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Tokka Konnair
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Posted - 2004.05.13 22:07:00 -
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well Kali is coming next ..... __________________________________________
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2004.05.13 22:44:00 -
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Gimme pics please, cart needs love as well !!!!!
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.05.14 00:58:00 -
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Does this mean two new races of ships will be released aswell? if so that'll be awesome.
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Aronis Contar
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Posted - 2004.05.14 01:29:00 -
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As far as I read out of that snippet posted, those are new Bloodlines, parts of existing races, so no new ships for them.
Still, might the seasoned players be able to pull a trick and rechoose their bloodline ? I wouldn't mind being an Achura...
Ciao, Aronis!
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Xailia
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Posted - 2004.05.14 02:05:00 -
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Edited by: Xailia on 14/05/2004 02:06:37 Reason: Really bad typo
I might want to morph into another bloodline. But I'm sure there are too many complications to do that. 
"The sky above the port was the color of a television, tuned to a dead channel." |

Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.05.14 04:07:00 -
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There will be no morphing into other bloodlines for the simple reason that each bloodline has its own inherited default attributes, changing bloodlines would mean changing attributes so it is doubtful the devs would go to the great lengths to allow us to change.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |

vecdran
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Posted - 2004.05.14 04:30:00 -
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Brilliant, a bloodline comes out that specialises in piloting...bah
Perhaps this jove junk will allow us to become different people or something 
The Civilized Civire |

Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.05.14 04:50:00 -
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Hold on one moment, big deal, a blood line that specializes in piloting. What does that mean for us veterans? NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING.
Remember, we all had the choice of choosing a bloodline at the beginning of the game and picking what attributes we wanted, all this bloodline does is have the attributes spread differently and instead of having Skills X, Y, and Z, they will have skills, A, B, and C for piloting. You need to remember that bloodlines dont get any special bonus to learning skills, they just have a different starting attributes (and if any of you dont know about the Caldari Civre line, I'd say they are the closest to a 'pilot class' there is, I dare go as far as saying if the new bloodlines have any more attributes towards perception and willpower that the bloodline will be horrible at training anything else!).
So all of you who think a new bloodline is going to change everything, just remember this:
Bloodlines only affect the default attributes and starting skills of the player, outside of the beginning of the game, it means nothing since everyone trains skills equally with their attributes and bloodlines do not gain skill training bonuses
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |

Synex
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Posted - 2004.05.14 06:35:00 -
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I don't know if any of you will remember but way way way back in beta bloodline did *actually* mean something as you got specific bonuses for being different bloodlines:
Amarr Bonus : -50% for using Amarr Stargates Ni-Kunni : +25% max ask/bid value on market Civire : +3% accuracy bonus for hybrid weapons Deteis : -2% production time for all modules Gallente : -10% drill time when mining asteroids with lasers Intaki : +20% chance of getting a new agent Sebiestor : -20% ship repair cost Brutor : +10% speed bonus for Projectile weapons
There was a whole set of benefits + handicaps, educational bonuses and the like... Really added some specialisation to the game which would have been nice to see... never did work out why they took them out :(
Synex eve:I Code Monkey
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Ducken
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Posted - 2004.05.14 06:38:00 -
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I found this on Flagland posted by Lord Ciar:
Quote: Eve-online will have the addition of two new races so now all the races "classes" of our real world are represented ingame. These two races will be Asian in origin.
Is this just a matter of Lord Ciar being compleatly ignorant or is this something CCP have said or even agree to? -----------------------------------
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Bon3s
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Posted - 2004.05.14 07:39:00 -
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New Bloodlines ? Maybe also new agents :)
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Lemy Danger
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Posted - 2004.05.14 11:32:00 -
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if that pics on fragland should amaze us ... hmmm i'm not sure ...
if CCP can only show us CONCEPT Art of Shiva yet .... hmmm lets think about how far Shiva is suspected to be away from release ????
didn't the devs have sworn several times that it will be released in May ???
they forgot to add the year 2005 after that .... at least it looks that way ... most pics are only concept arts yet :-(
We need INPUT INPUT INPUT INPUT INPUT INPUT
Greets Lemy
cy@ in Space
EVE unser, das du bist auf der Festplatte, geheiligt sei dein Local, Dein Patch komme soon(tm), dein Restart geschehe. Wie auf Chaos so auch auf Tranquility. Unsere tõgliche downtime geb uns heute. Und vergib uns unser Ally-mining, Wie auch wir vergeben den PK. Und f³hre uns nicht zu SWG, sondern erl÷se uns von den Bugs. Denn dein ist die Scorpion, und das ECM und Stasis Web in Ewigkeit. CTD |

Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.05.14 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lemy Danger if that pics on fragland should amaze us ... hmmm i'm not sure ...
if CCP can only show us CONCEPT Art of Shiva yet .... hmmm lets think about how far Shiva is suspected to be away from release ????
didn't the devs have sworn several times that it will be released in May ???
they forgot to add the year 2005 after that .... at least it looks that way ... most pics are only concept arts yet :-(
We need INPUT INPUT INPUT INPUT INPUT INPUT
Greets Lemy
Yup thats what i thought, if they were only showing concept art it amkes u think they aint even close to finishing it
Also, 2 new races? wot about joves and pirate races that have been promised for ages 
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John Stone
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Posted - 2004.05.14 11:56:00 -
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Please, Please CCP tell us, when Shiva will be released!!! And try to don't use SoonÖ, please!!! __________ InGame: BPANTHER || www.the-black-panthers.de
--= EVE Gathering in Austria =--
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Lord Byron
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Posted - 2004.05.14 12:06:00 -
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Introducing a new bloodline with special bonusses can have only one reason. EVE is ment to run for a few years and new Players will join periodically after promotional activities. To close the skill-gap between old and new players CCP is grabbing into their magic box and is presenting us, voilÓ , new races or bloodlines.
N.A.G.A Corp | NeoCom Site
Lord Byron - Burnt Head Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares |

GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2004.05.14 12:42:00 -
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New bloodlines? Interesting.
To ease our older players' acceptance of this they ought to make them "manufactured" bloodlines. With all the high-tech cloning and all that, you'd think there'd be a few of those around among the more transhuman spacers? You know, use a few Jove bits to reforge your genetic make-up.
I don't know, but that's a helluva idea in any case (I think so anyway).
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.05.14 13:02:00 -
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Jove parts are for old players only soo players coming in new or old players can switch to or create into the new race?????? --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.05.14 13:28:00 -
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new bloodlines? i like it. but, are they "new" or just revamped. the article says that one of the races "is caldari". so does that mean they won't have their own style of design for ships and structures? i'd really like to see an asian influenced space station or fleet of ships. would be nice at any rate...
hope this is cool. i'm thinking it will be...
flummox
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2004.05.14 13:30:00 -
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screenies of cAKe would be g00d Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.05.14 14:09:00 -
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Hate to say it kids, but the fact they're showing concept art means little or nothing in terms of progress on Shiva itself.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.14 19:21:00 -
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Is the release of new Asian-related Caldari characters an indicator they're going to hit the asian market?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

fuze
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Posted - 2004.05.14 20:08:00 -
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Or more diversity in restaurant modules for player owned stations. ;) ___________________________ Favorite bumpersticker of the month: My head hurts! |

Alcarinque
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Posted - 2004.05.14 21:28:00 -
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My guess is that it aint any more pics of shiva yet....And that it wont be relaesed in another 2 months...but i really hope im wrong here.
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Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2004.05.14 23:06:00 -
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They arent brining in that tempest with a interon shoved up its rear end in are they cause that thing looked ugly. Well thats just me. --------------------------------------
Fortis cadere, cedere non potest |

tigress
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Posted - 2004.05.14 23:28:00 -
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Hey, they already shown off shiva? That screen with the gallente iterons at a deplyable base? Anyone got linakge? --
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.15 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
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didn't the devs have sworn several times that it will be released in May ???
they forgot to add the year 2005 after that .... at least it looks that way ... most pics are only concept arts yet :-(
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Yup thats what i thought, if they were only showing concept art it amkes u think they aint even close to finishing it
Also, 2 new races? wot about joves and pirate races that have been promised for ages 
Erm let me add... what about anything that was promised for ages? There has been relatively no new input for a long time, plenty of balancing / nerfing and hot fixes but 6 months on from castor and we have yet to see many of the items we were promised within castor.
Player owned structures, cloaking to name but two of a big big list.
Every time there was a CSM we got repeated promises of a timeline for these developments and hello surprise surprise that never once materialised.
We get told Shive was pencilled in for May, why am i therefore unsurprised to see that its more likely gonna be sometime in q3 and going by CCP's track record of one year this will be later rather than sooner, just in time for a XMAS sales push no doubt.
I am somewhat alarmed to say the least that the most exciting bit of art that has "leaked" from E3 relates to two new bloodlines that aren't even very well developed. They are suddenly bringing in two new lines to an existing empirical race???? WTF??? Whats the story behind that, these guys been hiding in Caldari basements everywhere for last 12 months?
I know that sounds like a big moan but please understand it is more just a high sense of frustration that CCP's communication is inconsistent to say the least. We sometimes get told tons, sometimes nothing, individual promises are regularly broken and sometimes not just broken but repeatedly broken.
Please CCP i beg you to prove me wrong. I am desperate to be wrong. Perhaps we could get an up to date devblog detailing the following simple things.
1) Up to date timescale for CCP's anticipated Shiva release date, not some muppet reporter from E3 2) A list of the content the definitively expect to be releasing at the Shiva patch time 3) a list of the promised kit that they know won't make shiva but will be rolled out during shiva and if needs be vague timescales.
I just dont wanna find myself 7 months down the line in same position. waiting for next big patch, believing the CCP hype and having only really received a dribble of the stuff i was promised would go live with the last big patch.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |

Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.05.15 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Viqer Fell
1) Up to date timescale for CCP's anticipated Shiva release date, not some muppet reporter from E3 2) A list of the content the definitively expect to be releasing at the Shiva patch time 3) a list of the promised kit that they know won't make shiva but will be rolled out during shiva and if needs be vague timescales.
I just dont wanna find myself 7 months down the line in same position. waiting for next big patch, believing the CCP hype and having only really received a dribble of the stuff i was promised would go live with the last big patch.
You don't get it do you...
WHile your waiting for EVE beta to end/castor to be finished/shiva to be finished/pigs to fly...
Your paying sibscriptions!
Why would CCP even consider posting an up to date devblog saying they will only have about half the stuff ready that they promised and that the release will be postpomed atleast 3 months?
So you can cancel your subscription and come back when shiva is possible somewhat implemented??
Think about it! There is just no way its gonna happen!
Originally by: cashman It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Czar Marcus
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Posted - 2004.05.15 14:40:00 -
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WELL, You're not going to release Shiva like scheduled in May, at least show us some freaking screenshots!
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.05.15 15:52:00 -
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this is a load of poo. whats coming looks great, it does. but its like no dev blog word on it. and where can i find csm logs pls ? the sticky at the top doesnt seem to have them, at least not last time i checked.
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TONG
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Posted - 2004.05.15 18:24:00 -
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be patient... good things come to those that wait and prepare....
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