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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.19 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps And your sucky tempest shoots out to what, 40 km ?
lol wut?
with what? ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
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Posted - 2008.06.19 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Trojanman190 Edited by: Trojanman190 on 19/06/2008 17:58:16
Btw wtf are you doing not fitting dual reps?
Because in close combat buffer > reps
period.
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Posted - 2008.06.19 21:41:00 -
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Tempest's problems right now are
Longrange Lack of damage in long range combat to everything else in same cost class Lack of staying power in long range fights, you can buffer tank everything else much beter.
Shortrange Lack of DPS Lack of slots/HP for passive tank sup par state of active tankking with 6 lows or 5 meds. Speed and mass is not small enought to nanofit, also, large AC's + nanos = FAILBOAT!!!
Tempest's closest ship in characteristics is megathron, and it outclasses tempest in every way right now. There is absolutly no reason to use Tempest over megatron in any situation.
Also, apoch outpreforms tempest in longrange and now, in short range wepons, WTF?
Only thing tempest beats is raven in +150km fleet fight. ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.20 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 20/06/2008 22:05:36
TEMPEST IS FINE, ITS OK THAT AMARR TIRE 1 BS OUTDAMAGE EVERY MINMATAR SHIP, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO OUT-PASSIVE TANK MINMATAR TIRE 1 AND 2 BS'S WITH 50M PRICETAG.
LETS NOT FORGET THAT, THAT SAID BS IS NEXST FASTES BS IN GAME AND ALL, ALSO SURPASSES MINNIE COUNTERPART IN MOST CHARACTERISTICS.
MINMATAR IS FINE.
JUST LIKE MY WRITING.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 09:52:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 21/06/2008 09:52:56 tempest itself, got no problems as far fitting goes.
Its just, there isint anything reasonable to fit on tempest at the moment :/
Check out my thread from first page OP like, its abaut the 1400mm's ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Jhon everyone speack about arty 1400mm but i just want to underline that,in my opinion, the problem is endeed in all the large projectile class gun
anyways good thread siddy i higlighted it in main page
Well, autocannons blow hard right now.
Tempest cant do the passivetank + closerange fit nearly as well as Armageddon or megathron.
And armageddon 50m isk > megatron 80m isk > tempest 80m isk
The current flavor of the month in close range combat is 2 or 3 plates, damagecontrol, eanm's and damagemods. This fitting will win everytime against similar active repping fit. Because current HP buffer gain equals for 2 TO 3 FRACKING MINUTES OF NON-STOP ACTIVE REPPING .
Making active repping on ships without bonus to it useless in PVP, going from Bad in 1v1 to USELESS in 5¦man gang engadements.
And if i bring spidertankking in here, well lets not.
So the TL;DR versions.
Tempest cant tank, or gankk in closerange enought to justify its use in close range. Speed bonus is laregly neglated by current overpowered webbers, designed to countter nanofaggotory.
And its longrange weponsystems that were FINE before HP boost, lost its alpha to abaddon and bacame useless due to low DPS ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion Minmattar BSs are fine tbh, its the HACs, Reckons, frigs, BCs, Commands that need moar help /me runs away from the Minnie whiner squad.
Seriously. Minmattar are the pvp ships. They make you use your brian and if you do they are vastly superior to any other race's same class for pvp. However a couple of years ago minnie community leaders (LOL) decided that using guile on the forums was more sueful than using it in game.
RESULT> The norm is in evry class the Minnie choise outspeeds, out manoeuvres out locks, out warps, out ranges and generally POWNs and does 0.5 average less DPS than the uberest Gallente or Ammar equivalent (that needs to submit a triplicate application to turn and has 3 week waiting periods to lock)
I use all 4 races nowdays so this just amuses me but ... it amuses me a lot :D
40 facons!!!!! ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Setana Manoro [ So ... you basically want to get Machariels without built-in speed bonus, tracking bonus and HP bonus for 85m isk ?
Good point, machariels need boost too. ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom
Originally by: Jalif
Originally by: Thercon Jair
I do think the whole balance for the minmatar race was screwed up in all the recent patches.
Q.F.T.
I second that....
QFT+++
espesialy when that balance only took into account nanaofagotory of small ships and survavability in 100+ manblobs.
The minmatar gurelia warfere of small BS gangs were reduced to nanofagottory and made any other ship we might want to use obsoleat for its intendet role.
QFT+^3 ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.21 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rastigan
Originally by: Veryez
You want to fix the Tempest and projectiles in general? Nerf passive tanks. Reduce the size of plates and extenders back to their original numbers and stacking nerf plates and rigs - you can even leave the ship HP's the same. Make ships active tank again and bingo capless weapons become valuable again. Otherwise increase the DPS of both AC's and Artillery by around 40% (not the useless 10% they gave us).
Why dont they just nerf the EM/EXPLOSIVE resists of armor and shields ? Oh wait they did.
So the Tempest is subpar ? Now you know how it feels for the other races T2 ships..
like ishtar, zelot, falcon and others?
no wonder you dined in nol so much ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin Darklighter
Seriously, this is a bad idea. If you just boost tanking in general then no one battleship will be able to kill another battleship solo assuming both pilots are worth a crap. Currently in EVE active tanking is strong enough that two very good BS pilots will shoot each other until the loser runs out of cap charges.
Missconception.
Active tanking on a ships that got bonus will help you float 1 vs 1.
active tanking W/o bonuses + energy wepons = fail
Active tanking + torps/drones = chanse
Activetanking + projectiles = fail
most current passive BS fits boast +1000 DPS, thats more than enought to render Vanilla 5 module armor tank. And in many cases, active shield tanks too, atlho shield tankkers can boost DPS via fre lows and stand a chanse.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.24 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Jhon
Originally by: Siddy
Originally by: Gavin Darklighter
Seriously, this is a bad idea. If you just boost tanking in general then no one battleship will be able to kill another battleship solo assuming both pilots are worth a crap. Currently in EVE active tanking is strong enough that two very good BS pilots will shoot each other until the loser runs out of cap charges.
Missconception.
Active tanking on a ships that got bonus will help you float 1 vs 1.
active tanking W/o bonuses + energy wepons = fail
Active tanking + torps/drones = chanse
Activetanking + projectiles = fail
most current passive BS fits boast +1000 DPS, thats more than enought to render Vanilla 5 module armor tank. And in many cases, active shield tanks too, atlho shield tankkers can boost DPS via fre lows and stand a chanse.
ok soaccording to you active tank on a tempest will allways result a failure
So why not ask for a 7th low slot? whit 7 low a buffertank is more tan possible.... isn't it?
Against opponen worth its salt? yes.
Every half decent battleship out damage your repair rate on recisted armor by good 200 DPS. that means you got abaut 1 minute time to live.
While your pitiful 800 DPS autocannon fiasko will need good 2 to 3 minute to work on most passive tanks. ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.26 01:09:00 -
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t2 ammo
/end of that topick ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.26 15:19:00 -
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Dont forget, that tempest needs 3 sensor booster to target to 180 to 190
while all others, yes, even amarr, can do that with 2. ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.26 15:27:00 -
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i flown 2 and half year with BoB t2 Blob, before that in m0o faction/t2/haxspl0it blob and before that in FA and before that in SA blobs :D
Ive prolly seen them all. ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.26 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 26/06/2008 20:19:46
Originally by: Boz Well
Originally by: Juliette DuBois Might be crazy idea but giving Tempest +4000 extra base grid would help it quite a bit since it¦s bit short on slots now that scripts were introduced. Basically giving it one more free low slot (no RCU required) for extra tracking enhancer.
Hm... could fit bigger lasers then.. I like it!
Maybe cap and RoF bonuses for lasers while we are at it? ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |
Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.27 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 27/06/2008 18:28:52 Remove large projectiles from game, replase them with lasers and cover it all with Roleplaying that Minmatars switched to lasers on the bigger ships due to metals cant the the stress caused bla bla bla
EVERYONE HAPPY, oh and replace large wepons skills with lasers or something.
And devs dont need to use brains either.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.27 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon Maelstrom can deal near 1k dps (1k with implants) with falloff of 46 km. Stop complaining on that. At 15 km It would still have 95% of its damage. With barrage is OK, with Hail is ok. With EMP is NOT ok. That leads to.. its nto AC problem, its EMP problem
The tempest on other businnes. its damage is total fail. It woudl need 125 drone bay to compensate that.
I will own your mael with mega at close.
My geddon will *****your mael at 45 km and close.
My raven will do the same at max torp range, as prolly will rokh with null.
GG
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.06.29 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 29/06/2008 11:13:20 The real idea of autcannons is that you realy dont need to reload them cause you can chainlink all ammo in your hold...
that is in real world
But they are prone to jamming
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.02 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jalif
Originally by: To mare
EVE has evolved during this 5 years but while the other races had the way to adapt, a good chunk of the minmatar line up has been stuck in the past. the other races copied our strong points and they become good as us and sometime even better (see nano cruiser/frigate), but minmatar dont have a way to copy other races style(big tank, big gank) and be effective with that.
atm when you undock with something minmatar bigger than a BC its like if you go to a actual war with a sword (or a crossbow if you are lucky) VS people with guns.
QFT....
nonot realy, minmatars had they share of love.
The 800mm AC buff, 1400mm buffs and other gimmics.
Thing is, the were few major nerfs in sucsessions (Noss nerf, HP buff, stacknerf) that meganerffed the Minmatar Big ships. While the smaller class culd adapt due to speedtankking and benefits of new HP buffer, big ships were left with virtualy nothing.
And dont bring typhoon here, it dont use any native minmatar playstyle or wepons. Its abbomination mix of raven and nossdomi.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.02 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: To mare typhoon is the only minmatar BS who has been able to adapt to the current flow of the game. indeed is the only one who dont sux much. tempest and maelstrom needs love, give some love to projectile and at the same time you give some love to those 2 ships.
Typhoon is not bound to use minmatar primary weponsystem.
it uses drones, torps and have lots of hull.
Its perfeckt nanofa***y ship
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.02 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 02/07/2008 18:51:05 i know, add minmatar battleships natural WCS
it dont penalize it anway.
Typhoon gets +1
Tempest gets +2
maelstrom gts +3
Now we can use em for soloroaming and get out if risked being gankked.
problem solved, everyone happy, burn eden starts train minmatar.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 02/07/2008 20:33:22 This thread smells of cheese and mold
everyone are repeating same ol things...
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.04 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 04/07/2008 08:26:25
AC's range and fallloff needs to scale properly.
AC's damage needs to be eiter buffed 15% or you need to be able to chainlink ammo so you whuld not need to reload as long you got ammo in your hold.
My proposal to increase alpha on 1400mms shuld be enought to make them usable atleast in some situations, (regardles liang's ravings abaut fleets, nub he is) while now 1400mms are uselees in all situations.
1200mm's shuld be lookd at and brought close to be inline with othr race's secondary longrange wepon. So minmatars culd chose like amarr and gallente. Megabeams and 350mm's far surpass 1200mms.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.04 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: kyrv Does anyone care to mention tempest has only 6 guns slots?
realy?
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:31:00 -
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Maelstrom works beter with pulses than AC's
just FYI.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.04 17:56:00 -
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i still think the 1+ WCS/level is best bonus for tempest....
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.04 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Gavin Darklighter
Originally by: Siddy Maelstrom works beter with pulses than AC's
just FYI.
Care to fight my auto-mael with your pulse-mael?
Sadly, I think he might actually win. The Maelstrom is weak to EM damage (unless you specifically harden for it). Even then you won't have enough HP to win the day.
How sad.
-Liang
Actualy, its not unusual that lasers outpreformed projectiles on minmatar ships back in the days.
Its just no one used em due to cap penalties, that is, when you actualy did something in tempest with cap.
but now
train lasers
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.05 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin Darklighter I'm serious, I'll fight your laser maelstrom.
Are you challenging my e-peen, mr whos-corp-name-is-spelled-all-in-capitalized-letters?
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.05 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: DoctorBautz you got 5 mids on the tempest and the cpu to use them. go figure.....
HAHA IM USING INTERNETS!
now give us ECM bonuses pl0x
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.05 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 05/07/2008 18:43:00 see, i get all the best ideas for fixing prjectiles, like chainlinkking.
CCP shuld hire me and stuf
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.06 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: AstroPhobic
While chainlinking is a good start, autos need an optimal, and artillery STILL needs something. Period. I'm kind of stuck on my idea of autocannons with an optimal, and I haven't seen a better one yet, IMO. Artillery I'm not sure on.
The more I think about it, the more I want a 4x increase on alpha strike. I mean, do you have any idea how cool it would be to have a pair of Tempests sitting on a gate alphastriking mission ships?!
-Liang
WIN!
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:19:00 -
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HE KEPT JUST KEPT TALKING IN ONE LONG INCREADEBLE UNBROKEN SENTENCE MOVING FROM TO TOPIC TO TOPIC SO THAT NO ONE HAD CHANSE TO INTERUP HIM, WAS REALY QUITE HYPNOTIC...
BTW
Why does
Megapulse lasers
out damage
AC's
on
Minmatar battleships
on all ranges
over 4 km?
Here's to the finest ships in EVE fleet...
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:26:00 -
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You wana know what else is vertical almost all the time these days...
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.08 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: To mare Edited by: To mare on 08/07/2008 08:08:02 if using no cap is such a great advantage can you tell me for what you need all the cap you dont use shooting? the advantage of using no cap to fire is nothing vs the abilty to damage your enemy.
actually i never heard a gallente pilot whining because hybrid use too much cap.
Gallente and amarr used to WHINE hardcore before this passivetankking capinjector age.
And hybrid users used to whine the most.
Back then outcapping your opponen with tempest was actualy viable option, but now?
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.08 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 08/07/2008 13:50:01
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
BECAUSE! LASER have BUILT in DAMAGE bonus!
you are stupid
you are realy stupid
you cant read
you are stupid.
i asked
WHY does lasers out damage wepons that hase bonuses on the specific ship.
edit: PS: armageddon dont have damagebonus? Abaddon dont have damage bonus? Even apoch get indirect damagebonus due to optimal at longer ranges...
So...are you blind? Maybe, you live under rock?
or just stupid?
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.08 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: To mare
also i love siddy sometimes
Why not all the times
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 08/07/2008 16:41:15 Edited by: Siddy on 08/07/2008 16:40:35
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Siddy Edited by: Siddy on 08/07/2008 13:50:01
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
BECAUSE! LASER have BUILT in DAMAGE bonus!
you are stupid
you are realy stupid
you cant read
you are stupid.
i asked
WHY does lasers out damage wepons that hase bonuses on the specific ship.
edit: PS: armageddon dont have damagebonus? Abaddon dont have damage bonus? Even apoch get indirect damagebonus due to optimal at longer ranges...
So...are you blind? Maybe, you live under rock?
or just stupid?
I might be stupid, sure, but for sure you are even more. how about READ WHAT DEVs WROTE on all the ammar threads? Lasers HAVE IMBUED DAMAGE BONUS. Look APOC look PROPHECY! How about just using BRAINS and checking witch is the bonus that the ships had BEFORE the second bonus was added to all ships? HINT CAP USAGE , DAMAGE, ROF.. just try to guess who had witch one.
Stupid stuff commign from people that were not even in game at time when the balance between guns was implemented. How many Tempest did you ever saw using mega pusles? How apout apocs using ACannons? HINT APocs with autocannons WERE VERY VERY common before the last apoc boost.
Now SHUT up, dig a hole and put your brain in the hole and the earth from the hoel in your head, maybe then you can become usefull on this thread.
i used megapulses on my tempest before latest projectile boost...
now i dont use tempest/minmatar BS's at all, your point?
PS: you are still stupid and cant read.
I asked 'WHY does lasers out damage wepons that hase bonuses on the specific ship. '
You have not anwsere it yet. Have you?
Using pulses on non amarr ship is now viable cause cap is worthlss for anything else.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.08 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 08/07/2008 23:33:17
Originally by: Trojanman190
I disagree with that comparison, since you are comparing a forcibly active tanked shield tanker with a passive tanked, 8 low slot ship. Not to mention the tier differences.
Tempest will not get a better armor tank but will come somewhat close and, with the specified changes, coming in 50 dps short would be fantastic for a 0 cap use ship. In that situation doing slightly less dps while maintaining its RR for fewer cap boosters can be seen as a plus, at least in my opinion.
The main problem with your comparison is that the maelstrom is fail for the way eve currently exists. The active shield tank just isn't all that useful.
Sancta simplicitas, ignoramus
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.09 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Boz Well
Originally by: Kagura Nikon I might be stupid, sure, but for sure you are even more. how about READ WHAT DEVs WROTE on all the ammar threads? Lasers HAVE IMBUED DAMAGE BONUS. Look APOC look PROPHECY! How about just using BRAINS and checking witch is the bonus that the ships had BEFORE the second bonus was added to all ships? HINT CAP USAGE , DAMAGE, ROF.. just try to guess who had witch one.
Stupid stuff commign from people that were not even in game at time when the balance between guns was implemented. How many Tempest did you ever saw using mega pusles? How apout apocs using ACannons? HINT APocs with autocannons WERE VERY VERY common before the last apoc boost.
Now SHUT up, dig a hole and put your brain in the hole and the earth from the hoel in your head, maybe then you can become usefull on this thread.
undefined Throwing caps in your post and flaming doesn't really do much except make you look like an ass, at least to me, haha. You say look at Apoc.. well, that's the ONLY BS that doesn't have a pure damage bonus, and it has optimal which outside of close ranges acts as a damage bonus. Prophecy? Read the title of the damn thread. This is about large projectiles. Unless you're fitting a single Tachyon on your Prophecy, it's irrelevant. And fitting autocannons on Apoc.. even if AC's got a slight boost, you'd have to be an idiot to fit AC's on your Apoc now that Amarr have been buffed. To be honest, you're shooting yourself in the foot by saying lasers have a built in damage bonus to justify their ships not having damage bonuses, because in fact their battleships DO all have damage bonuses of some kind. Perhaps that's why their so uber?
I will give you one thing though Kagura. You're entertaining.
Quote: I might be stupid
Quote: just using BRAINS and checking witch is the bonus
Quote: I might be stupid
Quote: try to guess who had witch one
Quote: I might be stupid
Quote: Now SHUT up, dig a hole and put your brain in the hole and the earth from the hoel in your head, maybe then you can become usefull on this thread.
Go re read the posting and CHECK who insulted who first. Then you will notice who is the dumb one.
The prophecy is stil valid because the guns balance was made thinking on ALL THE SHIPS levels. Lasers were created to have more damage because on GENERAL ammar ships were created without as much damage bonus as other races. Devs are not re-balancing everything for each class of ships. They created the concepts of how AC, pulses and Blasters shoudl be based on how they planed the ships and implemented them for all 4 Scale sizes. You cannot ignore this simple issue.
They HAD tonns of disadvantages
Last amarr pach removed rest of them.
kthxbai
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Posted - 2008.07.09 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: To mare
Originally by: Shinta Kobi I just wish artillery wasn't so subpar to everything else. AC's do ok, but arty's just seem to(for the lack of a better term)suck.
ACs are ok? ok in what?
didint you readthe memo?
They aperantly dont take cap, uh huh.
a huge minmatard advantage!!!!11
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Siddy
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Posted - 2008.07.10 13:58:00 -
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i just love all the people that come here, brainfartting abaut "calpless", low fitting (on low PG matar ships) reqs and "falloff wepons"
I love it even more when they say that thats ok and balanced
Then again, i got 5 years of SP under my belt, i can swap any BS i want and fly it with good SP.
Its the younger matari players that get the sharp end of the stick, haa haa.
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Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.10 14:27:00 -
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go away kagura, you fool no one.
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.13 12:33:00 -
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I W00NT MUUR ALPAAAAA!!
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.17 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Trojanman190 Meh this thread is pretty much dead
Dude, projectiles are uber because they don't use cap, you can run 3 reppers at the same time and i cantt' do that becaus of hi cap use on my lazers so lazers suck boost lazers because autocannons are awesome
what this man/girl said
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.18 17:13:00 -
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There is nothing wrong with Tempest.
Tempest is perfetly balanced, "lots of free utility slot", ship. Tempest suffers from no cap problems what so ever. Double damage bonuses are nber.
Stop spreading your dirty imperial lies, Tempest is fine!
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.21 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Trojanman190
I dunno. Lasers don't do a shitton of damage at long range cuz they have high falloff...
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THAT WAY
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:05:00 -
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oh...
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.23 16:52:00 -
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let this thread die allredy :(
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.23 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 23/07/2008 17:18:33 no seriosly, no one is coming with anything good or useful since page 20.
your reposting stuff and brainfarts to keep thread alive, that we all know got no hope of getting attention in near year or so.
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.25 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic Edited by: AstroPhobic on 25/07/2008 14:56:47
Originally by: To mare
stop thinking at minmatar as a support killer
And this... this is not good.
Because that's what minmatar do. Take a look at our ships.
Vagabond.. Rapier.. Huginn.. Stabber. All excel at taking out smaller ships. To Mare, any way you cut it, we are not going to do more damage, and we're not going to tank better. You need to stop thinking of minmatar as a BS killer. We're simply not a same-class killing race.
Branko's on the right track. I truly, truly love my optimal idea, but I'm truly truly biased. We need more range, and falloff gets messy. What's wrong with being good at killing everything smaller than you? No we won't be the best at BS v BS combat, but we won't suck like we did before. We'll actually have a place in the BS spectrum.
I hate to say it, but if you expect to out-tank or out-damage your opponents, maybe you trained the wrong race.
Shenanigans, my Naglafar is not good BS killer!
i call BS!
Fix Artys!
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Siddy
Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 31/07/2008 19:09:02 Devs are fully awear of this, thy dont see this as top or even near any priority list since we got 3 workking rances.
train amarr
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Siddy
Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 31/07/2008 19:25:19
Originally by: Transmaniacon
Originally by: Siddy Edited by: Siddy on 31/07/2008 19:09:02 Devs are fully awear of this, thy dont see this as top or even near any priority list since we got 3 workking rances.
train amarr
lol, Devs got it 75% right, that's passing, good enough right...?
well, usualy it was 25% of the rases were playable.
Like when we had gankkageddons...
so i guess its a progress
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Siddy
Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.12 17:39:00 -
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Why is this thread still alive?
I told you, train amarr.
When EVE becomes oversaturated with amarr/caldari, maybe devs wills see they error... maybe.
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