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Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.22 11:50:00 - [1] Originally by: Italian Wedding Some people just can't effin read so I am going to put it in caps, bold, underlined, and italicized. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE SMALL 5 MAN ROAMING GANGS ANYMORE - IT'S ABOUT THE 100+ MAN NANO FLEETS. SPEED HAS BECOME A MAJOR PROBLEM IN EVE AND NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED WHEN THE ONLY COUNTER IS MORE NANO SHIPS. I think that about covers that. Where are these common (key word there) 100 man nano gangs? I saw tri field a few, AAA as well. Commonly? No. Also, simple question - and I'm actually not trolling for once - who would in a straight fight (lag inclusive) 100 man bs fleet w/support or 100 nanorecon/hacs w/ limited support (only what ships can keep up with them.) There is no nano problem, in laggy fleet fights it's just silly to bring a polycarbed vaga rather than your insurable buffer tanked gank bs.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.23 10:40:00 - [2] No one has addressed my major points, with one exception: requiring ships of the variety you are trying to kill is a bit much, I will admit. (you shouldn't need to nanocruisers to kill other nanocruisers.) Requiring a few frigates is, however, quite reasonable. People arguing that nanoships are cap injected obviously don't fly one. Sacrileges are the exception - it is very hard to carry that many charges in 95% of the others. Curse's now fit med/large batteries for long term survivability. Lets assume that all nanoships cap inject for the sake of argument. 2 heavy neuts - 1 from 2 battleships or 2 from 1 (and ravens can easily fit 2) wills till shut one down. I'm not arguing against the "scripting" of webs or other tweaks to the speed system, however nanoships as they are are fine. There is no problem. Get better FC's if you keep getting murdered to them. Hit me up in game ^^, I'll give you a few tips. I also mean nothing personal by disagreeing with you. I simply believe that ships that are expensive to purchase, uninsurable, require months of skill training, and a very VERY good pilot should be good. Heavy neuts, mimtar recons, interceptors, and webifiers are all viable counters. Have you also noted that none of them do tremendous amounts of dps? I urge you to stop stubbornly saying "nerf" and honestly think about it.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.23 11:55:00 - [3] Originally by: Italian Wedding I urge you to give me the name of an interceptor (I will train every skill to 5 and spend 20bil isk for this said ceptor) that can mwd into a group of 50 nanohacs and survive long enough to even lock something. Even if it is being remote repped, it doesn't have the HP buffer to survive alpha's. Highlighted the ridiculous part. Give me a realistic scenario and we can work from there.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.24 04:33:00 - [4] Originally by: Freakdevil I really dont see what the problem with Nano is. Survivability is a fair tactic. Ever see a Vaga webbed? It aint pretty. Ever see a Vaga running like a girl while being sniped by Battleships? It aint pretty... Flip side is they allow tactics that are impressive in the right hands. They provide adventure for a steep price. Nano Vaga or Ishtar = 200M+ (with rigs). Thats nothing to sneeze at. They allow people to go out and pew pew more often. Thats a good thing. Are they overpowered? That depends on how you define overpowered. A sole Vaga will kill a ceptor easily. But thats 200M vs 20M. Now you take a Kitsune, Hyena and Crow vs Vaga. Unless that Vaga runs or jumps, he will likely die. Thats 200M vs 120M. I dont see a problem. There isn't any nano problem. There is however a whining problem all over eve - and people need to stuff it.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.24 11:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Alpha Prime I don't care how you setup your ship, how many bilions in implants you've got in your head. No ship not specifically build for speed should NOT got past 5km/s. Interceptors, yes. No cruiser, not even**abonds. And if some people say that**abonds are build for speed, well then decrease the speed of all other ships so that fagabonds still moves faster then most ships, but still not faster then a regular interceptor. I am shocked a person in bob could be so wrong about game mechanics. How the hell did you get in?

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