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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.06.25 15:23:00 -
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Man, I can't imagine the extra hassle and confusion caused by trying to use vent/TS over EVE voice.
Anyway, minmatar complaining about not having enough people to fight should have joined the underdogs!(Amarr) How many pvp corps joined them?
As for Caldari, they're having more than enough trouble with gallente, and their own generous serving of alt-spies distributing hilarious misinformation :p
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.06.25 19:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Eemaavi
Originally by: Take Enemy
Bull****. Vent/TS has been a part of Eve since the beginning. Get used to it. If the node crashes you are still up - too many reasons why it is better frankly.
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Hah! What you don't seem to get is that most of the FW players have NOT used TS Regardless of what Corps and Alliances are doing.. TS/Vent only Advantage is Disconnects and even then If your node Crashed you not playing or leading anything are you? The 100 player Limit? Puh-lease show me a 100 man Amarr Militia. Are you even listening to your self? I have seen how well Relay Works. (I have TS and Vent too BTW) lol.
Your asking people who don't want to be bothered by using yet another Out of game resource that may or my not work for them, who may or may not have a good TS Server Etc. that isn't infiltrated with spies screwing over your settings, kicking users etc etc. Frankly, TS and Vent lacks of integration with the Fleet makes them less useful and actually promotes blobbing (Because anything like the fleet integration is a pain to manage.
Yes TS/Vent have their place... in Private Corp or alliance ops where you can order your players to use TS or Vent or kick them out. But for FW and the Militias you are smoking Cr@ck. And the Sooner more pilots realize this the better they will be able to communicate.
This. Trying to shepherd a bunch of random people through downloading, installing, running, and configuring teamspeak is just insanity when you can have them simply rightclick - join audio instead.
Teamspeak has it's place, but that place is not coordinating bunches of random people who are rather new to the PvP scene. I doubt you're going to be trying to coordinate logon traps or anything like that.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:01:00 -
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Never used TS before I started flying with the militia. Took me all of a minute to download and install and was talking shortly after.
Yeah, and it took me all of 15s to recover from the boot.ini fiasco. Guess it wasn't such a big deal afterall!
Hint: the fact that some people do not have trouble using the more complicated form of communications doesn't change the fact that it is still more complicated and more prone to user confusion. Trying to get your fleets to download, install, run, configure, etc, TS is a needless form of confusion for your average new to PvP FW militia player. What's wrong with EVE voice? That's much easier to explain to new folks.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.06.25 21:18:00 -
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Maybe certain FC need to get more organized?
Yes, the Amarr FC's certainly need to get more organized. They're down, what, 7-0 now?
A good way to get more organized would be to stop the needless squabbling over trying to force people to use TS/vent and just use Eve voice for big random militia ops.
TS/Vent work just fine for a cohesive core of people that play together regularly.
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