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HadHaFangs
The Collective
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Posted - 2008.06.20 05:09:00 -
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Having recently upgraded my pc security to Zone Alarm internet security suite, last night when i opened eve, a warning message popped up from zone alarm warning me that CCP EXEfile is trying to monitor mouse movements, keystrokes on my computer. I will provide a screenshot later today, but can someone from CCP please explain whats happening as it is very worrying that a potential key logging attempt is being made by CCP, as this violates my personal information and security.
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HadHaFangs
The Collective
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Posted - 2008.06.20 05:15:00 -
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really, now. seeing as i've been running eve with zone alarm for over a month this is the first time that this warning has ever come up.
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HadHaFangs
The Collective
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Posted - 2008.06.20 05:48:00 -
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get your finger out your ***
"recently" doesnt necessarily mean with in the last day.my time frame has no discrepansies, stop looking for faults and lets deal with the issue at hand.
firstly, this is not the only online game i play, and some of which get updated a hell
of a lot more often than eve, during which at no point has ZA moaned about the programe having being changed. But to answer your question, there was no change that took place on my machine, as i also declined the optional patch that was released. neither was ZA updated within the last 24 hrs.
The fact of the matter is that, there was suspicious code within the eve client that generated an alarm. this alarm needs to be addressed.
so according to you, it should just be ignored, so then whoever develops a game is in the perfect position to monitor whatever they like, as their software is already on your computer.
internet banking is just a concern raised by one individual, there are lots of other potential personal security risks that can arise from this.
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HadHaFangs
The Collective
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Posted - 2008.06.20 06:30:00 -
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Well let me put it this way, the day before. eve was running fine, no alerts from ZA at all. yesterday, after the patch was released (which i never applied), ZA started complaining about the exe attempting to monitor mouse movements and log keystrokes.
so during the space of 24hrs, that is the only difference that i can see from one day to the next.
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HadHaFangs
The Collective
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Posted - 2008.06.20 06:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Victor Valka
Duh.
Of course and application will monitor your mouse and keyboard. Or rather, it will listen to the kernel (through WinAPI in case of Windows OS).
Suggestion: Ditch Zone Alarm.
wow, the smart***'s just keep on crawling out the woodwork.. read the entire thread before you decide to impart your pearls of wisdom, or lack there of.
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HadHaFangs
The Collective
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Posted - 2008.06.20 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Neddy Fox
Originally by: TARG AK
It is called a false positive.
eve.exe is not a key logger, zonealarm is wrong. ZA defaults are not good for Internet gaming. Ditch ZA and buy a good router with a firewall and use good anti-virus software that is updated all the time and you will be fine.
Don't download crap and stay away from non trusted sites, common sense is your best friend on the Internet.
This.
Same as programs like Radmin (which I use to monitor my gameservers), which gets flagged and deleted repeatedly by all kinds of carebear anti-virus programs, which will delete it it even when it's set to "ignore".
False positives do happen.
* CCP puts themself to the grave if they even tried to do this, so they don't. They're not stupid.
* You should ditch ZA because it's a friggin annoyance.
Radmin will get flagged by any anti-virus as it is classed as a backdoor. I know as i use it myself to remote to my branches all over the country to provide support. The fact of the matter still remains that this alert was a new alert that, and someone else has now reported the same problem, so it is not isolated to my computer. I did not at any stage say ccp is key logging, i raised a concern as now more than once case has been reported of "potential key logging". read first post again.
CCP needs to investigate as to what in their code has now all of a sudden generated a suspicious alarm that got flagged by one of the better firewall products on the market. I would rather use something like ZA and deal with the normal day to day issues of the security system asking me questions, atleast i know my computer is safe.
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HadHaFangs
The Collective
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Posted - 2008.06.20 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Braaage
One word - macroers
that is a very plausible argument. but if they are trying an attempt to identify macroers, then they are going about it in the wrong way, as they will be compromising every persons security in an attempt to do it in this manner.
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HadHaFangs
The Collective
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Posted - 2008.06.20 08:50:00 -
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ooohh they have a cool robot on the cover, i guess thats why you bought it.
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HadHaFangs
The Collective
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Posted - 2008.06.20 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: My Julutschka
Edited by: My Julutschka on 20/06/2008 08:54:28
As stated above, perhaps they implemented a small program, that scans your reg for other programs running the same time with EVE. Reminds me a bit of warden, which is the WoW scanning prog, to detect and ban botusers. Imho it would 100% logical to implement it, without having a big news article about it.
how can you implement something to scan someones machine under pure suspicion, and without informing your client base that in order to improve the community you are implementing such measures ??? that is a massive invasion of privacy (which is not existent nowadays) The only thing that CCP needs to know from me or my machine, is that there is a connection from the eve client to their servers, and that they get paid for it. full stop. if you want to get rid of macroers, increase your brain power and think creatively of ways of changing game mechanics to prevent these things from happening. its not rocket science, throw it out to the public, but if you are trying to scan or log someones activity with them unknowingly allowing it to happen, and it takes the likes of a more advanced security measure to pick it up, then it needs to be addressed.
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