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Tyrantus 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.06.25 19:29:00 - [1] Originally by: Eemaavi Originally by: Take Enemy Bull****. Vent/TS has been a part of Eve since the beginning. Get used to it. If the node crashes you are still up - too many reasons why it is better frankly. words.. Hah! What you don't seem to get is that most of the FW players have NOT used TS Regardless of what Corps and Alliances are doing.. TS/Vent only Advantage is Disconnects and even then If your node Crashed you not playing or leading anything are you? The 100 player Limit? Puh-lease show me a 100 man Amarr Militia. Are you even listening to your self? I have seen how well Relay Works. (I have TS and Vent too BTW) lol. Your asking people who don't want to be bothered by using yet another Out of game resource that may or my not work for them, who may or may not have a good TS Server Etc. that isn't infiltrated with spies screwing over your settings, kicking users etc etc. Frankly, TS and Vent lacks of integration with the Fleet makes them less useful and actually promotes blobbing (Because anything like the fleet integration is a pain to manage. Yes TS/Vent have their place... in Private Corp or alliance ops where you can order your players to use TS or Vent or kick them out. But for FW and the Militias you are smoking Cr@ck. And the Sooner more pilots realize this the better they will be able to communicate. Never used TS before I started flying with the militia. Took me all of a minute to download and install and was talking shortly after. I don't really understand why someone would complain about what voice software is being used as it was as simple as simple can be to install and use. I've also installed vent just to make sure I can talk in a fleet using whatever software the FC is happy with. Is learning something new so hard? Member Of The 24th Imperial
Tyrantus 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.06.25 19:42:00 - [2] So ts is too hard to install and use for you? Maybe clicking your weapons mods and then having to (shudder) move your mouse to a target will prove to much to handle also. Great to have you all on the opposing side then. Member Of The 24th Imperial
Tyrantus 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.06.25 19:46:00 - [3] Hey! We should start another thread about the plusses and minuses of the various voice software. It should be an epic thread. Member Of The 24th Imperial
Tyrantus 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.06.25 19:55:00 - [4] Originally by: Eemaavi Edited by: Eemaavi on 25/06/2008 19:47:13 Originally by: Tyrantus So ts is too hard to install and use for you? Maybe clicking your weapons mods and then having to (shudder) move your mouse to a target will prove to much to handle also. Great to have you all on the opposing side then. Reading Comprehension FTL... I meant the part about shepherding other users and getting everyone in the Fleet on the same page and running right and registered etc etc. (you also missed the part where I mentioned that I have all three). I would tell you about the sky but alas that is over your head too I guess you missed the part were I stated that I had never used ts before in my life and was up and running in literaly 3 minutes. And funnily enough noone else in all the gangs I've run with had any issues with installing and using it. Maybe this is a non-issue cooked up for our trolling pleasure? Member Of The 24th Imperial
Tyrantus 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.06.25 20:19:00 - [5] Originally by: Ulstan Quote: Never used TS before I started flying with the militia. Took me all of a minute to download and install and was talking shortly after. Yeah, and it took me all of 15s to recover from the boot.ini fiasco. Guess it wasn't such a big deal afterall! I missed all the boot.ini fun cause I always download the full install on patch day. Sometimes it sucks always thinking ahead. Quote: Hint: the fact that some people do not have trouble using the more complicated form of communications doesn't change the fact that it is still more complicated and more prone to user confusion. Trying to get your fleets to download, install, run, configure, etc, TS is a needless form of confusion for your average new to PvP FW militia player. What's wrong with EVE voice? That's much easier to explain to new folks. Eve is more complicated and prone to user confusion than other mmos. Should we tell everyone to go back to Wow? If you have someone in you fleet window linking the ts server addy and actively helping new joiners then it shouldn't be a problem to get players up to speed. Maybe certain FC need to get more organized? Member Of The 24th Imperial
Tyrantus 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.06.25 20:32:00 - [6] Edited by: Tyrantus on 25/06/2008 20:34:07 Originally by: Karok Vilneram Originally by: Tyrantus Eve is more complicated and prone to user confusion than other mmos. Should we tell everyone to go back to Wow? If you have someone in you fleet window linking the ts server addy and actively helping new joiners then it shouldn't be a problem to get players up to speed. Maybe certain FC need to get more organized? Maybe thats why you get no help? Maybe thats why Boromor's fleets end up PWNING everything around (even carriers) because we can quickly organize fleets and we all use voice? Action meet Reaction. Strange. I haven't made a single statement to the fact that fleets should only use TS. If your fleet wants to use eve voice go ahead, if you want to use Vent go ahead, if you want to use TS go ahead. I'm just saying that setting up ts or vent is rediculously easy to do and should not be the basis of an 'omg that fc wants me to use something other than eve voice therefore the entire FW fleet system is fail because I can't be arsed to learn how to tie my shoelaces'. Thats pretty much the vibe I'm getting here. Oh and like I stated earlier in this thread we Amarr had no problems getting a bunch of admitted newbs to pvp of any sort quickley on ts and out killing several billions in isk of ships in our motley t1 cruiser gang. Member Of The 24th Imperial
Tyrantus 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.06.25 20:53:00 - [7] Originally by: Qwert0 We just TRIED to help the Amarr today, in the time it took us to figure out what they were flying, their FC vanished, they lost a battleship to a nano gang, and their marauder quit. We then proceeded to roam caldari space because it wasn't worth the effort. Then remove that amarr FC from your help list and find a more competant one. Trust there are some very competant FC floating around atm in the Amarr milita. We might be the smallest faction due to the fact everyone and his alt had the positive faction status right off the bat to zerg the caldari and all the pre fw dedicated pvpers had mostly good standings to gallante for that fed antimatter but we have heart and are striking effectively when we do strike. Remember that there is no time limit to fw and systems can be taken back just as easily as they are lost. Give us some more time to get truely organized and you will start seeing some epic pew pew in addition to the already lopsided victories we currently enjoy. Member Of The 24th Imperial
Tyrantus 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.06.25 21:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Ulstan Quote: Maybe certain FC need to get more organized? Yes, the Amarr FC's certainly need to get more organized. They're down, what, 7-0 now? A good way to get more organized would be to stop the needless squabbling over trying to force people to use TS/vent and just use Eve voice for big random militia ops. TS/Vent work just fine for a cohesive core of people that play together regularly. What? 7-0? I didn't realise we were down by a touchdown. Again I'm not seeing any squabbling over what voice coms are used in the fleets I run in. Could you name those offending Amarr FC who are being picky any maybe we can convo them and talk about a compromise? We are all in it together after all. Member Of The 24th Imperial
Tyrantus 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Alvara I wasn't the first to ask why we couldn't use Eve Voice, but I did ask too. Anyways, combine the fact the fleet leader refused to use Eve Voice despite a significant portion of his fleet asking for it. He just whined back that it lags his computer so no. Eve voice does lag some peoples systems that use it. In this case it was the FC who was effected so he could: A) Use eve voice and be of zero value to the fleet due to garbled speech and unresponsive client or.. B) Use a simple to download and setup voice coms that everyone can use in minutes and be a benefit to the fleet as an FC should. Choice should be obvious. Loyal Member Of The 24th Imperial
Tyrantus 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.06.26 17:10:00 - [10] Originally by: Khazeel Originally by: Random Gen [snip] I suppose it's possible I'm just a dumb PVP noob, but to me the whole thing is just made to fail. It's not really any fun any more. The fleets made from the militia channel are made to fail. Often literally. :) Indeed. :) Nothing like taking a t1 fitted cheap ass cruiser blob out and goading the enemy to bring an even bigger blob to pwn us. Then the enemys members get all*****y and bring thier T2 ships and especially the faction/officer fitted T2 ships. These are then primaried and destroyed with much lulz in local at the killmails. So far its been working beautifully. ;-D Loyal Member Of The 24th Imperial

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