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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2008.06.15 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Bosie The bulk of the blob was frigates and I have no idea how many we took on, but my overview was full of hostiles and some. I do know that we started with the few BS they had and worked down to BC then cruisers. It only a took a few explosions for the bulk of the militia to run leaving their sniper force which consisted of around five Eagles sitting around 150km away. They soon bailed when a pair of our ships started to get to close.
Fun fight, was pure chaos, looking forward to more!
Don't overfish them though:)
Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
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Gamesguy
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.15 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gojyu
Originally by: Eternal Error Edited by: Eternal Error on 15/06/2008 06:17:08 I love the fact that a 50 man fleet ran from 5 battleships, unless you are exaggerating the numbers. Somehow, it doesn't surprise me.
EDIT: Also, to the above poster, congratulations, you killed some carriers belonging to pilots who probably laughing so hard at hot dropping on faction warfare people they weren't paying attention. Three carriers to most large alliances, and particularly RA, is nothing. Fortunately for you guys, despite what you may think, you are not a threat to major alliances. If you were, the militia would already be dead.
Umm, dude, I've got nothing to do with factional warfare, I just find it ironic that all these people say that the militias are no threat, a bunch of noobs etc while the militia are having fun knocking pos' into reinforced and dropping officer fitted carriers. Especially given that these guys, for all intents and purposes, are in an npc corp. I also remember a few years back when a certain group who's MO was to spam the enemy with t1 frigates and cruisers was told that they would never be a threat to major alliances, and we all know how they're "already dead" 
Yes, the militia is having fun reinforcing POSes, and doing it without dreads.
I'm just gonna let that sink in for a moment, POS bashing is boring at best even with a decent fleet of dreads. That one pos gunner RA had probably had the time of his life killing thirty seven(rofl) ships by himself, and it wasn't even a death star!
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The Tzar
Malicious Intentions Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.15 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
Yes, the militia is having fun reinforcing POSes, and doing it without dreads.
I'm just gonna let that sink in for a moment, POS bashing is boring at best even with a decent fleet of dreads. That one pos gunner RA had probably had the time of his life killing thirty seven(rofl) ships by himself, and it wasn't even a death star!
I think some groups in EvE should take note that not everything needs to be done using cyno's and hotdropping. It is big, but it's certainly not clever 
Bravo Factional Militia's...  __________________________________________
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Talsha Talamar
Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2008.06.15 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Eternal Error [blah...blah...] Eternal Error on Fortunately for you guys, despite what you may think, you are not a threat to major alliances. If you were, the militia would already be dead.
I think never ever someone claimed that the FW actors would be a thread to any alliance outside of the FW areas of operation, or in any intermediate future.
As far as your comment is concerned, you do not do such things in public, please take a print out of your killboard, go to the bathroom and in gods name please use a tissue...
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darkin here
Is Usually Right
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Posted - 2008.06.15 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: darkin here on 15/06/2008 12:43:56
Originally by: Gojyu
Umm, dude, I've got nothing to do with factional warfare, I just find it ironic that all these people say that the militias are no threat, a bunch of noobs etc while the militia are having fun knocking pos' into reinforced and dropping officer fitted carriers. Especially given that these guys, for all intents and purposes, are in an npc corp.
While I applaud the FW guys mixing it up in low sec and am glad the OP had a good time in his battle, some of you really need a reality check about this carrier thing. Do you understand blob warfare? With enough Ibises even civ gatling guns would get kills.
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Vladimir Titov
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.15 12:59:00 -
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I am pretty certain that in the incident the OP described Veto held the field. We had just won a major fight in Auga and most of the fleet had dispersed into several smaller ones, and Veto were just too BS heavy for those still in the area.
I am tired of this debate between the FW crowd and the non-FW crowd. Everyone should be free to make their own choices on how they enjoy the game.
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.06.15 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky
Originally by: Atomos Darksun Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 15/06/2008 04:38:12 These things always happened, just nobody bothered to poke their head out of high sec to look 
So true. . .I feel like saying. . .what cave have you been living in?
Curse is the cave I've been living in.
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Soma Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.15 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Gojyu
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I take it the Veto BS won because the minmatar fleet had the funny as hell carebear-trying-to-be-a-pvper setups? 
Given those funny as hell carebear-trying-to-be-a-pvper setups have routed RA capital hotdrops in the last few days, I wouldn't be so sure.
I would. Anyone can get lucky, and RA isn't known for it's tactical brilliance. If they can't do a log in trap, they don't fight...
Off course not. That's why LV and a bunch of other alliances outnumbering RA 10 to 1 wiped them off the map, right? Oh wait...
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Frisky Minx
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.15 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Soma Khan
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Gojyu
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I take it the Veto BS won because the minmatar fleet had the funny as hell carebear-trying-to-be-a-pvper setups? 
Given those funny as hell carebear-trying-to-be-a-pvper setups have routed RA capital hotdrops in the last few days, I wouldn't be so sure.
I would. Anyone can get lucky, and RA isn't known for it's tactical brilliance. If they can't do a log in trap, they don't fight...
Off course not. That's why LV and a bunch of other alliances outnumbering RA 10 to 1 wiped them off the map, right? Oh wait...
Yea, never under estimate the power of exploit's...
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Gurney H
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Posted - 2008.06.15 20:10:00 -
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Yeah I dunno about the whole n00b carebear generalization, the fleets I've seen are manned by a core of former pirates, long-time PvPers, and former 0.0 people. I'd say they make up about 20-40% of your average fleet... and are always commanding it. Flown under some seriously competent FCs since this war started.
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.06.15 20:15:00 -
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Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 15/06/2008 20:15:15
Originally by: Frisky Minx Yea, never under estimate the power of exploit's...
Big words coming from an alt..
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Dapper Danny
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.15 21:32:00 -
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Heh the Op's experience is the same as one i witnessed 2 days ago, although mine was the Amarr v Pirates and the numbers where alot smaller (i think alot of these blob sizes are a little exaggerated) biggest fleet I was in was 36 people, but we only ever had about 20 max together at one time. - The Boot.ini Incident glances off your EvE Install causing no real damage! - |

libertarian cole
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Posted - 2008.06.16 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Gurney H Yeah I dunno about the whole n00b carebear generalization, the fleets I've seen are manned by a core of former pirates, long-time PvPers, and former 0.0 people. I'd say they make up about 20-40% of your average fleet... and are always commanding it. Flown under some seriously competent FCs since this war started.
Especially the gallente fleets. My god we have some good FCs in there. I have done 0.0 fighting and the FCs i have had in militia are just as good if not better (since they have to prove themselves). The gallente militia chat has become almost exclusively PvP oriented, and looks more like a very active zero alliance chat fighting a war then a "carbear" organization.
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DubanFP
Four Rings Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.06.16 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Constance Harme I know its awesome aint it. To think some people are against it.
I don't think most people are against it, as much as they are against the way it was implimented. Most of the big PVPers can't join it without leaving what they've worked for years to accomplish. I've been in Four Rings for 2 years and am a Director. I'm not going to leave my friends and Four Rings isn't going to leave our 0.0 lives.
It's like waving a steak in front of my face that I can never eat. That's what sucks about it. _______________
ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR |

XSarah
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Posted - 2008.06.16 05:52:00 -
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Your Anathema is 99.99% untouchable in low sec
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Becente Tourraine
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.06.16 05:57:00 -
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I just want to make sure I understand this. A 50 man gang freaks out when 5 BS's jump in through a low-sec gate. The 50 person gang then runs away from the 5 BS's and someone who wasn't even trying to fight posts about this epic battle?
I think we need a new thread on the Eve General forum for every single low-sec gate encounter. Why not? Better yet, every time anyone fights anyone anywhere we should spam a new thread.
This needs to happen.
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WulfWestphal
Niflhel
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Posted - 2008.06.16 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Becente Tourraine I just want to make sure I understand this. A 50 man gang freaks out when 5 BS's jump in through a low-sec gate. The 50 person gang then runs away from the 5 BS's and someone who wasn't even trying to fight posts about this epic battle?
I think we need a new thread on the Eve General forum for every single low-sec gate encounter. Why not? Better yet, every time anyone fights anyone anywhere we should spam a new thread.
This needs to happen.
read again. they _did_ fight. they started bailing out as veto crunched through the few battleships and battlecruisers the minmatar did muster. ---
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MellaRinn
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.16 06:16:00 -
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yarr, tbh... 
✖Veto Corp. Officer✖ Click the sig 4 my vids |

Feng Schui
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.16 06:30:00 -
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Agreed with most of the posts in here:
1) Fights like these always happen in low sec / 0.0; get out of high sec once in awhile and you'd have seen it by now
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2) Just because RA drops a carrier on something doesn't mean crap. They'll hotdrop on an ibis, after said ibis kills 1/2 their fleet, since their FC was afk.
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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Falcon Troy
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.16 06:58:00 -
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Edited by: Falcon Troy on 16/06/2008 06:58:50
Originally by: Feng Schui Agreed with most of the posts in here:
1) Fights like these always happen in low sec / 0.0; get out of high sec once in awhile and you'd have seen it by now
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2) Just because RA drops a carrier on something doesn't mean crap. They'll hotdrop on an ibis, after said ibis kills 1/2 their fleet, since their FC was afk.
FW is doing this already, exposing people to the life and times of fleet warfare and lowsec gangs.
Just because this is old to some doesn't mean it isn't new and exciting for others. Get off your high-horse and shut the **** up please.  _____________ Hai. |

Popsikle
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.16 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 16/06/2008 05:52:47
Originally by: Constance Harme I know its awesome aint it. To think some people are against it.
I don't think most people are against it, as much as they are against the way it was implimented. Most of the big PVPers can't join it without leaving what they've worked for years to accomplish. For example I've been in Four Rings for 2 years and am a Director. I'm not going to leave my friends and Four Rings isn't going to leave our 0.0 lives.
It's like waving a steak in front of my face that I can never eat. That's what sucks about it.
tbh FW wasnt really meant for 0.0'ers. You guys have your own reasons for combat, and your own empires to fight for. That said, so far FW is a hell of alot more fun then 0.0 ever was (except Fountain... how i love thee) ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime. |

Brachis
Eve Liberation Force Liberty.
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Posted - 2008.06.16 08:14:00 -
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I have to give Veto credit, despite my dislike for the group.
When you compare a group of 5 expertly fit raiding battleships which are fit to the brim with expensive modules, and designed very heavily for synergy with the rest of their pirate gang, a blob of barely coordinated players, most of whom are flying tech 1 cruisers or t2 frigates, who fit in often unpredictable ways amidst a slapped-together fleet...
Well, it's no surprise that the Battleships could hold them off.
Credit where credit is due... pirates know their trade, and the Militia fleets are often haphazard and filled with inexperienced players.
"I do this with but one small ship and I am called a terrorist... you do it with an entire fleet and are called an Emperor." |

Astria Tiphareth
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Posted - 2008.06.16 08:25:00 -
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Sounds cool, especially to see it, live, and not have to wander out to 0.0 and be part of some boring fiefdom and sell your soul to get to do so.
Originally by: Atomos Darksun Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 15/06/2008 04:38:12 These things always happened, just nobody bothered to poke their head out of high sec to look 
No, because the eve elitists would have all stopped and popped the frigate out of spite 'because I can' 
Seriously, get a grip, what's wrong with you people that you can't manage to enjoy the game, without raining on other people's parades, even on the forums?
(I hope I managed to follow your flaming guide, though I struggled to think up suitably big words whilst firing this off at work )
Edit: Of course the capitalistic feudal warlords of 0.0 EVE can't possible cope with an organised group of empire players daring to actually enjoy the game and not bow, subserviently, to their mighty skillpoints and MSN-run old boys club. There, any better? I was working hard to get sufficient spite and anti-0.0 sentiment in there, just to balance the thread out I like you 0.0 guys really  ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation or alliance, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties... |

Tippia
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.06.16 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Feng Schui 1) Fights like these always happen in low sec / 0.0; get out of high sec once in awhile and you'd have seen it by now
Hi! Can I join your corp?
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baron corrino
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.16 10:22:00 -
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I was so happy to see the uptake of Hi-sec players involved. They had some fun and so did we... Local chat was a blast!!!
At one point some character stated 'who are Veto, are they Amarr Militia NPC?.. so much fun!!
Epic lolz and good fun had by all.
<3
p.s bloody typical, I cancel sub, and fianlly content arrives in Low-sec.. ccp I love/hate you in equal measure.
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Demtalin le'Mercennaire
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.16 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 15/06/2008 04:38:12 These things always happened, just nobody bothered to poke their head out of high sec to look 
How often do you see (in low-sec or 0.0) 4 bs's jump into a system to take on (according to the OP) ~50 ships, even if they were just frigate sized, surely they'd take out atleast 1 BS, and they could loose all 50 ships and still be winning isk wise.
I recon it's a good story. -------- Billy Jean is not my lover |

Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.16 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 15/06/2008 04:38:12 These things always happened, just nobody bothered to poke their head out of high sec to look 
EXACLTY!!
Nothing new, just FW gave an excuse for some people stick their head in low sec to see this. ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.16 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Demtalin le'Mercennaire
Originally by: Atomos Darksun Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 15/06/2008 04:38:12 These things always happened, just nobody bothered to poke their head out of high sec to look 
How often do you see (in low-sec or 0.0) 4 bs's jump into a system to take on (according to the OP) ~50 ships, even if they were just frigate sized, surely they'd take out atleast 1 BS, and they could loose all 50 ships and still be winning isk wise.
I recon it's a good story.
Just because you dont have 50 frigs at gates , but you for sure see 4 or 5 BS to jump in to break another 4-5 BS camp. ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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Tippia
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.06.16 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon Nothing new, just FW gave an excuse for some people stick their head in low sec to see this.
…which means that the existing corps and alliances were doing a very poor job previously. So could everyone please stop giving the FW players these patronising pats on the head. The fact of the matter is that you screwed up royally in promoting the best part of the game for the last five years. You don't have a leg to stand on in trying to put down the joy and fun people are now experiencing.
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Illuvian
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.16 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gurney H Yeah I dunno about the whole n00b carebear generalization, the fleets I've seen are manned by a core of former pirates, long-time PvPers, and former 0.0 people. I'd say they make up about 20-40% of your average fleet... and are always commanding it. Flown under some seriously competent FCs since this war started.
I don't know about always commanding it, but usually the people I have seen commanding the fleets were very hardy and experienced people. I am a newb as far as pvp goes but getting the core of what you need to do as an FC wasn't quite so difficult for me. What I can say however is that, those of you discounting the FW fleets should do so at your own risk as we have fielded some pretty hefty, experienced, and powerhitting blobs in the past few days.
Metus improbos compescit, non clementia. It is fear, not kindness that restrains the wicked. |
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