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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2008.06.21 11:14:00 -
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Is it really acceptable for a CSM Chair to be openly biased against two of his fellow voted representatives? And to openly admit this in a crowded local chat?
Is it really acceptable for the CSM to have two members that are representing an organization biased against the enjoyment of all EVE-players outside their organization?
Make suicide ganking more difficult!
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Inanna Zuni
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Posted - 2008.06.21 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Judas Jones
wtf?
I have no disdain for Jade, indeed having met the chap he seems quite reasonable and friendly!
IZ
My principles
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Windjammer
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Posted - 2008.06.21 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Judas Jones
How old is Inanna Zuni, seriously?
You remind me of politician's who like to sit on the back bench and ***** about thoes in the 'lime light' yet if you cannot handle yourself in a mature fashion in your current 'state' I sure as hell would not want you near any kind of position of power.
Grow up and stop your pointless and self destructive campaign of distaine for Jade which is self evident in so many of your postings and the way you say it. you don't have to go out looking for trouble, it's going to find you.
Judas.........Inanna is not Darius and as far as I know is not affiliated with goonswarm or SA. Did you become confused?
Windjammer
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teh punisher
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2008.06.21 21:19:00 -
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oh my god someone didn't like someone else in an internet spaceship game i must post on the forums about it to feel important
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Tyr Zewa
Tax Collectors
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Posted - 2008.06.26 12:53:00 -
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The next election should feature AntiVotes, forcing people to be accepted by several groups and not just one wouldn't be bad.
I really hope Jade Constantine is the next Christoph Blocher. (you can find that on wikipedia :P)
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Aneu Angellus
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.06.26 23:38:00 -
[66]
Goons are a cancer on eve, end of...
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Caldreean
Dawnwalkers
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Posted - 2008.06.27 06:56:00 -
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I don't really care about the CSM one way or another. I'm of the opinion it's just CCP's joke on us players - a distraction of sorts. Having said that, every time Jade makes a Goon cry I like him more and more. Goons have stated pretty clearly their goal in Eve is to make the game miserable for everyone else. Why should anyone on the Council, other than the two Goonies, care two figs about what they have to say? STFU and go back to ganking miners.
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Sunwillow Auryn
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Posted - 2008.06.27 07:47:00 -
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Personally I would prefer any biases to be in the public domain - if Jade had not said anything about anti-Goon bias but had instead kept it secret and sabotaged Goonswarm's <sarcasm> no doubt noble and glorious </sarcasm> grand plans with his awesome power to call a vote in CSM meetings (a power so awesome that my knees are trembling. Really.)... would that be any better?
I have way more respect for people in the public eye who acknowledge their personal bias than those who try to hide it.
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Vlammetje
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Posted - 2008.06.27 11:26:00 -
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The direction this thread is turning isn't a surprise. As long as Goons keep coming from a place of "us against the world", you might not be surprised if the world treats Goons as such.
CSM, I'm glad you had a productive meeting. Keep up the good work.
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Aloriana Jacques
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:49:00 -
[70]
Fact - People don't like ALL people.
Fact - Everyone is biased, it only depends what to.
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Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 28/06/2008 15:51:28
You think everyone at the UN thinks the same?
You think they all like each other?
You think they find someone form a different planet, exempt from their petty differences to run it?
Same thing.
They get together precisely because they disagree.
This isn't Eve vs SA, or old skool vs new kids on the block, it is all of Eve, for all of Eve - good, bad, and ugly.
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |
Big Al
Stoat's Ultimate Carebear Adventure
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Posted - 2008.06.28 16:33:00 -
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It's about as appropriate as a watch dog group not doing any watching. |
Feng Schui
Minmatar
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.29 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Feng Schui on 29/06/2008 01:11:21
Everyone has their own opinions, both in game and out of game. Who cares if any particular board member has in-game issues with another board member, or their corporation?
As long as they are capable and willing to look past their in-game political affluences to achieve the greater good for all of the Eve players, I have no issue.
Did you guys mention the pilgrim to the dev's? Do they know this ship exists? lol
PS: Goons suck. 
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 02:05:00 -
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Jade constant-fail
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Xenofur
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.29 12:48:00 -
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Edited by: Xenofur on 29/06/2008 12:50:12
Disclaimer: I do not disapprove of anyone having opinions. God knows i have my own thoughts on Bob. I do however object to letting opinions impact the job one is supposed to do.
For one, i agree that this issue is a serious one. For a simple reason:
The CSM is supposed to benefit the whole of Eve. If a CSM member deems it right to ignore the concerns of Eve players not based on the merit of the concerns, but on who they are, then they are quite simply failing utterly at what they're supposed to do and have no business in such a position. ("Speaking personally I've got absolutely no interest answering goonie concerns or questions at this point in the process.")
However, as this thread is quite old now, and Jade has actually been forced to meet goons, the big question is: Has your opinion changed Jade? Are you now willing to act along the lines you are supposed to or do you still think letting prejudice rule over reason is fine? |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.29 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Edited by: Avon on 28/06/2008 15:51:28
You think everyone at the UN thinks the same?
You think they all like each other?
You think they find someone form a different planet, exempt from their petty differences to run it?
Same thing.
They get together precisely because they disagree.
This isn't Eve vs SA, or old skool vs new kids on the block, it is all of Eve, for all of Eve - good, bad, and ugly.
That's another horrible analogy. What the analogy should be is....
Do you think that Ban Ki-moon (the current secretary-general of the UN), uses his position to attempt to bring these different sides together in an attempt to help, or does he use this position to ignore others and push his personal agenda?
What's more important is that Jade's "chair" will only exist for so long, but we can keep putting Goons in the CSM until we all go play another game.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.02 15:40:00 -
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Its fine with me. For every pubby that likes to ****-talk about goons as if we're all remedial, theres 5000 people that will shoot you ingame, and never vote for you.
Jade is a douche.
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MC McMic
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.02 17:12:00 -
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I don't care if someone insults Goons or Goonswarm as an entity at all. It's amusing on so many different levels. However, lumping thousands of people together in real life and declaring you hate every last one of those people because they hail from a particular, fictional internet spaceship guild is just childish and moronic no matter how you cut it. Whatever your affiliation may be, the CSM is a real life entity, and your EVE corp/alliance is not. Even the conversations you have with characters in-game should be taken with a grain of salt. One can only hope people see the difference there and act accordingly.
However, seeing as how Jade responds with what amounts to role-playing, in-game rubbish every time someone mentions a goon, I think my trust is likely misplaced. Someone asks him a CSM question and he invariably responds with irrelevant bs about 0.0 politics or "goon alts". Please. 
Step one of being an effective chair would be to separate reality from fiction. After that, you're on your own. CCP obviously isn't going to provide you with any help.
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Elektrea
Minmatar
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.03 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: MC McMic
However, lumping thousands of people together in real life and declaring you hate every last one of those people because they hail from a particular, fictional internet spaceship guild is just childish and moronic no matter how you cut it.
The argument goes both ways. Your constant banter against Smash/Northern Coalition, is just well, childish and moronic no matter how you cut it.
Happy HOur Minning and Industry
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MC McMic
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.05 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: MC McMic on 05/07/2008 01:32:33
Edited by: MC McMic on 05/07/2008 01:31:05
Originally by: Elektrea
Originally by: MC McMic
However, lumping thousands of people together in real life and declaring you hate every last one of those people because they hail from a particular, fictional internet spaceship guild is just childish and moronic no matter how you cut it.
The argument goes both ways. Your constant banter against Smash/Northern Coalition, is just well, childish and moronic no matter how you cut it.
Actually, it doesn't go both ways. I'm not obligated to interact with members of the EVE community in real life (nor would I want to). So, I can be as difficult and obnoxious as I please.
I know you were probably quite pleased with your lame attempt at turning an argument around against someone, much like the vast majority of lame internet personalities. Unfortunately, it resulted in great failure in this instance. I am not a CSM rep. I am not required to act accordingly.
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feiht'd'ero
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Posted - 2008.07.05 08:06:00 -
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So after reading through this thread it can be summed up to....
Goons> WHAAAAAA!!!!!! OUR REP NO CSM WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!
EVE general pop>> well ye...
Goons> WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA no play fair WHAAAAAAAAAA
EVE general pop> but......
Goons> WHAAAAAAAAAAA gona break it WWHAAAAAAAAA
And just to be one of the cool kids i am going to put a C/D here .
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.05 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 05/07/2008 20:17:21
Originally by: feiht'd'ero
So after reading through this thread it can be summed up to....
Goons> WHAAAAAA!!!!!! OUR REP NO CSM WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!
EVE general pop>> well ye...
Goons> WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA no play fair WHAAAAAAAAAA
EVE general pop> but......
Goons> WHAAAAAAAAAAA gona break it WWHAAAAAAAAA
And just to be one of the cool kids i am going to put a C/D here .
yeah dude you got us. nice one. those damn goonies will be crying for days over this.
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