Best way to deal with this is to continue sitting in null running your bots full time while keeping everyone focused on incursions.

Hold on...y'all are already doing that.

Carry on.

Mr Epeen

10 plus days old? Dead and buried. Ten days is forever in bot world as you well know. There is a whole new generation of Bee bots dispersing through 0.0 as we speak. This too, you well know.

What are you trying to distract everyone from? No need to answer. We already know.

Mr Epeen

Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally.

How much ISK was paid out over the same time period in insurance?
How does that amount compare with the other sources of income we are discussing?

Ship destruction should be an ISK sink, not an ISK faucet.

I realize the implications and issues that would have to be dealt with, but frankly Insurance either needs to go or be completely reworked.

This would bring balance to the force.

Sorry to quote it again but some here just don't get the point. Incursions are not the issue. And yes they have ALOT more data than you considering they WORK for the company.

Cant figure the issues? It says it RIGHT there. Incursions arent the problem.

You and the others screaming about incursions have lost. You have had a CCP member say without beating around the bush that Incursions aren't the big bad inflation monster I see so many posts make it out as. You know the fake numbers on incursion inflation y'all used to get the uninformed screaming in topics even tho they have never run an incursion.

Now instead of beating a dead horse how about trying to provide real solutions such as ways to encourage people to report the blue bots that ARE generating massive inflation.

I did not see that one. Good catch!

Someone needs to ask him to break out bounties by security for feb.

Real numbers Tippia? So your "real" numbers beat CCPs even tho they have a market expert with access to their data.

Epic and I mean epic fail!

And Andski I know about the bot ban wave but it is not enough by far. And it dosen't help that blues are "encouraged" not to report blue bots with promises of sharing and ship replacement programs.

And I have called time and again for hisec bots to be reported tho I highly doubt they beat the numbers in nullsec. Report them anyway because the more bots banned the better!

What it does show as well as even though low and nullsec incursions have a very high payout and can be done with low cost ships they don't get done. Why is that? They supposedly have higher pay than anoms? right?

That they are balanced minus the issue of AFK cloaking which I already proposed a solution for. With Blitzing VGs are on a bit of the high side but I am not too worried about that because I know eventually the blitzing part will be changed. HQs and As could use a buff tho.

You see I do not like the idea of bounty nerf. I think it will legitimately harm active players and yes greatly change the balance to favor hisec again. Instead I'm going to call as much as I can for action on botting.

You are a goon right? Rumor is the norm is "Don't $*&^ over other goons" Help prevent this madness by reporting the blue bots you see. As my opinion seems to mean little if they are bent on nerfing bounties eh?

Top level income for incursions is less than 100m/hour in optimal conditions. There is already noticable competition in sites to make ISK, and it's likely competition will increase as more people find it's not as hard/risky as it used to be. It's still not 100% safe though, I have seen faction battleships explode recently.

Not empty quoting another clueless post about "I don't understand that a new income source, however much lacking balance by a new isk-sink, is not the problem unless it is, itself, injecting greater amounts of ISK than it should." Whether it is the straw that breaks the camels back is irrelevant.

The straw that breaks the camels back: Incursions
The anvil already on the camel's back: Bounties.

Which one is the root of the problem?

Shall I assume that's from your long experience as a member of a hisec shiny fleet, or are you pulling that fact from your rectum?

Top level income for incursions is less than It wasn't what I was asking, but you did indirectly answer it. No, you do not participate in incursions, and they in fact are relatively lessening your income a little bit, but you are quite certain from an unbiased standpoint that they need nerfed. Coincidentally, so does Scissors.

The only thing coming out of nullsec of late is 'nerf highsec, nerf wormholes, lowsec is fine, buff nullsec' with little regard to the fact that you need income to support a PvP lifestyle, and if you nerf highsec enough, all you're going to accomplish is that the only way to get out of highsec is in the arms of an entrenched and bloated nullsec coalition.

Yep you have no clue about HQs either in my opinion.

You can't Blitz them. Atleast nowhere near what you can with a VG.

I'm confused. How is one risk free and the other is not?

people who take near-no-risk at all

Some goons you mean. Mit likes Incursions.

If you were the best posters about it, there would he no confusion on your motivation for the Incursion and other nerfs. But please, keep up the acronyms. They make you look intelligent and not lazy... right?

I would prefer not to see NPC bounties nerfed. If anything, just make NPC rats tougher to kill, so only the people with the best equipment and skills can kill them as easily as they can now.

When I see a Pith Usurper or a Core Lord Admiral, I expect it to put up a bit more of a fight

Says the K.com poster. Your move chump.

And all ten are really terrible mate. Tell you what. I will stop making run of your terrible posting if you actually go back to the original topic here.

You, Goons and all other null players are more than capable of making high sec Incursions risky. How come you don't?