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Annihilatus Starwinders The Unwilling. 0	Posted - 2012.03.15 03:14:00 - [31] - Quote More tears from titan pilots... The intended role is anti capital, not anti everything... atm the leviathan is the only one that works as intended, due to missiles not being able to hurt small things very well at all. Stop crying, titans are still going to hold a large place in battles... P.S it will be nice to log onto sisi and not get raped by tracking titans at every CA, though my poor carrier will likely still be dded every time =p
Cyniac Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance 175	Posted - 2012.03.15 03:33:00 - [32] - Quote Andski wrote: black thorne alliance shitbird quoting ~Sun Tzu~ this thread can only go uphill See? Told you it would be easy.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 227	Posted - 2012.03.15 03:37:00 - [33] - Quote SpaceSquirrels wrote: Um I dont see how small alliances can afford to blob supers...yet major ones can't?,,, Or dont? Assuming this were true wouldnt they just figure it out stop using massive small fleets and just blob supers or dreads to counter? They certainly have the resources to make the needed tactic change. That's silly, we all know in major alliances the (i think soon to be nerfed) tech moons are simply eaten by the overlords as an appetizer to ~elite pvp~ tears Diomidis wrote: EVE is too "defensive" a lot of years now... Leaving nothing to chance - its 99% "if I cannot win without losing a single ship of my gang I won't fight", and making more and more blob friendly is too boring...boring even for the blobs, though they won't admit it - they prefer spending hours forming up to get 1/20 the kills vs. fleet size, than having fun roams with less people, more variety, more risk. Yeah, it's funny when supercap blobs seem afraid of welpcanes. We can get their tengus to fight against our drakes though, of course we throw away many drakes in various engagements, but it's still isk efficient, if I recall, though obviously not ~k/d ratio~ efficient. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Cedo Nulli Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 75	Posted - 2012.03.15 04:33:00 - [34] - Quote I wonder if the OP thinks hes playing a hero class in this game .... It rather makes sense that 1000 people cant beat 7000 people ... No ?
Tinu Moorhsum Royal Scientific Research Enterprise 75	Posted - 2012.03.15 10:32:00 - [35] - Quote Cedo Nulli wrote: It rather makes sense that 1000 people cant beat 7000 people ... No ? really.... you'd almost think that being better organised would give you and advantage...... Oo it's reminds me of the QQ from carebears who petition the fact that their 8/10 site didn't drop a billion in loot. RA will probably fail-cascade, tbh. most of their members play for the RMT and RMT income from actually playing eveonline isn't that great. T-
uwai223 Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension 19	Posted - 2012.03.15 12:34:00 - [36] - Quote Posting in another "goons nerfed my titan" thread We are required by our constitution to let the voters think they have a choice. That's democracy!
Falin Whalen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 169	Posted - 2012.03.15 19:01:00 - [37] - Quote Cyniac wrote: Andski wrote: black thorne alliance shitbird quoting ~Sun Tzu~ this thread can only go uphill See? Told you it would be easy. When you find yourself in a hole you dug, don't keep digging. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons.
M'nu Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 5	Posted - 2012.03.15 23:44:00 - [38] - Quote Sapegu wrote: So, How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance? If Biggest guns are nerfed... 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures... Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV... CCP... WAKE UP!!! How many books have you read that get their point across the way you typed? Also, getting a sick tight crew and going all out.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 231	Posted - 2012.03.16 16:37:00 - [39] - Quote uwai223 wrote: Posting in another "goons nerfed my titan" thread How does it feel? How does it taste? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Sapegu the muppets RED.OverLord 5	Posted - 2012.03.20 15:18:00 - [40] - Quote Bent Barrel wrote: Sapegu wrote: So, How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance? If Biggest guns are nerfed... 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures... Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV... CCP... WAKE UP!!! omg what brilliant logic ... if they are not nerfed, the bigger alliance will have more of them anyway ... check mate ? Not chek mate... As we can see, if not open your's... smaller alliances have BIG GNS TOO... and can use them better than big alliances... If Big guns stop counting, then numbers are all an alliance has to show...
Kale Eledar Mining and Industrial Services The Irukandji 22	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:23:00 - [41] - Quote GÇ£One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect overlords. IGÇÖd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.GÇ¥
HELIC0N ONE GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 181	Posted - 2012.03.20 19:36:00 - [42] - Quote Tinu Moorhsum wrote: Cedo Nulli wrote: It rather makes sense that 1000 people cant beat 7000 people ... No ? really.... you'd almost think that being better organised would give you and advantage...... Oo So what happens when the larger group is also the better organised?
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 133	Posted - 2012.03.20 21:38:00 - [43] - Quote Sapegu wrote: So, How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance? If Biggest guns are nerfed... 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures... Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV... CCP... WAKE UP!!! That's a whole lot of crazy ranting right there. Insane Nutter wrote: 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! Why exactly is this a problem? I'm sorry that every other alliance in the game sees their allies as nothing more than expendable cannon fodder to be thrown on the guns of self interest, but its not our fault that other alliances are unable to have genuine friends who will be there when they're needed.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 244	Posted - 2012.03.21 04:47:00 - [44] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: Insane Nutter wrote: 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! Why exactly is this a problem? I'm sorry that every other alliance in the game sees their allies as nothing more than expendable cannon fodder to be thrown on the guns of self interest, but its not our fault that other alliances are unable to have genuine friends who will be there when they're needed. Heh. Tell me the story about a bunch of ~big boys~ who were trying to pick on our friends recently and ended up trying to evac staging POSes (getting one ninjaed in the process). HELIC0N ONE wrote: So what happens when the larger group is also the better organised? Now you're suggesting goons are well organized. Well with Collective Consciousness V and Fleet Commander V (tell me more about FC V please)... oh well I guess that's good enough. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10398	Posted - 2012.03.21 17:36:00 - [45] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: WARBRO wrote: As the universe of eve has shown over and over the super huge alliances can't last. Typically they implode due to internal strife, boredom at having no good fights and general malaise. I for one welcome our new goon overlords. Look at BOB, Atlas, and even goons 18 months ago. So please OP, sit down, shut up and go back to high sec. +1 @OP To grow in numbers you might as well start by spare some isk instead of keeping it for you and only your good friends. You cry about a shot you gave your self right between the eye, suck it up and become a better man than you are today because your shameless tears are just delicious. The problem with comparing Goonswarm and the other Clusterfuck Coalition entities to the large alliances of the past lies in the cohesiveness or lack thereof in the entities being compared. Goonfleet comes from Something Awful; Elite Space Guild comes from 4chan; Dreddit comes from Reddit; Merch Industrial comes from Penny Arcade; and so on. We do not have pets, we do not have renters, we do not have people associated with us for whom we feel lingering disdain. The Clusterfuck Coalition is made up of entities which are each formed from communities that exist from outside of EVE. Many of us are friends, either from other games or in real life, with the people alongside whom we fly in war fleets. We have an interest in maintaining the relationships we have, and in cultivating a strong tie between our various organisations. Community-born players have a strong incentive, from being showered with free stuff on day one, to feel loyalty to the group. EVE-born players, and the organisations they form, have no such incentive. If this or that pet of this or that alliance gets mad at the parent alliance, or if the parent alliance gets mad at the pet, the relationship is quickly and easily excised, and a new pet is found to keep the rent money coming in for the parent. Pets that aren't naive know that they're replaceable, and that they will be sacrificed as a buffer shield in the event of an invasion. Knowing this, people have no desire to feel loyal to the parent alliance, and individuals are constantly on the lookout to keep their PVP resumes up to snuff so that they can get into the next corp or alliance. Goonswarm and the Clusterfuck Coalition do not behave like that, and do not conduct diplomacy like that. We will not fall under our own weight, for we have been far too fat for far longer than we've been wealthy in EVE for fat to suddenly be the cause of our deaths in EVE. We will sustain; we will endure; we will prevail, where others have fallen. And woe to those who would make war on our smaller allies, thinking that we will abandon them as sacrificial "pets". Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 245	Posted - 2012.03.21 17:41:00 - [46] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: [And woe to those who would make war on our smaller allies, thinking that we will abandon them as sacrificial "pets". Think there's an easy target? Surprise! Drake blobs! Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Alua Oresson Demon-War-Lords BLACK-MARK 72	Posted - 2012.03.21 17:51:00 - [47] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: The problem with comparing Goonswarm and the other Clusterfuck Coalition entities to the large alliances of the past lies in the cohesiveness or lack thereof in the entities being compared. Goonfleet comes from Something Awful; Elite Space Guild comes from 4chan; Dreddit comes from Reddit; Merch Industrial comes from Penny Arcade; and so on. We do not have pets, we do not have renters, we do not have people associated with us for whom we feel lingering disdain. The Clusterfuck Coalition is made up of entities which are each formed from communities that exist from outside of EVE. Many of us are friends, either from other games or in real life, with the people alongside whom we fly in war fleets. We have an interest in maintaining the relationships we have, and in cultivating a strong tie between our various organisations. Community-born players have a strong incentive, from being showered with free stuff on day one, to feel loyalty to the group. Not ALL of us are from outside communities. However, we all do enjoy that feeling of community in the CFC that makes us feel like we are valued members of the team. An attack on one of us is an attack on all.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 245	Posted - 2012.03.21 18:00:00 - [48] - Quote Alua Oresson wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Community-born players have a strong incentive, from being showered with free stuff on day one, to feel loyalty to the group. Not ALL of us are from outside communities. However, we all do enjoy that feeling of community in the CFC that makes us feel like we are valued members of the team. An attack on one of us is an attack on all. It's not just the outside EVE community. Obviously being a member of one wouldn't necessarily make you "feel" anything for a group from a different one. The CFC itself is a community. It's not just Goonwaffe newbies who show up in rifters when drakefleet is forming up, I think I saw a TEST newbie once (pretty adorable) when we were going to defend something, I don't remember what (we just got blueballed since it was a big thing). Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10399	Posted - 2012.03.21 18:45:00 - [49] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: [And woe to those who would make war on our smaller allies, thinking that we will abandon them as sacrificial "pets". Think there's an easy target? Surprise! Drake blobs! lazy 300 reference regarding drakes Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10399	Posted - 2012.03.21 18:46:00 - [50] - Quote Alua Oresson wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: The problem with comparing Goonswarm and the other Clusterfuck Coalition entities to the large alliances of the past lies in the cohesiveness or lack thereof in the entities being compared. Goonfleet comes from Something Awful; Elite Space Guild comes from 4chan; Dreddit comes from Reddit; Merch Industrial comes from Penny Arcade; and so on. We do not have pets, we do not have renters, we do not have people associated with us for whom we feel lingering disdain. The Clusterfuck Coalition is made up of entities which are each formed from communities that exist from outside of EVE. Many of us are friends, either from other games or in real life, with the people alongside whom we fly in war fleets. We have an interest in maintaining the relationships we have, and in cultivating a strong tie between our various organisations. Community-born players have a strong incentive, from being showered with free stuff on day one, to feel loyalty to the group. Not ALL of us are from outside communities. However, we all do enjoy that feeling of community in the CFC that makes us feel like we are valued members of the team. An attack on one of us is an attack on all. This is the key thing where I think politics and diplomacy with the CFC are radically different than in all other alliances. We actually live up to the solidarity we preach. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
God's Apples Space Boats 'N Hoes 1	Posted - 2012.03.21 23:28:00 - [51] - Quote Everyone seems to think, oh my god titans suck now with half tracking and less sensor strength. Honestly, the avatar can almost alpha most BS at around 20k with okay trans and at 50k goodbye BS. Titans can hit MWD'ing cruisers and BC just fine. I can tell you they are not obsolete, now quit your whining.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 888	Posted - 2012.03.22 00:13:00 - [52] - Quote Sapegu wrote: How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance If Biggest guns are nerfed.. 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never! This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures.. Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV.. CCP... WAKE UP!!! Why the heck in the virtual world should a pair of dudes with enough isk coming from whatever activity to buy overpowered tools for the job they were supposed to, rule over 50 other dudes with smaller tools? Because they're smarter? -no Because they're better skilled? -no Because better game knowledge? -no So why then? My fake theory is because those are just little 5 year boys that will never grow up, and like 5 year little boys, will always want to dominate everything by whatever means or they will stop breathing until they're all red...(quit) Suck it up, man up move on or biomass. Why are you incapable of, or what tool in the game you are missing so that you can also have 7000 dudes with you?? Why do you have to feel yourself in some kind of holly mission against a 7000 dudes alliance? You know there are 2 7K+ alliances and several 3 to 4.5k+ right, so where's the problem you see in this 7K one? Can you answer me why you are not capable of having more than 1K dudes??- what's wrong with you? Why should you need something completely game breaking and obviously overpowered to step in front of a 7K man alliance with your 1K alliance unless you have some personal issues of misplaced pride and understanding?
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 247	Posted - 2012.03.22 03:49:00 - [53] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Why should you need something completely game breaking and obviously overpowered to step in front of a 7K man alliance with your 1K alliance unless you have some personal issues of misplaced pride and understanding? We've already established it's pretty dumb. The alliance 7x larger than you will probably have at least 2x, or even 5x of the completely game breaking and obviously overpowered thing that you have, and will just stomp on our face. Besides, goons don't want to conquer eve sov, for one our logistics people suffer horribly when enemies just cascade. leaving behind lots of space that needs POSes, JB, iHub etc etc. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY

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