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Lrrp
Drahathinar Tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.17 22:22:00 -
[601]
Well lets suppose for a minute that the story of Hedge's Titan was to stay in BNC is true. Should not BNC be obligated to pay Hedge for the Titan? Or is that too moral for BoB types?
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.17 22:27:00 -
[602]
 Originally by: Lrrp
Well lets suppose for a minute that the story of Hedge's Titan was to stay in BNC is true. Should not BNC be obligated to pay Hedge for the Titan? Or is that too moral for BoB types?
Well there is a very very good reason that they don't do this you see but we wouldn't believe it if they told us so they don't
Makes perfect sense
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Ephemeron
Anti-BoB
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Posted - 2008.06.17 22:33:00 -
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I find it impressive that among all the confusion and shady business, BoB members have united firmly against Hegemon Rast. The wellfare of the alliance is more important than the rights of individual - that I can understand.
It's kinda the same thing as getting all the Germans agree to extermination of the Jews in WW2 - somehow they were able to justify it to themselves - all for the wellfare of the state in troubled times.
I'm just curious - do any BoBs secretly admit to themselves that their alliance has betrayed one of their own, or do they truely believe that Hegemon was a traitor and deserved what he got. I'm not expecting an answer tho.
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Dobbick
SpaceBalls Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.17 23:22:00 -
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So really to sum it up:
Hege comes to forums to try gather public support: Check
Hege tells his side or supposed side: Check
BNC use x excuse to justify keeping Titan: Check
BNC do not shed any significant light on reasons why there keeping the Titan: Check
Rest of the Bob fanboys ect try to spin Titan keeping as ebay ect ect without proof: check
BOB and Fanboys get trolled and flamed by public: Check
Result: Bob condone theft of said Titan and clarify there position as regards corp theft and theft from players as been a ok game mechanic when it suits them.
possible future outcome: BOB corps suffering massive corp thefts ect and been laughed at by public.
Result: Epic fail by Bob and BNC.
I think Bob just hit a new low here, welcome to the corp thief club. Whats next?
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Stevens
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.17 23:25:00 -
[605]
Originally by: Dazhbog
thanks for proving avons point tho
How did I prove his point. I proved my point bu saying hege tried to do everything right and tried to follow the supposed original agreement of staying in the corp. Then he got ignored so he talked to molle. More ignoring and here we are. Try to keep up.
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.06.17 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
What Avon is saying is true, any further "side(s)" of the story merely feeds "your" desire for trollbait and forum pron.
Hence why it isn't going to continue :)
Molle is caught red-handed lying about not being contacted by Hegemon. So anything Bob says about this will only make it worse. This BS story is just for damage control because there are a lot of Bob members who are worried by this corp theft and this already affects morale. If a 3 year member can get back stabbed like this it can happen to any Bob.
Don't worry. You'll be reminded about this for a long time. Titan corp thieving by Bob and CEO didn't do thing to prevent it.
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Bladen Kerst
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.17 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
The problem here is that Hege isn't giving you the full story, and if anyone in BNC told you the truth it would get spun as damage control.
The truth is irrelevent, you are all just going to believe what you want.
If you could be bothered however, it isn't hard to find stuff on the internet which may make you look at the issue in a different light.
Hegemon, I'm dissapointed. I really liked you.
Oh but the problem is that we heard some of your of the story already in fact and got some important peice of info. In post No. 215 the guy named Cosmo Raata he unintentionally testified that Jake Noble was respecting Hege's property rights until some moment in time and that the fact of Hegemon's owning titan was recognized:
Originally by: Cosmo Raata
Edited by: Cosmo Raata on 14/06/2008 16:48:18
Edited by: Cosmo Raata on 14/06/2008 16:41:37
During the time that Hegemon was inactive/thinking of quitting/not playing, I was in talks with Jake Noble often. Each week there was word of Hegemon selling his Titan to Jake for under 30 bil, then it was 25, then 20, then he was just going to give it to Jake. It went on and on. From this 3rd person perspective, I could percieve that Hegemon had no idea what he wanted. BNC only wanted the Titan in use, which was very far from happening with Hedgemon piloting it.
So the guy had no idea what to do with the Titan? reason to kick him out of the corp without compensating it?
BNC wanted the titan in use? BNC had the titan in use, it seems only that they wanted it anyway.
Everything else you have to say more is going to be only the attempt to validate confiscation without compensation (read theft).
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Project 1982
Burn The Witch
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Posted - 2008.06.18 00:15:00 -
[608]
i lent my helios to james damar of outbreak and he returned me a imicus :[ 
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Gabriel Roberts
Brecken Solutions
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Posted - 2008.06.18 01:00:00 -
[609]
So bnc is the only major corp in bob to not build their own titan?
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Project 1982
Burn The Witch
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Posted - 2008.06.18 01:47:00 -
[610]
Originally by: Gabriel Roberts
So bnc is the only major corp in bob to not build their own titan?
that was the bnc titan 
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Gabriel Roberts
Brecken Solutions
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Posted - 2008.06.18 01:54:00 -
[611]
I suppose that debatable depending on your perspective, just seemed a bit odd that the other big3 each have 3 or 4 each and bnc had to use some questionable tactics to acquire their first. Congrats are in order I suppose.
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ollobrains2
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Posted - 2008.06.18 01:58:00 -
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to the original poster. If u have that many t2 bpos and so forth. And isk coming in there are plenty of merc corps out there that u could hire to harass bob pets or even harass bob directly in high sec. U probably know their industrial elements u could go on a rampage against those that ripped u off
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Project Taz
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:07:00 -
[613]
look guys i may be fairly new to this game and may not have known hege very long but a few things dont sound very well put together in the entire bob defence on this. First of all if bob wants to continue to portray a Brotherhood between members of the Alliance (which puts a damper on the whole *ITS A CORP ISSUE that we hear so much about) then some sort of retaliation should come for the act of piracy. as said on one of the other posts i believe though if they dont care about keeping an honorable persona in eve then stop trying just let everyone know what kind of dirty backstabbing pompus jerks and b*****ds you are. And if it is a corp issue if the corp is in bob it not only reflects on the corps leadership and abilities but shows that then entire alliance is led by spineless jerks who just dont want to deal with it and would rather spend their time on damage control on these threads to keep people from revealing what kind of actual a**es they really are.
hege i really am sorry for your loss and i would rather like to see you in game just to hang and fly together if only for a little while pm me some time.
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General StarScream
Empyrean Gallente
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:16:00 -
[614]
(WARING BAD SPELLING)
Hegemon Rast.
The Gallentes will revange your Loss, buy the evil out develers. Whom eat souls, they look like cute kittens on youtube.
but they are infact a Amezing Maze.
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Vily
Eternity INC.
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.06.18 04:53:00 -
[615]
if anything this will be a permanent dampener on trust within the alliance. Any personally owned supercap won't be getting lent, and i highly doubt anyone who hasn't already lent it will be lending their t2 bpo's to the corp.
trust is a hard thing to earn.
BNC just threw theirs out the door.
don't use your titan? we will. its ours now. hows that saying go? nice titan, we'll take it?
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.18 08:02:00 -
[616]
Originally by: General StarScream
(WARING BAD SPELLING)
Hegemon Rast.
The Gallentes will revange your Loss, buy the evil out develers. Whom eat souls, they look like cute kittens on youtube.
but they are infact a Amezing Maze.
Sup old Delve buddy.
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.06.18 10:49:00 -
[617]
Originally by: Vily
if anything this will be a permanent dampener on trust within the alliance. Any personally owned supercap won't be getting lent, and i highly doubt anyone who hasn't already lent it will be lending their t2 bpo's to the corp.
trust is a hard thing to earn.
Funny thing is the gagging order of getting booted when Bobbits post here only makes it worse.
With all the spies and inter-alliance friendships covers ups don't work no more.
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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC.
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.06.18 10:52:00 -
[618]
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 18/06/2008 10:52:49
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Sup old Delve buddy.
The excuse being given by BNC within BOB is that Hege quit and said he was ebaying his isk, but gave the Titan to the corp because he couldn't ebay it. Of course, he isn't there to defend himself and no chatlogs have been provided to prove this, nor is there any record of BNC's management reporting this allegation to CCP.
Of course Jake not being able to get a Titan built before the BBQ and deciding to keep this one is just a coincidence.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.06.18 11:04:00 -
[619]
Originally by: Vily
if anything this will be a permanent dampener on trust within the alliance. Any personally owned supercap won't be getting lent, and i highly doubt anyone who hasn't already lent it will be lending their t2 bpo's to the corp.
trust is a hard thing to earn.
BNC just threw theirs out the door.
don't use your titan? we will. its ours now. hows that saying go? nice titan, we'll take it?
Meh, I doubt there will be any negative effects for BNC internally.
Typically members of a corp want to believe their CEO and the directors are the greatest people alive. So they will swallow most any excuse that is made up for doing things like theft.
Whenever people realy want to believe something, they do.
In such a case facts do not matter too much.
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Lrrp
Drahathinar Tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.18 11:23:00 -
[620]
Originally by: Victor Vision
Typically members of a corp want to believe that their CEO and the directors are the greatest people alive. So they will swallow most any excuse that is made up for doing "bad" things like theft.
Whenever people realy want to believe something, they do.
In such a case facts do not matter too much.
Bruce members believed in their former founder and executor....right up until he pulled his corp, assets and non corp FC's out of the alliance. If I recall Fried also imposed a ban posting in this forum prior to leaving.
In short when open discussion is banned, something needs be hidden.
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.06.18 11:30:00 -
[621]
Originally by: Victor Vision
Typically members of a corp want to believe that their CEO and the directors are the greatest people alive.
In my corp they really are 
Tbh the attempted justifications in this thread are just  they would've been much better just to say "so what, we never claimed to be the good guys, epic theft ITT" and left it at that. 
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Velociter
Eureka - Global Dynamics
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Posted - 2008.06.18 15:25:00 -
[622]
Edited by: Velociter on 18/06/2008 15:26:42
Originally by: Lrrp
Bruce members believed in their former founder and executor....right up until he pulled his corp, assets and non corp FC's out of the alliance. If I recall Fried also imposed a ban posting in this forum prior to leaving.
In short when open discussion is banned, something needs be hidden.
There had been a COAD posting ban in BRUCE for a very long time, on and off long
before we arrived in fountain.
Anyway, this so has nothing to do with BRUCE, so back on topic. Sucks that a ship like this gets "stolen". Unless we hear the full side from both sides, its never going to get resolved and COAD flames will just continue :)
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.06.18 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Jake not being able to get a Titan built before the BBQ and deciding to keep this one is just a coincidence - honest! Amongst the former BNC members I've talked to, the surprise here is that Coranor is letting it happen - not that Jake would do it.
Blame Jake!
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Rawr Cristina
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.06.18 19:04:00 -
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if true sorry for your loss, if it were any other alliance I'd laugh at you for being so stupid but tbh I thought BoB were better than that 
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Steve Dave
Eternity INC.
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.06.18 19:23:00 -
[625]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Jake not being able to get a Titan built before the BBQ and deciding to keep this one is just a coincidence - honest! Amongst the former BNC members I've talked to, the surprise here is that Coranor is letting it happen - not that Jake would do it.
Blame Jake!
nice meme - we'll take it???
get your own feckin catchphrases 
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General StarScream
Empyrean Gallente
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Posted - 2008.06.19 00:43:00 -
[626]
holy cow dung Hegemon Rast deleted his character.
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darkin here
Is Usually Right
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Posted - 2008.06.19 01:03:00 -
[627]
Originally by: General StarScream
holy cow dung Hegemon Rast deleted his character.
There is no wai he would do that, he would've ebayed it along with all of that other BNC stuff that didn't belong to him. He pretty much sounded like the devil.
If he did delete the char it is just wrong, I heard that char really belonged to BNC anywai
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Ariko Gunaris
Office of Ganking and Commerce
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Posted - 2008.06.19 01:03:00 -
[628]
Originally by: General StarScream
holy cow dung Hegemon Rast deleted his character.
Interesting. I guess the eBay stuff was true.
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Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.19 03:21:00 -
[629]
Confirmed, hege's gone folks...
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Ephemeron
Anti-BoB
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Posted - 2008.06.19 03:36:00 -
[630]
He had many serious offers to join an effort to fight the BoB evil. He could have made a real difference. He could have used this turn of events to ignite his passion for the game - for revenge.
But he didn't, because he couldn't survive the big gaping wound in his soul, left by the betrayal of people he trusted most.
Some may argue he was weak, but if you never really trust anyone, you don't know how much it can hurt to be betrayed. It wasn't just Coranor, the whole alliance turned their back on him. It was the ultimate betrayal in EVE.
BoB is the evil empire. BoB must be destroyed.
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