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Darth Tickles
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
38
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Posted - 2012.03.13 01:25:00 -
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I wish we were being coerced...then they wouldn't need to send me 5 ******* pings a day about the need to get out the vote. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2012.03.13 01:39:00 -
[32] - Quote
Prove it. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2012.03.13 01:40:00 -
[33] - Quote
I'll just save you the trouble, you can't. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2012.03.13 01:41:00 -
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If you didn't vote for The Mittani anything bad that happens to you is your fault. |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
844
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Posted - 2012.03.13 01:43:00 -
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This sad extortion is sadly true. I personally will only get 50% reimbursement for the next 6 months for voting two days later than I should have |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.03.13 02:23:00 -
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Day 2
1 day after from my original posting of Trabzz's startling revelation that the entire Goonswarm Federation are being pressured into voting for The Mittani. With threats of retribution to members of the Goonswarm things are looking bleak for the future of a democraticall elected CSM.
After this claim came to light the original argument of members of the Goonswarm was
Powers Sa wrote: You mean terribly bad posters getting set to read only? They can still PM their reimbursement requests.
This by it's self was a travesty against the normal freedom of political expression. When asked to provide examples of this bad posting by Trabzz, the members of Goonswarm were less than forth coming.
But to make matters worse, at NO TIME in the last 24 hours has any member of Goonswarm Federation actually denied the claims of their fellow alliance member. They have made jokes about it, showing us all what Goonswarm truly feel about the CSM and the elections to enter it. In some cases they have actually confirmed it even as a troll, as the expression goes every lie has a shadow of truth.
Sverige Pahis wrote:This sad extortion is sadly true. I personally will only get 50% reimbursement for the next 6 months for voting two days later than I should have
I'm sure they will now deny the claims of extortion or vote rigging just for the fact I have pointed this out or will produce a battered Trabzz with a statement about how the original post was a troll and the vote was given freely not taken forcefully. As well as the fact that no other member of Goonswarm wanted to try for CSM7 candidacy.
One member of the Goonswarm even went so far as to threaten me with the blob for bringing this to the general voters attention.
esc shk wrote:Jesus **** I hope we invade these bastards next.
Another claimed I was slandering The Mittani
Red Templar wrote: Since you are a fan of fancy words and long definitions you should to to your favorite wiki and read what slander means. Tell us about that later pls.
Defamation From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
DefamationGÇöalso called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)GÇöis the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. This can be also any disparaging statement made by one person about another, which is communicated or published. It is usually a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).
In common law jurisdictions, slander refers to a malicious, false,and defamatory spoken statement or report, while libel refers to any other form of communication such as written words or images. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism. Related to defamation is public disclosure of private facts, which arises where one person reveals information that is not of public concern, and the release of which would offend a reasonable person. "Unlike [with] libel, truth is not a defense for invasion of privacy."
The key to slander or in this case libel as it is written, is that it refers to malicious, false and defamatory written words or images. The word false being relevant there, as well as the fact that this matter is of the highest public concern.
Worst of all Xython compared me to a free to air Australian children's television game show.
The fact that The Mittani has stated "Due to the anticipated higher turnout and the new top-seven rule, I expect that most of the nullsec blocs will only run one candidate for CSM7, where three (GSF, the Northern Coalition, and XIX) managed to get two seats each under CSM6." This begs the question what does happen in Goonswarm if someone other than The Mittani wants to be in the CSM. Well thanks to the courage of Trabzz, we now know. The other candidates supporters are effectively shut out of the perks of the Goonswarm.
For further conformation of the utter contempt being shown by the leadership of the Goonswarm to the CSM and the idea of a democratic election, we look to The Mittani himself.
The Mittani wrote:Most of the extra votes in the initial 3 days of voting seem to have come from blocs, who are even more engaged this time than they were in CSM6. We're seeing 30% more voting from GSF alone. The rest of EVE hasn't woken up to the importance of the CSM; their loss.
How does he know that Goonswarm Federation are voting 30% more than last year if they are not using methods like screen captures to check on the votes of their fellow Goons.
In Tebor Daehdoow's post he states "Bloc-candidates are those who are running as the official candidate of a large alliance or coalition of alliances. The bloc-candidates in this election are Greene Lee (-A-), Dovinian (TEST), UAxDEATH (Legion of xXDEATHXx), Elise Randolph (PL/RaidenDOT/NCDOT), Kelduum Revaan (EVE University -- also a Special Case, see below), and of course, The Mittani (Goonswarm)." Are the other blocs doing the same extortion on their members, this we may never know unless more courageous people like Trabzz step forward.
With the removal of the alt and mains categories there is now no difference between any of the positions and the power they wield. True only the top 7 get the trip to Iceland for summits now. So why would The Mittani be fighting so hard and using tactics like those exposed by Trabzz. One simple word "Hubris". He is the CEO of Goonswarm, he is called a King or Emperor. He wants to be the Chairman of CSM 7 as he was for CSM6. Other dirty tricks of the Goonswarm have come to light with this CSM election. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.03.13 02:24:00 -
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it's considered a slap on the wrist for the crimes of barbie loving One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.03.13 02:26:00 -
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Due to some of the Goonswarms claims that I use fancy words and long definitions,
Hubris From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hubris, also hybris, means extreme haughtiness, pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence or capabilities,
especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.
With a statement like
The Mittani wrote: Last year, I vowed that I would transform the CSM from a powerless council wracked by ignorance and infighting into a powerful tool of player advocacy. At the time, this was seen as a bold
- if not impossible - claim; the CSM had been essentially useless over the years, save for getting a skill queue added. Each election cycle, candidates would promise the moon and stars,
and none delivered.
But I did.
He definitely has an overestimation of his own competence or capabilities. The Mittani wasn't the only person on CSM6 but if you listened to him you would believe he was.
In Tebor Daehdoow's post he claims "One of the classic techniques used by bloc-candidate supporters to get people to waste votes is to engage in a massive trolling attack to generate
both a huge thread and sympathy votes. This is probably happening in the campaign thread of Issler Dainze." As I write this Issler's CSM7 thread is 618 replies long and has a massive 23,840 views. Is it packed full of Goonswarm drivel? Well frankly yes.
Issler Dainze is an excellent candidate who has stood for the same things for many years, not being part of the Bloc crowd has found it hard for her to get back into the CSM. She stands
for
Issler Dainze wrote: I am announcin I will be running and organizing the "Rational Party of Eve". Let me explain my plans and ask for your support.
The "Rational Party of Eve" intends to represent the following segments of the Eve population. Consider these the "planks" of the party.
Miners Industrialists Traders Small Corps Independent players High Sec PvE Casual Players Ambulation
Basically folk that often are discarded as "carebears" but make up a huge portion of the Eve population. A group that has not had representatio for a long time in the CSM.
Together we cannot be defeated!!
Issler Dainze CSM 7 candidate Member of the Rational Party of Eve
The point of Isslers most fixated on by the Goonswarm is Ambulation with comments like
Ladie Harlot wrote:Ka P'lah wrote:Good points, Pheusia. Personally, I'd like to see both Issler and Hans on the CSM - I think that would sure help balance the CSM some. You're right. Hans, though I disagree with his priorities, wants to improve Eve while Issler just wants more outfits for her toonie toon toon.
No were have I yet read where Issler has ever supported the over expensive clothes and Monocles in the Nex store. To quote Issler directly
Issler Dainze wrote:I'd just like to point out that I've never re-customized my characters and could care less about any new clothes, or sleave tats,hats, monocles, boots, space sandals or
whatever...
What's in the character creator is just fine with me.
So miners and fans of ambulation, remember this is the nonsense we face trying to make sure CCP will keep us in their plans.
So Laddy Marmot, keep up the lame space barbie talk, I enjoy the bumps.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.03.13 02:27:00 -
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Most noticeably is the stand for miners they really need proper representation. In a recent blog by CCP Sreegs he states "As you are all aware the company has gone through a lot of
changes in the recent months. Because of this there was a period of time where nobody had responsibility for handling the technology responsible for nuking botters."
Did the Chairman of CSM 6, The Mittani notice this...well that is unknown to be honest, but did he take any action. Well the answer is NO. This then leaves the question was this a simple
ommition or was it by design, either way the result was to allow bots to have months of economy destroying, profit making time.
The Mittani states on his CSM 7 page "The Crucible expansion reads like a laundry list of things that CSM6 fought for - an emphasis on iterative ship balance, Time Dilation, hybrid and
Gallente fixes, supercap nerfs, and assault frigates." This statement by it's self answers why the Goonswarm are using extortion and threats to get The Mittani to the CSM Chairman possition with any means possible. They want to fix things for
themselves, while they hide in their caves in 0.0 space with the majority of Goonswarm never having had contact with normal eve society. As point out by the Mittani
The Mittani wrote:"The experience of a new Goonswarm player is radically different from that of the EVE-born. They are attracted to EVE by the megathread in the MMO subforum of SA; when they install the game they are an extension of an existing community - most have friends already in Goonswarm that they know from other games. Rather than learning the basics alone in hisec, on their first day newbie goons podjump to deep nullsec. There, they are surrounded by their fellows, ushered into massive alliance warfleets, mentored by veteran players, and showered with isk and ships." source: http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/228886/page/2
I must once again point to a comment by Tebor Daehdoow for a way forward from these dirty politics used by Goonswarm. [quote = Tebor Daehdoow] I have been pushing CCP to reform the election mechanic since right after the last election, but they did not want to introduce too many changes this time around. I would like to see an open discussion with the community about this topic, culminating in changes for the next election.[/quote]
So in closing I must one again and still ask for the suspension of The Mittani's Candidicy for the CSM, until these claims can be properly investigated.
Frying Doom Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.03.13 02:28:00 -
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Our forums are not a public venue, they're privately owned and operated. There is no right to freedom of expression on them. The moderators and the owner of the forum are fully in their rights to do whatever they want to whoever they want whenever they want.
Again, if you didn't vote for The Mittani you deserve whatever is coming to you.
Regardless, you are just another player acting the part of a lunatic conspiracy nut for the purposes of your own entertainment and ours; for that I applaud you. You've even got the barely literate babble down perfectly. Might I recommend some use of colour and randomly changing font styles? |
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Talamant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.03.13 02:55:00 -
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Is anyone actually reading all what that guy is writing? Because **** all those letters. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.03.13 03:03:00 -
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Talamant wrote:Is anyone actually reading all what that guy is writing? Because **** all those letters.
Of course not. His posts are the Eve-Online equivalent of Infowars.com. |
Machine Delta
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 03:35:00 -
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First let me just say I dropped roles and am awaiting the 24h to quit corp. Usually I don't post here but this has just been too much! Change is needed within Goonswarm and the CSM now. It's pathetic. Karttoon did a better job as CEO and even he got banned after Mittani leaning on CCP after making CSM.
Yes I know this sounds bitter but its the truth. Goonswarm internally is a mess right now. Only by mittens stepping down will this situation improve. Unless he resigns there's little hope for the CSM or for this game. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
281
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Posted - 2012.03.13 03:39:00 -
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I mentioned offhand at the bookstore here at my University to another MerchI member that I was thinking of voting for Trebor, simply because he's given us RPG fans so much -- Wizardry, which inspired Dragon Quest... which then inspired Final Fantasy, which proves that there are unintended consequences to all good things; and AnimEIgo, which brought us Urusei Yatsura, one of the best anime in history.
Anyway, by the time I got home to my apartment, a process taking about 10 minutes, no more, no less, someone had put up a giant fatbee on my door, with the following scribed in a dark red fluid, possibly the blood of virgins, I cannot be sure:
"The Mittani Sends his Regards."
Upon tearing down the poster, I noticed underneath, in a slightly clear writing -- the tears of fat pubbies, no doubt -- an orate, Gothic script. "WE KNOW."
Upon falling backwards and voiding my bowls, I looked up and noticed no less than 3 people (and one squirrel in a ninja outfit, but I believe -- nay, pray -- that that was unrelated) staring at me as I went into my apartment, locked the door, double checked the deadbolt and barricaded the bathroom door, all without turning on any lights.
I then used my laptop to immediately vote for the CEO of Space, Mittani, and took out a second student loan to sign up 137 buddy accounts and pay for 1 month each so I could vote for him as many times as humanly possible.
Goons. VOTE MITTANI. Your life isn't worth a moment of insubordination. |
Sendo Jarix
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.03.13 04:03:00 -
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Wow, whoever is Trabbz main should be proud.
I don't think I've ever seen someone take such obvious bait and sperg out as much as this guy has. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.03.13 04:45:00 -
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Eve Radio needs to make a Coast to Coast AM show to host crazies like this and let them ramble their ideas out real-time - it'd be just about the best entertainment ever, like that Xenuria round-table but crazier and longer |
SirMille
Sigma Kid Protection Services Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 05:27:00 -
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I am the CEO of a so-called "pubbie" corporation in Goonswarm. While most in this game would probably call me a goonie, I'm not one of the goonies by their own definition as I nor any of my corp members have a Something Awful account.
On the goonfleet.net forum I and my corp membership are routinely harassed by The Mittani's underling goonies who call us all "bad poster" despite our best efforts to make long an informative posts that cover all the bases. About half my corp is read-only right now as a result of attempt to defend themselfs against being harassed.
It's not likely that my corp will remain in GSF for much longer after I make this post but I've been emboldened by the posts of other "pubbie" members of the alliance to bring certain fact to light.
Most non-goonie corps in the alliance are given space/outposts/tech moons based upon the participation of their membership and their size. My corp isn't really involved much in PvP operations and instead helps with logistics and production so we only hold a small number (3) of Tech moons and no space to really call our own despite the fact we produce the majority of the alliance's subcapital ships which we are forced to sell to goonies "at cost," leaving the tech as our sole source of income most of which goes into reimbursing my line member's ship losses fighting wars we don't usually support. Invading Branch was stupid and we've lost billions of isk keeping the alliance in ships and the following is the thanks we get for all our hard work.
A few weeks ago I and the other non-goonie corps got this evemail from The Mittani, I copied it from evegate so pardon the formating.
Quote: CSM7 Election Is Upon Us
From: The Mittani To: SirMille, (other non-goonie corp CEO names removed)
Greetings Pubbie CEOs,
We need more than just goons voting, therefore all pubbies in the alliance (and CFC Allaiances who will be getting a different evemail) are hereby REQUIRED to vote for me when the polls open. It would behouve you and your membership to post your support on the eve-o forums in my candidacy thread as well.
We will be auditing all pubbie corps after the election is over, anyone unable to provide proof that they voted for me via screenshots is to have their assets seized for the alliance and to be purged from your corp. If we find that the majority of your corp didn't vote for me, you can fully expect to lose any tech moons, systems, outposts, or even possibly getting your corp purged from the alliance without notice. Service Guarantees Citizenship.
Regards, The Mittani
I cannot keep quiet any longer. I told my corp membership to wait before voting and because of our likely imminent purging I will be having them evac their assets immediately and telling them to vote for anyone they want except The Mittani. Personally I am going to vote for Issler as he seems to be the best bet for those of us who do industry. |
Richter Enderas
Coronal Core Research Inc Elite Space Guild
23
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Posted - 2012.03.13 05:47:00 -
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kick gewns reset condi alamo vfk |
Kaleb Rysode
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.13 05:54:00 -
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SirMille wrote:I am the CEO of a so-called "pubbie" corporation in Goonswarm. While most in this game would probably call me a goonie, I'm not one of the goonies by their own definition as I nor any of my corp members have a Something Awful account. On the goonfleet.net forum I and my corp membership are routinely harassed by The Mittani's underling goonies who call us all "bad poster" despite our best efforts to make long an informative posts that cover all the bases. About half my corp is read-only right now as a result of attempt to defend themselfs against being harassed. It's not likely that my corp will remain in GSF for much longer after I make this post but I've been emboldened by the posts of other "pubbie" members of the alliance to bring certain fact to light. Most non-goonie corps in the alliance are given space/outposts/tech moons based upon the participation of their membership and their size. My corp isn't really involved much in PvP operations and instead helps with logistics and production so we only hold a small number (3) of Tech moons and no space to really call our own despite the fact we produce the majority of the alliance's subcapital ships which we are forced to sell to goonies "at cost," leaving the tech as our sole source of income most of which goes into reimbursing my line member's ship losses fighting wars we don't usually support. Invading Branch was stupid and we've lost billions of isk keeping the alliance in ships and the following is the thanks we get for all our hard work. A few weeks ago I and the other non-goonie corps got this evemail from The Mittani, I copied it from evegate so pardon the formating. Quote: CSM7 Election Is Upon Us
From: The Mittani To: SirMille, (other non-goonie corp CEO names removed)
Greetings Pubbie CEOs,
We need more than just goons voting, therefore all pubbies in the alliance (and CFC Allaiances who will be getting a different evemail) are hereby REQUIRED to vote for me when the polls open. It would behouve you and your membership to post your support on the eve-o forums in my candidacy thread as well.
We will be auditing all pubbie corps after the election is over, anyone unable to provide proof that they voted for me via screenshots is to have their assets seized for the alliance and to be purged from your corp. If we find that the majority of your corp didn't vote for me, you can fully expect to lose any tech moons, systems, outposts, or even possibly getting your corp purged from the alliance without notice. Service Guarantees Citizenship.
Regards, The Mittani
I cannot keep quiet any longer. I told my corp membership to wait before voting and because of our likely imminent purging I will be having them evac their assets immediately and telling them to vote for anyone they want except The Mittani. Personally I am going to vote for Issler as he seems to be the best bet for those of us who do industry.
You sir, are a driveling pubbie idiot and are completely screwed. Prepare to be commissared at the end of the election. |
SirMille
Sigma Kid Protection Services Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.13 06:02:00 -
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Kaleb Rysode wrote:
You sir, are a driveling pubbie idiot and are completely screwed. Prepare to be commissared at the end of the election.
Typicle goonie going into insult mode to defend his godking. |
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
193
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Posted - 2012.03.13 06:31:00 -
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OH GOD KONY 2012 / THE MITTANI 2012 LET THE WORLD KNOW!
One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
491
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Posted - 2012.03.13 06:32:00 -
[52] - Quote
Oh great.. Traitors coming out in the open. Say goodbye to your POSes in Deklein. Vote for The Mittani http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=438 |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
193
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Posted - 2012.03.13 06:43:00 -
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TOO LATE INTERNAL STRIFE AND DISSENT DEKLEIN BY FEB! One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
361
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Posted - 2012.03.13 07:47:00 -
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Extortion works great for the CSM "elections" and should be practiced as much as possible. Perhaps intimidating the noobs in New Citizens Q&A could bring in some more votes too. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
225
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Posted - 2012.03.13 07:49:00 -
[55] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:TOO LATE INTERNAL STRIFE AND DISSENT DEKLEIN BY FEB! Ahahaha, this is so great.
Wait, it's already march.
Service Guaranties Citizenship is the best line. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2390
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Posted - 2012.03.13 08:02:00 -
[56] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:So in closing I must one again and still ask for the suspension of The Mittani's Candidicy for the CSM, until these claims can be properly investigated.
Frying Doom
I ask for the suspension of Issler Dainze's candidacy for CSM due to statements that she made that may point towards direct involvement in RMT. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2390
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Posted - 2012.03.13 08:05:00 -
[57] - Quote
Quote:n++[ 2012.02.25 08:26:52 ] Andski > RMT is a problem in games n++[ 2012.02.25 08:26:57 ] Andski > and you know it n++[ 2012.02.25 08:27:16 ] Issler Dainze > only to folks that don't have RL $ :P "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.03.13 08:17:00 -
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Andski
I will not comment on matters of a clear violation of the EULA and TOS. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2390
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Posted - 2012.03.13 08:35:00 -
[59] - Quote
how do you feel about openly supporting a candidate who supports RMT?
or do you support RMT yourself "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
261
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Posted - 2012.03.13 08:35:00 -
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All this, troll or not, over a video-game. In irae, veritas. |
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