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Hardin	Posted - 2004.05.11 19:31:00 - [1] Information Bulletin Those of you who frequent the Intergalactic Summit section of GalNet will no doubt be aware of the recent foundation of the PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF MINMATAR (PRM) Others may not yet of heard of this organisation. It is of the UTMOST importance that Amarr everywhere take note of the foundation of this new alliance - it could eventually pose a threat to your very way of life... Before you dismiss this, please let me provide you with some information, which you will not discover from 'official' TPRM statements. The PRM has claimed control of a large area of low-sec space on the edges of the Minmatar Republic centred on the Hield/Hrober systems. There are rumours that this Minmatar coalition is making eyes at Great Wildlands and are considering annexing this area from the Curse Alliance. These are just unconfirmed rumours at this stage however! What is known as a fact is that PRM fleets have been attacking ships from corporations who have not acknowledged their control over their currently 'claimed' area. These engagements are ongoing. According to intelligence reports that we have received the following corps are either members of the TPRM or are connected to it. (Disclaimer: Please bear in mind that intelligence reports cannot be 100% accurate, so no doubt there will be those who nitpick, however the list is 'generally' correct. We are aware that a few of the corps listed may not be members of the PRM and also that we have probably missed a few members!) 1. The People's Front of Minmatar - Anti-Amarrian Terrorists 2. M.Corp 3. CA corp 4. Seti Corp 5. SMaK Enterprises - Anti-Amarrian Terrorists 6. Amarr Will Eat Itself - Anti-Amarrian Terrorists 7. The Paratwa Ra - Anti-Amarrian Terrorists 8. Freelance Unincorporated - Anti-Amarrian Terrorists 9. The Matari Backbone 10. Tribal Trust of Pator - Anti-Amarrian Terrorists 11. S.I.N. Corporation 12. Union of Eve 13. Neohazard Freelance Keeping Agency 14. Egbinger Mining Co 15. Iikhelahii Khulemah'lal 16. The Vanguard Affiliation - Anti-Amarrian Terrorists 17. Liberty Inc - Anti-Amarrian Terrorists 18. Debt Collection Company - Anti-Amarrian Terrorists 19. Mohawks As you can see this is a not insignificant gathering of Minmatar oriented clans - all of whom are, if not directly involved in anti-Amarrian activities, then supportive of them. PFM pilots have also been seen acting in concert and flying with other anti-Amarr corporations including: 1. Oracle 2. Northern Intelligence The purpose of this post is a WAKE UP call for Amarrians. The Curatores Veritatis Alliance (CVA) of Amarrian Corps comprising Dark Seraph, Imperial Dreams and PIE Inc. is already at war with many members of the PRM - and have indeed given them bloody noses on many occasions. We are not at war with the PRM as an organisation but reserve our right to launch combat operations into PRM space to punish those guilty of crimes against Amarr. The time has now come for Amarrians to join the CVA in their struggle against those who would interfere and meddle in Amarrian affairs. The PRM is a real and tangible enemy that can be found. It provides support and succour to the enemies of Amarr. PIE calls on the PRM to evict the terrorist corps in its midst or face the consequences. PIE also calls upon Amarrian loyalists to commit to the defence of our Empire, its traditions and its way of life. Act now before it's too late. Contact Hardin in game for more information...
Hardin	Posted - 2004.05.11 19:37:00 - [2] Edited by: Hardin on 11/05/2004 19:41:11 Transmission from Golan Trevize - CEO of PIE: *BLACK CLAD ADMIRAL APPEARS ON HOLO* Amarrians!! An evil grows in Minmatar space, our borders are constantly probed and legitimate traders are being harrassed by the apemen warriors. I call upon you all to show your zeal and devotion to Amarr to if nescesary make the ultimate sacrifice for our ancient Empire. *FANATICAL STARE* Many of you just want to live your lives in peace...so do I!! I want nothing more than to tend to my wine fields, and watch my slaves work towards their eventual enlightenment, but I cannot rest before these insurgents are crushed. *CLENCHES FISTS* Let me remind you PIE is not the agressors in these wars. No war has been declared by PIE apart from upon pirates. But these terrorists see us as a symbol of Amarr and thus want to destroy us, and our way of life. *PICKS UP COPY OF THE SCRIPTURES* Let me quote our holy scriptures before I end this transmission: When the ears hear only The mouth shouting And the eyes see only The fingers broken The world has turned And God has gone Left us with fond memories Of sweet life without pain. The Scriptures. Apocalypse Verses 8:18. Remember the greatest sin is INDIFFERENCE... *TRANSMISSION ENDS*
bonesy19uk	Posted - 2004.05.11 19:55:00 - [3] Awwww, I didn't know you fellas cared so much. A real sweet gesture though, thanks a lot.
Randuin MaraL	Posted - 2004.05.11 19:57:00 - [4] Edited by: Randuin MaraL on 11/05/2004 19:58:23 Randuin Maral makes a private note as it is not his to comment any internat amarr affairs: "There is a note on GalNet referring to the New Republic, calling it a threat to all amarr. To those interested in reading my notes I say: The People's Republic is not claiming a "larg space", it is just a handful of systems, mostly in a dead end constellation, and far from amarr space, that we are talking about. There is no intention to expand into deep space, we will be busy enough with securing the Tartatven constellation that has been neglected by CONCORD and Minmatar Republic securitywise - cleaning that space from marauding pilots who attack local minmatar civilians. Of course the PRM fleet has order to ask non-minmatar, in particular amarr pilots, to leave the systems that belong to the New Republic, as it shall be a safe place for all minmatar to live in, a true "people's republic of minmatar". Only those who insist on causing trouble will encounter more than friendly or diplomatic words." He also prepares a second note: "If our, the Paratwa Ra's, membership in this project of stability, security and economy, as 'named anti-amarr terrorists' compromises the safety of this newborn state, I will recommend to the Paratwa Ra, to leave the New Republic. Its safety and stability shall not be endangered by amarr loyalists that seek an excuse to attack the Tartatven constellation." ____________________________________________________ Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die. MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner
Mitchello	Posted - 2004.05.11 20:01:00 - [5] "There are rumours that this Minmatar coalition is making eyes at Great Wildlands and are considering annexing this area from the Curse Alliance. These are just unconfirmed rumours at this stage however!" - hardin when i was ordered to fight in the Great Wildlands against Curse ages before they had "claimed" it what with Community of Curse and Great Wildlands Pack etc... The only people I ever really fought against were Oracle and VOTF. Which are Minmatar corps correct? If these same corps are still think in that region (I wouldnÆt know) wouldn't it be minmatar against minmatar if they attacked there? confusing...
Randuin MaraL	Posted - 2004.05.11 20:04:00 - [6] Randuin flips through his notes .... "Hm, we did never declare war on PIE. But on Dark Seraph ... The reason is obvious, as they are in amarr space what The Paratwa Ra are in minmatar space." ____________________________________________________ Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die. MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner
Tsual	Posted - 2004.05.11 20:18:00 - [7] Edited by: Tsual on 11/05/2004 20:21:38 Common sense Sorry Hardin but you threatened me to do this. -------------------------------------- Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life. Ritual of the Qua'nadhar.
Hardin	Posted - 2004.05.11 22:11:00 - [8] LOL - you are desperate for people to look at that arent you ;)
Ciar Meara	Posted - 2004.05.11 22:55:00 - [9] Indeed these terrorist are are constant threat to the beautiful Amarr way of life, they hold of the inevitable truth that is found when embracing the Amarr way. Yet they shall fall, like so many before them when the light of truth shines in their eyes. Be it through our chaplains, or our tachyon beam lasers. They SHALL see the light! I call upon any true Amarr to look out for concentrations of these vile criminals, but be carefull, they care not who they attack, unlike us they kill indiscriminatly. PIE Inc A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
bl3ach	Posted - 2004.05.11 22:58:00 - [10] Edited by: bl3ach on 11/05/2004 23:45:33 Edited by: bl3ach on 11/05/2004 22:59:41 Originally by: Mitchello "There are rumours that this Minmatar coalition is making eyes at Great Wildlands and are considering annexing this area from the Curse Alliance. These are just unconfirmed rumours at this stage however!" - hardin when i was ordered to fight in the Great Wildlands against Curse ages before they had "claimed" it what with Community of Curse and Great Wildlands Pack etc... The only people I ever really fought against were Oracle and VOTF. Which are Minmatar corps correct? If these same corps are still think in that region (I wouldnÆt know) wouldn't it be minmatar against minmatar if they attacked there? confusing... Oracle, no longer being in the Curse Alliance <link> and with VTOF not being a Minmatar corporation, your point is invalid. As for the rumours you have heard, I fear they have been greatly over exagerated. The People's Republic of Minmatar has been looking for promising mining grounds and the possibility of approaching the Curse Alliance with some kind of deal was suggested, we have not the inclination for a hostile take over of that region. I would also like to take the oppertunity to correct Hardin on a few points... Firstly membership: CA Corp Union of EVE Egbinger Mining Co. The Vanguard Affiliation Liberty Inc. Mohawks Are NOT members of the PRM at time of posting. Originally by: Hardin What is known as a fact is that PRM fleets have been attacking ships from corporations who have not acknowledged their control over their currently 'claimed' area. These engagements are ongoing. Acknowledgment is not required. We have not made aggressive actions against any non-Amarrians, we have been forced however to defend our territory from pirates and aggressors who have initiated hostilities against PRM members. The constellation of Tartatven is not a restricted area for Minmatar pilots, and access for Caldari and Galente pilots is usually granted determined on a case by case basis. I do not care for the general tone of your statement Hardin or yours Golan for that matter. The People's Republic of Minmatar is not an Anti-Amarrian organisation, we are a pro-Minmatar organisation, who have grown tired with the incessant whinning, infighting and consessions of the old Republic. We are strong in spirit, we speak with one voice and our ideology is clear. All peace loving non-Amarrians are welcome in our space to trade, mine or hunt pirates, and to use the security we provide. However, and let me make myself perfectly clear, The People's Front of Minmatar is and anti-Amarrian organisation. We will continue our raids into Amarr space, not just to target CVA and those wretched Blacksheep ("sheep"... how appropriate) but the Amarrian populous at large and strike fear deep into the heart of your Empire and your Emperor himself. We will never give up our war of attrition, we will never compromise our ideals, we will lead the way at the fall of your Empire and the purging of it's corrupt and immoral history into the aether of forgoten time. The People's Republic is not a threat to CVA or your unworthy Empire. It is a place of refuge for those tired of Midular's antics, a place to start anew. We and our brothers in arms however, are a threat to you. And if you ever target non-consentual freedom loving members of our new Republic, or use it's name against us again I swear by the light of Matar that you will see no end, no respite, no fury unleashed like mine upon you, you will learn to fear me like the hand of your God himself with the torrid fury of Matar burning within my heart and it's cleanising light eradicating the immorality of your sins. All Amarr are accountable and all will be punished!
Gaius Kador	Posted - 2004.05.11 23:09:00 - [11] Originally by: bl3ach We and our brothers in arms however, are a threat to you. And if you ever target non-consentual freedom loving members of our new Republic, or use it's name against us again I swear by the light of Matar that you will see no end, no respite, no fury unleashed like mine upon you, you will learn to fear me like the hand of your God himself with the torrid fury of Matar burning within my heart and it's cleanising light eradicating the immorality of your sins. All Amarr are accountable and all will be punished! What you are basically saying here is that you will terrorise our people, yet should we dare think of doing something similar in return, you shall punish us for our insolence. Sums it up nicely, doesn't it? Do not tempt me, Bleach, for our fight is with you and not those going about their daily trade peacefully. ----------------------------------------------
Kord	Posted - 2004.05.11 23:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Gaius Kador Originally by: bl3ach We and our brothers in arms however, are a threat to you. And if you ever target non-consentual freedom loving members of our new Republic, or use it's name against us again I swear by the light of Matar that you will see no end, no respite, no fury unleashed like mine upon you, you will learn to fear me like the hand of your God himself with the torrid fury of Matar burning within my heart and it's cleanising light eradicating the immorality of your sins. All Amarr are accountable and all will be punished! What you are basically saying here is that you will terrorise our people, yet should we dare think of doing something similar in return, you shall punish us for our insolence. Sums it up nicely, doesn't it? Do not tempt me, Bleach, for our fight is with you and not those going about their daily trade peacefully. If you consider the subjugation of other races as "peaceful trade" then be sure to defend yourselves with more than idle rhetoric.
Pacal Balan	Posted - 2004.05.12 00:52:00 - [13] Originally by: Gaius Kador What you are basically saying here is that you will terrorise our people, yet should we dare think of doing something similar in return, you shall punish us for our insolence. Sums it up nicely, doesn't it? What total arrogance and hypocrisy of this darkened maggot... these are but the same maggots that have terrorised the matari peoples for centuries yet now fear terror and destruction being wrought upon their own race? These maggots do not understand the universe, for the universe focuses its energy along strange paths and with that said it is rapidly becoming known that the time of this darkness now ebbs into a state of oblivion. Within the Amarrian race exists the ôpure darknessö which even now as we speak brethren... slips ever further into that state of nothingness. There will come a day that the totality of their existence will equate to nothing but that of pure void, only then shall we have balance within this universes time shard. They will become nothing as their existance slips away... " Cizin's fire speaks to us...his chosen, Pero no pudieron matar nuestras raÝces, for we cannot die!ö
Kular	Posted - 2004.05.12 06:14:00 - [14] Originally by: Randuin MaraL Randuin flips through his notes .... "Hm, we did never declare war on PIE. But on Dark Seraph ... The reason is obvious, as they are in amarr space what The Paratwa Ra are in minmatar space." This is very curious to me and many others I assume, please tell me what IS Dark Seraph and what IS The Paratwa for that matter? I would really like to know! Home of Ubiqua Seraph Eve's only all Sarum loyal corporation.
Ethidium Bromide	Posted - 2004.05.12 06:50:00 - [15] Originally by: pacal balan Within the Amarrian race exists the ôpure darknessö which even now as we speak brethren... slips ever further into that state of nothingness. we believe in a thing called god! and the state of nothingness you referr to has got to be the PRM Back to business. Basicly i don't care about the PRM as long as it's boundaries make Amarr stay out and Minmatar terrorists stay in. As yesterdays battle showed the terrorists do not stay in their annexed territory. We could talk about peace with and recognition of the PRM, but only after you all have been demilitarized and handed all your battleships over to the officials of the CVA. Otherwise be prepared to be conquered and purged. Hear this: "The storm might be answered by a crusade! The warriors are gathering!"
VinkNut	Posted - 2004.05.12 09:21:00 - [16] I don't recall us (SMaK) being anti-amarrian terrorists...when did this happen? SMaK Enterprises - Pro Minmatar defenders sounds better :) We don't actively seek out Amarr to "terrorise", but will defend/assist our Minmatar brothers and sisters if they are under threat.
AsheRaven	Posted - 2004.05.12 10:01:00 - [17] Edited by: AsheRaven on 12/05/2004 10:03:09 Anythng anti slavery is therefore pro terroist in Hardin's eyes. To be frank, he's more afraid of the numbers game ---------------------------------
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.05.12 11:46:00 - [18] An alliance of Minmatar. A second Republic besides their already fragmented first Republic. You know, I've been around long enough to see what the Minmatar people are really like. There's some great individuals, who's wit and barbaric instincts (cAKe!) are refreshingly different. But underneath it all houses a fractured spirit, their very nature seems to be the cause that they rarely get along. Perhaps it's a matter of breeding, I don't know. Your race is as splintered as it was before our warfleets descended on your home planets. You suffer from infighting. You will never be as powerful, as singleminded as the Amarrian people. You lack the traditions, the cohesion and the willpower to form any kind of solid opposition towards the Amarr. You are dust. [Heterocephalus glaber]
AsheRaven	Posted - 2004.05.12 11:56:00 - [19] Edited by: AsheRaven on 12/05/2004 11:57:36 Done well enough recently Plenty of single minded CVA retreats from what I witnessed ---------------------------------
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.05.12 11:56:00 - [20] Edited by: Discorporation on 12/05/2004 12:42:59 There's another thing I just thought of. CONCORD is re-evaluating their warfare system. It's rumoutred that Concord certified Allainces will be created. If all the changes go as the documents we have received are put into action, then the entire base of the CVA will be at war with the entire PRoM (if the latter chooses to formalise their alliance). Something to consider. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Vicarrah	Posted - 2004.05.12 12:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Discorporation There's another thing I just thought of. COCORD is re-evaluating their warfare system. It's rumoutred that Concord certified Allainces will be created. If all the changes go as the documents we have received are put into action, then the entire base of the CVA will be at war with the entire PRoM (if the latter chooses to formalise their alliance). Something to consider. The Amarrian Slavers will certainly have quite a bit more on their plate as well Vicarrah Tahiri Protector
AsheRaven	Posted - 2004.05.12 12:26:00 - [22] The gloves will be off ---------------------------------
zoolkhan	Posted - 2004.05.12 14:50:00 - [23] Originally by: Discorporation You lack the traditions, the cohesion and the willpower to form any kind of solid opposition towards the Amarr. You are dust. How would you know MR. Disc "never met in fight" forumwarrior? CVA would not drum the PR drums for the PRM if he would not see us as a seerious opposition. [_] zoolkhan is right [_] hardin was wrong choose. v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.05.12 15:13:00 - [24] Originally by: zoolkhan How would you know MR. Disc "never met in fight" forumwarrior? History has shown that the Minmatar people are incapable of working together towards a goal. Tribes used to clash regularly in the past, and even at present, you can't seem to form a solid block of opposition against the Amarr. Whilst you could help your own Republic to stop the Amarr, after all Pilots are rare and every hand helps, you instead distance yourselves from the Concord sanctioned Minmatar Republic to form your own little troupe. You're a fragmented people. The Amarr all form one front. How do you ever plan on winning? Quote: CVA would not drum the PR drums for the PRM if he would not see us as a seerious opposition. You're the -only- opposition. It'd be rather dull if they -didn't- use propaganda [Heterocephalus glaber]
Ashka Neris	Posted - 2004.05.12 15:19:00 - [25] The Minmtar were tribal a serious of small nations. They didnt need to see eye to eye to prosper. Matar was still a paradise before you came along, so even if they did fight, they knew how to get things done too. So your "singlemindess" was not needed. The difference make the Minmitar a coulourful race, were as the Amarr are simply grey. --------------------------- Proud to be half Brutor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=69488&page=1R
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.05.12 15:41:00 - [26] Originally by: Ashka Neris The Minmtar were tribal Exactly. And as all tribes they war internally. I don't blame you for being scattered, it's a part of your society. Originally by: Ashka Neris a serious of small nations. They didnt need to see eye to eye to prosper. Matar was still a paradise before you came along, so even if they did fight, they knew how to get things done too. Of course. Originally by: Ashka Neris So your "singlemindess" was not needed. The difference make the Minmitar a coulourful race, were as the Amarr are simply grey. Exactly. You are a race of many creeds, colourful and diverse. We on the otherhand are a race of single-minded, bullheaded zealots. The same zealots also control the largest territory, have thousands of years of conquest to guide their decisions, and they are supressing a third of your race's people (your entire race before we had that unfortunate incident with the Jove. Not one of our best decisions). Somehow, I think we got the better end of the bargain. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Randuin MaraL	Posted - 2004.05.12 16:08:00 - [27] Originally by: Discorporation ... then the entire base of the CVA will be at war with the entire PRoM (if the latter chooses to formalise their alliance). Randuin makes another note for himself: "This seems to be the right order of events - CVA is formed and threatens PRM members already; PRM will have to formalize the defense." ____________________________________________________ Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die. MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner
Ashka Neris	Posted - 2004.05.12 16:10:00 - [28] Your tribal too when you look at your own culture. Your recent history hasnt been without it's own bloodshed Discorp --------------------------- Proud to be half Brutor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=69488&page=1R
Ashka Neris	Posted - 2004.05.12 16:12:00 - [29] Originally by: Randuin MaraL Originally by: Discorporation ... then the entire base of the CVA will be at war with the entire PRoM (if the latter chooses to formalise their alliance). Randuin makes another note for himself: "This seems to be the right order of events - CVA is formed and threatens PRM members already; PRM will have to formalize the defense." People seemto forget, PRoM is more than just a physcial territory, it's turning out to be a line in the sand --------------------------- Proud to be half Brutor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=69488&page=1R
Gaius Kador	Posted - 2004.05.12 16:15:00 - [30] Originally by: Ashka Neris Your tribal too when you look at your own culture. *laughs* You must really feel torn between your heritages Ashka. *laughs some more* ----------------------------------------------

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