they died, and to a T1 fleet consisting of mostly cruisers no less.
Hats off to the militia and its FC. People may say they are noobs, but seeing the outcome of this fight, should have you re-evaluating who the real noobs are in this situation.
Lets see a repeat and I'll be even more convinced. |
Wesley Baird
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Gilligan I suspect some noobs are going to be taught a very valuable lesson :)
What are they going to do? Shoot their POS's? Hot drop their caps? Seriously, there is nothing RA nor anyone can do against such a loosely organized group.
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Jack Gilligan
Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:54:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Jack Gilligan I suspect some noobs are going to be taught a very valuable lesson :)
What are they going to do? Shoot their POS's? Hot drop their caps? Seriously, there is nothing RA nor anyone can do against such a loosely organized group.
Camp the chokepoints? Hot drop caps? Make their lives generally miserable? Are you naive enough to think that a bunch of noobs can attack a superpower and get away with it?
Now you are going to see the downside of the crappy design of faction warfare. Because it is a "loosely organized group" means that it lacks structure or real leadership.
In a real alliance, someone can be kicked out for, oh, STARTING A WAR that they can't win. Not so in the faction militias. In other words, there is no way for there to be diplomacy, or effective control of what the militia does or does not do.
Meaning that "Joe Noob" who just signed up for the caldari militia, who has no idea what just happened just painted a target on his head, since RA will have no choice but to retaliate against every militia member they encounter. Sucks, but that's life.
I suspect that this sort of thing is going to be the new war exploit. People without the sack to actually fight the superpowers will instead use the militias, which can't be wardeced or attacked in highsec.
Again, this highlights the very short sighted and ill thought out design of faction warfare. They need to get rid of NPC corp participation at the minimum and at least force people to create a player corp to be part of the militia so that normal consequences can occur.
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Dracorimus
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dracorimus on 13/06/2008 14:02:09 Bring on the RA I say, I dont care :D, or BOB whoever, quite funny seeing the goons and the propoganda machine in action LULZ
Sup 0.0 guys, not getting the attention anymore? - Die faster damnit! |
Yorda
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:03:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Jack Gilligan I suspect some noobs are going to be taught a very valuable lesson :)
What are they going to do? Shoot their POS's? Hot drop their caps? Seriously, there is nothing RA nor anyone can do against such a loosely organized group.
More like make an alt corp, join the gallente militia and steam roll caldari.
It probably be pretty boring though.
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PiiG
Methuselah's Children
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:15:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Jack Gilligan I suspect some noobs are going to be taught a very valuable lesson :)
This is one reason why I really think the way that faction warfare was done is a very bad design, alliances are excluded, yet there WILL be conflicts.
It'd be funny if RA goes on an all out rampage against the caldari militia, doing what the gallente apparently can't do ;)
The sheer amount of Bootlickers alone should suffice.
Eat PiiG. |
Dazhbog
Psuedointellectuals
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Yorda
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Jack Gilligan I suspect some noobs are going to be taught a very valuable lesson :)
What are they going to do? Shoot their POS's? Hot drop their caps? Seriously, there is nothing RA nor anyone can do against such a loosely organized group.
More like make an alt corp, join the gallente militia and steam roll caldari.
It probably be pretty boring though.
look at all dem fukken goons |
Wilko1776
An Eye For An Eye
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:31:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Lumen Atra
Are all pubbies this stupid? FW has been released for a couple of days, and you think one engagement loss by an alliance is proof of anything? Especially when there was lag involved?
Newsflash: **** like that happens - RA knows it, we know it, all of 0.0 know it - and further, we are smart enough to realize that a single loss (especially of such small proportions) is indicative of nothing.
Congrats that you had fun - but at least have the ******* to admit that it wasn't pubbie skill.
goon emorage ftw |
Captain Sedai
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:40:00 -
[136]
Yea goons suck |
Captain Sedai
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:41:00 -
[137]
whats with all these goons defending RA |
Captain Sedai
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:42:00 -
[138]
yea, RA should learn english and defend themselves |
Dazhbog
Psuedointellectuals
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:44:00 -
[139]
It's you. You're the terrible goon (and Yorda). |
Wilko1776
An Eye For An Eye
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Posted - 2008.06.13 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Sedai Yea goons suck
kudos for impressive use of sarcasm!!!111!....but lets be fair, there are very few amongst you who don't utterly fail at life
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Yorda
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Sedai yea, RA should learn english and defend themselves
**** that, their Russian English is way better than real English.
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Seijitsu Nakama
The IMorral MAjority Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.06.13 15:31:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Captain Sedai yea, RA should learn english and defend themselves
:colbert:
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.13 15:44:00 -
[143]
Yorda, stop posting.
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queen1121
Empire Dreams
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:03:00 -
[144]
militias = ccp counter to goons ?
c/d?
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:08:00 -
[145]
Ok this thread is now my auction block for Moon Kitten's frozen corpse.
Starting bid at 10mil, buyout at 100mil.
Condition: used |
Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:15:00 -
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You know what's the funniest thing? A CONCORD billboard got in on two of the kills. That's what I'm gonna fly when I camp those n00b dyspro POSs for carrier kills. |
FlameGlow
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: FlameGlow on 13/06/2008 16:30:39
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Camp the chokepoints? Hot drop caps? Make their lives generally miserable? Are you naive enough to think that a bunch of noobs can attack a superpower and get away with it?
Camping the choke points? How do you plan to do that -this is lowsec, no bubbles; putting 10 inties on each gate 23/7? Drop caps on what? not like militia has anything valuble in there to hold on to - it'll just move to next sector. Making lives of ppl who came there to fight miserable by fighting them? Check your logic circuits. There is no gain in fighting this "bunch of noobs" other then for fun. The simple solution for that mining POS is reanchoring it by member of militia, maybe create a separate corp in militia containing caretaker of that POS and whoever wants to go on FW vacation from 0.0. You maybe don't know but corps within militia can be wardecced and attacked in highsec. If attacking someone from NPC corp is an exploit then why "People without the sack to actually fight the superpowers" didn't attack before in this way? Nothing has changed in it, you can stop whining about ppl being now unfairly protected by game mechanics.
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carleyjones
Blood and Silver
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:41:00 -
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2 quick questions - if it was a suicide carrier op then why did the last carrier cyno out to safety or the rest of the carriers not look to engage the blob later on? and why are there so many goons & pets crying in this thread?dont get me wrong i like goonie tears (and theres always alot of them) but why spend 5 pages crying about something that had nothing to do with them?
also, congrats to the militia. for many of u it was ur first taste of pvp. not bad for a first atempt
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carleyjones
Blood and Silver
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: FlameGlow Edited by: FlameGlow on 13/06/2008 16:30:39
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Camp the chokepoints? Hot drop caps? Make their lives generally miserable? Are you naive enough to think that a bunch of noobs can attack a superpower and get away with it?
Camping the choke points? How do you plan to do that -this is lowsec, no bubbles; putting 10 inties on each gate 23/7? Drop caps on what? not like militia has anything valuble in there to hold on to - it'll just move to next sector. Making lives of ppl who came there to fight miserable by fighting them? Check your logic circuits. There is no gain in fighting this "bunch of noobs" other then for fun. The simple solution for that mining POS is reanchoring it by member of militia, maybe create a separate corp in militia containing caretaker of that POS and whoever wants to go on FW vacation from 0.0. You maybe don't know but corps within militia can be wardecced and attacked in highsec. If attacking someone from NPC corp is an exploit then why "People without the sack to actually fight the superpowers" didn't attack before in this way? Nothing has changed in it, you can stop whining about ppl being now unfairly protected by game mechanics.
i wouldnt bother proving him wrong flameglow. most of intrepid havent got the first clue as far as any sort of pvp goes
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Casino Alkasar
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Casino Alkasar on 13/06/2008 16:50:15
What are they going to do? Shoot their POS's? Hot drop their caps? Seriously, there is nothing RA nor anyone can do against such a loosely organized group.
<-- this But this may grow interesting, RA need to make a move to get up their loss of reputation? DonŠt they
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