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Ribosom
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Posted - 2004.05.12 09:13:00 -
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well, i know a few of u are on the edge for those black op ships. Me 2 cause i love scan systems and clean up space from "abandoned" ships  .
So i was just wondering what was the most exciting stuff u found?
U could name everything, but i¦d be most interested in those "sixt" ships parked in space.
Me and a friend found a whole fleet, i.e. 5 bs, 11 cruiser and 17 haulers. It took us almost 2 weekends but it was worth it lol.
The good thing is, as long as ppl don¦t use exploits to create bookmark safespots you¦l always be able to find them. You just have to try hard enough.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.12 09:34:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/05/2004 10:04:16
I'm totally useless with the scanner 
I'll pay you good isk for a tutorial
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.05.12 09:52:00 -
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Who said hacking wasn't implemented? Scanning for and locating ships on safespots is definitely hacking. It's also something I'm NOT good at 
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Doonwong
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Posted - 2004.05.12 10:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/05/2004 10:04:16
I'm totally useless with the scanner
I'll pay you good isk for a tutorial
If you need a scanner tutorial, contact me in game, I love the scanner 
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2004.05.12 10:25:00 -
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So far a rifter and a medium can i deleted the bookmark for 
Tok me about 4 hrs of warping and about a 3 hrs of flying towards the target.
But so far the scanner prize of the month goes to Frantik for removing a Raven from a C4 safespot 188 au from the sun !
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Ribosom
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Posted - 2004.05.12 10:28:00 -
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Indeed scanning is an art.
A guide would be worth as lot, if it¦d would contain the tip and trick section.
but lets wait for what these black op frigs are capable of.
BTW, if you guys have some interesting "graveyard ship spots" give me a call and we make a deal. Me and my interceptor get bored.
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2004.05.12 11:26:00 -
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Freaky, before the Interceptors came in to the game Scanning was some kind of hobby of Elaine... I was in an Kestrel with 2 MWD 1 AB and Nanos, scanning ppl at their safespots! That was real fun.
Best abonded Ship i found was an Armageddon in deep Space around the CFS.
Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.05.12 13:02:00 -
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i can generally scan most ships to within a 1au straight line, and this doesnt take ery long, just directional scanning and warping between 2 colidable objects such as a stargate and station, once you find the trajectory u narrow it down by draining ur cap and warping, checking if the object is in front or behind you, repeat for 30min and you should have whatever object you want within a 1au straight line in space
thats the easy part, ive never spent the time to mwd 1au in a ship to find them tho...
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2004.05.12 13:15:00 -
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maller with a bestower next to it are my best, I just got a shuttle yesterday :P
a few days ago some one got a Jokers apoc fully out fitted with mmining lasers at a safespot, that was funny.
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Granger
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Posted - 2004.05.12 14:12:00 -
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What you mean got a Fully loaded Apoc..... what you just find the ship or you attack the ship in these safe spots, do not get it..
Then again I do not get the whole scanning thing, I kinda have the directional part down, but still can not narrow it down enough... What do you set the range at initially ???
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Jexter
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Posted - 2004.05.12 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jexter on 12/05/2004 14:57:21
Originally by: Mitchello
a few days ago some one got a Jokers apoc fully out fitted with mmining lasers at a safespot, that was funny.
Well that wasn't a Jokers apocalypse (we don't use those ships, don't even have the skills), it was one of our customers' ship. He was using that temporary safespot during one mining operation. Not like I didn't tell him several times that leaving an Apocalypse in space wasn't really a smart move  . I believe the "thief" got confused by the Jokers secure cans anchored in place.
Still a good catch anyways!
Yes the scanner is a wonderfull tool in the right hands. For example in the case mentioned by Mitchello, somebody managed to find this Apocalypse a good 5au away from any orbital object. It takes some scanner knoweledge and some patience. This is a good place to start.
Regards.
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Ribosom
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Posted - 2004.05.12 15:10:00 -
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Yes this guide is highly recommended.
And after that and some hours of caculations, midwarp bm¦s, directional scanning and triangulation lets talk again.
What do u guys use for the final approach, i.e. the last 100 T Km?
3 mwds on an interceptor doing approx. 1500 km per burst or a puisher 2 mwds doing 8,3 Km/s permanently?
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.05.12 17:04:00 -
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Hmm, i've found ammo/loot depots, a few ships, a few enemies..
I love the scanner, and I'd like to think i'm relatively good with it :P
Just the other day, I got to within 2000km of a CA dude sitting at safespot, he must of checked his own scanner because he bolted away ASAP  
damn, just 5more min >_<
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2004.05.12 17:16:00 -
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well, i have managed to find quite alot.
2x caldari shuttles with 1500run cruisemissile bpcs in one of them, dont remember who it was, but thx anyway. (im still using them :D)
1x Heavily damaged Blackbird that contained some torps and cruise.
2x Probes
1x Griffin
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.05.12 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 12/05/2004 17:37:41
TWD and me found an abandoned CA tempest in A2. Left the guy a complimentary shuttle to replace his loss
Found lots of safespots, only problem is that most of the time they log as soon as they see you in their grid (since the last patch, before they'd just warp to another safe spot)
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PaulLRyan
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Posted - 2004.05.12 17:39:00 -
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Managed to find a punisher, loads of shuttles, and a couple of cans that were quite useful 
Thanks a lot to a great teacher who I'll not name but he knows who he is 
Cheers
PL
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.05.12 18:55:00 -
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got some indies and popped them
Wanna fly with me?
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okiji
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Posted - 2004.05.12 21:36:00 -
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Usually when I'm tracking down an enemy ship I end up finding an abandoned ally instead. Still good fun though.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2004.05.13 04:37:00 -
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Best scanning result, a friend in the alliance found a safespot of a CA guy hiding in our system. We ganked his Megathron while he was afk, with a sexy little msg attached
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.05.13 05:17:00 -
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best scanning result - found a piece of beef jerky!
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.05.13 05:41:00 -
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We found a depot with 2 bships, a bunch of cruisers, and a ton of indies once. 30+ ships iirc
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.05.13 05:42:00 -
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Various ammo dumps, shuttles and such. I've gotten close to some active enemies at safespots, but they usually just log or warp. Once I managed to track down a cruiser who's pilot was afk. That was a wonderful reward for my patience.
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Je'kalai
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Posted - 2004.05.13 09:15:00 -
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How the?
I've used scanner to find things NPC related in one system that were months of travel away from closest warpable object.
What are these safespots? People just leave parked ships there sometimes and it shows up on scanner?
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.05.13 11:08:00 -
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Today I found a Stabber, a Thorax, 4 Vexor's, 1 Blackbird, Badger Mark 2, 5 shuttles, and a condor.
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Ribosom
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Posted - 2004.05.13 11:38:00 -
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damn, that comes close to my findings.
@ prophetguru, the thing u mentioned was dukath and me in xetic space, awesome. When we finnaly approached that safespot we had lagg for 2 minutes due to those 30+ ships in that location.
Well they deserved it, cause they smacktalked us lise "your to dumb to find it...bla bla"
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Bembledak Fistybuns
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Posted - 2004.05.13 13:34:00 -
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My favourite was finding an afk Raven we were at war with (still are :D). My bb warped in and scrambled him, I called my friends over before I realised he was afk.
Sorry Deathblow, I suppose I could of left u alone knowing you were afk but thats war dude :D
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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2004.05.13 17:36:00 -
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With most people aware of how a bookmark hundreds of AU from anything can be created, how useful is the scanner, really?
"Men are going to die..
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.05.13 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij
With most people aware of how a bookmark hundreds of AU from anything can be created, how useful is the scanner, really?
There are many people that play EVE. Not all are aware, and many are dumb.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.05.13 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij
With most people aware of how a bookmark hundreds of AU from anything can be created, how useful is the scanner, really?
I am told that those are the easiest spots to find.
Don't ask me how, only time I find anything is if someone gives me a bookmark to it lol.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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EnderWiggin
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Posted - 2004.05.13 21:14:00 -
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There's a Mammoth tucked away in the system I'm based out of right now...I can't fly it, but I thought I'd try and find the safespot and give it to someone who could :).
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Polux
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Posted - 2004.05.13 22:36:00 -
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I found in 1 hour a cargo container with 1 trit in it
I was practising btw :)
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Faramir
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Posted - 2004.05.13 22:51:00 -
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Found lots of ark/spod/crokite roids in the "hidden belts" or all by their lonesome in a dual mwd kestrel.
Twd from m0o managed to warp to someone at 1km after using scanner
Twd + scanner = perfect match
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Je'kalai
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Posted - 2004.05.13 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij
With most people aware of how a bookmark hundreds of AU from anything can be created, how useful is the scanner, really?
Ok I'll bite, being a newb and all.
How is this possible?
Only way I know how to create a bookmark is when you have your ship at that spot.
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.05.14 00:26:00 -
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Joe Blob
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Posted - 2004.05.14 01:40:00 -
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What infuriates me is the direction scan.... one minute it will show everything in 90, 60, 30, then nothing in 15, but click back to 30 and up, lo and behold, its all magically disapeared, even tho you can see a few planets etc within range, and direction
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RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.05.14 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/05/2004 10:04:16
I'm totally useless with the scanner
I'll pay you good isk for a tutorial
Lallante stated that she could find anyone in local without 30 mins (or what ever it was)
She can probably teach you
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.14 02:38:00 -
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I've found enemies hiding at safespots multiple times
Ie, not abandoned ships, but active battleship pilots hiding because they are outnumbered in local.
Sure was a nasty surprise for Xetic during our short war when I found them at safespots 2 times in 3 days
Unfortunately, I've only once came across an abandoned battleship parked in space, and that was parked there by a friendly pilot (who of course was told to remove it ASAP).
The scanner sure is a good friend.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.14 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Miz Cenuij
With most people aware of how a bookmark hundreds of AU from anything can be created, how useful is the scanner, really?
I am told that those are the easiest spots to find.
Don't ask me how, only time I find anything is if someone gives me a bookmark to it lol.
Yes, indeed, it's far from impossible to find these. There are other ways to make safespots that are much much harder to find.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.05.14 11:30:00 -
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think a good one is when dukath and a stain guy spent hours locating one in xetic space.
17 mark V's 4 battleships and serveral cruiser
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Raffer Rush
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Posted - 2004.05.14 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Miz Cenuij
With most people aware of how a bookmark hundreds of AU from anything can be created, how useful is the scanner, really?
I am told that those are the easiest spots to find.
Don't ask me how, only time I find anything is if someone gives me a bookmark to it lol.
Those ARE actually quite easy to find.
I wount disclose this off course, but it is a combination of knowing how it works, and know how to use your scanner in several modes...
I found a ship 760 AU away from nearest celestial object, and it didn't take very long either, less than a hour...
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p0ma
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Posted - 2004.05.15 04:16:00 -
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I found 5 industrials fully loaded with arkonor once as well as 3 fitted out thorax's in the same spot. Man that was a pain in the ass to find though. I suck with a scanner... I think it took me like 3 days to find that crap.
:)
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Ifni
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Posted - 2004.05.15 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Raffer Rush
I found a ship 760 AU away from nearest celestial object, and it didn't take very long either, less than a hour...
How?
the max scanner range is 15 au or something like that
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Lorach
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Posted - 2004.05.15 11:10:00 -
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The scanner seems like a very good tool and i've yet to master it.
If someone could write a bit of a better updated scanner guide than the one on eve-i im sure it'd be very popular.
Lorach
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Raffer Rush
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Posted - 2004.05.15 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ifni
Originally by: Raffer Rush
I found a ship 760 AU away from nearest celestial object, and it didn't take very long either, less than a hour...
How?
the max scanner range is 15 au or something like that
I wount tell, you would be dissapointed how easy it is 
I am sure many people other than myself have made a discorvey in the usage of scanner on all three modes and still be able to find ships well outside scanner range ... It is not a exploit or anything, just knowing how it all works.
So trust me, safespots hundreds of AU away from anything isn't all that safe.
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SolApathy
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Posted - 2004.05.15 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: SolApathy on 15/05/2004 23:33:02
It's getting deep in here...WE've found several crusiers and haulers in our time....But 760 AU away...I am putting on my waist high waiders in order to keep myself dry.
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Ifni
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Posted - 2004.05.15 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Raffer Rush
So trust me, safespots hundreds of AU away from anything isn't all that safe.
maybe...
but would literally take you years to get there, so it is pretty safe.
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Raffer Rush
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Posted - 2004.05.16 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ifni
Originally by: Raffer Rush
So trust me, safespots hundreds of AU away from anything isn't all that safe.
maybe...
but would literally take you years to get there, so it is pretty safe.
Nope
A few hours at most to get within looting/killing distance.
You are thinking wrong about how it's done ;)
nuff said
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SolApathy
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Posted - 2004.05.16 04:02:00 -
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YEs I am sure you are a magical being that can even exceed the maximum warping distance of a battleship that warps to a safespot. (about 560 AU)
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.05.16 06:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 16/05/2004 06:41:53
Originally by: SolApathy
YEs I am sure you are a magical being that can even exceed the maximum warping distance of a battleship that warps to a safespot. (about 560 AU)
Yeah, cause when you stop you can warp again...
BTW, interceptors/shuttles warp at 6au/sec and a lot longer than battleships do.
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Nyk0n
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Posted - 2004.05.16 11:21:00 -
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Came within 1/2 a au of a scorp and a apoc when the owner came into the system and kinda sussed us when he saw us on his scanner from his safespot
would av been sweet
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.16 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ifni
Originally by: Raffer Rush
So trust me, safespots hundreds of AU away from anything isn't all that safe.
maybe...
but would literally take you years to get there, so it is pretty safe.
I see someone doesn't have a clue about safespots and scanner.
Originally by: SolApathy
YEs I am sure you are a magical being that can even exceed the maximum warping distance of a battleship that warps to a safespot. (about 560 AU)
A pod warps 3000+ au in one warp.
Not to mention that you can warp again, again and again...
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Telsa Lightning
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Posted - 2004.05.16 18:14:00 -
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Here is how I use the scanner (apologies if this spoils anybodies secrets).
Scanner range is 14AU. Check out local system (F11). Make the biggest "box" around the system by using warpable objects. Line up two warp lines at the edge of the system. On each warp line, while warping place down bookmarks every ~20AU. Go back and warp to each one. Then warp from one warp line to another warp line, forming a grid around the system, at around 20 AU from each other. At each location, check out what is in the scanner. Remember the bookmarks are when you press end, not when you first bring it up.
Now that you have something interesting in the scanner, zero in on it. Use direction to get the rough location it is in. You can sort of triangulate it if you want. Use ~4 bookmarks that are around the location of interest, and warp amongst them. Use the same technique: While warping, bookmark as fast as possible. Go back over the bookmarks, and triangulate where the prey is.
Using this method you can get closer and closer to it. When you are close enough, fire up the dual MWD and fly in.
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Telsa Lightning
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Posted - 2004.05.16 18:18:00 -
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I have heard that there is away to warp past any warpable objects. But then I thought that was an exploit, and has been removed. Since we can't talk about it then, maybe two winks to say it was removed, and one wink to say it's still there, but not to use it?
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.16 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Telsa Lightning
I have heard that there is away to warp past any warpable objects. But then I thought that was an exploit, and has been removed. Since we can't talk about it then, maybe two winks to say it was removed, and one wink to say it's still there, but not to use it?
One wink.
But they are pretty useless IMO, would never use one.
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:26:00 -
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I once helped a guy find his Moa. He'd ejected from it while it was still moving (D'oh!). This was prepatch when ships didn't stop when you ejected. I managed to get ahead of it in my Probe (again, prepatch when Probes used to REALLY shift), eject, and board it on the fly. Felt pretty pleased with myself, handed the ship over to the guy and he gave me a million Isk for my trouble, which was quite a lot to me.
Finding a moving object was much more of a challenge than a stationary one!
Other than that, where I responded to a specific distress signal in local, I'm not very good with the scanner. If I set it to really fine resolution, and use both hands AND a star chart, I can occasionally find my own arse.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:41:00 -
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twd is the scanning god
i fear him
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2004.05.18 17:59:00 -
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One Dominix, four Thorax, and two Hoarders at a "safe"spot. Fitted with wimpy mining gear, except for the Hoarders which had nice expanders.
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Keft Lock
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:26:00 -
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Finding and killing a ca tempest that was talking trash then went afk 2k from a moon. :) surprise surprise when he woke up in a station.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.05.18 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sara Kerrigan
One Dominix, four Thorax, and two Hoarders at a "safe"spot. Fitted with wimpy mining gear, except for the Hoarders which had nice expanders.
Wow, I found the exact same number and type of ships last night in EC-P8R. I love it when people leave battleships in safespots that are EXACTLY between the gates. Free battleships make me happy :)
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Quanus
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Posted - 2004.05.19 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 12/05/2004 17:37:41
TWD and me found an abandoned CA tempest in A2. Left the guy a complimentary shuttle to replace his loss
Found lots of safespots, only problem is that most of the time they log as soon as they see you in their grid (since the last patch, before they'd just warp to another safe spot)
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