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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 11:47:00 -
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Loving this. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2394
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:02:00 -
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Gheyna wrote:scanres to 5, maybe 10-15. it will take like 5 min to lock a pos
Titans do not fit sensor boosters no siree "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2397
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:14:00 -
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Mike712 wrote:Courthouse wrote:Mike712 wrote:So goons fly blobs of 2 LSE perma MWDing drakes(read massive sig, in fact as big as a carrier) against titans for 2 months to make them look OP, then titans get nerfed.
Good job goons/mittens now you should have the upper hand against a foe who you greatly outnumber.... Counterpoint: You're from battleclinic and thus have zero idea what you're talking about when it comes to PVP in EVE Online. lol, you couldn't be more wrong, all of the battleclinic mods are PvPers.
How many titans do you normally deal with at the Jita 4-4 undock? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2397
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:19:00 -
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DelightSucker wrote:Congratz CCP you just made sure that Numbers is all in EVE again.
way to **** up your own game.
nulli secunda is known for using titans "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2399
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:30:00 -
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Tetania wrote:Grath is right.
the guy who unironically makes WW2 analogies and honestly believes that 200 dreads are easily sourced off the market is right
send us a postcard from Native Freshfood when you're there! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2399
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:36:00 -
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conqueror2006 wrote:no weapons - yes no weapons, if they can-¦t kill solo one simple dictor, nwo with this nerf, never again
Let's just get something out of the way here: are you saying that titans should be able to effectively solo one of the only two hulls that can tackle them? Do you have any idea how game balancing works? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2400
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:40:00 -
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Gertrud ToD wrote:limiting the amount of targets titans can lock, raising the locking time... there is only one counter that supercap heavy alliances can do to that: bring more titans.
the tracking nerf can easy be countered by having more RR (super) carriers arround to deal with the smaller stuff, while the set of a titan blob will stop hostiles from fielding capitals all together.
maybe i just don't get the plan behind this
So you're saying that titans might just need a support fleet? What a strange and alien concept in this EVE Online game~ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2404
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:51:00 -
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So which one of those is the titan? Oh yeah, the one that kills rock, paper and scissors "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2404
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:56:00 -
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Dank Man wrote:Wow, ccp you must love goons and blobs. because this nerf make the bigger subcap blob win all fights, congrats mittens and goons, you cried enough on the forums and welped enough fleets into capital weapons that you got what you wanted, a capital weapon shield! gg.
20 of your members deciding coalition engagements isn't exactly the better alternative either heh! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2420
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:09:00 -
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Shnejder wrote:Great, now you just need to rebalance Moongo. Oh wait, Mittens pay you to not do it
Mittens has very publicly stated that he's for a technetium nerf, whoops! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2420
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:14:00 -
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Given Raiden's mastery of PvP in EVE Online I am sure that they will adapt to this new envirhahahahahaha "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2420
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:16:00 -
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Dan Massell wrote:Emily Heapy wrote:Dank Man wrote:Wow, ccp you must love goons and blobs. because this nerf make the bigger subcap blob win all fights, congrats mittens and goons, you cried enough on the forums and welped enough fleets into capital weapons that you got what you wanted, a capital weapon shield! gg. Now wipe those tears Mister. Every cloud and all that, at least now you will learn that PvP is more than just Log on titan > Slam head against keyboard and pwn everything. You may even learn some kills now!!!! Regards Emily p.s. I will buy your titan, 30b isk ready i know. because you know lots about PVP because zergling 1600 man fleet across entire region is real PVP. the ONLY thing smaller alliances have against nonsense like this kind of a blob was until now to grow some balls and deploy trillions of ISK on the battlefield and try to even the odds. But that's not real PVP. I know. CCP Grayscale man... stop embarrassing yourself here saying we don't have time to really deal with this the way it should be. we have no resources for that so we going to deploy the most significant change that will most likely help remove number of alliances from the map without any serious thinking. we will finish this later when goons online is completed. Until then all of you who spent 120bil buying and fitting a tit go and spend 30bil more so you can get your lock time to around 45 sec. Its just disrespectful.
Tell me all about how Raiden is a small alliance "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2442
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:41:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:Can we get the skill points we wasted on titan stuff and the minerals back from hulls +rigs. Something like with the learning skills and social thing.
So let me get this strait, biggest ship in the game can fire its weapon once every 10-50min "TD bonus" is stuck for the same 10-50min. it can't use the guns on anything but caps effectively And now it has a constant siege mod effect locking same amount as dread in siege same lock time as a dread in siege if you buy 3 cormacks sensor boosters.
Mine is for sale, CSM is fine but CCP you have to remember democracy is oppression of 49%.
What is this with cormack boosters... Don't think 1/10 of the Raiden Titans have anything better then Shadow... And we have been lucky our enemy have no clue how to fly ships in eve.
EVE Online TOS wrote:CCP MAY FIND IT NECESSARY ON OCCASION TO MAKE CHANGES TO OR RESET CERTAIN PARAMETERS OF THE PERSISTENT GAME WORLD MECHANICS, INTERFACE OR FEATURES OF EVE ONLINE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN GAME BALANCE AND ENHANCE PLAYABILITY OR PERFORMANCE FOR ITS SUBSCRIBERS. THESE CHANGES MAY AFFECT OR CAUSE SETBACKS FOR THE CHARACTERS YOUGÇÖVE CREATED. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2453
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:55:00 -
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Suzdal wrote:Tomytronic wrote:blablabla goonie saying non goon titan pilots do RMT blablabla Tell me goonie, where is all the money your alliance has earned in all these years? Our isk has been transformed into the titans we field but what about yours? Oh sorry, I know, you have no clue about what your leadership does with the isk and you are not able of think for yourself... Anyway you can repit that RMT song forever if it makes you happy.
Our technetium income goes into helping the greater part of our members enjoy the game with a comprehensive reimbursement plan. Yours goes into buying titans for directors. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2453
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:14:00 -
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Tippia wrote:and let the support fleet deal with all the small stuff.
I think that's where they fall short "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2456
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:18:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:There is clearly no problem currently with titans in a blob being able to lock, track, and wipe out, every type of ship in the game instantly. None whatsoever.
Post the killmails where titans couldn't track a subcap because they know what transversal velocity is.
because clearly all 30 of the titans are in the exact same spot on the grid right lmao "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2456
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:20:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:so you have no problem with titans hiting drake and alfa fleets
hisec roleplayer whining about nerfs to a ship he will never own "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2456
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:21:00 -
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Suzdal wrote:omfg so you want us to believe that the fuckton of B isk you generate per month with the tech is entirely spent in drakes for the pilots? you should know that all major alliances have reinbursement programs. for instance all our fleet ships are for free and still we have the isk to build a huge supercap fleet. i remember a few years ago you had the biggest titan fleet. we got into a system and all our fleet was doomsdayed by just one of your titan pilots. we lost everything while you were doing a titan conga and we did not moan. we just adapted to the new situation. now one question for you: what have you done with all those titans?
You mean the PL titan fleet with a few Goonfleet titans here and there? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2464
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:39:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:The Mittani wrote:Titan pilots make up .002% of the player population, if we assume 350k players and ~730 titans according to Diagoras' tweets. So titan pilots don't have more accounts, and btw titans do not shoot sub caps if there are caps on field FYI. I understand why you want this to happen, but don't tell me just because you will not commit that you can not. 92D.
let's be generous and assume that every titan pilot has 4 accounts, that's still insignificant "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2464
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:39:00 -
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AetomHaert Mother wrote:So another case of "Goons don't have it, CCP needs to nerf it"
Goiod job mittens, keep up the good work.
Pretty sure our supercapital fleet far outnumbers that of the prestigious Ignore This. alliance. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2464
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:42:00 -
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Cedo Nulli wrote:Is it just me who thinks its moronic in terms of logic to have massive supership that gets laughed at by subcaps.
Tbh the whole logic behind EVEs "ship has only 1 sized weapons" concept is ******** as hell
Sure its game balance but damn its still stupid as hell.
Its like Deathstar rolling around with only its main planetdestroying weapon and nothing else.
Balance is sort of about not having anything that can effectively solo anything and everything in the game. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2472
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:46:00 -
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Anita1 wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
We're not happy with the effectiveness of large groups of titans against subcapital ships, so we're making some adjustments to titans and to XL turrets.
This is a quick, surgical adjustment to solve a specific issue we have identified. WE or do you mean goons are not happy and let me guess the issue is goons crying too much cause they are too scared to use their own titans great work ccp
so you're saying that the only counter to titans is more titans? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2472
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:55:00 -
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Hahn Super Dry wrote:[Eos] Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II
Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense II [empty high slot]
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
PLEASE ALSO NERF THE EOS BECAUSE IT FORFILLS ALL THOSE ROLES AS WELL!!!!
a fine lossmail indeed "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2472
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:56:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:Might be insignificant, but how many the players in eve have the titans as their goal in EVE. I know I did.
"Titans should stay overpowered so that pubbies can dream about them as they mine veldspar in highsec" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2481
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:07:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:Andski wrote:BioZvin wrote:Might be insignificant, but how many the players in eve have the titans as their goal in EVE. I know I did. "Titans should stay overpowered so that pubbies can dream about them as they mine veldspar in highsec" Otherwise make it cost the same as a drake, it is about 60bil to build and 6 weeks in a POS building time. But I guess you didn't know.
yes because drakes are just as useful as titans
get over yourself, your alliance continued the BoB policy of herding as many high-skillpoint players as possible instead of providing content for new players, and it's coming back to bite you in the ass (again, again and again) "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2481
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:10:00 -
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Pesadel0 wrote:Revii Lagoon wrote:Pesadel0 wrote:Man CCP you really do know hot to stir **** up, isn't the tracking nerf all that is necessary? i mean tracking titans have poor tank already, the signture is fail nerf and so is the locking 3 foes,.
And to the goons saying that tracking titans can hit titans well , learn to tengu bros, it might help. Obviously you haven't seen 30 tracking titans vs tengus. PL did that in an earlier battle over C-J6MT and, well obliterated the -A- tengu fleet. >Link fleet please , because i was there and i dint saw 1 single titan i only saw the slowcats on grid and i was in a tengu . What i remember was you(goons) coming in in drakes and getting rapped by bombs then got raped again by tengus , so \0/
yes, it was a very fun fight indeed "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2495
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:10:00 -
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Pheusia wrote:Complaining about drakes is so 2010. There are plenty of viable counters to every subcap doctrine, even tengu fleets, and its dishonest to pretend otherwise. This Titan rebalance is long overdue and will make sov null a better place. Isn't Malcanis the good posting face of Initdot? Why isn't he around? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2495
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:15:00 -
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Organa wrote:Does ccp not seem to realize that there are only currently 2 ways to counter a vastly numerically Superior force? 1 bombers which die in droves but have some chance but generally arnt that effective in killing 1000 dudes with 200. and the titan blob.
If this patch goes through it will basically make titans logistics platforms and only rarly will they be used to do anything else bc whats the point of using a 90b isk ship when you can use a 1b isk dread and do the same thing?
if your going to nerf them fine but do so in a manner which also addresses the reason they are used they allow a group of players that are willing to field 100x the isk of a massively numerical force and have a chance to win. dont half ass the nerf take the time to truly balance the game. instead of working on things like silly new launchers maybe take the time and actually balance the internet spaceships we all log into play.
let's see the primary differences between dreads and titans:
doomsdays
siege mode "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2498
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:23:00 -
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Organa wrote:and about 89b isk but as i said i don't really mind the nerf but they need to address the cause not the symptom. not just half ass the nerf
ahahaha you pay pubbie prices for your titans ahahahaha "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2498
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:26:00 -
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Angel HUN wrote:Every time you've balanced supers (i.e. things that cannot be docked or even partially refunded through reprocessing) you have been incredibly heavy handed. Once again, this is an over the top reaction to a partisan issue (and we all know who the chief complaints are coming from).
Stop encouraging blobs > all.
Yeah CCP should stop encouraging the idea of multiple players working together in a multiplayer game "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2504
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:34:00 -
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Organa wrote:i don't have the issue with the titan nerf itself and am looking forward to see that they do with the new role, but i think if they are going to do that they need to do it not just nerf them. also your hyperbole dosnt address my point of if one side is willing to field 10 to 100 times the isk of the other side they should have the potential to win(not garented to win bc numbers are an important factor just the potential). in doing a stop gap rushed patch like this they make quantity everything and quality mostly useless. that is my issue with it.
"victory to the most ISK fielded" is bad game design "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2508
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:36:00 -
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Nao Oikawasan wrote:Why, exactly are Drakes, Tengus and Alpha fits a problem in the game?
we literally would not shed a tear if alpha was nerfed
I personally have no love for alpha doctrines - they're mind-numbingly boring and uninteresting. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2508
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:39:00 -
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Gina Aivoras wrote:Sentinel Eeex wrote:Organa wrote:Does ccp not seem to realize that there are only currently 2 ways to counter a vastly numerically Superior force? 1 bombers which die in droves but have some chance but generally arnt that effective in killing 1000 dudes with 200. and the titan blob.
Tell me, how would you kill 25 titans? use 50 titans
Raiden mouthbreather missing the point news at 11 "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2508
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:44:00 -
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Temmu Guerra wrote:So we can expect some radical changes coming with sov warefare to prevent numbers being the only factor because as of right now with this nerf that is all they count for.
CCP totally didn't announce a war-focused expansion for this summer. Nope, not at all. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2508
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:50:00 -
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Hulemand wrote:This is indeed an interesting change to the game, good luck with keeping your job once the amount of accounts drop because of boredom and what follows when you allow for one big power block to control all of EVE.
i love it when the sad lil raiden pubbies say that "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2508
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:56:00 -
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here's a fun fact:
even with this nerf, we'll still use our supercaps to support hundreds of real pilots while you play other games and moan about how EVE is so bad now that you can't blap lol goonies with your one perfectly balanced titans "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2515
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:57:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:There is also another question CCP should think about: Should Eve be all about spamming drakes or should the entitiy with the better and forwardthinking strategy be rewarded?
the better strategy is clearly "get me a cyno, everyone jump, configure configure configure, sort by transversal and lock everything in sight" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2515
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:01:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Guys,
It's easy to solve this problem : Open a new server for goons. Goonity. Stupidity. The name is up to ze mittani. Will be his server after all.
you no longer have any supercaps to worry about, though "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2518
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:10:00 -
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Lelob wrote:Well this seems slightly short sighted. It would have been interesting to see if titans are truly imbalanced or if people were just unwilling to commit fleets to counter them (dreads and supers). I guess we'll never really know though as this nerf seems like it could be a huge game changer, especially for an alliance like Raiden dot.
who cares about raiden "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2521
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:20:00 -
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FeralShadow wrote:TL;DR: Everybody should just give up and join goonswarm now.
I'm glad that the RvB titan fleet is nerfed that's always been a threat to us "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2530
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:45:00 -
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Vellamo Lyr wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:the general design intent of EVE is that you get diminishing returns for progressively higher investments. We always turn away the 3rd and 4th fleet of drakes because of diminishing returns. LMAO.
TEST does not blob they fight honourably lmao get the **** out "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2530
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:46:00 -
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FawKa wrote:Can I have a graph showing how many subs you've lost today CCP? You like graphs so much these days :)
Titan pilots pay more for their accounts than everyone else apparently "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2536
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:51:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Innominate wrote:Ra Death wrote: Dreads are mainly antistructure. Yes, they certainly are. The change to the tracking in siege will be a welcomed change as they can actually defend themselves.
Got this far and just have to ask, What is it you think they're doing to change sieged dreads? They've removed the tracking penalty while in Siege, glad to see you're following along.
oh look grath is posting now, this thread can only go downhill
what do you think they did to the guns that tend to be fitted on dreads???? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2536
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:53:00 -
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Mage Khour wrote:Sadly but true. But i dont see myself fit into EVE ONLINE anymore, CCP keeps nurfing, nurfing and nurfing.
4 accounts now canceled...
CCP wins, gl with destroying the game !
Perpetuum here i come
ahahahaha get owned "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2540
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:58:00 -
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Mhyn Teregone wrote:Why would forty seconds to lock a capital ship matter? Its tackled .. its not going anywhere.
Because driveby doomsdays are the pinnacle of elite PvP "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2540
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:01:00 -
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casama wrote:Well, if caps cant kill subcaps, why you fix the game and make that subcaps cant kill caps?. Just make something that ONLY caps will be able to kill caps
that's the dumbest idea ever
oh wait raidenpost "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2543
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:07:00 -
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Kerdrak wrote:Now that super capitals are vanity items, will they be sold in the NeX store via Aurums?
Titans have only ever been useful for shooting subcaps. You are correct. They do not have the capability to bridge fleets, they do not have the capability to apply 3 million racial damage to any capital-sized target, and they certainly can't shoot towers without the ability to receive remote reps. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2548
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:20:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:So was this balance change directed at a ship or a coalition? Obviously this is Soundwave trying to milk what he can out of a dying old game for his old allaince and nothing more, but guys, guys, it was bad when it was T20 that was doing this for his alliance.
Congrats, you've descended to the level of tinfoil hat wearing pubbies "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:27:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Oh and CCP be sure to change the message for new players:
Join a coalition that can field 1000 dudes or more or don't bother trying to play at all.
Better than telling them "don't bother going to 0.0 until you can fly a titan" tbh "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:31:00 -
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Supersnowprs wrote:First the obvious: A titan is a ship that is a lot harder to make (Time, materials, training). -A blap fit titan does the same if not less damage than a dread. (Depending on its fit.) -What titans have going for them is they can do it mobile while having better tracking, ehp, lock times.
As of right now titans have a little too much tracking and could even do with a few less sensor strength. But ccp, these changes are too much. Lets forgot all the blob Quantity over Quality and all that stuff for now.
"Realistically" (As per lore and the proposed changes)
So say you empire has finally built its largest ship ever, a titan. Its role is Anti-caps as ccp has stated. Lets say its taken your team a decade, (You had to do R&D to come-up with BPs ect.) -Only problem is that even with sensor boosters it still takes forever to even lock a titan nether mind other capitals. (See the other posts.) So now you have a 13km long spaceship that you wasted 10 years of the empires time and money on. -That locks slower than a sieged dread. -Does the same or less damage than a sieged dread -Can lock as many targets as that dread -Tracks as well as that dread. -And that cost as much as 50 sieged dreads (roughly).
Im fairly certain that the people who hired you will be quite pissed off that all you built was a much more expensive armored dread that can fire a Doomsday. (Unless you told them you were making that) And were too lazy to add decent electronics that you could of easily fit.
Point here -5 scan rez is too slow -only 3 targets at five scan rez is stupid -The Caldari team got assassinated for being too stupid with money.
I bet you think that 50 escorted freighters have to be run from Jita to your CSAA every time a titan is built "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:35:00 -
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better yet, give me your "useless" titan and so I can use it uselessly "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2559
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:38:00 -
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Carl Albanit wrote:CCP is making a 100b Ship worst than a 3b Ship....
Seems Legit
*tactical facepalm*
No, it's better by a margin. A supercarrier can't field 150 fighters simply because it costs 15 times as much as a carrier. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2559
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:39:00 -
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mama guru wrote:Stop whining.
I did not **** and moan when I could no longer fit 7 Heatsinks on my Geddon and get away with it.
CCP has a history of nerfing stuff that is hillariously gamebreaking.
EVOL guy telling his ex alliance mates to suck it up
this thread gets better and better "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:49:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Achaiah7 wrote:The tears, they precious. I can haz your stuffs? You can't. Cos you can't fly it. Now go back into your drake.
If I recall right, we relieved you of the burden of Nyx ownership. You replaced it, and lost a Nyx and Ragnarok shortly thereafter. HEH "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2565
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:55:00 -
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Lelob wrote:In truth I'm not really sure what CCP is trying to accomplish here.
Titans being purely anti-cap weapons seems somewhat useless outside of ganks, given the incredible rarity of capital fights in EVE right now. Especially when the side fielding caps and titans has traditionally been facing a blob of subcaps and not caps. At its core it not only shows CCP's ignorance of the metagame right now, but also of the fact that no serious attempts have been made to actively kill titans outside of ganks. Saying titans are imbalanced and need a nerf simply does not make sense, given the context in which the argument is being made.
Why, exactly, do titans rarely get killed outside of ganks? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:56:00 -
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Tamplarul wrote:Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:Achaiah7 wrote:The tears, they precious. I can haz your stuffs? You can't. Cos you can't fly it. Now go back into your drake. If I recall right, we relieved you of the burden of Nyx ownership. You replaced it, and lost a Nyx and Ragnarok shortly thereafter. HEH he lost a Nyx but not a Titan
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11888158
hmmmmm "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2580
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:01:00 -
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Tamplarul wrote:was another guy on titan
The point is that he's awful at this game and lost two supercarriers faster than anybody I know
The Mittani, for all your supercapital trading needs~~~~~~~ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2590
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:07:00 -
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Tamplarul wrote:o yes The Mittani is a F*** scammer and CCP help him... but it is another story
The Mittani is not a scammer. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2590
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:11:00 -
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Lord Aliventi wrote:These are terrible changes. Nerfs almost never fix anythings. And even worse we get "I don't really have the time to do this right, so I am going to do this terribly and hope it fixes things". Bravo CCP. You really should delay this until you can do it right.
If the issue is them showing up on field, then swapping fit to kill subcaps, then make it so they can't refit in space or refit when they have an aggression timer. Problem solved. Titans can either tank, or shoot subcaps. Your choice. Choose wrong and another supercap dies for the good of Eve.
What role does CCP want for titans? Looks to me that it's noobship replacement. Oh wait... The noobship can still do stuff. For the sheer amount of SP, time, and isk involved, titan pilots should be able to drop their titans and destroy opposing fleets. TItans should bring fear to the battlefield. After this I doubt you will see many of them even on the battlefield.
And btw Goonies: A drake with a sig radius of 2.5+KMs should be able to be hit by titans. I mean no s***. Your the effective side of a skyscraper. If a titan misses you I would be complaining for a titan tracking buff. Go figure y'all would be the ones dumb (or should I say clever enough?) enough to repeatedly do this to prove that titans are "broken". Well played. And well played Mittens.
Give me your titan so I can show you how useless it is "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2590
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:11:00 -
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Lelob wrote:Throwing a bunch of subcaps at titans and expecting to win is not even close to being a serious attempt. Fielding a fleet of 200 dreads with carrier and super support would be a serious attempt, and is well within the capabilities of the CFC. I understand well enough why CCP thinks titans must be nerfed, but it is not because of any game-breaking aspects of the titan itself, but of the unwillingness of both actors to engage in a potentially costly capital fight when the results remain uncertain. As I said before, nobody will really know for certain if titans truly are imbalanced until a serious, concerted effort has been made to kill them.
feel free to source 200 dreads off the market meight
also did you not see the shiptype that was killed by titans? it was an interdictor. what other methods are available for tackling titans? neuting, bumping battleships? lmao "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:19:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Lord Aliventi wrote: What role does CCP want for titans?
Are you illiterate? It says right there in the blog post. Titans are there to blap other capital ships. Something they are already very good at and have not had that ability nerfed in the slightest. If only people actually deployed caps in any meaningful number.
Dominion's fighterbombers and capital popping doomsdays ensured that carriers are relegated into suicide triage platforms and dreads are, uh, docked. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:22:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Are you illiterate? It says right there in the blog post. Titans are there to blap other capital ships. Something they are already very good at and have not had that ability nerfed in the slightest. Wait, will these be the titans that need 30 billion in sensor boosters to lock a cap before it can de agro and dock?
I doubt you'll have any problems locking carriers in triage and DDing them? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2606
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:30:00 -
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Organa wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Organa wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Lord Aliventi wrote: What role does CCP want for titans?
Are you illiterate? It says right there in the blog post. Titans are there to blap other capital ships. Something they are already very good at and have not had that ability nerfed in the slightest. wrong the scan res part alone means that a capital can deagress and dock before a titan could lock it unless its using 4 officer sebos which severely impact its fit (4 non officer sebos wont cut it) Deaggress and dock? Why is your capital humping a station instead of attacking/defending a TCU or SBU or sitting in a POS? If you mean in lowsec, he he heheh ahah hahahahaha. you mean like reaping there station that just came out of rf or there services
tell me all about how repping a station gets you aggressed "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2606
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:33:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:you mean the lines of my pile of officer sensor boosters
because the things it's saying there are dirty
the forces of elite pvp could not beat a goonNOOB to jita contracts "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2606
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:34:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:Weaselior wrote:Dez Affinity wrote:
That's kind of the point...
Way to read between the lines genius.
you mean the lines of my pile of officer sensor boosters because the things it's saying there are dirty Hey goonswarm this guy is in your alliance lma0
yes he is our CFO
you guys have penifsmash and ordo garr lma0 "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2606
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:34:00 -
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pandemic legion, the dumping ground for goonswarm's worst posters "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2619
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:36:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:Just looking forward to seeing what you will get nurfed next, when we start beating you with something els... if people are not to mad at CCP to keep subscribing. Honestly I am not far from it myself, think this is a very poor and ill advised "temp" nurf.
Can you atleast make us able to dock our useless ships so we can get in others ?
are you implying that your alliance knows how to fly anything without PL teaching you how "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2619
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:37:00 -
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hey PL remember how your ~slowcats~ died in a fire in C-J to -A- tengus
oh wait they didn't "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2619
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:39:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:Sentinel Eeex wrote:
Judging by the nonsense you are spewing, it would appear that he actually does know more about PvP than you.
Go ahead and refute what I said. No one is dropping dreads in a support fight to kill triage carriers outside of low sec (where the numbers total in the fight are around the hundred mark)
hey I wonder why dreads are fielded so often in low-sec
what has effectively been out of the game there? bombs, it's obviously bombs "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2619
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:40:00 -
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here's a video of our titans dying in a fire to Raiden dreads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6pmYYVBMmU "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2619
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:41:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:Andski wrote:BioZvin wrote:Just looking forward to seeing what you will get nurfed next, when we start beating you with something els... if people are not to mad at CCP to keep subscribing. Honestly I am not far from it myself, think this is a very poor and ill advised "temp" nurf.
Can you atleast make us able to dock our useless ships so we can get in others ? are you implying that your alliance knows how to fly anything without PL teaching you how Cause you come up with so many fleet combo's, that just funny :) I have seen no change in setup from you, would have thought you might want to try and counter what your against. Question still stands can we dock Supers soon ?
counter-point: raiden flies all the same cookie cutter fleet compositions as everyone else "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2630
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:49:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:brilliant, fatal acension will be contacting you shortly.
(p.s it's nothing to do with titans, it's the low cost, high dps and ability to track BS, basically a sc post patch)
ahahaha sure why not "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2630
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:52:00 -
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tengu fleets don't kill larger fleets of maelstroms
abaddon fleets don't kill larger fleets of drakes
nope "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2632
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:07:00 -
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Tithi wrote:Well now you've just traded "who has the most X" for "who has the most Y".
You saying "Well they should bring a matching subcap fleet" is no different from them saying "Well they should bring a matching supercap fleet."
I agree with this nerf, but I think some tweaking to carriers and dreads might be necessary to make them more useful against subcaps in fleet battles. Just a thought.
perhaps you should try PvP other than nopod matches in hisec before you comment in discussions about 0.0 warfare between alliances that matter "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2632
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:07:00 -
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Wanten wrote:Seems like CCP have again alienated their veteran players, please remind me why i should continue to play when all i need to train for is a drake.
You had made some steps forward with your recent changes by consulting and listening to players, now you have taken two steps back towards blob warfare and super coalitions grinding the servers to a halt.
Don't worry Fusen guy PL will teach you a new way to fight larger fleets "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2632
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:10:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:This is also a lie, as you well know that even the best fleet comp can be swamped through sheer numbers, even when perfectly flown, especially with the state of Artillery alpha.
So again, what beats 1200 dudes (and to the guy that said 600, you can get 600 dudes on a tuesday night with no effort, lets be realistic and think about your saturday 'timer' fleets).
i've said this before - i literally do not care if artillery alpha is nerfed. alpha-centered doctrines like maelstroms and artillery abaddons are just boring, and I wait for the day we hop into something more interesting. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:43:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Anela Cistine wrote: There is nothing stopping alliances like PL and Raiden. from simply recruiting the low-skill backbone of a subcap fleet tomorrow. EXACTLY, thank you, numbers are all that matter now. Numbers Online, the internet spaceship game.
hey grath why don't you come on test jabber and sperg there a bit "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2636
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:44:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:when balancing a ship you don't base it on the extremes of whats possible you base it on whats realistic with that said go through all the titan lose mails in eves history and tell me what percentage of them are nothing but meta 14.
sorry that you drank the PL kool-aid and decided to get a titan so you can blap subcaps with the cool kids "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2636
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:45:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Khadmos wrote:
Look at this PL guy thinking that dreads can kill a single titan in a titan fleet. How cute.
You do realize that it was a CFC dread fleet that actually killed a titan in a titan fleet about a month ago right?
look guys the CFC dropped dreads and killed ONE TITAN out of an entire fleet while getting waxed by doomsdays left and right "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2639
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:51:00 -
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hoggar wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Anela Cistine wrote: There is nothing stopping alliances like PL and Raiden. from simply recruiting the low-skill backbone of a subcap fleet tomorrow. EXACTLY, thank you, numbers are all that matter now. Numbers Online, the internet spaceship game. And how many people are in PL's blue list atm? Less your alliance size
shut up npc alt "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:55:00 -
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hoggar wrote:Supercap online
BLOB OR DIE ONLINE
i think the latter is a lot better "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:56:00 -
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Swearte Widfarend wrote:Charles Case wrote:Swearte Widfarend wrote:Charles Case wrote:TELL ME HOW YOU CAN BEAT A 2000 BLOB END OF DISCUSSION Turn off the servers and go home. If you would stop and think (I know, sometimes it's hard when you are in madposting mode), you would realize that half of this Titan nerf is beyond stupid. If Titans are supposed to shoot capitals, great. But after the update with the scan resolution change, Titans won't even be able to do that unless you spend an additional 30-40 BILLION ISK to fit stupid Officer Sensor Boosters. And in doing so, it won't change their ability to shoot MWD Drakes or MWD Maelstroms. So what does this achieve, other than having the Titan pilots not log in at all? Because I didn't think CCPs goals was fewer folks on the cluster. That's some pretty dumb reasoning there ok Math is hard. An MWD Drake (or MWD Maelstrom) has the signature of a Carrier. Ergo, the MWD Maelstrom or MWD Drake can be hit by a turret Titan. The proposed Titan changes don't change that fact.
yeah we tend to run our MWDs for fun and just sit still "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2641
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:58:00 -
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Variable1 wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Ikoma Sunblazer wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: The scan res number is balanced around multiple Cormack's sensor boosters, on the assumption that money is not a limiting factor for titan pilots, and therefore that people will shell out for officer SBs if that lets them continue do this kind of thing. All things aside, this is a pretty hilarious assumption that doesn't make sense in context. With a base sensor strength of 5, you are talking about a few seconds difference between t2 and cormack out of a probable minute+ lock time. Well worth the 4b+ sensor booster imo Gains you 25s against frigates (105 to 79, assuming 3 are fitted), 15s against cruisers (64 to 49) and 10s against battleships (44 to 33). If you see this as a big difference, then it's worth balancing around the officer fit given that dropping 12bn on SBs is not a huge fraction of the outlay for a properly-fit titan. If you don't see this as a big difference, then balancing around the officer fit isn't a big deal because it's not having a major impact. Either way, it's a functional assumption 1. lol'ing at 'assumptions' instead of actual in game data being used to make HUGE changes in game. 2. lol'ing at all Titan pilots being 'rich'. Titan pilots are probably botters. Titan pilots are RMT'ers. Titan pilots all fit Officer everything. Titan pilots standard fit can pop bs/cruisers/frigs. Do you even have the slightest clue? 3. lol'ing at the 2 types of people in this thread agreeing - goons and friends of goons (ie no clue) 4. lol'ing at the lack of work done on countering 700+ maels... 5. lol'ing at the welcome to BLOB land. 6. lol'ing that my tears are not as much for the nerf, but for the shear stupidity of the arguments used to create this nerf and the disbelief that CCP cannot see you for what you have become. Sad days ahead perhaps, but most will try to keep up the honest fight against goonswarmonline, and continue to have their counters nerfed until quitting time. I will donate my stuff to anyone who can change the goon ethos of 'destroy eve whatever the cost'. Onwards on upwards. :-) Tinfoil off.
it's well-known that -A- and Goonswarm are long-time friends "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:59:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:Not going to bother reading nearly 40 pages of Goons giving knob gratification to get their way (obviously how they wanted it to turn out ), but can I ask this Can we please get a PVP flag? Solves the whole issue of losers (like the guys getting stomped by titans cause they obviously failed to bring them to counter thin tank glass cannon Titans) no longer feeling like losers. Wander into a gate camp, its ok. AFK to jita in a Kestrel full of PLEX, its ok. AFK in a Hulk fit for cargo letting a damn destroyer take it out, its ok. No fear of getting your Officer fit CNR ganked cause its worth 5 billion in a 1/5 the cost hull, its ok. Cause you can no longer lose it, by completely avoiding the actions you used to take that made you a loser and a ******* idiot in the first place that you deserve to lose it. /sarcasmn off Can't dumb down the game anymore (Oh wait, we can. Lets request that PVP flag everyone!), just have to scream and whine loud enough to get your way. No one can find an obvious solution (like bringing their own massive Titan fleets instead of battleships and T3 cruisers) to meta game better then the guys who found a way to meta game better then the whiners; Titan pilots continued to use a Titan after it lost AoE doomsday, after it lost the ability to hit sub cap ships with DD, after it lost its drones, after it lost 20% of its hitpoints, they still found a way.... but you couldn't find a solution but to whine because you were unwilling, unable, or refused to fly / bring a cap ship of your own. Yes, now the Titan pilots are the losers because you couldn't nut the **** up and put out (you could only take it like an internet **** queen and moaned loud enough, CCP had to metaphorically install sound proofing so they don't have to hear your loud screams ) To the CCP staff, really think how you are dumbing down the game because a portion of your player base can't handle getting their ass handed to them. Then think of the other portion and would you really make such a change, that it offends the other portion (like making Highsec and Carebears totally safe because one side wanted it, but the other doesn't and it totally offends them but you go ahead with it anyway because they scream about it)
you are stupid "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:01:00 -
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titans should be exempt from any changes and balancing because they are expensive ~end-game ships~ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2641
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:02:00 -
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Le Cardinal wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
Goons are not happy with the effectiveness of large groups of titans against subcapital ships, so we have to make some adjustments.
Nice to see those ccp connections are working out for you. Well played goons. Putting Soundwave in charge of this is pretty hilarious considering his past history.
ahahaha CCP connections get real "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2642
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:12:00 -
[87] - Quote
glad it's mutual "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2648
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:18:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote: Thats nice, why would they ever be somewhere to get bubbled? Theres literally no need to, they come in, sit in staging tower, then cynoing in their own supers to do any heavy lifting in the system. But hey, at least you had 200 bombers.
hmm how do you get a subcap fleet out of a staging POS when they have friendly supers operating in the system "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2652
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:41:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:Achaiah7 wrote:The tears, they precious. I can haz your stuffs? You can't. Cos you can't fly it. Now go back into your drake. If I recall right, we relieved you of the burden of Nyx ownership. You replaced it, and lost a Nyx and Ragnarok shortly thereafter. HEH Your spies are dead and burried long time ago prolly. 1. I do post with my main 2. I never lost a titan. 3. I lost a Nyx cos mittani is a jerk and is using his CSM chairman position ( which is outside the game ) in the game to scam people. 3. I lost another Nyx trying to save my friend's titan. 3. I did replace one Nyx and bought 1 more titan and was aiming to get another 2. If they really nerf the titans, I won't buy another, of course. I will also stop most of my accounts and keep only 3-4. I have 12 now. CCP will be happy I suppose. 4. No, you can't have my stuff cos you simply don't have the skills to use most of my ships. Regarding the Titan nerf : If it gets to that, I think would be fair for us to have the skill points back to reallocate them into something useful and the isk spent on the titans as well ( market price not production price ).
You lost the first Nyx because you're an idiot. You lost the other Nyx because you're an idiot who never realized that a triage carrier is a cheaper and more effective way to save a supercapital that is being attacked. You're an eBay moron - fyi, i can fly literally any ship you own, this is not my only character ;p "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:45:00 -
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Enochia Starr wrote:If you remove tracking, bring back AOE Doomsday.
Stay in highsec "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:53:00 -
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Enochia Starr wrote:Andski wrote:Enochia Starr wrote:If you remove tracking, bring back AOE Doomsday. Stay in highsec LOL, look at my corp history? And I own a titan so really this doesn't effect you at all, which you probably don't even have a titan? "oh i got killed by an avatar in my maelstrom oh noo, NERF TITANS!!!" Only way to really counter maelstroms was the titans, good bye nullsec warfare.
no intelligent, rational person would look at EvE and say that AoE doomsdays are needed again
how would you propose that cynojammers be destroyed? hmm?
have fun getting multiple doomsdayed "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:02:00 -
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Pharon Reichter wrote:Ganthrithor wrote:Pharon Reichter wrote: make subcaps only be able to shoot pos mods This sounds pretty fun. I love fleet fights vs anchored opponents. You'd have to bring down that cyno-jammer to bring the caps in.
Not if you're in Ev0ke! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2658
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:09:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:By making this change you are actually hurting the alliances who actually have the balls to field their 100b isk ships. The cfc has at least 2 times the super capital numbers as raiden. The problem is we don't have the balls to lose some killing all of theirs.
someone doesn't understand timezone dominance! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2664
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:15:00 -
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GreGh Rakrot wrote:Koby Botick wrote:GreGh Rakrot wrote: Changes to titans ? Ofc, but do it in proper way (preferably with drastic sov change mechanics).
If you actually read the OP from Greyscale you will find that he said that they want to do a big overhaul, but they can't do it now. If you read between the lines, you can read that they have to step in now with a quick fix, because abuse of tracking titans has become too widespread and can no longer be ignored. If you would acctualy read what I said you would see I am talking about greater picture here where titans wouldnt be needed to counter massive fleets since they wouldnt exist. What the dev in OP is talking about is greater overhaul of titans only. The thing is titan fleets are a response to what existed before, huge fleets that can only be countered with better hardware by those that dont have same numbers. Thats why I quoted your alliance member who seems to understand the issue. Hotfix would be what he suggested, what CCP is doing is plain out nerf bat without much thought of the consequences. Yes, titans and supercaps in general are in some sort of limbo because CCP doesnt know what role to give them, but making them POS ornaments isnt a solution. To be honest this whole game would need massive overhaul because CCP has been applying mostly "hotfixes" for years rather then properly re-doing the whole 0.0 concept of the game.
Nobody wants titans to be POS ornaments, not even the CFC.
Did you not pay attention to the fact that there is an entire EXPANSION coming up focused on warfare? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:20:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:0 Trans = Dead. These changes do nothing to fix peoples stupidity
why don't you join PL about it lmao "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2664
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:21:00 -
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Acwron wrote:You have no clue what happened but you speak like you actually know. Idiot? You're stupid enough to think you're smart. That wouldn't bother me but it seems you wanna show it to everybody. Congratz, now we all know you're just a pathetic loser. You're the only one who doesn't and will never know it. Cos you're too dumb. Fight titans and get the loss kill mail like a man.
I know that you lost a Nyx to a scam like a moron, and I know that you lost another Nyx trying to save a titan that was helplessly screwed. Poor eBay warrior. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2664
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:You have no clue what happened but you speak like you actually know. Idiot? You're stupid enough to think you're smart. That wouldn't bother me but it seems you wanna show it to everybody. Congratz, now we all know you're just a pathetic loser. You're the only one who doesn't and will never know it. Cos you're too dumb. Fight titans and get the loss kill mail like a man.
I know that you lost a Nyx to a scam like a moron, and I know that you lost another Nyx trying to save a titan that was helplessly screwed. Poor eBay warrior.
it's not like vera cruz is known for their supercapital dominance anywhere "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2676
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:26:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:Andski wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:0 Trans = Dead. These changes do nothing to fix peoples stupidity why don't you join PL about it lmao you're a idiot changing the game to who ever brings more subcaps wins is not any better than who bring more super caps.
look at the sad test publord crying about his shiny new titan getting a temporary nerfbat (( "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2676
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:29:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:Andski wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:0 Trans = Dead. These changes do nothing to fix peoples stupidity why don't you join PL about it lmao you're a idiot changing the game to who ever brings more subcaps wins is not any better than who bring more super caps.
TEST is known far and wide for never using numbers to their advantage anywhere ever "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:43:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Oh Lord, EBay warrior...I'm not banned yet ! You know why? I'll let you do the research, wise ass....
Eve is not real...if it was real, mitanni would be in jail, having a girlfriend named John the Butcher 2m and 120kg black guy whooping his ass daily.
Eve is not real.
that's why you're bawwwwing over changes to a ship that your scrub alliance never uses strategically "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2688
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:58:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:Sentinel Eeex wrote:Organa wrote:Does ccp not seem to realize that there are only currently 2 ways to counter a vastly numerically Superior force? 1 bombers which die in droves but have some chance but generally arnt that effective in killing 1000 dudes with 200. and the titan blob.
Tell me, how would you kill 25 titans? You guys need to put 150 odd of your 1600 man blob into dreads. And stop implying you have NO WAY to win WITHOUT bringing 50 titans yourself
92 dread hulls on the market, hmm "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2688
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:04:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:Andski wrote:Bozl1n wrote:Sentinel Eeex wrote:Organa wrote:Does ccp not seem to realize that there are only currently 2 ways to counter a vastly numerically Superior force? 1 bombers which die in droves but have some chance but generally arnt that effective in killing 1000 dudes with 200. and the titan blob.
Tell me, how would you kill 25 titans? You guys need to put 150 odd of your 1600 man blob into dreads. And stop implying you have NO WAY to win WITHOUT bringing 50 titans yourself 92 dread hulls on the market, hmm Then build some?
that's obviously feasible and not an industrial feat that no alliance can expect to keep up on a regular basis "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2693
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:09:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:Sirhan Blixt wrote:Bozl1n wrote:Andski wrote:92 dread hulls on the market, hmm Then build some? Your lack of self-awareness is breathtaking. You really think not being able to simply buy them from the market is a valid argument? Really?
yes, it's a valid argument because no alliance in the game can pop out 150 dreads every other day "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2693
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:12:00 -
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let's not forget that even if we could keep that up and pop 150 dreads out of the oven every other day, it'd tie up valuable component BPOs in the process that could instead be used for supercapital production "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2693
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:13:00 -
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Natsumi Moritso wrote:Make subcaps unable to target structures -> problem solved.
Supers shoulndt kill subcaps because its not their role. Subcaps shoulnd kill structures cause ITS NOT THEIR ROLE.
alright genius how do you suggest that high-sec/low-class WH pos shots take place "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2693
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:16:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Andski wrote:Natsumi Moritso wrote:Make subcaps unable to target structures -> problem solved.
Supers shoulndt kill subcaps because its not their role. Subcaps shoulnd kill structures cause ITS NOT THEIR ROLE. alright genius how do you suggest that high-sec/low-class WH pos shots take place Lets focus on whats important here: What the CFC wants to be able to play.
Let's also focus on the total unfeasibility of your proposed "hurr drop 200 dreads erryday, titans die no pr0b" crap "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2696
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:23:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:Andski wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Andski wrote:Natsumi Moritso wrote:Make subcaps unable to target structures -> problem solved.
Supers shoulndt kill subcaps because its not their role. Subcaps shoulnd kill structures cause ITS NOT THEIR ROLE. alright genius how do you suggest that high-sec/low-class WH pos shots take place Lets focus on whats important here: What the CFC wants to be able to play. Let's also focus on the total unfeasibility of your proposed "hurr drop 200 dreads erryday, titans die no pr0b" crap What ships are you guys going to kill? Titans What ships role ingame is to kill other caps? Drakes? Your NOT taking the right ships to fight?
hey take some time to consider the logistics of shitting out 150 dreads on a regular basis before posting dumb ideas!!!
here's a start: it's like building 19 supercarriers every other day
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2696
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:24:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Would this change be happening if CFC were the ones with the super capitals?
According to PL, Raiden and NCdot they'd suck it up and take it in stride!
(ahahaha not really it'd have been nerfed long ago) "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2696
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:29:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:Grath do me a favor go through and list out the numbers of supers and titan the cfc has by alliance. Top 5 supercap alliances in EVE: PL (Nearly 400) NCdot (281 on file) AAA (280 on file) RAIDEN (260 on file) Goonswarm Federation (200 even on file but growing daily) FA adds 40, RAZOR adds about 80, TEST adds 70, and those are just the major super cap holders for the CFC, the rest are 20-30 additions from their camp, with Eovke adding another 60 to Raidens team.
hey uh have you considered the fact that whenever Raiden's supercapital fleet is out doing things the better part of our super pilots are at work or at school, because lol US TZ? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2696
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:34:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Andski wrote:
hey take some time to consider the logistics of shitting out 150 dreads on a regular basis before posting dumb ideas!!!
We used 1 single build team, and it took us 10 days to **** out 140 dreads once the line was up and running. Ten whole days.
capital builders won't burn out from sustaining that for months, nope "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2697
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:42:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:so the cfc has 390 before you start bothering with the smaller alliances in the cfc. so if this sleeping ever grew the balls to actually get in a slugfest we would out number raiden and have full control of tidi and our subcap numbers would spike like mad when we broadcasted titan tackled get in fleet.
and die in a fire when 300 PL/NCdot supercaps arrive to bail Raiden out "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2698
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:45:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:Andski wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Andski wrote:
hey take some time to consider the logistics of shitting out 150 dreads on a regular basis before posting dumb ideas!!!
We used 1 single build team, and it took us 10 days to **** out 140 dreads once the line was up and running. Ten whole days. capital builders won't burn out from sustaining that for months, nope You wouldnt have to dude - you can sure as hell kill them faster than they can replace titans and who is to say your gonna lose all the dreads? ofc those dreads needs to be fully supported by an appropriate fleet
sorry to screw up your logic but dreads have to siege and lock to do any real damage to titans
during that process, we'll lose a sizeable number of them to doomsdays
oh and their guns are chewing through them individually while the fighterbombers from the accompanying supercarriers fly in
we'd probably kill a couple of titans, 3-4 optimistically, but the vast, vast majority of those dreads - if not all of them - would be lost
fyi the last titan we killed was replaced in the same day "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2698
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:47:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Here's a hint, if Mittens isn't tearing down the CSAA's building titans theres an obvious reason why, and that reason, is that this patch, is a joke.
I'm glad that you're perfectly fine with titans being nerfed into oblivion to the point where our CSAAs would simply be torn down. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:52:00 -
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Andski wrote:sorry to screw up your logic but dreads have to siege and lock to do any real damage to titans
during that process, we'll lose a sizeable number of them to doomsdays
on that note, this change actually means that the dreads might actually get a volley or two on titans before being doomsdayed! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2698
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:53:00 -
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Pesadel0 wrote:Got to love grath posting owning noobs like there isn't no tomorrow.
if your pubbie self was able to read you'd realize that grath is actually getting hazed itt "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2705
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:57:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:Under this system the dreads will get a good 30 secs before the titans even lock target - assumeing all 25 titans shot at different targets ud lose 25 odd to doomsday? You have an age before they are ready to fire again
And yea it might have been replaced straight away - but kill ennuf of them and they wouldnt be replaced so easy.
I AGREE that titans should not be able to pwn subcaps wholesale - but at the same time you should be in the correct ships for the job urself, which it seems you havnt been?
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12203172
yep wrong ships "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2705
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:59:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Andski wrote:
if your pubbie self was able to read you'd realize that grath is actually getting hazed itt
Not really, I've been hit on, flirted with, and basically told I was mad. Later, after this patch, I'm going to be smug as hell, but right now, we'll let you think you're owning somebody, because the number of titans you're pumping out says that I'm not really getting hazed. Also, if you don't think trading 60 dreads for fit titans is worth the effort or time, then I think you don't really get how this game works.
yes we get it you're the puppetmaster "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:00:00 -
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also the fact that we're building titans is relevant in this discussion "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2705
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:01:00 -
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epsilonion wrote:CCP want more people in 0.0 think of a way to get small alliances into 0.0 without having to join a power block...
yes this is clearly not a start "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2706
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:10:00 -
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Pesadel0 wrote:Karadion wrote:Pesadel0 wrote:Got to love grath posting owning noobs like there isn't no tomorrow. Wearing the wrong goggles, are you? The posts above yours and your "mad" and the andski noob posting like a uzi say otherwise.
look at the ex-bob trash not getting it
such a shame "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:12:00 -
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i don't need skillpoints or years of playing this game to 0wn you with my overpowered posting "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2706
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:13:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:Andski wrote:Bozl1n wrote:Under this system the dreads will get a good 30 secs before the titans even lock target - assumeing all 25 titans shot at different targets ud lose 25 odd to doomsday? You have an age before they are ready to fire again
And yea it might have been replaced straight away - but kill ennuf of them and they wouldnt be replaced so easy.
I AGREE that titans should not be able to pwn subcaps wholesale - but at the same time you should be in the correct ships for the job urself, which it seems you havnt been?
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12203172yep wrong ships What ships killed the titan in that mail? Dreads..... Supers..... How many u lose while killing it?
I wish EVE Kill had a way to view all of the kills in a particular system that took place around the same timeframe. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2706
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:14:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:Auto Targeting System II is now a standard titan mod wolololol +3 locked targets
look at the test publord continuing his whining
pets gonna pet~~~ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2708
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:23:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:Andski wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:Auto Targeting System II is now a standard titan mod wolololol +3 locked targets
look at the test publord continuing his whining pets gonna pet~~~ actually i'm not whining anymore I have finally got past my rage and figured out how to counter the nerf completely
not like it matters because you'll never use your titan except to kill godfathers in npc fountain lmao
it's a good thing you played some BF3 with PL and did a few ops with them, now you get to stand on their shoulders and call yourself tall! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2710
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:34:00 -
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PL 2012: whines about hardly being able to muster 200 dudes, brags about having 400 supers "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:46:00 -
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Surge Roth wrote:I came to this game trying to get away from WoW bullshit, but it turns out management in this game wants to go in that direction.
EVE is turning into a game where the lvl85 vets with the best gear effortlessly farm lower-levels with impunity, yeap "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:59:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:And to think all of this, everything, can be traced years back to a single thing. An old man deciding that killing newbies in Syndicate would be fun.
Now that's a butterfly effect. ftfy "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:01:00 -
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Surge Roth wrote:Andski wrote:Surge Roth wrote:I came to this game trying to get away from WoW bullshit, but it turns out management in this game wants to go in that direction. EVE is turning into a game where the lvl85 vets with the best gear effortlessly farm lower-levels with impunity, yeap You missed my imply completely bird brain. WoW changes their game to allow scrubs and losers like you a chance at being a winner and this change is one step in that direction. Sorry you have some psychological issue where you grow sentiment of subcap space pixels and want to have wins spoon fed to you, but this change is simply wrong silly bee/
says pubbie no. 91416177 in the noob corp "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:13:00 -
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Surge Roth wrote:Takashi Kaeda wrote:Surge Roth wrote:Andski wrote:Surge Roth wrote:I came to this game trying to get away from WoW bullshit, but it turns out management in this game wants to go in that direction. EVE is turning into a game where the lvl85 vets with the best gear effortlessly farm lower-levels with impunity, yeap You missed my imply completely bird brain. WoW changes their game to allow scrubs and losers like you a chance at being a winner and this change is one step in that direction. Sorry you have some psychological issue where you grow sentiment of subcap space pixels and want to have wins spoon fed to you, but this change is simply wrong silly bee/ Listen ******. This is a sandbox pvp game. Having a do-all-end-all ship in that kind of game is ******* ********. That you're comparing this at all to welfare epics etc shows that you fail to understand eve at a fundamental level. Guess what scrub! The titans are part of the sand box. What you guys want is the equivalent of welfare epics where everyone wins instead of committing the same amount of effort and skill it takes to win.
quiet trash "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:14:00 -
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Surge Roth wrote:Don't be mad that I'm stylin' all over you little bee no. 2,567. Besides, don't you have some autist with assburgers to listen to on vent shout your primaries while spamming f1? Now go serve your queen little bee.
look at the publord trying to talk down to his betters "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:16:00 -
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Surge Roth wrote:Don't be mad that I'm right. Face it bro, using carrier signature sized vessels will get hit by titans.
easy to say that when you fear entering nullsec due to the wall of death :shobon: "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:18:00 -
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Surge Roth wrote:With the way you losers fight, I may go to your part of nullsec to get hopelessly murdered and whine about blobs on the forums later
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:19:00 -
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just to help you get started
mission fits don't work in pvp "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2770
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:21:00 -
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feel free to come by deklein to farm kills
maybe you'll kill a few ratters and smug about it on the forums lmao "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2770
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:22:00 -
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Surge Roth wrote:Andski wrote:just to help you get started
mission fits don't work in pvp I've got some news for your ****** drake fleets...
drake fleets are support for maelstroms, fyi
also buffer fits work well in PvE I hear "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2776
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:23:00 -
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we're losers with 800bn monthly tech income and the ability to throw 1600 angry assholes at anybody we wish at the blink of a tilde "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2776
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:25:00 -
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Surge Roth wrote:Keeping your mwds on all the time to increase your sig radius to near carrier levels with the hp of a battlecruiser deserves to get shot down by a lone titan without any fleet members, but let's be honest here. That don't happen. Freak accidents don't count either.
because every engagement has been against a lone titan lmao
look how clueless and disconnected you are from reality! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2783
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Posted - 2012.03.14 02:53:00 -
[138] - Quote
pubbies whining about ships they will never afford :shobon: "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2783
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:00:00 -
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Krutoj wrote:Surge Roth wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Krutoj wrote:So now titans cant lock fast enough or track. Whats the point of locking anything at all other than structures and supercaps if it cant be tracked in the first place? Every Titan nerf that CCP has done has been to lessen the impact Titans have on subcaps. Obviously, CCP doesn't want people using unsupported Titans to fight subcaps. Take their hint, adapt your strategies and be happy in life. You guys could of done the same without crying for nerfs. But here we are. Apperently 100 titans in game are ungodly more strong than any alliance or CCP in this game. Since the previous nerf, titans have no impact on the large scale fights and very rarely on small gangs, so I dont even know where the above statement about "impact" is coming from. And yes, lets nerf minority more, because majority has no brains to fight them.
specnaz aren't supposed to give a ****
specnaz are supposed to snap necks and slit throats "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2783
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:02:00 -
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Surge Roth wrote:You could take the easy road and just bring more caps. Oh wait, you guys refuse to actually do that lol. Instead, you guys continue to deploy the same doctrines that lose to these things expecting a different result.
look at the clueless pubbie act like he's not )) "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2783
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:02:00 -
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Ruthless Erection wrote:[quote=Andski]Loving this.[/quote
You would because you're a ****** Goon. Your sole purpose in EVE is to destroy it
CCP, this is a terrible idea. There are so many other ways you could balance titans
But if you insist upon this ******** "balancing", bring AoE Doomsday back then
We have TiDi, AoE doomsday won't be nearly as bad as it used to be
But I'm beginning to think that CCP no longer runs this game, and that Goons dictate what they want to happen, and it does. -A- cried about Doomsdaying of sub-capitals, BAM. No more doomsdaying sub-caps. Goons are crying about titans, and their "OPness", BAM. Titans get "nerfed"
First observation, Goons have more titans/supers than all of Raiden, PL, NCdot, and other alliances, put together. They CHOOSE to not use them, so why must you punish those who do use them
You've removed drone bays, you've removed sub-cap doomsday'ing, a deal wiz it
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2783
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:03:00 -
[142] - Quote
please keep suggesting AoE doomsdays as a good idea, we'll immediately cynojam every system we own and multiple doomsday every cynojammer sieging fleet "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:06:00 -
[143] - Quote
Ruthless Erection wrote:Andski wrote:please keep suggesting AoE doomsdays as a good idea, we'll immediately cynojam every system we own and multiple doomsday every cynojammer sieging fleet But you're Goons, the people who ***** and moan about capitals, but keep deploying sub-caps. Oh btw dumbass, can't doomsday sub-capitals. But i like your thinking, shows that 99.99%, i mean 100% of Goons are flat out ********.
reading is hard "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:06:00 -
[144] - Quote
unless you're saying that they should bring back AoE doomsdays and restrict them to doing damage to capitals ahahahahaha "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:07:00 -
[145] - Quote
Ruthless Erection wrote:can't doomsday sub-capitals
yep and guess why? owned "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:08:00 -
[146] - Quote
Ruthless Erection wrote:Andski wrote:Ruthless Erection wrote:Andski wrote:please keep suggesting AoE doomsdays as a good idea, we'll immediately cynojam every system we own and multiple doomsday every cynojammer sieging fleet But you're Goons, the people who ***** and moan about capitals, but keep deploying sub-caps. Oh btw dumbass, can't doomsday sub-capitals. But i like your thinking, shows that 99.99%, i mean 100% of Goons are flat out ********. reading is hard /wrist then. I'll supply the razor :)
yes, proceed to cut yourself "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:08:00 -
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Tobruk wrote:List of more intelligent solutions to super-cap balancing:
1) Tell goon-swarm to field 300 dreads instead of 600 drakes 2) Nerf Fighter Bombers and Improve Dread EHP, then Tell goon-swarm to field 300 dreads instead of 600 drakes 3) Reduce Titan tracking by 25%, making them dependent on T3 support to hit sub-caps, sub-caps that could be killed by 600 drakes 4) Reduce Tracking by 50% 5) Reduce tracking by 50% and lock time by 20%
List of changes most beneficial to GSF:
1) Reduce tracking by 50% and lock time by 20% 2) Reduce Tracking by 50% 3) Reduce Titan tracking by 25%, making them dependent on T3 support to hit sub-caps, sub-caps that could be killed by 600 drakes 4) Nerf Fighter Bombers and Improve Dread EHP, then Tell goon-swarm to field 300 dreads instead of 600 drakes 5) Tell goon-swarm to field 300 dreads instead of 600 drakes
List of Pandemic Legion Employees of CCP:
List of GSF employees of CCP: CCP DARIUS JOHNSON
List of Pandemic Legion CSM Delegates:
List of GSF CSM Delegates: Vile Rat
List of Pandemic Legion CSM Chairmen:
List of GSF CSM Chairmen: The Mittani
Something smells like rotten shark.
You forgot CCP Soundwave, he's ex-goonswarm
didn't you know???? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:10:00 -
[148] - Quote
point out how fighterbombers were nerfed because they still work fine? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:13:00 -
[149] - Quote
Takashi Kaeda wrote:Right Elise is totally not in PL. Right. Also confirming Soundwave and Screegs value internet spaceship honour over their own personal welfare.
jesus christ get out.
you're thinking "Seleene" aka CCP Abathur aka I CREATED DOMINION LOL "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:14:00 -
[150] - Quote
i too can change words in quotes like a 12 year old "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:16:00 -
[151] - Quote
Triskian wrote:Goddamnit people, stop posting so fast.
bad posters can't keep pace with me "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:17:00 -
[152] - Quote
Surge Roth wrote:I'm simply voicing an opposite opinion from what all of goon swarm, coincidently, agree on. Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean make me you any more right.
posting like an autistic manchild doesn't make you right either lmao "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:17:00 -
[153] - Quote
full spectrum spergin "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:23:00 -
[154] - Quote
Surge Roth wrote:I understand that a bunch of bees want to change the game to their favor in the name of balance when nothing was broken to begin with except for their poor decision making I understand that a bunch of pubbies are opposed to any changes to hulls that they will never afford "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:23:00 -
[155] - Quote
Zonja Vjeter wrote:well done CCP for doing what the GOONS wanted how u just handed EVE over to GOONS i call this total BS......
you're only making us stronger~~ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:25:00 -
[156] - Quote
Surge Roth wrote:Showing your ignorance once again?
why are you worried about ships you'll never have??? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:27:00 -
[157] - Quote
Surge Roth wrote:Takashi Kaeda wrote:Surge Roth wrote:
I understand that a bunch of bees want to change the game to their favor in the name of balance when nothing was broken to begin with except for their poor decision making
Even Shadoo has chimed in agreeing that Titans are ******. Still doesn't change the fact that this change is unjustified.
yes you are clearly much more knowledgeable about titans than Shadoo, one of the best FCs in the game (if not the best) "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:29:00 -
[158] - Quote
Tobruk wrote:Shadoo is an idiot who will say anything to gain anti-pl brownie points.
The truth is Instead of encouraging Capital and Super-capital expansion, your CEO decided to fly battleships. Instead of fixing his mistake he decided it would be easier to game the system.
guess he was right.
looks like your spies suck because Mittens has encouraged goons to get into supercaps
shame that we can't compete with three alliances that scoop up literally every warm body that can fly a supercap (i lawled at the dudes who lost supercap clones with +3s and no hardwirings) "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:30:00 -
[159] - Quote
Surge Roth wrote:The guy who cries like a man child over vent when things go hay wire?
I'm sure you're a much more talented FC than he is but you should probably post with your main so we can believe you!!!! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:36:00 -
[160] - Quote
SuperBeastie wrote:Andski wrote:Surge Roth wrote:Takashi Kaeda wrote:Surge Roth wrote:
I understand that a bunch of bees want to change the game to their favor in the name of balance when nothing was broken to begin with except for their poor decision making
Even Shadoo has chimed in agreeing that Titans are ******. Still doesn't change the fact that this change is unjustified. yes you are clearly much more knowledgeable about titans than Shadoo, one of the best FCs in the game (if not the best) Shadoo owns a leviathan he has not creditability when speaking about super caps.
Shadoo's leviathan dates back to the days of AoE doomsdays when nobody tanked kinetic damage and they'd get 0wnzoned
you got a titan a week ago or whatever and you're whining about spending isk on a hull you knew was going to be nerfed (( "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:36:00 -
[161] - Quote
Surge Roth wrote:Posting with mains doesn't give anyone more credibility. Especially in a video game. I prefer to keep my "main" out of these activities because I know the kind of sociopaths that play this game. Never mind the fact my peers may think I might be giving them a bad rep. Keep assuming things though. It brings a smile to my face when you guys are wrong.
"I make bad posts, I don't want my scrubcorp to realize that I'm an awful poster" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:40:00 -
[162] - Quote
Surge Roth wrote:Andski wrote:Surge Roth wrote:Posting with mains doesn't give anyone more credibility. Especially in a video game. I prefer to keep my "main" out of these activities because I know the kind of sociopaths that play this game. Never mind the fact my peers may think I might be giving them a bad rep. Keep assuming things though. It brings a smile to my face when you guys are wrong. "I make bad posts, I don't want my scrubcorp to realize that I'm an awful poster" I'm not a bad poster. Talking about controversial topics always makes people uncomfortable. Fortunately for you, you don't have to worry about such things because goonswarm is filled with scrublord hooligans who don't care about anything.
did you get recruitment scammed or did your mackinaw get blown up?
j/w "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:41:00 -
[163] - Quote
Surge Roth wrote:Want to know the truth?
Enlighten me. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:44:00 -
[164] - Quote
Surge Roth wrote:Andski wrote:Surge Roth wrote:Want to know the truth? Enlighten me. I'll only tell you, in game personally, if you can show me you're a trust worthy person. The only way I can think of is by sending me 900 million isk. I'll give it back. I promise!
Send me 450m and I'll double it. No troll. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2784
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:46:00 -
[165] - Quote
I'll pay you 1.8b through The Mittani then "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2788
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Posted - 2012.03.14 04:14:00 -
[166] - Quote
this thread has been my plaything for 64 pages
alas, friends, i cannot continue as I must catch some sleep
(dance, puppets) "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2811
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Posted - 2012.03.14 04:50:00 -
[167] - Quote
Spurty wrote:Titans no longer FOTM shocker.
New FOTM, bring x 3 to x 5 the number of ships to every fight.
Can we please get hit points on ALL ships 1/2'ed or even dropped to 1/3 now (don't change anything else!)
Feel free to balance this by increasing structure hitpoints.
Happy days :-0
nah the new FOTM is "join ncdot and moan about your titan being nerfed"
i mean you wouldn't have to worry about that, you're definitely not an FOTM chaser, right? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2821
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Posted - 2012.03.14 05:16:00 -
[168] - Quote
Grath Telkin wrote:MY titan
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2821
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Posted - 2012.03.14 05:35:00 -
[169] - Quote
Acwron wrote:I see a quick solution :
All should ally against goons and wipe them off Eve map. We have 1 month, maybe less. Titan blob them until we hear mittani and his sheep crying for mercy.
I think you're going to have your hands full soon heh "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2824
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Posted - 2012.03.14 05:40:00 -
[170] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:Christ this thread is still going? It is the same 3-5 **** posters for the last 20 pages. CCP please moderate this thread already.
Why? They'll remove a lot of the titan pilot tears which deserve preservation. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2825
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Posted - 2012.03.14 05:52:00 -
[171] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:I see a quick solution :
All should ally against goons and wipe them off Eve map. We have 1 month, maybe less. Titan blob them until we hear mittani and his sheep crying for mercy. I think you're going to have your hands full soon heh have fun losing nyxes to roaming gangs scrub huehuehue I wonder if you play the game or read forums all day. My wild guess is that you only read forums. Fine by me. Then let us play the game and drop dead. We don't need you anyway.
dual monitors son
maybe you'd have them if you didn't spend all your $$ ebaying supers "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2826
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:00:00 -
[172] - Quote
Turns out that failheap badposters see owning everyone like a boss as "spurging" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2827
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:09:00 -
[173] - Quote
Roffle Lawler wrote:Andski wrote:Turns out that failheap badposters see owning everyone like a boss as "spurging" Maybe if you spent more time playing eve and less time shittrolling on eve-o you'd realize just how broken it is that CFC can bring more people in a more organized and better fleet doctrine and now a few guys in Titans can't blapblap them off the field.
What can I say? The metagame keeps me subbed ;p "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2829
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:16:00 -
[174] - Quote
Acwron wrote:I got 3 monitors...GOTCHA ! LOL
it's a SANDBOX, no rules in EVE ! Scams all around ! But hey, wait ! What's that big thing in front of me? ****, killed me ! What is it? Titan? Freaking hell, now I want rules ! I don't want that big thing to kill me ! I don't care if he trained for years and spend alot of isk to fly it ! I want it nerfed now ! TEARS, TEARS and MORE TEARS !
Switch to tetris noob, no one will kill you there. Hopefully.
Coming from the nub who got scammed by the CEO of Goonswarm and proceeded to petition it and create a whine thread to get laughed at in, this is hilarious. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2834
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:29:00 -
[175] - Quote
Triskian wrote:I have 3 1600p monitors. Dell U3011s. :smuggo:
~the one percent~ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2834
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:32:00 -
[176] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:I got 3 monitors...GOTCHA ! LOL
it's a SANDBOX, no rules in EVE ! Scams all around ! But hey, wait ! What's that big thing in front of me? ****, killed me ! What is it? Titan? Freaking hell, now I want rules ! I don't want that big thing to kill me ! I don't care if he trained for years and spend alot of isk to fly it ! I want it nerfed now ! TEARS, TEARS and MORE TEARS !
Switch to tetris noob, no one will kill you there. Hopefully. Coming from the nub who got scammed by the CEO of Goonswarm and proceeded to petition it and create a whine thread to get laughed at in, this is hilarious. Funny but the bad guy ain't me. Guess who is then.
So I take it that the scammer logged into your account and ejected from the Nyx? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2837
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:44:00 -
[177] - Quote
Hey Acwron I guess I'm giving you a bit of a hard time since it looks like you actually use your Ragnarok to support subcaps rather than in the middle of the nonexistent Vera Cruz titan blob, but you should blame the guys who used their titans in the most risk-averse fashion imaginable rather than the players who advocated for reductions in their capabilities.
also stop blaming the mittani because you fell for a scam, i'm sure you've botted that isk right back up anyway "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2838
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:48:00 -
[178] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Andski wrote:Hey Acwron I guess I'm giving you a bit of a hard time since it looks like you actually use your Ragnarok to support subcaps rather than in the middle of the nonexistent Vera Cruz titan blob, but you should blame the guys who used their titans in the most risk-averse fashion imaginable rather than the players who advocated for reductions in their capabilities.
also stop blaming the mittani because you fell for a scam, i'm sure you've botted that isk right back up anyway Would you bet all your isk on it? CCP is the 3rd party, ok ?
I put my deposit in "CCP Engineering Alliance" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2842
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Posted - 2012.03.14 07:10:00 -
[179] - Quote
Titan Keeper 22 wrote:p.s. this one's to help those trolls talking about posting in alts out; most of Goonswarm and their pets' titan pilots are obviously posting with their alts to argue about the nerf then come back to troll about it. this is common sense.(PL Raiden NC. have no reason to post with their alts; why would they bother protecting their opposing side? oh unless they're planning to join the other side later on that is.)
Raiden guy wrote:Also stop crying in the EVEo forums, its exactly what the goons are craving for. If you need to go mental, do it with out of alliance alt "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2842
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Posted - 2012.03.14 07:17:00 -
[180] - Quote
Crystal Wolf wrote:Listening to the "majority" usually does make sense however all CCP are doing is hurting one group of the playerbase by aiding another. Granted it would be almost impossible to create a solution that both groups are happy with but they can do better than this. only one ship class should be relevant in eve online "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2869
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Posted - 2012.03.14 13:58:00 -
[181] - Quote
Acwron wrote:They develop what we want cos we pay for the game. If it's to be as you want, will be if you have the majority. And probably you have. Still doesn't mean you're right. You are just more than us.
Deal with it. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2869
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:04:00 -
[182] - Quote
Hans Roaming wrote:Thanks for confirming my decision not to train for supercaps was a good one CCP.
Why shouldn't Titans be able to hit MWD'ng drakes with sig's the size of moons?
Technology advantage has always been a counter to pure numbers throughout history. Bringing numbers to a fight in Eve has always been a problem compounded by the fact that ships fire magically pass through any non targets in the way without causing damage.
If fleets in large numbers had to actually manoeuvre in order to bring DPS onto a target then the blob would be less advantageous than it would be now.
Game balance. Maybe you'd understand the need for it if your PvP experience consisted of something other than nopod ~honour~ matches in hisec. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2869
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:06:00 -
[183] - Quote
Acwron wrote:Especially drake and maelstrom pilots by any chance ?
and cynabal pilots who die to titans that solocamp gates "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2869
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:09:00 -
[184] - Quote
Franklin D Roosevelt wrote:Andski, have you had social time with Eve devs? Is this why you got the recruitment channel rules changed almost immediately after you demanded it? What is your relationship with CCP beyond just playing the game?
I had a beer with Soundwave and Greyscale several months back, interestingly enough "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:14:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:Dear very important space ship personality,
the main purpose of AE DD was obviously to kill subcaps in large numbers. The main purpose of focused DD was clearly to be able to kill every ship with one shot (including subcaps).
So as you can see the idea that supercaps should be a pure anti-capital weapon is rather new.
However, I do like that this was changed and do think that supercaps still need balancing. Making them useless is not the solution though.
Yes they should revert titans to the way they were originally added, AoE doomsdays coming through a kestrel cyno
sad lil pubbie "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:17:00 -
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Sanders RUS wrote:So dreads and supercaps are anti structure ships within the current nullsec warring. So titans are just supposed to sit around and wait for someone to shoot structures?
I feel that nerfing supers to uselessness is rather myopic will only lead to less dynamic gameplay. There needs to be an ability to counter titans, but fights should not be reduced to who can field the most subcaps. I think that is a poor direction especially for pilots who have spent years training into these ships and want them to be used. However, CCP seems ok with saying to the 800 or so titan pilots that they would much rather keep their subcap customers happy (even though must of them have no clue about capital combat or why a titan could blap a MWDing drake).
To me this general direction is bad for eve online, tracking probably needed a nerf, but now it'll take 18 seconds to even lock another titan with three cormack sebos's (Who the hell balances around 3 meta 14 sebos?). Base Titan scanres will be a third of a sieged dreadnaught. I feel that taken together with the previous nerfs CCP is driving titan pilots to mothball their ships. Theres really no significant reason to fly a titan and the only thing they have to look forward to is some vague promise of changes down the road. Well Ive seen how long it takes CCP to get back to things like gallente ship balancing or faction warfare and Im not to keen on waiting around that long for titans to be useful again.
This wasnt something so critical that it needed to be addressed outside of a thoughtful look at the ship and its role in fleets.
we both know you bought your character with enthusiastically ratted ISK "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:25:00 -
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Le Cardinal wrote:Cut the crap will you. This adjustment is a shortterm solution to stagger the whining of all the goons whom are unable to think outside the Alphadoctrine box. PL and RDN have given them easy solutions on how to kill titans. And yet they keep throwing drakes and maelstroms at the titans. So they go to devs and ask for help. And how surprising is it that CCP yet again does a half-assed hotifx that gimps the titans ability to work properly against anything. By the time you manage to clean your brown nose, goons will infact reach many of their objectives through sheer numbers. Nothing else will matter.
And again you prove that your "humble" attitude last year is worth nothing to those whom can actually fly supercaps as long as the voices from those who cant be arsed to get one is heard. RDN does not give out supercaps to its members. Losses are reimbursed however.
So basically you are shafting the people who has been working their arses off to achieve these ships. Yes im a bit pissed. Not because this patch affect us quite much, but because devs let goons control their game.
it's not like this change should come at a surprise
/maybe/ basing your entire alliance around the concept of dogpiling all the high-skillpoint bittervets you can hoover up and ushering them into titans wasn't the most optimal plan
also - your alliance doesn't get its members into titans? yet you criticize GSF for not doing the same, while we heavily subsidize members who buy them? tell me all about how it's our tech income that gets RMTed. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2869
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:27:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:This is bullsh!t and you all know it. A titan should be able to track all ships. It's biggest, therefore it has to be best.
-- Sincerely, Death Star.
nope
sincerely, me "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2869
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:28:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:just came to check if andski was still sperging
exciting life you lead br0
watching your blues melt down in this thread has made my day ;p
keep spergin ;p "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2870
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:34:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Andski wrote:Hannott Thanos wrote:This is bullsh!t and you all know it. A titan should be able to track all ships. It's biggest, therefore it has to be best.
-- Sincerely, Death Star. nope sincerely, me Someone did not get the joke? :)
i have a hangover so yeah i kinda missed it "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:35:00 -
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Roime wrote:As a general note an adjustment that benefits a single entity over others isn't probably a "balancing" adjustment at all. Why only Goonswarm members are gloating happy about this change, and everyone else in null seems to be butthurt as hell? Maybe needs some more thinking, imo, just by looking at the reactions. Quote:If 1600 people show up to take someone's space, and they can only field 200 guys, then THEY DO NOT DESERVE THAT SPACE. This is how the world works. You should not magically be allowed to pick space and control it because you can stick 50 guys into a super ship, and stand it up to 1600 people. Why should 1600 be the magic win button? It would be cool to play a game where the better pilots win, you know, a bit like it is in small gang combat.
I'd say it's more indicative of the current state of nullsec - it's dominated by three powerblocs. Two of them, the CFC and Awagon, despise tracking titans. The other loves them. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2870
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:36:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:They were originally designed as the ultimate anti-blob weapon. Dont even try that god damn Goon proaganda with me you god damn useless piece of sh*t.
Current Titan and supercarrier capabilities against subcaps have existed since Dominion. They werent important enough to nerf even when playing an instrumental role in toppling the Northern Coalition, a conglomerate of tens of thousands of players. But it became top priority once the Goons themselves were under threat. So in two passes, first back in december and now in April they get nerfed into oblivion. Wonder why? Oh scratch that. I dont really wonder why.
don't talk down to your betters, please.
also why do you think the ability to doomsday through a cyno was removed? good god "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2870
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:38:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:Andski wrote:John Maynard Keynes wrote:Dear very important space ship personality,
the main purpose of AE DD was obviously to kill subcaps in large numbers. The main purpose of focused DD was clearly to be able to kill every ship with one shot (including subcaps).
So as you can see the idea that supercaps should be a pure anti-capital weapon is rather new.
However, I do like that this was changed and do think that supercaps still need balancing. Making them useless is not the solution though.
Yes they should revert titans to the way they were originally added, AoE doomsdays coming through a kestrel cyno sad lil pubbie You can read reight? Made it bold for you... John Maynard Keynes wrote: However, I do like that this was changed and do think that supercaps still need balancing. Making them useless is not the solution though.
You're insisting that the way to balance supers is to make sure they can blap subcaps with impunity because that was their original intent, in 2005, when it was assumed they'd be rare. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2870
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:40:00 -
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Le Cardinal wrote:A change is needed indeed, but this is as i said, an half arsed attempt to stagger your whining until they manage to think out a new function for them. And we all know CCPs ability to fix things properly. My alliances members get themselves into titans by working for it. Your alliance dont encourage your members to be competitive in anything else than drakes and maelstroms. You have the funds, and ability to reimburse losses, if you just used them. Instead you turn to the devs and cry.
Fyi, you dont need to be so highskilled in order to fly a titan. Training for maelstroms and drakes goes pretty fast. How about training a second account for supercaps, or even use an alt on same account. After all you have "bittervets" in goons as well, and since your recruiting everyone and their mother you should be able to muster a decent supportfleet along with supercaps.
we actually do reimburse titans and supercarriers, oops
get better spies bro, should be easy since we recruit everyone and their mother right??? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2870
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:43:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:Sat on eve-o drinkin' beer, posting on forums
we got a badass over here
hey which titan do you have and how do you feel about being hazed with a pos ornament?????
lmao "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2872
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:45:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:Please be honest,
many people consider artillery to be broken (especially people who get ganked in high-sec). What would be your reaction if CCP says: "We think artillery doesn't work the way it should, we will thus reduce its falloff by 50% as well as its alpha. This is not the final solution and we don't like it but atm the moment we don't have the ressources to fix it properly. And until we find ressources to deal with it --> go and **** yourselfes"
oh no our battleships got nerfed we might have to fly one of the other 30 hulls that can take their place "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:47:00 -
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Le Cardinal wrote:Seriously. half of the posts in this thread is yours. Do you even have a life?
look at you going all ad hominem because you totally have a life mister "i spent months ratting to buy my titan" lmao "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2872
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:59:00 -
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Acwron wrote:OMG, really? You are really, really disturbed son. So we paid a little more iskie...just a little. A LITTLE ? You come with 1600 maels and wanna kill 50 titans?
Man, I'd like to have what this guy smoked, seems to be good shite.
tbh there's easier ways of relieving you of a titan than killing it "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2873
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:15:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:Ok lets talk fair, why should a sub cap even be able to damage a Titan... if you NEEDED to field capitals to hurt titans this might not be so bad. But you want to be able to kill them and hold them down. Without ever risking anything yourself, like your own cap fleet....
you also need to use dictors, which tend to get oneshotted "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2876
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:37:00 -
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Gertrud ToD wrote:http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/memberCount
confirming that every single character in our alliance is an individual account belonging to an individual player and is capable of fielding a maelstrom "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:44:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:And lets be honest here a titan on its own atm can't even defend itself vs one dictor/HIC.
I think it's /fairly/ reasonable that a solo titan should be extremely vulnerable against a dictor or HIC, don't you agree? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:44:00 -
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Dasdraperma wrote:Looks like Goons have forum CTA today, defending this nerf? :)
goons, a bunch of dudes coming from a forum, are posting
what a shock "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:49:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:Andski wrote:BioZvin wrote:And lets be honest here a titan on its own atm can't even defend itself vs one dictor/HIC. I think it's /fairly/ reasonable that a solo titan should be extremely vulnerable against a dictor or HIC, don't you agree? Why should it be more than a BS vs a interceptor.
Anything that can fit a point/scram can tackle a battleship. Only a dictor/hictor can tackle a titan. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:13:00 -
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The Economist wrote:What an amazing pile of steaming **** based on lies, misconceptions and endless exagerration. The situation presented as being responded to simply doesn't represent reality, but rather the deluded and deliberately misleading view of a vocal minority and those who don't know any better.
You, however, should know better CCP.
I can only hope this is laying the groundwork for an epic early April fools joke as opposed to being a concerted effort to bore all titan pilots into never logging in again (except for those wierdos who genuinely enjoy doing nothing but bridging).
Wow, just wow.
I'm glad the vocal majority is well aware of the capabilities of tracking-fit titans and finds their ability to bring 0.0 combat to a halt perfectly balanced ;p "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:14:00 -
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FeLiZk wrote:Better to restart the server, would that be fair enough for you.
Risk / Reward anyone ever heard this concept, thought it was what this game was suppose to be based on.
Yes you risk all of your titans when you drop them en masse ahahah "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:34:00 -
[206] - Quote
I agree. If you disagree with this nerf, unsub now!
and don't come back "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:41:00 -
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FeLiZk wrote:So we risk 20 titan, just by fielding them.
Your post fell apart here. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:45:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:For your information. I have posted repeatedly on this forums that the titan blob needs a fix. What I dont like is HOW it is fixed. So why dont you shut the f*ck up you useless piece of sh*t. I'm sure Stoffer are eagerly awaiting the blowjob you promised him. You dont want to disappoint. Have a good fanfest.
fyi this guy thinks i'm getting inside information from CCP because I interpreted this post as an incoming titan tracking nerf. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:50:00 -
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FeLiZk wrote:Ser Berus wrote:
a bloo bloo bloo we actually have to field a balanced fleet
LOL Balanced is lots of one ship type, drakes or maelstroms ?
a fleet of maelstroms (or drakes), scimitars, huginns, lachesis, dictors, hictors, and interceptors is just one big blob of maelstroms "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:56:00 -
[210] - Quote
nerf blocs that can form full fleets at the drop of a hat because they're dishonourable and keep their members engaged in the game "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:58:00 -
[211] - Quote
this is a callout for the mittani
how dare you run a coalition that provides game content for thousands of real players! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2907
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:08:00 -
[212] - Quote
Reilly Duvolle wrote:If we in this thread had both sides scream bloody murder at CCP, they would have known they had found a solution that wasnt horribly favouring one side. Instead we have the Goons acting like they f*cking saved EVE. That tells me all I need to know.
lmao this dumb pubbie honestly believes that CCP gives a **** about the "balance of power" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2907
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:13:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Tippia wrote:MeBiatch wrote:i cant wait for stackable RR and damage applied penilties... the goon tears are going to be epic! You mean those things that have already been hinted at, and which most sane people will already be planning for? ah and that is where your logic fails you asume that goons are sane...
we do know that you have an extra chromosome because of your blatant abuse of ellipses, pubbie "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2910
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:21:00 -
[214] - Quote
John Maynard Keynes wrote:The Mittani wrote:John Maynard Keynes wrote:The Mittani wrote:FeLiZk wrote:On a side note I think it is so funny Goons are complaining about being blobbed, what is not funny is CCP is listening.
Change Titans by all means but don't do it for them. And don't rush it for them. You yourself are to blame; you and your fellows refuse to accept responsibility for your own misbehavior. Typical. Would also please tell Greyscale to balance the blob when you are having beers with him next time? Greyscale and I can't stand each other. And he doesn't drink. I'm sorry that you - hiding, ashamed, behind the anonymity of an npc alt - are unwilling to face up to your own comeuppance. This is happening because of your misdeeds, your obvious culpability. And you're hiding behind straw men and trying - desperately so! - to deflect the consequences of your actions. You blapped, and now you got blapped. Perhaps if you hadn't misused Titans in the first place, this nerf wouldn't have had to happen. For god's sake, could someone plz translate this? English is not my first language and this guy speaks like a law professor from Harvard.
"Post with your main" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2914
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:26:00 -
[215] - Quote
FeLiZk wrote:btw Titan need an out of context fix and tech does not ? tech doesn't have a "quick fix" or "stop-gap measure" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2914
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:27:00 -
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Daiony wrote:Please rotate moonmining materials monthly, galaxywide. Resourcevaults get depleted and new ones get discovered.
this is an idea held by horrible people who have never scanned a single constellation full of moons
:condi: "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2914
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:32:00 -
[217] - Quote
FeLiZk wrote:Andski wrote:FeLiZk wrote:btw Titan need an out of context fix and tech does not ? tech doesn't have a "quick fix" or "stop-gap measure" off cause it does. your kidding me right, you just have to not care what happens if you do it... you make 500 ish of the moons in empire/low sec tech that was gas before. Done
you mean increasing the abundance of technetium? I dunno, that's a pretty silly approach, and it'd just boost neo to hell "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2914
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:34:00 -
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Daiony wrote:Work for your wealth, kid. Or get your Dev friends to change the scan mechanics for moons. Whats the problem?
hey maybe you should stop being a clueless pubbie and realize the economic effects of a moon rotation
let me simplify it for you: t2 market goes to hell every n weeks "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2918
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:49:00 -
[219] - Quote
Variable1 wrote:I don't see any mega threads about abuse of Apha Maels, and how having 400-700 of them in one mega fleet is somehow 'ok', but fielding 20 titans is not..
get the people in your alliance who can assemble coherent sentences to start a thread about it then "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:54:00 -
[220] - Quote
FeLiZk wrote:Well we are taking a tech moon back atm. with our massive 50 titans
digging your own grave "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2919
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:56:00 -
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lroh wrote:Thank you CCP, now i don't have to play for 4 years to eventualy get the skills to fly a SC/Titan and get to the "end game" stage. Now i only have to train for Carrier and be done quicker to go play the next mmo
you have nothing to worry about, not like you can camp the jita 4-4 undock with a titan "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 21:05:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:this is not even a effective nerf stop freaking out guys and throw two auto targeting system II in the high and lock up 9 people and blap away.
great, go play BF3 with your ncdot buddies and complain about eve being a bad game where titans are no longer the only relevant ships "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 22:54:00 -
[223] - Quote
Mioelnir wrote:original goons
i love how idiots still believe this crap "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 23:02:00 -
[224] - Quote
i wonder why gordon cain (aka ~the supremacy~) jumped from that sinking ship "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 23:15:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:dreads are missing thier two best friends...
one is the juggernaut a capital ship that uses capital nuets/nos captal cap injectors and an infinity point when in siege...
two is a shipt like the bc that is the size of a frieghter that are like t3 bc's... make them use oversized guns but does not have seige... so it uses 8 turrets but has the tank of a tier 1 bs.... that way a gallente one using 3 mag stabs will do about 3500 dps each...
yes let's shelve hictors and require capitals to tackle titans
"hmm how do i shake off this <3m ehp tackler" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 23:29:00 -
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again how do you propose that 50 titans shake off 10 "juggers" that nobody will fly because ahaha stupid gimmicks
try to answer that with less than 20 ellipses in one sentence "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 23:33:00 -
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i realize that highsec pubbies who post with npc alts to avoid wardecs over awful posts don't understand how 0.0 combat works, so please take your excellent ideas to F&I "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.14 23:39:00 -
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Balderic Lunacy wrote:I will be turning off my account and personally using Greyscale as a replacement for C * nt.
stuff? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 23:56:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Andski wrote:again how do you propose that 50 titans shake off 10 "juggers" that nobody will fly because ahaha stupid gimmicks
try to answer that with less than 20 ellipses in one sentence say i happen to like ellipses so meh get used to it... as for how would 50 titans shake these things off is... if all you brought is 50 titans and no support you deserve to go down in a blaze of glory... yeah i also expect the game mechanics to be changed to add a diminishing returns for stacked applied damage and remote repair... so alpha fleets wont be able to stack 400 maels alpha and be more effective then 40 maels alpha... man the ellipses must really irk you as for you ad hominem/ straw man argument about my alleged play style and/or history... i have only one word to say to you! FREGE!
the answer you're looking for is "they'd get doomsdayed" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.15 00:19:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:i remember before titans got boosted you had fights with like 400 dreads... i think if you came with 300 dreads and 100 juggers you could take on the titan blob.... in the first min 50 ships die! but then the juggers nuet the hell out of the sc's and titans and then no more rr or ddd's.... especially if you got (t3bc like ships that are the gap between bs's and cap ships that are the size of freighters, so they can go threw gates) that use capital weapons...
juggers
you already came up with pubbie shorthand for a ship type that will never exist because it's dumb "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
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Titan Keeper 22 wrote:a bloo bloo bloo
i'm sorry that our alliance policy was never to recruit every mouthbreather with a pulse and a titan
this thread has shown that your sorry excuse for an alliance depended entirely on broken game mechanics to prop itself up - we'll see if you can disprove that "soon" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Katalci wrote:Titans were balanced just fine before this awful change. What is their combat use over a supercarrier, now?
dunno the ability to apply 3 million alpha is pretty significant "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Vonce forthelulz wrote:One can argue that this is a good end point for the titan class, but making this change as an immediate, entirely class-nerfing release drastically changes the balance of 0.0 power-blocks and sends a bad message about the role of the CSM.
"our success can't rely entirely on broken ships anymore" is not "drastically changing the balance of 0.0 powerblocs" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 01:56:00 -
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with raiden's high skillpoint concentration and ability to adapt to a changing combat environment I am sure that they will continue to fight us just fine
right? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 02:57:00 -
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NPC alts "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 03:16:00 -
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just checked and my posts make up 10% of this thread
what up "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Balderic Lunacy wrote:Your right. A Titan is not the end game for everyone. But you are a fool if you think that the majority of pilots do not view it as such.
The game is ever changing and evolving, but until you show me something beyond a Titan then that is the ceiling.
How is that any different from being "another dude in a battleship?" You're just in a bigger ship.
Some people see FCing as their end-game. Others see alliance leadership as their end-game. Your end-game is nothing more than an extension of "press F1." "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 04:12:00 -
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titan keeper's posts are why titans should be nerfed to the ground in ~iterations~ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 04:21:00 -
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real life war analogies, won't be long before Titan Keeper 22 starts quoting Sun Tzu "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 05:56:00 -
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Titan Keeper 22 wrote:gets explained by mittani that all of those isk are for reimbursing combat ships. but i payed for the ship and the modules to pvp and i get insurance that covers more than half of the price of the loss!
tell me more about t2 hulls being fully insured "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 05:57:00 -
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"Won't CCP think of the new players? Everyone skills into titans!" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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105 pages and we've so far seen these arguments:
- but they're expensive and take forever to build and skill into - but eve needs an end-game - i agree that titan tracking is out of whack but GOONS - how else is my failing alliance going to kill fleets 5-10 times as large as ours - CCP is screwing over their veterans because everyone above an arbitrary number of skillpoints owns titans - my titan keeps getting nerfed please stop - there is no problem with titan tracking, i can say this objectively from the perspective of my hisec welfare incursions - reimburse my isk and skillpoints because my 50 million ehp portable stargate with a doomsday is useless
all we need now are some sun tzu quotes, ww2 analogies and it's hi5s all around "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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bl4ckL0tus wrote:how about instead of nerfing titans that much (tracking should be enough) removing tech moons or rather spreading them acros the galaxy .. this way maybe goonies that fly only 100 mils ships tops wont cry about getting a beat from high-skilled players that used the ultimate ship. I myself wanted to fly a titan now jst got one and trained like over a year skills and now all this dream is gone cos suddenly its jst something u show to friends that come over ... whos going to pay me back for everything i invested to got to this point? Also why dont ure making some t2 dreads or something that can fight them and maybe even goons can afford from their 1k+ 2-300 of this to fight (btw i heard their fcs lacks balls and jst wants to shoot structures with their super fleet on a diff timezone then the enemy) to match others ... Also when i started this game i wanted to see jove unlock that hasnt happened so far. Also a rumour was that drone regions will be nerfed if u do this faster and tech moon spreading even big alliances will have problems getting supers so easy. Peace
Goonswarm is buying back titans. Contact me. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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bl4ckL0tus wrote:lol @ Andski ... when i wanted to buy it like alotof goons tried their scam scheme all over again ... witth their scamming leader who says hes representing players right @ ccp .. ROFL scamming is not allowed in eve online you should petition that
ahahahahahahaha "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:06:00 -
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bl4ckL0tus wrote:except cyst arent the ultimate cool thing in a videogame that others have but not use against enemies and cry in their corner
feel free to return to WoW if you believe that the "ultimate cool thing in a videogame" is an entitlement to unopposed one-sided victories in every engagement "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:13:00 -
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bl4ckL0tus wrote:its a game with many ships and u can counter them u jst want to use cheap stuff to kill the game
alright since you're clearly the expert on these matters tell me exactly how to counter 30 tracking titans
don't say dreads because trying to kill titans with the very ships they are designed to counter is an idea i'd expect from a toddler "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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bl4ckL0tus wrote:the market value of a tit worth 5 combat fitted nyx-es ... wich lets say u dont get 5 u get 3-4 u could kill them 2 much dps from fb ... insted of getting more of those u like dieing in loads of subcaps over and over againd and cry imbalance...
if you think that the only counter to a ship is an ISK equivalent in smaller ships you are pretty helpless
hmm i think i should fit estamel's ~adaptive~ invulns on a drake and i should effortlessly kill supercarriers
also the market value is so far off from the actual cost of the ship by almost two times "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:25:00 -
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bl4ckL0tus wrote:one wise man once said : those who cannot adapt become victims of evolution ...
hmm yes that's apparently going to be the case with the alliances whose success has entirely depended on abusing broken ships
thanks for your insight npc alt o7 "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:29:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:hakkart wrote:Cyaron wars wrote:So my point is any side should have advantage on battlefield as it now (Numbers and technology). So you filed 1000 Drakes which can be countered by 200 Abaddons. Each side should be able to decide what it will bring for a fight - High SP+Expensive ships or less PS but en mass. You're oversimplifying it. 1000 drakes does not make a fleet. Fleet is all about composition. 1000 drakes would lose HARD to a 500-man fleet with an actual composition, with logis and dictors and recons. . And that's the way it ought to be. A titan blob, on the other hand, stands on its own with no need for support other than supercarriers, which are equally unkillable in large numbers. Edit before someone puts words in my mouth: The 500-man fleet is mostly drakes. How are these titans tackling you guys? No chance in hell I would get point range of one, much less scram and web.
properly fit supercarriers (i.e. the ones that fit officer points) have scram strength at 30km
sometimes you're in a bubble too "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Marlona Sky wrote:Triskian wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:
The super capitals had time to anchor bubbles?
No, I forgot where I put myself. I suggest you always let your FC know about when your own fleet members bubble you causing you to die. I would also suggest (you can pass this on directly from me if you like) that instead of your HIC's using the bubble feature, change to focused scripts. You get farther tackle range and there is no chance of your fleet tackling itself so to speak. Thus allowing anyone the supers are attacking, able to warp out and possible come back. Maybe some game mechanics changed and I didn't see it on the forums, but it should mean far longer staying power for your fleet members against these super capitals.
dictors are the more prevalent bubblers especially after the hics die to titan guns "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Headerman wrote:Tector wrote:I think a very important point to consider here is the massive roadblock a supercapital fleet presents to an alliance attempting to carve a niche for itself in 0.0. It is simply not possible for an alliance with very few or no supercapitals to seriously contest sov against an entrenched alliance and its supercapital fleet. Numbers can be neutralized via bombers or various fleet doctrines, but there is virtually no counter for titans as they stood, save for even more titans. Supercapital pilots are for the most part no different in attitude from the grognards in BoB that felt that someone had no right to be in 0.0 unless they had at least 25m SP.
Rebalancing supercapitals, and with any luck the sov system too, will allow new blood to come into 0.0. Evoke + Cloud ring back in 2010/2011 = ... what exactly? Let me make this clear: Tector wrote:I think a very important point to consider here is the massive roadblock a 1000+ fleet presents to an alliance attempting to carve a niche for itself in 0.0. It is simply not possible for an alliance with very few or no manpower to seriously contest sov against an entrenched alliance and its drake/Mael fleet. Numbers can be neutralized via bombers or various fleet doctrines, but there is virtually no counter for superior numbers as they stand, save for even more people in subcaps. Subcap pilots are for the most part no different in attitude from the grognards in GSF that felt that someone had no right to be in 0.0 unless they had at least 25 SP.
Rebalancing fleet limits, and with any luck the sov system too, will allow new blood to come into 0.0.
let's assume that only these two extremes were possible
do you prefer large-scale engagements to be decided by 20 or 1000+?
hmm i think i'm going with 1000+ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 10:51:00 -
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Headerman wrote:And that point was "but there is virtually no counter for superior numbers as they stand".
And for Andski, i think i would much rather (in an ideal world) see a 50-100 man gang Vs similar numbers, or a handful of carriers for the fun of it.
Having been in a RR carrier gang of 6, we nearly lost to a 50 man gang or so. They are pretty exciting battles :)
But back on topic though, Has a Mael/drake blob won battles where a titan blob was involved?
naaaaaah i'm asking you which of those two extremes (you know, because it's clearly not a false dilemma) is more reasonable "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 10:52:00 -
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wow 6 capitals
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12522897 "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:02:00 -
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Cyaron wars wrote:you are all missing main point of current game mechanics that is broken. Every fleet based on numbers has it's counter based on SP and ISK. Bringing 100 rifters with logistics will be countered by bringing 20 vagabonds with less logistics. So let's assume Fleet A is T1 frigate, Fleet B is Hacs, Fleet C is battleships. So every fleet can be countered by fleet of less size but higher SP, u can always field something that requires less numbers but more SP/ISK and that something will be only like 1 rank higher then hostile fleet . This is how it looks like: frigs > cruisers > BCs > BS > Capitals > Supercapitals > Titans. Current mechanics is good up intil BS. there is a huuuuuge gap between BS and titan. U can say that capitals are under powered and that's why they are not used or state that titans and supers are overpowered and should be nerfed. In any case this is not solving major issue - Gap between BS and a Titan. Fill that missing point and game everybody will be happy.
hey tell me what happens when you throw maelstroms and logis at hacs
let me save you some time: they get murdered by the hacs
add some lokis, huginns, lachesis and dictors into the mix and, hey, the hacs die in a fire
"fleet composition" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:07:00 -
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asdf ghyj wrote:If u guys are so PRO why cry to CCP to nerf ships ?? cuz cant kill Raiden & Co What u guys do now i do when i have 4 year and some1 take my toys and i start cry : MOM ( CCP) some one take my toys pls help me GOONS = PENIBLE thank you for your insights on 0.0 combat asdf ghyj "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:15:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:great now remove ECM, eve fixed
hmm yes 10k ehp recons that die when you sneeze at them are comparable to titans indeed "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:37:00 -
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Cyaron wars wrote:Mathicluanna wrote:Cyaron wars wrote:Mathicluanna wrote:Cyaron wars wrote:1 dread will never kill a full fleet of battleships but 100 dreads will. Lets test this. You bring the dreads I'll bring the battleships. Read my post above again! dreads as they are now are a waste of isk and nothing else. Why should 100 dreads kill 256 battleships other than a misguided belief that more skillpoints and isk should equal more power? Dreads are balanced pretty well against battleships (i.e. they die in a fire), you don't see them on the field because supercaps are broken. Why can Assault frigate like Ishkur **** 5 T1 frigates? Why Garmon rapes pretty much everything in his videos while flying ship fitted for over 5 bil and implants for 2bil? What's the point of training and perfecting skills then?
hmm yes i'm sure garmon solos carriers because he's fielding more isk than they are "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:53:00 -
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btw strong drop still nullifies this change quite a bit
75% nerf or bust "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 12:00:00 -
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Iris Bravemount wrote:Why don't you just forbid Sensor Boosters, Auto Targeting Systems and Signal Amplifiers on Titans instead of nerfing their sensors ? This way they will still have a hard time locking subcaps, but can keep rolling against caps and structures.
and keep the 3 max locked targets "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 21:14:00 -
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George Holden wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote: Call me a concerned citizen. And I find it rather surprising that you still havent been able to cough up a good lie to explain why it is that the CFC havent been kicked out of nullsec long ago, despite your adversaries holding the supposedly undefeatable "iWin" button for more than a year.
Maybe they're scared that whatever they do to make sure they can drive away the CFC gets nerfed into oblivion because CCP loves the goons so much? Just a hypothesis feel free to iterate on that :>
hey why are you in the CFC
posting on the wrong alt???? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 21:17:00 -
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oh man pubbie duvolle just stop while you're ahead
there is no reasonable way to justify why 20 people should decide coalition-level engagements with groups 10+ times their size
hope
this
helps "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 21:19:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:just checking in to see if andski has found a new hobby yet
keep dreamin' buddy~
hmm you keep checking back to this thread too
i wonder if this is indicative of anything "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 21:58:00 -
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"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 22:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:
You can file it wherever you like mate. Along with your sorry ass propaganda would be a good place. Because accrding to that, your sorry ass should have been kicked out of nullsec last summer.
Goes to show just how little you know doesn't it.
it's like he completely glossed over billy merc's attempt to headshot VFK which trapped enough of their supercaps to allow us to basically undo all of the progress they had made up to that day
lol "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Weaselior wrote:yes, let us spend hours explaining the basics of nullsec warfare to someone barely more literate than a plant, that sounds like a wise use of time
you're arguing with the guy who thinks that venal/tribute/vale tech moons "produce more tech" than ours
he also uses valuable intelligence sources like dotlan, evenews24 and kugu "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 22:52:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Then dont. You have painted yourself into a corner with wildly exaggregated claims of your enemies employing supposedly undefeatable iWin buttons. And when someone points out that logically, this would mean that they would have wiped the floor with you many months ago and chased you back to lowsec, you have real trouble explaing how you can still hold territory in nullsec and even how you have expanded your holdings the last months.
the rock my posts blocked so somebody explain what happens when the "i win" buttons are trapped where their staging towers used to be, surrounded by bubbles in our home system because the brilliant tactician known as bmerc thought that was the best plan "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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they had to use an exploit to crash our clients and siege the cynojammer
i'm sure you're perfectly fine with exploits in the war against the blob "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:08:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Andski wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:Andski wrote:the rock my posts blocked so somebody explain what happens when the "i win" buttons are trapped where their staging towers used to be, surrounded by bubbles in our home system Oh but you misunderstand my dear Andski. You see, undefatable iWin buttons would be impossible to "trap". They would have just blasted out of there, killing everything. This is after all, what you claim them to be capable off. hmm yes we've clearly demonstrated the ability of supercapitals to disregard 150km of bubbles Bubbles arent really a problem if everything else is dead, is it? It just take time slowboating out of them, but again - if everything is dead anyway because you just kill them, whats the big problem? I mean, there was a LOT of supers trapped in VFK. An unstoppable rapetrain to quote your own views on the matter. it is a mystery indeed.
we also had a lot of supers in VFK, but they weren't trapped "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:32:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Some pages ago, someone said that this thread was 80 pages of delicios tears. But really, its at least 70% sperging Goons.
Goons that mysterioulsy still hold nullsec territory despite their enemies holding the iWin button for the last year.
look at you completely ignoring the discussion about a failed invasion by the failure who is bmerc
thank you for giving us your valuable insights on nullsec warfare "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:35:00 -
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i wonder how many of these titan apologists believe that titans are built with minerals in freighters escorted from jita, or worse yet, from homesourced minerals from mining "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:50:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:John Maynard Keynes wrote:This is not a shitposting contest. Please try to write something usefull. Its what Goons do when they run out of arguments. NBD.
hmm yes proving you wrong multiple times and calling you out on your utter ignorance of nullsec warfare due to a limited perspective based on highsec incursion running is "shitposting" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:I'm changing my numbers. This thread isnt 70% sperging Goons. Its 90%. Thats funny, since after all - you have apparently "won" EVE.
i think you're the only one sperging here l0l
please learn what words mean "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Andski wrote:Reilly Duvolle wrote:I'm changing my numbers. This thread isnt 70% sperging Goons. Its 90%. Thats funny, since after all - you have apparently "won" EVE. i think you're the only one sperging here l0l please learn what words mean really? shows how much you understand then.
you have been "SNORT SNORT TITANS ARE BALANCED SNORT ITS JUST T1 GOONIES WHO CANT BLOB EVERY1"
we've been replying "lol"
hmm i wonder who's the sperg
(it's you) "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:21:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Keep sperging, morons. LOL. I'm sure you can fill another 10 pages withe useless dribble in 3 more hours. Come on, you know you can do it.
reported for trolling "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:32:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:~PuPpEtMaStA~ defense in full swing, I see.
you should see this guy sperging out in a thread where we discussed nerfing tech "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:56:00 -
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c "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 04:20:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Is mittani giving you a plex for all posts in this thread? Better watch out, he might scam even you.
does the BRASIL HUE HUE alliance even have isk lol "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 11:23:00 -
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Acwron wrote:A titan in the field is tank fitted, Anyone that has a titan knows that hits like shite without tracking and damage mods. Either you tank and have 20-30 mil EHP, either you go tracking/damage and have 3-4 mil EHP. I guess just a few would risk a titan to go in the field with 3-4 mil EHP, that's double a dread has. Dread = ~2,5 bil Titan = ~100 bil not including the fit.
sorry that you apparently fly a T1 rigged ragnarok with t2 tank mods lma0
also wow you're in a space holding alliance and you pay 100b for a titan, just wow "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 11:32:00 -
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Aurora B wrote:[quote=Roland Hova]I see 110 pages of CFC nerdrage
yes we're very, very angry about the fact that we will no longer murder raiden subcaps with titans in eurotime "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 12:39:00 -
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Annabell Prime wrote:Honestly i don't think this is the "right" way to fix it.
The titans should present a viable threat to an enemy fleet.
with this said i think what the game is missing is A combat link instead that promotes fleets of beeing balanced. (Give bonus to fleet on composition of fleet)
so that the number of caps give a bonus to subcaps and subcaps gives a bonus to capital ships.
only then will we lose the big blobbs of ship type XX with dominate the battlefield today.
when its benefical to have several kinds of ship on the field in the fleet the FC will build there fleet with this in mind.
what if a Two titans supported by 20 Subcap ships was more efficent then 5 titans due to the bonuses they present to each other.
Noone enjoys beeing on the reciving end of big nerfs and i my self think tracking titans is pretty fine ...
as long as your not allowed to switch modules in combat as i have no problem with a ship that drop survivability for the ability to hit subcaps .....
and i realy want a ship BS size with low signature radius with XL size weapons that when they got the numbers realy can make a wreck of a Capital ship. make them hard for the capitals to hit and for subcaps easy to hit. and voila you got a Cap killer that cant survive in a subcap enviroment.
thank you for your insights from the hisec veldspar belt
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:29:00 -
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anybody want to hear a joke?
titans "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:54:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:Andski wrote:anybody want to hear a joke?
titans THIS IS AN INTERVENTION I AM HERE FOR YOU, WE CARE ABOUT YOU. You're addicted to posting on EVE-O, it's unhealthy, but we can work through this. Check your posting history, it's scary, I'm genuinely worried for you, friend. 8 hours a day for at least the last week, posting at 5-10 minute intervals. That is not normal. There's more to life than posting on an internet spaceship forum and there are avenues you can pursue to curb this. PLEASE SEEK HELP. WE CARE ABOUT YOU.
my sanity "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 19:59:00 -
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Agente wrote:I just saw CCP_Diagoras statistics and have to completely agree with goons.
Titans awarded 0.62% of the kills last year and that incredibly high number is a good reason to explain why the I-Win deserves to be nerfed.
The I-Win button killing 62% of the ships is clearly overpowered and it must be nerfed because it is impossible to wage war against this odds.
No, wait, it is 0.62%. lol
You where defeated by that? re-lol
keep scratching veldspar "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:18:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Mike712 wrote:So goons fly blobs of 2 LSE perma MWDing drakes(read massive sig, in fact as big as a carrier) against titans for 2 months to make them look OP, then titans get nerfed.
Good job goons/mittens now you should have the upper hand against a foe who you greatly outnumber.... Just leaving this here.
indeed, the opinions of battleclinic morons are relevant in discussions about 0.0 warfare "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:32:00 -
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Nao Oikawasan wrote:Luckily, I don't think I'll be THERE much longer. Just long enough to figure out when I want to burn my main and get some revenge for the waste of my time by "Team Tech". Already have a fair group of dissidents ready to do the same. I suppose we should be thankful to Goons for showing us just how heavy the yoke of slavery to a fail coalition truly is. See you on the other side, Goons. It will be glorious.
huh "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.17 11:29:00 -
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good god you're retarded aren't you
one shitfit titan dying to dreads in lowsec (no DDs) is irrelevant "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.17 16:29:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:words
look at this pubbie trash acting like he has a clue "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.17 17:54:00 -
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2007 account whatup "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.03.18 02:30:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:RDevz wrote:It's amazing how playing station games in Jita qualifies you to talk about titans. What's to be qualified for? Everyone has access to the same ships in EVE, you have more pilots than any coalition in EVE, yet you're tying to make it sound like other alliances have some sort of unfair advantage over you? Face it, it's simply your FC's are too scared to use Super Caps....so you want them nerf'd. What else are your FC's scared of that CCP needs to nerf? .
fly away~ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.18 16:11:00 -
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lol look at this tryhard "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.03.19 14:34:00 -
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Il Reverendo wrote:Goon thread, goon dev, goon bad ideas...
These are the somethingawful forums rght?
faceless forum alt, bad post
you're retarded right? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.03.19 16:17:00 -
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zh0uXiao wrote:how about u beeing ******** andski for not letting ppl saying what they think. Every1 is entitled to have an opinion
yours is irrelevant though "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.03.19 18:22:00 -
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you should get a browser with a spellchecker
toodles "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.03.19 23:02:00 -
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SirMolle wrote:NOOBS IN 0.0 (A PLACE WHERE THEY DONT BELONG TBH)
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.20 02:33:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Suggestion: look at remote tracking and remote sensor boosting as a whole because those combined with off-grid links provide SO SO many advantages to campers and home-defenders that should probably be considered.
I say this as a solo PVPer of course but even farting about in frigates doing unimportant PVP these instalocking, uber tracking and linked up groups are of course an issue. It's still a problem for small skirmish gangs wanting to engage larger forces and it goes right up the engagement scale to tracking linked titans.
Your current proposal deals with Titan tracking but doesnt really consider the smaller scale. I don't know if you care about the above but it would be nice if you at least considered it GÖÑ
off-grid links, remote sensor boosts and tracking links are not a problem
hint: if they own the space, they rightly have the advantage "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.20 03:03:00 -
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Yamarash wrote:oh no sry all for my later statement. i was wrong and mad. lol.
NOOBS need to have equal opportunities as older people. LMAO in what game this is true??? examples please?
One drake with a guy 3 MONTHS old can beat a 5 years older (no ******) guy cause CCP will nerf every ship when somebody cry telling CCP they cant win a s.h.i.t ?
What CCP will do when 200 guys in Machariels kick a.ss 700 noobies Drakes ?? Nerf Machariels ???
What CCP will do when 2000 noobs attack a technetium pos and 20 random guys in bombers kill all that cra.p ??? nerf bombers?
WE WILL SEE. JUST SAYING and want to leave this as history to copy-paste in a future.
do your bets..
hey bro your alliance never uses its titans anyway
200 machariels will not kill 700 drakes (or anything) without logistics, recons, dictors and other support, and they certainly will not engage 700 of any ship without losses
bombers are easily avoided by spreading out - anyone who stays in a ball, especially when shooting towers, deserves to get bombed
keep bleating it's hilarious "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.20 06:13:00 -
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Yamarash wrote:Bro. Who is talking about alliances??? topic is about nerf titans. grown up. this is no local channel lmao.
and yes i use mine.
and 700 drakes never go withoput logistics, recons, dictors and other support. Lets see what will be your next cry me a river after titans nerf.
hi this thread is about groups of 20-30 titans killing subcaps with impunity, zero losses, and zero risk
keep up, your alliance never uses titans like that, and they hardly ever use titans besides for bridging
do feel free to link some killmails where you blap idiots coming through a gate or something because what you do when every supercapital fleet of consequence is 7 mids away is absolutely irrelevant "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.20 13:06:00 -
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Aurora B wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:Yeep wrote:Alternatively pretty much every anti-nerf argument has been shot down earlier in the thread so its safe to assume everyone who keeps whining about them is goon or jew. Yeah this thread is dead since we had essentially nothing to offer except "the most drakes should always win, drake pilots are like level 8 WoW characters, if you have played Eve for 6 weeks you should be able to kill everything with drakes", "if you don't nerf my enemies precious spaceships I am whining and taking my 7000 fellow whiners with me". fab5s all round Fixed...
hey mouthbreather you've only managed to rub enough brain cells together to come up with some false dilemma where the only alternatives are 20 titans winning or hundreds of drakes winning
if you're really dumb enough to do this maybe you should realize that any sane person would go with the hundreds of drakes - you know, more people, better for business
stop being dumb "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.20 13:54:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:If I understand your frothy mouth rant correctly, couldnGÇÖt the same apply where 20 Titans is the answer to your 700 drakesGǪGǪGǪ.since at the end of the day itGÇÖs all about winningGǪGǪright? I guess if you asked the Alliances nicely that actually use their Titans not to use them, while you promise not to be a bunch of system **** packing goat fondlers, you would not find yourself sobbing to CCP to nerf the ships that a lot of your pilots would like log in or fly somedayGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪ.or you could grow a setGǪ. .
lol look who's mad "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:20:00 -
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"We're a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.20 23:53:00 -
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supr3m3justic3 wrote:80% of all the post in this thread that are non-supportive of the nerf dont really give 2 ***** about the titans, they would rather see some super over power ship, than goons get thier way, ny ******* day of the week. Our hate for you fuels the tracking titans, and i hope that thousands more of you die to the titans before they get nerfed, then after that, i hope we find a new way to shove all 1600 drakes right up your troll holes.
the paste must be especially tasty this season "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.21 05:27:00 -
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Acwron wrote:
Until then: Still heard no reason why the only counter to Titans should be "more Titans"
Because drakes and maelstroms have some difficulties in killing a TITAN ! You need to bring the equivalent to kill it !
You don't have ? Grind isk and get it ! Are you afraid ? Go back to high sec.
your titan in particular doesn't require much effort to counter
a simple scam is all it takes "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.21 05:29:00 -
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"hey my friend's ragnarok is dying because he's an idiot, let me warp in my 25b nyx to save him instead of this 900m triage carrier" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.21 05:31:00 -
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acwron bots/rmts, nobody with two brain cells to rub together would get scammed out of a nyx and expect GMs to care "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.22 00:20:00 -
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guys my killboard "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.22 07:42:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:Welp..........I gots more "Likes" than the two of you combined so I think I'm a pretty good poaster.........and my mom says thats all that counts..... Hey I got more CFC kills in EC- today............you guize are fun to farm!!!.. .
oh boy look who's dropping the likes bomb "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.22 14:00:00 -
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Wyatt 3arp wrote:CCP ***** bends over to GSF, again.
quiet peasant "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.24 22:23:00 -
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Calipso Star wrote:Difference between Goons and Raiden. is that Raiden. fights the battles in game you just cry on forums. Thats why you don't see them in here talking to people that spammed anything they had to say. I personaly don't balme you is your intelect can't do more then that understandable, but ccp has allowed goons to troll anyone , swa , it doesn't matter if i am in SWA is my problem i play the game how i want it i have no problem you can nerf titans as much as you want but goons will remain ******** like ****.
learn to spell m8 "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.24 22:25:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:forator2 wrote:what matters what we say or don't say on the forum.... anyway nobody cares. You can see how affected mrs CCP Greyscale of our problem. I assume that the decision was already taken, seeing that he's not bothering to write anything on this forum, as he already spoke with CSM....players representatives :)))). He has too many problems to deal with (Mittani you should buy him some clips to have something to do while he speaks at fanfest), so is too busy to listen to us.
but I still have two questions: 1. If he nerf the titan, maybe he will return all the SP for all the time we lost ? 2. will they drop down the prices for the plex, seeing that we cannot use the titans for the PVE either? Meanwhile I am quite convinced that the proposed changes won't change much. Epic goon whine threadnaught is incoming.
followed by an epic smug threadnaught after they are nerfed even further into the ground "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.25 01:22:00 -
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http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=5869
LOL GOONIES CAN'T DEAL WITH TITANS "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.25 01:27:00 -
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also RF Gyrostabs on an erebus are the new FOTM OP WTF OH GOD fit "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.25 02:18:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:Andski wrote:http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=5869
LOL GOONIES CAN'T DEAL WITH TITANS Pretty smart of you to throw this right at the end of a thread about nerf'ing them hu.... Seems to me that the fight looked pretty fair when you crybabies finanly log in your Super caps...the only thing that swayed the battle was you **** packing the system as usual. I think you guys were pretty dumb to do this now before the nerf since now CCP can easily see that they don't need nerfing, you guys just need to stop being pussies....... Congrats on poping your cherry......will you keep loging them in or go back to hiding now?.... Hey I got 3 Goonies carrier kills in EC- thanks for that ... .
i literally don't care about a multiboxer losing 3 carriers at a gate "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:31:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:So now that you guys have figured out how to log them in.........can we get a Titan on the gate in EC-... .
Not our gimmick. Try the Ossogur gate, Amamake. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:31:00 -
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Calipso Star wrote:Andski wrote:http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=5869
LOL GOONIES CAN'T DEAL WITH TITANS Isn't this what you implied all along ? And after that you came with that link to contradict what you were saying. Perfect, can you start making sense for once in your life ?
quiet worm "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:34:00 -
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12842287
titans are fine wolololol "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 05:16:00 -
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hey idiot look at the shiptype
if you knew anything about titans you'd know that's beyond broken "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 08:45:00 -
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Calipso Star wrote:Andski wrote:hey idiot look at the shiptype
if you knew anything about titans you'd know that's beyond broken Is not that you know something about this game either or manners. You know for the 2 years that you spent in game you are pretty vocative considering that you do not have the knowledge or the experience to give advices or lectures. I would say fly another 2 years and come back on forums.
try posting from your main before telling me to "fly another 2 years and come back on the forums" ;p
i'm just going to assume that you're a hisec mission runner so fly away "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:23:00 -
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the entirety of your knowledge of nullsec warfare is making awful solo bombing runs and being cloaked on the torrinos gate in a rapier
at least it's better than 99% of your worthless alliance ;p "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.26 11:31:00 -
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also considering that your irrelevant ass failed to answer my question, i'll throw you a bone:
you need dictors to kill supercaps "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:38:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:Of course you need dictors to kill Super Caps but it doesnGÇÖt mean that a ship costing 100 bill, which sacrifice its tank for tracking enhancers, should'nt be able to hit the ships that are keeping it from saving itself.
the isk cost does not determine its capabilities, it determines how much you're losing "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:05:00 -
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snot shot: illiterate "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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