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Sapegu the muppets RED.OverLord 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:08:00 - [1] - Quote So, How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance? If Biggest guns are nerfed... 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures... Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV... CCP... WAKE UP!!!
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 39	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:15:00 - [2] - Quote (the followign message is not just for the OP but for all the whiny little spergemonkies shitting up the foprums about this right now.) Shut up you whinging little ****. If you seriously think that anyone is pushing for this change simply to benefit goonswarm then youre utterly deluded. Heres a newsflash for you, they depend just as much on supers as every other nullsec entity. Bugger off and stop vomiting braindead conspiracy theories all over the forums, its getting exceedingly tiresome.
Sapegu the muppets RED.OverLord 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:19:00 - [3] - Quote Darek Castigatus wrote: (the followign message is not just for the OP but for all the whiny little spergemonkies shitting up the foprums about this right now.) Shut up you whinging little ****. If you seriously think that anyone is pushing for this change simply to benefit goonswarm then youre utterly deluded. Heres a newsflash for you, they depend just as much on supers as every other nullsec entity. Bugger off and stop vomiting braindead conspiracy theories all over the forums, its getting exceedingly tiresome. Nop, They depend on numbers cause they have no brains for PVP
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 865	Posted - 2012.03.13 21:08:00 - [4] - Quote Sapegu wrote: So, How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance? If Biggest guns are nerfed... 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures... Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV... CCP... WAKE UP!!! Find other alliances and learn how to work together. If you can't pass the 1K man alliance then recruit a-la-goonswarm, go gank them in high sec and tell them that if they want to play your game is either null sec or gtfo Eve doesn't need them. Player driven content. That simple
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1832	Posted - 2012.03.13 21:35:00 - [5] - Quote Sapegu wrote: So, How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance? If Biggest guns are nerfed... 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures... Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV... CCP... WAKE UP!!! If CCP really wanted to help Goons they would disband every alliance with a dot in their name. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
OfBalance Caldari State 159	Posted - 2012.03.13 21:49:00 - [6] - Quote I read OP's name as "spergu."
Piatora Nagrom Security Syndicate Flatline. 114	Posted - 2012.03.13 22:10:00 - [7] - Quote The Preparation-H is in aisle 3. It might soothe the butthurt a little bit.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 225	Posted - 2012.03.14 04:26:00 - [8] - Quote Someone seems to forget that goons also happen to have CSAAs (come whack one some day, see what happens) and that before long your 1000 man alliance would be facing more titans and more everything. It's not like we don't already have a massive head start and a centrally planned system for production of such highly specialized war materiel. Certainly not like we don't have proportionally larger sources of income and all that. No, the Mittani eats all the tech. Well until it gets nerfed I guess. We're all dirt poor because of our space communism, I mean. Sure, but the commissariat knows bees need guns to fight. That and some people just have too much isk after all this time. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2012.03.14 04:57:00 - [9] - Quote no next will come stacking penalties to damage done and remote repair... that way 40 mael or 400 maels will be doing the same alpha on one target...
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 225	Posted - 2012.03.14 05:35:00 - [10] - Quote That's grea, we can split up fleets and attack 10 systems at once without worrying about being blobbed. Think about it, every 40man advantage you have means you can strike another target. Soon you'll have multiple gangs of 50 ish in every single system held by an enemy all shooting pos in unison. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Powers Sa GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 11	Posted - 2012.03.14 06:16:00 - [11] - Quote This is a fight against old money. Since old money can't actually use money to win their position, they are going to be gimped by organized opinion. We, as a coalition, have the largest fleet of supercaps in the game. So we don't abuse them like PL. So this one time we went over to Russian space to get blobbed by Solar/-A- and pets and we stomped their old money fleets into the dirt. Then they ran like cowardly dogs. We fielded even numbers. Surely we suck at PVP. Please get better and stop posting.
Ivana Twinkle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 120	Posted - 2012.03.14 06:42:00 - [12] - Quote We will eventually cascade anyway, like we always do.
Truce Billis Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 4	Posted - 2012.03.14 07:24:00 - [13] - Quote There are no goons. Goodbye.
Misanthra Alternative Enterprises 44	Posted - 2012.03.14 08:43:00 - [14] - Quote I would ask why a goon whine thread is here and not in caod...but read first post and saw its below even caod's standards.
Addrake Origin. 15	Posted - 2012.03.14 12:33:00 - [15] - Quote What will happen to the CFC: Get really big, become bloated, lose #'s due to innactivity, be revitalized for a short period due to some invasion, go back to playing Hello Kitty Online, implode. Either that or alliances will realize after taking over 3/4 of the map that they are lacking any content due to everyone around them being blue, and they either have to separate or die in the above manner. As it was before, so shall it be again. So say we all.
Pheusia Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 14	Posted - 2012.03.14 15:02:00 - [16] - Quote Sapegu wrote: So, How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance? If Biggest guns are nerfed... 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures... Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV... CCP... WAKE UP!!! The "we plucky rebels need titans to fight darth mittens and the evil goon empire" argument falls down when the plucky rebels actually blue each other into a massive map-spanning coalition that controls half the map.
Trask II Hard Knocks Inc. 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 15:29:00 - [17] - Quote I feel your pain bro. I had my titan fleet all ready to take out the Goons, then poof, they automatically win thanks to CCP making other ships matter. Damn them and their favoritism.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 104	Posted - 2012.03.14 15:37:00 - [18] - Quote If you have any ability at math you'll notice that a tracking Erubus still has better tracking than an alpha Mael. I'm sure they will live really.
Bent Barrel 45	Posted - 2012.03.14 15:41:00 - [19] - Quote Sapegu wrote: So, How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance? If Biggest guns are nerfed... 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures... Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV... CCP... WAKE UP!!! omg what brilliant logic ... if they are not nerfed, the bigger alliance will have more of them anyway ... check mate ?
Khanh'rhh One Man Rodgering 852	Posted - 2012.03.14 17:01:00 - [20] - Quote It's a fun game to read these whine posts when you realise the whiners can barely spell or make a coherent argument. We need to move past "my ship is bigger I should win" and look at better avenues for alliances to disrupt others operations. The problem with your thinking is it's basically the WOW mentality: Level 80 and best gear or GTFO. Eve has never been like that. Eve should never be like that. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's
Smiling Menace Star Nebulae Holdings Inc. 181	Posted - 2012.03.14 18:07:00 - [21] - Quote I think you guys are being too critical of the OP. I can feel his pain. So, how about helping this poor chap out, Gewns? I suggest to help them 'compete' post-Titan nerf, you should give them some of your noobs or pets. WI(dot) or TEST might help them achiev...oh wait, maybe not.
WARBRO Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1	Posted - 2012.03.14 21:41:00 - [22] - Quote As the universe of eve has shown over and over the super huge alliances can't last. Typically they implode due to internal strife, boredom at having no good fights and general malaise. I for one welcome our new goon overlords. Look at BOB, Atlas, and even goons 18 months ago. So please OP, sit down, shut up and go back to high sec.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 867	Posted - 2012.03.14 21:46:00 - [23] - Quote WARBRO wrote: As the universe of eve has shown over and over the super huge alliances can't last. Typically they implode due to internal strife, boredom at having no good fights and general malaise. I for one welcome our new goon overlords. Look at BOB, Atlas, and even goons 18 months ago. So please OP, sit down, shut up and go back to high sec. +1 @OP To grow in numbers you might as well start by spare some isk instead of keeping it for you and only your good friends. You cry about a shot you gave your self right between the eye, suck it up and become a better man than you are today because your shameless tears are just delicious.
Diomidis Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED 38	Posted - 2012.03.14 22:19:00 - [24] - Quote EVE is too "defensive" a lot of years now... Leaving nothing to chance - its 99% "if I cannot win without losing a single ship of my gang I won't fight", and making more and more blob friendly is too boring...boring even for the blobs, though they won't admit it - they prefer spending hours forming up to get 1/20 the kills vs. fleet size, than having fun roams with less people, more variety, more risk. That's fine on one hand, should CCP wasn't trying to sell the variety/sandbox moto so hard... You have to conform to very strict rules to beat the above mentality, and usually it ends up being a mammal (us, the predators) vs. reptile (the silly blobbing turtles) fight - the cold-blooded turtle will out-last your patience and win the "Fight", by not giving it. "War does not determine who is right - only who is left." -- Bertrand Russell
Gloomy Gus GoonWaffe 240	Posted - 2012.03.14 23:40:00 - [25] - Quote Go Goons! Sincerely, Gloomy Gus, Spaceship Pilot. This post has been signed and sealed by Gloomy Gus, poster on an internet space ship forum entitled EVE: Gate. All Rights Reserved.
Ganthrithor GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 147	Posted - 2012.03.14 23:46:00 - [26] - Quote It's me, I rule.
SpaceSquirrels 268	Posted - 2012.03.15 01:30:00 - [27] - Quote Um I dont see how small alliances can afford to blob supers...yet major ones can't?,,, Or dont? Assuming this were true wouldnt they just figure it out stop using massive small fleets and just blob supers or dreads to counter? They certainly have the resources to make the needed tactic change.
Tinu Moorhsum Royal Scientific Research Enterprise 75	Posted - 2012.03.15 02:51:00 - [28] - Quote Sapegu wrote: So, How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance? If Biggest guns are nerfed... 1000 men Alliance cannot overpower 7000 men alliance... never!! This game is not evoluting but being nerfed for goons pleasures... Goons... you have the path clear to conquer EVE SOV... CCP... WAKE UP!!! 1) The CFC have more titans than you think they do and it might surprise you to find this out but their titans got the same nerf yours did..... With this one weapon becoming less over-powered against subcaps you'll just have to learn how to pvp in other ships. I know it's going to be a big adjustment but -A- beat you with conventional tactics and believe it or not, those are skills that can be learned. 2) The biggest mistake a corp or alliance in the game can make is to believe that they have something to lose. The most successful alliances are the ones who move, develop and change as the game develops. You've lived in those back water systems (or at least your bots have) for so long that it's hard for you to imagine a new type of game where people actually roam through your space and you have to fight them. The reason Goons win a lot of fights isn't because they bring big numbers (ok, not ONLY that) but because they've been learning to fight while RA has been picking fluff out of it's collective navel. What's going to happen now that -A- kicked you out into Querious is that you're going to have to learn how to play the game in a new way. That's a fact and you're just going to have to adjust to a new reality. And frankly, I wouldn't worry about Goons. Every time one alliance gets too big, others band together to make sure it doesn't become a permanent problem. Every super-alliance in this game has had it's ups and downs (including Goons) and that's not going to change at all because titan tracking was adjusted. Eventually you'll learn how to fight without them and win. T-
Cyniac Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance 175	Posted - 2012.03.15 02:57:00 - [29] - Quote Sapegu wrote: How can a small alliance overpower a bigger alliance? Sun Tzu wrote: Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. We're talking about goons here - shouldn't be too difficult.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2949	Posted - 2012.03.15 03:03:00 - [30] - Quote black thorne alliance shitbird quoting ~Sun Tzu~ this thread can only go uphill "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012

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