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IcedBach Jr	Posted - 2004.05.12 00:39:00 - [1] Some pirate corps have the honor to declare themselves such. Others are the scum of the earth and hide behind a neutral face like the Fenix corp. I write this so all fellow travellers can put their corp rating accordingly. Thank you. Praeludium to success
Carzaro Merious	Posted - 2004.05.12 01:12:00 - [2] Well.. U aint first to tell EVE that they are rats.. As stated in an erlier thread, CFS has placed them on KOS after they decalred war on CFS. This was due to circumstances u can read on this forum, cfs forum or at the eve gaurdian. /Carzaro Merious Minister of Foreign Relations Per Aspera Ad Astra Truth and Honesty is what this all is about. Want me as a friend? I will be your friend as long as you are mine. So speak the truth and be honest and you will recive the rewards.
Eveplayer 3872	Posted - 2004.05.12 07:41:00 - [3] Not like we really care what either of you think about us, but here goes. We never declared war on CFS, some corp in CFS declared war on us. The reason they did so was because they had an UNMARKED friend die at our hands. And they expected retribution for an unmarked ship. Sorry but that will not happen, not in this lifetime at least. We have replaced many ships and items lost to friendly fire without argument, but to expect it in this case is obsurd. IcedBach, You can call us what you like, and mark us as you like.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.05.12 08:48:00 - [4] Originally by: Kickass Not like we really care what either of you think about us, but here goes. We never declared war on CFS, some corp in CFS declared war on us. The reason they did so was because they had an UNMARKED friend die at our hands. And they expected retribution for an unmarked ship. Sorry but that will not happen, not in this lifetime at least. We have replaced many ships and items lost to friendly fire without argument, but to expect it in this case is obsurd. IcedBach, You can call us what you like, and mark us as you like. Hmm, if the friend was in a n00b corp in 0.0, then I sure as hell would have killed him too, no questions asked. However, if he was in a corp (with or without CFS tags) then it was a simple case of pirating. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
IcedBach Jr	Posted - 2004.05.12 09:23:00 - [5] Whoa The problem is this, they do the lamest thing in the game, hide the fact they are scum so new corps dont know about them. They are currently pirating in Aridia and I saw that some respectable Aridia corps have them at high rating. Praeludium to success
Fragm	Posted - 2004.05.12 10:46:00 - [6] Well Well Well :) do We care? Yes we have not attacked any targets marked with standings to us or our allies we are here for FA and other scum like that we have taken about 60 bs in last week and we are on the move today so Aridia will be free of the so called pirates that u call us for a short while. We are going to hit Fa and then move down through to kill off CFS as they have asked for it. why did we not compo the so called ppl we shot and killed to be quite plane about it. 1 they did not ID 2 they were stupid enough to fly through a zone where 20 ships and pods had been killed in the last hour 3 there corp was net to ours and had no markings for us to id in neather there bio or corp description 4 after talking to them about compo 1 of them smak talked and the other was rude so would u compo them. have u been killed by frag? CFS destroyer Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
IcedBach Jr	Posted - 2004.05.12 12:13:00 - [7] So why did you ask me for a ransom of 10 mills for my corp to be left alone tactic used by the lamest sry, but Im not complaining about your corp being pirates, thats all and well, Im saying that you should do so the honourable way, btw, I have nothing against you killing FA corps, thats called cleaning out the trash, I have against your corp descript and that you pretend to be smth you arent this is my last say on the matter goodday to you all and happy hunting Praeludium to success
slothe	Posted - 2004.05.12 12:16:00 - [8] Edited by: slothe on 12/05/2004 21:19:46 Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" http://www.khainestar.com/eve
Fragm	Posted - 2004.05.12 12:44:00 - [9] That is such a stupid post you just made ??? y did u not mention that your corp mate was compoed for his ship and his loot handed back to him Mil can be a target if you want np we have let most ppl go with standings to us and vise versa so now i will set corp standings to -10 and we will kill you to. also when we kill your corp members we will tell them to read your post on here. in answer to the 10mil fool we need cash to sustain our killing of FA so get over it TFA are here and here to stay donations please transfered to fragm THANKYOU!! have you been killed by frag? CFS EXTERMINATION TEAM LEADER Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 12/05/2004 12:18:39 we are a knowm anti-pirate corp. fenix alliance invited us to join them to attack a piratee corp. we declined. the next thing one of our corp mates was attacked in an indy by this alliance in 0.4 space?? (yesterday) we thought u guys were anti-pirate. we know otherwise. whether u care or not you are now a target for ALL anti pirate corps Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.05.12 12:48:00 - [10] Edited by: Reiisha on 12/05/2004 12:50:49 Originally by: Fragm That is such a stupid post you just made ??? y did u not mention that your corp mate was compoed for his ship and his loot handed back to him Mil can be a target if you want np we have let most ppl go with standings to us and vise versa so now i will set corp standings to -10 and we will kill you to. also when we kill your corp members we will tell them to read your post on here. in answer to the 10mil fool we need cash to sustain our killing of FA so get over it TFA are here and here to stay donations please transfered to fragm THANKYOU!! have you been killed by frag? CFS EXTERMINATION TEAM LEADER Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 12/05/2004 12:18:39 we are a knowm anti-pirate corp. fenix alliance invited us to join them to attack a piratee corp. we declined. the next thing one of our corp mates was attacked in an indy by this alliance in 0.4 space?? (yesterday) we thought u guys were anti-pirate. we know otherwise. whether u care or not you are now a target for ALL anti pirate corps Fragm, please, oh pretty, pretty please come to curse and give arcane m0ovolution some action.... CA itself is evading us so far, so please give us some opponents/fragmeat.... Or are you too chicken? Do you only kill new players? Do you only kill mining carebears? Are you an idiot? (scratch that) I think that all of these questions can be marked with a "yes" as an answer. If you want to prove otherwise, come to Curse and we'll duke it out. If you don't, shut up and place your finely tuned english laguage elsewhere where most suns don't shine. Seriously, we need a challenge....... If you think you pose one, come over and prove it, otherwise, keep killing miners, nub. Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
olyyy	Posted - 2004.05.12 13:17:00 - [11] Originally by: DB Preacher Hmm, if the friend was in a n00b corp in 0.0, then I sure as hell would have killed him too, no questions asked. However, if he was in a corp (with or without CFS tags) then it was a simple case of pirating. dbp U would fire at me ? Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 )
Cardassius	Posted - 2004.05.12 13:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Fragm have you been killed by frag? CFS EXTERMINATION TEAM LEADER Killed by frag? lol? CFS Extermination Team Leader? With what? 5BS? Haven't seen you in CFS space for like 2 weeks. lol? :) And by the way, seems like CFS officials were right that you were pirating. ASCI Recruiting!
DeGrand	Posted - 2004.05.12 15:17:00 - [13] Edited by: DeGrand on 12/05/2004 15:18:37 Anti-pirates my ass...they might shoot pirates every so often (although I havent seen or heard they did) but they use the same tactics as pirates, extort ppl and blow everyone who doesnt have TFA set to positive standings to kingdom come..(and this comes out of their own mouths) well they try at least When they came to aridia they tried to shoot ppl..but never succeded. And they usually said they were just kidding when their prey got away. Then a local alliance started to organise a war with TFA cause of all the reports of unsuccesfull pirating. I guess TFA soon realised they shouldnt **** off ppl in their backyard (they were mining in the area ). They started to say they were sorry etc..that they were just trying to get some pvp experience and they werent gonna pod anyone... Soon as I left to settle in fountain I found out they tried to get ppl in aridia to attack FA with them and rev0l..without telling them the actual target (FA)..shady..course they didnt get much support. I got a lot of reports from old friends and even corpmates that got blown up and extorted by some `ex-members` from TFA that got into another corp..Think the corp was just a way to let the more pirate-orientated ppl get their kicks without doing harm to TFA. Fragm is one of the ppl that `left` btw... Well..I wouldnt trust TFA for a million isk..and that `new` corp even less..I got no problem with pirates but pirates that claim not to be pirates..well..that just shows u aint got the balls to be the badasses u so wanna be. Feel free to kill em all, as they feel free to kill you when they get the chance...
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.05.12 15:33:00 - [14] You want neutral pilots to stop and plead their cases with you upon entering a .4 systems. not knowing who you are or that it's you who are doing the killing there or be shot down? Talk about a powertrip. You do your own research before killing people or you are a pirate, what's so hard to get here Fragm? If you should be trying mindgames and advanced political rhetorics please stop already, no-one got any other impression of you than that of the covert gankster... Convert Stations
Fragm	Posted - 2004.05.12 15:45:00 - [15] Do i really need to post how many evo we already killed do you really want that to happen your guys hae been being slaughtered like lambs by us and if u chk your corp chat you would know that. I will come to CA and have fun with your miners and fighters but as you can see i am a busy man come to me and ill gladly pod you in the mean time FA and then CFS ill get round to you all sooner or later :) Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 12/05/2004 12:50:49 Originally by: Fragm That is such a stupid post you just made ??? y did u not mention that your corp mate was compoed for his ship and his loot handed back to him Mil can be a target if you want np we have let most ppl go with standings to us and vise versa so now i will set corp standings to -10 and we will kill you to. also when we kill your corp members we will tell them to read your post on here. in answer to the 10mil fool we need cash to sustain our killing of FA so get over it TFA are here and here to stay donations please transfered to fragm THANKYOU!! have you been killed by frag? CFS EXTERMINATION TEAM LEADER Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 12/05/2004 12:18:39 we are a knowm anti-pirate corp. fenix alliance invited us to join them to attack a piratee corp. we declined. the next thing one of our corp mates was attacked in an indy by this alliance in 0.4 space?? (yesterday) we thought u guys were anti-pirate. we know otherwise. whether u care or not you are now a target for ALL anti pirate corps Fragm, please, oh pretty, pretty please come to curse and give arcane m0ovolution some action.... CA itself is evading us so far, so please give us some opponents/fragmeat.... Or are you too chicken? Do you only kill new players? Do you only kill mining carebears? Are you an idiot? (scratch that) I think that all of these questions can be marked with a "yes" as an answer. If you want to prove otherwise, come to Curse and we'll duke it out. If you don't, shut up and place your finely tuned english laguage elsewhere where most suns don't shine. Seriously, we need a challenge....... If you think you pose one, come over and prove it, otherwise, keep killing miners, nub. Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Fragm	Posted - 2004.05.12 15:47:00 - [16] Cas i have seen how you guys fight i have been along side you as you fight nuf said no other comment needed. P.s see you soon Originally by: Cardassius Originally by: Fragm have you been killed by frag? CFS EXTERMINATION TEAM LEADER Killed by frag? lol? CFS Extermination Team Leader? With what? 5BS? Haven't seen you in CFS space for like 2 weeks. lol? :) And by the way, seems like CFS officials were right that you were pirating. Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Raeff	Posted - 2004.05.12 15:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Fragm That is such a stupid post you just made ??? y did u not mention that your corp mate was compoed for his ship and his loot handed back to him Mil can be a target if you want np we have let most ppl go with standings to us and vise versa so now i will set corp standings to -10 and we will kill you to. also when we kill your corp members we will tell them to read your post on here. in answer to the 10mil fool we need cash to sustain our killing of FA so get over it TFA are here and here to stay donations please transfered to fragm THANKYOU!! have you been killed by frag? CFS EXTERMINATION TEAM LEADER Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 12/05/2004 12:18:39 we are a knowm anti-pirate corp. fenix alliance invited us to join them to attack a piratee corp. we declined. the next thing one of our corp mates was attacked in an indy by this alliance in 0.4 space?? (yesterday) we thought u guys were anti-pirate. we know otherwise. whether u care or not you are now a target for ALL anti pirate corps think slothe's whole point is you dont seem to be able to tell friend from foe very well .. as to the comping of our corp mate, i could be wrong i'll check, but i dont think he was compd..if you feel the need to change our status to -10 then that decision is yours, and if so, we will be more than happy to return the favor...
Fragm	Posted - 2004.05.12 15:51:00 - [18] fair enough comment, but when we are doing this it is risky and you have to eliminate any possable threat. sometimes thats not the easy thing to do when someone jumps in with no standing and no info in bio what do you suggest man ? Originally by: Danton Marcellus You want neutral pilots to stop and plead their cases with you upon entering a .4 systems. not knowing who you are or that it's you who are doing the killing there or be shot down? Talk about a powertrip. You do your own research before killing people or you are a pirate, what's so hard to get here Fragm? If you should be trying mindgames and advanced political rhetorics please stop already, no-one got any other impression of you than that of the covert gankster... Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Fragm	Posted - 2004.05.12 15:53:00 - [19] Trust me he was given comp Originally by: Raeff Originally by: Fragm That is such a stupid post you just made ??? y did u not mention that your corp mate was compoed for his ship and his loot handed back to him Mil can be a target if you want np we have let most ppl go with standings to us and vise versa so now i will set corp standings to -10 and we will kill you to. also when we kill your corp members we will tell them to read your post on here. in answer to the 10mil fool we need cash to sustain our killing of FA so get over it TFA are here and here to stay donations please transfered to fragm THANKYOU!! have you been killed by frag? CFS EXTERMINATION TEAM LEADER Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 12/05/2004 12:18:39 we are a knowm anti-pirate corp. fenix alliance invited us to join them to attack a piratee corp. we declined. the next thing one of our corp mates was attacked in an indy by this alliance in 0.4 space?? (yesterday) we thought u guys were anti-pirate. we know otherwise. whether u care or not you are now a target for ALL anti pirate corps think slothe's whole point is you dont seem to be able to tell friend from foe very well .. as to the comping of our corp mate, i could be wrong i'll check, but i dont think he was compd..if you feel the need to change our status to -10 then that decision is yours, and if so, we will be more than happy to return the favor... Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.05.12 16:09:00 - [20] I suggest you let people pass till you've made a positive ID yourself, it's you who claim to not be pirates. It's not our business to cater to every selfproclaimed roadwarden out there and our pilot were never even asked for any form of identification to boot. Yet his vigil was that important a target that you after scrambling him still did not interrogate but blew him up then scrambled the pod and killed him too. On top of that you later refuse any reparations having been presented with the case and given the details about the Nebula Rasa not now nor anytime in the future is or will be alliance affiliated. What did you stand to gain from indiscriminate killings in your mind? Convert Stations
DeGrand	Posted - 2004.05.12 16:10:00 - [21] Possible threat? heheh...u guys are either paranoid to the extreme or just making up excuses again. Prolly the last one... I mean..incapacitating lone travellers and asking them for isk or either they will get shot...yeah real threat there..and what the heck are ya protecting anyways? the low level ore in your region? Ive been in aridia a long time and have had no probs at all...yeah the odd pirates that tried to shoot us but the other locals were all friendly etc..even mined in the same belts a lot. Then these guys show up and start shooting ppl..all because they were at some risk and we didnt have them set as friends..They must have a whole lot of bountyhunters after em for them to be so scared that they just shoot anything that flies by...i mean its not deep 0.0 with no sentries..So basically theres no other reason for shooting anyone there other than the fact that u are at war with ppl or just for the fun of it..
DeGrand	Posted - 2004.05.12 16:12:00 - [22] Edited by: DeGrand on 12/05/2004 16:17:58 And lol..a vigil a threat? come on now..just admit ur pirates already
Gahan Makdorr	Posted - 2004.05.12 17:06:00 - [23] I got yanked by the above mentioned corp, but I thought they were pirates. Im still pretty new to the game and never heard of them before. So are they or are they not?
Ghost hunter	Posted - 2004.05.12 18:11:00 - [24] blah blah blah... oh god im like frag now... oh god! lol hehe :x
Sierra	Posted - 2004.05.12 18:11:00 - [25] I think its cute we are getting some attention. Can I have your stuff when you die... O yeah, we got it already!!
Carzaro Merious	Posted - 2004.05.12 18:16:00 - [26] Edited by: Carzaro Merious on 12/05/2004 18:28:11 Now Kickass.. Lets try and get your facts straight before you start posting. FRAGM declared war with CFS.. Thats it. He did it ina convo with me. The total issue about this can be read in the CFS disclaimer. We never intended to declare any wars etc. All we wanted was to break relations and have our tag removed from Fenix alliance corps desc. This **ed Fragm off so he declared war. So once again Kickass.. Get the facts straight before you open your mouth. Now also.. The lack of negotiation skills and understanding of specific situations and how u conduct yourself in an alliance or wanting to be a friend of an alliance are null and void in TFA as well as Fragm. Fragm has the skill of a dead whale when it comes to negotiation and diplomatics. But then again, it dosent matter since we all know they are low lvl rats. Even m0o and other pirates corp has more honor and ehtics than TFA and especially Fragm. /Carz Originally by:** Kickass Not like we really care what either of you think about us, but here goes. We never declared war on CFS, some corp in CFS declared war on us. The reason they did so was because they had an UNMARKED friend die at our hands. And they expected retribution for an unmarked ship. Sorry but that will not happen, not in this lifetime at least. We have replaced many ships and items lost to friendly fire without argument, but to expect it in this case is obsurd. IcedBach, You can call us what you like, and mark us as you like. Per Aspera Ad Astra Truth and Honesty is what this all is about. Want me as a friend? I will be your friend as long as you are mine. So speak the truth and be honest and you will recive the rewards.
Halod Crane	Posted - 2004.05.12 18:21:00 - [27] yeah blah blah blah.... and yeah its cool we are getting all of this attition. "Keep It Real" "Its all about the Blob"
Tamar Killeon	Posted - 2004.05.12 19:31:00 - [28] TFA are nothing until they can survive in 0.0 they can't. so they stay in empire space because they are weak. they are like many newer players who think that a bunch of kills makes them good. by now they are starting to realize that they are not good, so they are becoming more and more indiscriminate about who they kill. they aren't pirates. they aren't good enough to be pirates. they are the equivalent of handicap wannabe serial killers, and their parents are all on the force, protecting them from any retaliatory action by the cops. in a month or 2, these will be the same corps crying because someone is breaking them in half. then they will all quit eve, like most wannabe's.
slothe	Posted - 2004.05.12 21:21:00 - [29] Originally by: Raeff Originally by: Fragm That is such a stupid post you just made ??? y did u not mention that your corp mate was compoed for his ship and his loot handed back to him Mil can be a target if you want np we have let most ppl go with standings to us and vise versa so now i will set corp standings to -10 and we will kill you to. also when we kill your corp members we will tell them to read your post on here. in answer to the 10mil fool we need cash to sustain our killing of FA so get over it TFA are here and here to stay donations please transfered to fragm THANKYOU!! have you been killed by frag? CFS EXTERMINATION TEAM LEADER Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 12/05/2004 12:18:39 we are a knowm anti-pirate corp. fenix alliance invited us to join them to attack a piratee corp. we declined. the next thing one of our corp mates was attacked in an indy by this alliance in 0.4 space?? (yesterday) we thought u guys were anti-pirate. we know otherwise. whether u care or not you are now a target for ALL anti pirate corps think slothe's whole point is you dont seem to be able to tell friend from foe very well .. as to the comping of our corp mate, i could be wrong i'll check, but i dont think he was compd..if you feel the need to change our status to -10 then that decision is yours, and if so, we will be more than happy to return the favor... i retracted whhat i said before. after checking he was paid back as you said so i apologise for making that mistake. Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" http://www.khainestar.com/eve
BiO	Posted - 2004.05.12 21:46:00 - [30] Fragm, Why all the hate? Convo me ingame. BiO --------------

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