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John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:39:00 -
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I am new to eve. I think it is important that new players can play a meaningfull role in this game. However, current game mechanics don't allow that.
Recently, my alliance has fielded 300ish Rifters with some noob ship support and tried to take sov from a smaller alliance. They had 100ish frigs and engaged us, everything went well for us. But then suddenly 30ish Hurricanes warped on grid and started to pop our rifters. Finally, we had to withdraw simply because our enemy was able to field Hurricanes.
Obviously, this game is broken! Hurricanes are a IWIN button in such battles. We can't do **** about it. Such game mechanics prevent small alliances from taking space.
Please like this post so that CCP finally becomes aware of this issue!!!
P.S: I also would like to run for CSM next year and will adress this issue there if I win. |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
166
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:43:00 -
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And the only counter to hurricanes is obviously more hurricanes. |
Alara IonStorm
1780
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:44:00 -
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I think the issue is that your fits are terrible. 300 Frigates against only 30ish Hurricanes should be a clear victory for the Frigates. |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:49:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:And the only counter to hurricanes is obviously more hurricanes. You, as member of a small alliance must know this issue too well. |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:52:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:I think the issue is that your fits are terrible. 300 Frigates against only 30ish Hurricanes should be a clear victory for the Frigates.
Going with this. :)
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mama guru
Evolution
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:59:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:I think the issue is that your fits are terrible. 300 Frigates against only 30ish Hurricanes should be a clear victory for the Frigates.
300 riftres should wipe that field clean in like 30 seconds including locktimes assuming they are arty fit. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |
Lit it up
Phogi Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:00:00 -
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I Support this idea! |
Alara IonStorm
1780
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:03:00 -
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Oh funny enough the (Issue) the OP is talking about is being worked on. Not his (fix) but the issue of BC balance.
CSM Minutes and CCP comments indicate that T1 Frigates and Cruisers are getting a buff. CCP has said that to many players are skipping over Frigates and cruisers for BC Hulls.
So despite being able to handle the situation the OP describes they will be a able to do so even better in the future. |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:09:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Oh funny enough the (Issue) the OP is talking about is being worked on. Not his (fix) but the issue of BC balance.
CSM Minutes and CCP comments indicate that T1 Frigates and Cruisers are getting a buff. CCP has said that to many players are skipping over Frigates and cruisers for BC Hulls.
So despite being able to handle the situation the OP describes they will be a able to do so even better in the future. Support me then plz. |
Alara IonStorm
1780
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:12:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote: Support me then plz.
Nope, not until you remove the suggested tracking nerf from the OP because that hurts Cruisers who also use that weapon.
It isn't cut an dry like Titan tracking was.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
218
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:16:00 -
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Try putting a tracking disruptor from each frigate on to each Hurricane.
After all, this is how tracking-Titans are countered... ohwait. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:25:00 -
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Whoops... |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:31:00 -
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Gypsio III wrote:Try putting a tracking disruptor from each frigate on to each Hurricane.
After all, this is how tracking-Titans are countered... ohwait. Too skill intensive... |
Ivar Avar
The Fallen Brigade
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:35:00 -
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You realy need to get some hurricanes of your own or go after a smaller alliance that can't field so many hurricanes. |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:55:00 -
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Ivar Avar wrote:You realy need to get some hurricanes of your own or go after a smaller alliance that can't field so many hurricanes. This issue must be dealt with |
Jack Miton
Lapse Of Sanity Exhale.
140
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:04:00 -
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Nice troll, looks like you caught some people. |
Alara IonStorm
1780
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:07:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Nice troll, looks like you caught some people. Yeah, yeah it is all a reference to Supers, we all get it.
Shame he failed at picking numbers where his fleet has the advantage.
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OfBalance
Caldari State
159
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:51:00 -
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Posting in a "help we're loosing our moons to maelstroms," thread. |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:53:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:Posting in a "help we're loosing our moons to maelstroms," thread. Thank you Sir. |
Darth Tickles
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:06:00 -
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Bad example considering the 300 rifters would ownzone, but please keep crying over spilled titans. |
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Spc One
The Chodak Void Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:08:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:I am new to eve. I think it is important that new players can play a meaningfull role in this game. However, current game mechanics don't allow that.
Recently, my alliance has fielded 300ish Rifters with some noob ship support and tried to take sov from a smaller alliance. They had 100ish frigs and engaged us, everything went well for us. But then suddenly 30ish Hurricanes warped on grid and started to pop our rifters. Finally, we had to withdraw simply because our enemy was able to field Hurricanes.
Obviously, this game is broken! Hurricanes are a IWIN button in such battles. We can't do **** about it. Such game mechanics prevent small alliances from taking space.
Please like this post so that CCP finally becomes aware of this issue!!!
P.S: I also would like to run for CSM next year and will adress this issue there if I win. Well if dominixes warped to you and deployed light drones, the result would be the same as with hurricanes. |
Sage Revinour
Border Zone Excursions
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:14:00 -
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0/10
Fail troll in a forum it doesn't belong in. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin.
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:33:00 -
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lmbo this ******* scrub doesnt realize that 300 frigs would own 30 canes |
M1k3y Koontz
Taxes Suck Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:50:00 -
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300 Rifters VS 30 Hurricanes? I say the rifters win just because they have such a BLOB of them, cant kill that many before their DPS melts the hurricanes.
Also, failtroll I actually give 1/10 because it got two pages. How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:57:00 -
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M1k3y Koontz wrote:300 Rifters VS 30 Hurricanes? I say the rifters win just because they have such a BLOB of them, cant kill that many before their DPS melts the hurricanes.
Also, failtroll I actually give 1/10 because it got two pages. They had 100 Frigs as well, and I guess they had a better FC. |
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone Ironworks Coalition
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:02:00 -
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This thread is relevant to my interests, I like where it's going. |
FT Diomedes
Factio Paucorum
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:31:00 -
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The obvious solution is to make all battle cruisers use large weapons. |
Lit it up
Phogi Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:51:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:300 Rifters VS 30 Hurricanes? I say the rifters win just because they have such a BLOB of them, cant kill that many before their DPS melts the hurricanes.
Also, failtroll I actually give 1/10 because it got two pages. They had 100 Frigs as well, and I guess they had a better FC.
i lol-¦d so hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you Sir! |
Denuo Secus
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Posted - 2012.03.14 09:20:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:Gypsio III wrote:Try putting a tracking disruptor from each frigate on to each Hurricane.
After all, this is how tracking-Titans are countered... ohwait. Too skill intensive...
Even low skilled tech1 TD on each rifter will hurt BCs ability to deal damage a lot. I mean...~10 low-skilled TD on each Cane, hello? Damps (res script) or Minmatar-ECM (if you know what's coming) should work nice as well. Ewar is your option you really should have used in smaller hulls vs larger hulls IMO. |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.14 09:35:00 -
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OH NOES DONT NERF MAH TITANS PLEEEEEEEEASE ME WANTS TO TRACK AB-ING TENGUS LONG LONG TIME.
(Oh and dem canes, did they have cormacs sensor boosters :P) |
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