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Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 02:36:00 - [1] Edited by: Angelonico on 26/06/2008 02:40:04 It has come to my attention that my faction is severely out gunned and outclassed. I'd like to start out by complimenting my opponents (minnies), as their organization, numbers, and quality of ships far outclass us. I've had an awful lot of fun leading t1 cruisers ops into your *****cages and, for the most part, minnies have been relatively smack free (mirrogod being the loud 14-year-old exception.) Then again there's always one smacktard for every alliance, why should faction war be any different? To the point: Amarr needs you. We're getting our tails handed to us and have roughly 1/5th the active pilots of our opponents. If anyone was considering joining a faction, wants a LOT of targets, and to face good opponents... sign up. It's been an awful lot of fun leading even though our teeth keep getting kicked in. Once again, respect to my opponents who have done an excellent job across the board - and thanks to all my loyal little brosefs who keep leeroying with me. Free exotic dancers and a lapdance from yours truly upon signing up. o/ CAOD Edited for drunk spelling. And to reaffirm that I offer no excuse to our getting our butt's kicked - our opponents are doing a terrific job. Just asking for some support :)
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 02:38:00 - [2] Also, my brother did it.
Mr Ignitious Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 02:38:00 - [3] Edited by: Mr Ignitious on 26/06/2008 02:39:43 first post! edit: angel ninja'd me! And i agree, thanks for the targets minnis, all the fights have been fun thus far. Cmon bois, lets get a move on, its really not that hard
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 02:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Mr Ignitious first post! Quoting fail.
Zyralien The New World of Eve	Posted - 2008.06.26 02:40:00 - [5] Aye, if one wants to get into fight, we're the faction for it. There are always plenty of enemies, we have numerous competent FCs, and enough spies in our militia channel to just have to ASK for an enemy fleet to join us. ^^ Anyway, if you want fun, this is the place to be. GL HF -Zyralien
Golanth	Posted - 2008.06.26 02:44:00 - [6] Edited by: Golanth on 26/06/2008 02:45:19 YARR!! LEEEEROOOOOYYYY JEEEEEEENNKINS!! Loyal member of the Amarrian Militia Now, more to the point, I agree - it's been a blast, our minmatar opponents have put up a great fight, and I've enjoyed losing each and every one of my ships to them. Join amarr, we've got targets!
Jar Kafari	Posted - 2008.06.26 02:45:00 - [7] Been on a couple of ops so far and i must say although ive lost a few(easily replaceable)ships ive enjoyed every miniute of it.
Crux Australis MotorSaikol LadrUNZ	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:04:00 - [8] Free bump for the Lord of the TubesÖ At the moment the dirty slavers need some help: help them to bring it more!
Nhoj Sllew Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:07:00 - [9] can i have my slave fight for me? I RP EWOK
rValdez5987 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:12:00 - [10] Its a blast. We have been partially out of the war effort the last couple days recuperating, but we are returning 100% in the coming days. If you want fights, and perhaps minmatard capital kills, our militia is the place to be. (they once had 7 carriers undocked )
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:16:00 - [11] Is CVA activly supporting the militia? Atlas Fleet Admiral Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader Stop banning me please
Sarovin Faint Corp	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:19:00 - [12] hmm have u seen the alliance recruitment area in the forums? the way this thread is going its bound to get moved there. Wiseman of the Galaxy
Bacchanalian Stimulus	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:22:00 - [13] Originally by: dastommy79 Is CVA activly supporting the militia? Only in token fashion, unfortunately. Alliances can't join FW and they don't wanna nuke their sec status, so their hands are tied a bit. ____________________ GM Sunshine > oops Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:24:00 - [14] Edited by: Angelonico on 26/06/2008 03:25:50 Originally by: dastommy79 Is CVA activly supporting the militia? No, and frankly it's really annoying. we are the only faction who is lacking support from established entities. CVA where the heck are you? Need back up! Originally by: Sarovin hmm have u seen the alliance recruitment area in the forums? the way this thread is going its bound to get moved there. This isn't simply recruitment. This is a report on the state of the war - us getting our asses kicked - and me complimenting my enemies who are doing a terrific job. Who would have guessed amarr would be the weakest of the four?
Esenem 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:38:00 - [15] Edited by: Esenem on 26/06/2008 03:44:25 Edited by: Esenem on 26/06/2008 03:44:09 LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROY!!!!11!!!11!!!omg11111eleventyone!!!1! Fly Amarr (even if you're not)...because Internet Spaceships are serious buzzziness! MOAR DOTS! EDIT: In all seriousness, we're having a ton of fun....
Mr Ignitious Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:38:00 - [16] But thats cuz we love the odds!
Sarovin Faint Corp	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:38:00 - [17] heh i wouldve guessed it when they came out with the ship flying stats on the economic report last quarter, amarr was at the bottom of the list good luck tho Wiseman of the Galaxy
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Sarovin heh i wouldve guessed it when they came out with the ship flying stats on the economic report last quarter, amarr was at the bottom of the list good luck tho Thank you. With me as an FC we'll need it.
Fel Wrath	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:46:00 - [19] Mad fraps Angelonico
Dianeces The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: ROF''''''''''''''''''''L Edited by: ROF''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''L on 26/06/2008 03:51:16 if it werent for NANOS amarr would be doing a lot better Pretty good troll here :) Hey pandemic legion, can you help a brother out? We need yooz I got these cheeseburgers.... I like cheeseburgers. Just sayin'.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 04:01:00 - [21] Considering bob can't do it, I don't think it's happening :P GL though, always had a hard on for PL - pound for pound nastiest alliance in game imho. Cheers.
ROF''''''''''''''''''''L Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.06.26 04:03:00 - [22] Originally by: Angelonico Considering bob can't do it, I don't think it's happening :P GL though, always had a hard on for PL - pound for pound nastiest alliance in game imho. Cheers. hear that bob? faction warfare guy says bob cant kick us out of fountain! ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THAT LYING DOWN snip. Signature removed as it is excessively distracting. Mail us at [email protected] if you have any further queries - Valorem
Esenem 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment	Posted - 2008.06.26 04:04:00 - [23] Originally by: Ariko Gunaris How is this a surprise? Most Amarr ships suck (still) save a few exceptions A bunch of t1 fit omens ate thru a t2 fitted cyclone, a truck load of hurricanes and a bunch of other nicely kitted out minmitar uberness on the last Angel Op I was on.... If that sucks, BRING ON MORE OF IT! We're having a blast dragging our sorry asses all over minmitar space.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 04:07:00 - [24] Originally by: ROF''''''''''''''''''''L hear that bob? faction warfare guy says bob cant kick us out of fountain! ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THAT LYING DOWN I thought I was "my brosef!" guy :(
Mr Ignitious Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 04:23:00 - [25] pandemic atleast has some sweet pvp vids the ranis one was actually quite sick
Severe Admin Blind Industries	Posted - 2008.06.26 04:31:00 - [26] fw sux the op sux and this thread sux. o/
Grath Telkin Evolving Paradigms	Posted - 2008.06.26 04:36:00 - [27] Originally by: Severe Admin fw sux the op sux and this thread sux. o/ and your still an idiot, so all must be right with the world
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 04:49:00 - [28] Originally by: Severe Admin fw sux the op sux and this thread sux. o/ This post.
shiamizu	Posted - 2008.06.26 06:19:00 - [29] Edited by: shiamizu on 26/06/2008 06:23:30 I wanna join you just for the sheer amount of targets but your customs don't like me sobs oh, and I'm also in minnie militia atm... but maybe we can still be friends?
Golanth	Posted - 2008.06.26 06:22:00 - [30] Good fights had by all so far, but where are CVA and PIE? I thought they were amarr roleplayers?
Mr Ignitious Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 06:23:00 - [31] Edited by: Mr Ignitious on 26/06/2008 06:23:19 CVA: you should blow up the carriers they drop on us. Would make me giggle. Edit: they drop them on our t1 cruiser fleets... usually we're dead before they can get it on us though
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 06:35:00 - [32] Edited by: Angelonico on 26/06/2008 06:35:00 Originally by: Golanth Good fights had by all so far, but where are CVA and PIE? I thought they were amarr roleplayers? Damn good question? Where the **** are our allies? Great role playing guys -watching your "brothers" get their faces raped. Also lol at our 30 man suicide t1 cruiser op getting hot dropped.
Krystian Luminaire Atrocity	Posted - 2008.06.26 06:52:00 - [33] CVA, PIE and Aegis Militia - save your fellow subjects who are being defeated by crazy slaves with knives Send some isk and ships their way. As for the Caldari front I will ask our command for anything we can spare. Perhaps you are being tested tho for CVA, PIE and AM have been at war with the UK and their friends long before the nations officially declared war. They might be waiting for the right moment to strike too.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 07:13:00 - [34] Originally by: Krystian CVA, PIE and Aegis Militia - save your fellow subjects who are being defeated by crazy slaves with knives Send some isk and ships their way. As for the Caldari front I will ask our command for anything we can spare. Perhaps you are being tested tho for CVA, PIE and AM have been at war with the UK and their friends long before the nations officially declared war. They might be waiting for the right moment to strike too. Waiting to sweep in and take all the credit my ass. Help us now or there will be nothing left to save. Also, do a barrel roll.
Horizon Taker	Posted - 2008.06.26 07:57:00 - [35] Edited by: Horizon Taker on 26/06/2008 07:58:51 Confirmed. We can only take out so many Battleships in t1 cruiser raids. Domi #1 Domi #2 Mega #1 Mega #2 Raven Imagine if we had real support. Hell, I don't even know what being able to take down a capital would do for us, nevermind having any of our own. And that's just 1 or 2's nights worth of cruiser raids.
Hey You Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.06.26 08:03:00 - [36] Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Sarovin heh i wouldve guessed it when they came out with the ship flying stats on the economic report last quarter, amarr was at the bottom of the list good luck tho Thank you. With me as an FC we'll need it. You are FC oh dear poor my Race... __________________________________ We Ride Together We Die Together We Few, We Happy Few...
Krystian Luminaire Atrocity	Posted - 2008.06.26 08:04:00 - [37] Originally by: Angelonico Waiting to sweep in and take all the credit my ass. Help us now or there will be nothing left to save. Also, do a barrel roll. You wont get aid from anyone with that attitude. Times may be desperate my Caldari brother but lashing out at your potential benefactors is no way to receive help. With such words I can see why help hasn't been more forthcoming.
shanda captison The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.06.26 08:08:00 - [38] The minmatar are using spies, nanos and hot drops you say? That is really unfair and shouldnt be allowed. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Dapanman1 Beets and Gravy Syndicate The InterBus Initiative	Posted - 2008.06.26 08:14:00 - [39] Originally by: Hey You Originally by: Angelonico Thank you. With me as an FC we'll need it. You are FC oh dear poor my Race... Yeah gg us rite... I might poke my head in there if I start to log in more than twice a week. Amarr Victor all the same. Also, Mr. PL apostrophe guy thanks for all teh **** you and your alts used to sell in G-TT. GT-T? GTT-? Sig removed for inappropriate content.~~~Applebabe
Asuka Smith The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.06.26 08:41:00 - [40] NERF NANOS FURTHERMORE,
Rodj Blake PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.26 09:53:00 - [41] Originally by: Angelonico I expected PIE to be more active. We've been pretty active, it's just that we decided early on that we wouldn't be coordinating our operations through the militia channel. As such, I suspect that we've been under most people's radar. Feel free to contact me in game if you want to be kept up to speed on our precise activities. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 10:43:00 - [42] Edited by: Angelonico on 26/06/2008 10:46:22 Originally by: Rodj Blake We've been pretty active, it's just that we decided early on that we wouldn't be coordinating our operations through the militia channel. As such, I suspect that we've been under most people's radar. Feel free to contact me in game if you want to be kept up to speed on our precise activities. My apologies, my corp is only a week into the war - and others have confirmed there has been PIE participation. I was a bit miffed when I wrote the post and you were hit by a stray bullet. Cheers. I looking forward to working with you in the future. I've heard nothing but good things. Originally by: Hey You You are FC oh dear poor my Race... You're in DICE, know your role.
O Thief The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:02:00 - [43] Yeah, would be nice if the Amarr side had more willing participants.
hammyhamm GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:03:00 - [44] Maybe the Amarr should start working more closely with their Caldari faction buddies, that could help you out :p
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:04:00 - [45] Originally by: hammyhamm Maybe the Amarr should start working more closely with their Caldari faction buddies, that could help you out :p Suportin dis. Also we need bees.
Anton Marx Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:09:00 - [46] I hear some of our best PvPers have established a FW corp that is part of the glorious Amarr Empire. What else do you need? AAA Titan brigade? DESTROYED Against ALL Authorities блять! (c) Ivan Wise
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:11:00 - [47] Originally by: Anton Marx I hear some of our best PvPers have established a FW corp that is part of the glorious Amarr Empire. What else do you need? AAA Titan brigade? I told you. Bees. Every throw bees at someone?
ceyriot Entropians on Vacation	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:14:00 - [48] Originally by: Dianeces I like cheeseburgers. Just sayin'. I like Cheesematarburgers. No dukt teip kthx. Just sayin' Faction Store - Killboard
hammyhamm GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:15:00 - [49] Originally by: Angelonico Also we need bees. I'm pretty sure that won't happen, sorry dude :(
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:17:00 - [50] Edited by: Angelonico on 26/06/2008 11:17:16 Originally by: hammyhamm Originally by: Angelonico Also we need bees. I'm pretty sure that won't happen, sorry dude :( Not goons. I mean actual bees. Edit - laser bees.
Aaron Mirrorsaver Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:37:00 - [51] hey whats going on here? C.E.O. Go Hard, or go Home.
shiamizu	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:39:00 - [52] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver hey whats going on here? 'sup homie?
Melchiorre The Scope	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:41:00 - [53] I will sign up! Only if I get to hot drop some poor fleet lol. Sorry to hear the war is not going so well Angel, maybe I come back now and start kicking some ass with you, even though I am gallente, fly matar, and dont want to move my gear out of Gallente space. Eve mail me in game and let me know where to go plz. Also for all you who read this and dont know, Angel is a crazy FC, very competant, have been flying with him for almost 2 years now. The war for the Amarr can be turned around, you just got to talk to your buddies and get them to sign up. Also any fellow cap pilots fighting for the Amarr, maybe it time to we start bringing out our own big ships :O
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:48:00 - [54] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver hey whats going on here? I'm not sure at this point, but I think it's something involving lazer bees. Also melch get your butt back here.
Siddy Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake	Posted - 2008.06.26 12:03:00 - [55] Edited by: Siddy on 26/06/2008 12:02:49 Originally by: dastommy79 Is CVA activly supporting the militia? CVA is happy chaining NPC's in they merry carebear land of providence, that NO ONE ELSE WANTS, to care abaut the actual AMARR space. CVA = PHAIL!!!!! ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty...
kc51 Armada.	Posted - 2008.06.26 12:06:00 - [56] Yes it is true that we are outgunned. But I have a question for anyone who can join up with Amarr Militia. Have you ever wanted to kill something but knew it was gonna be a long day before you would actually get ONE kill? Since we are undermanned, it is easy to find a fight. Within minutes you can find a fight, whether it be the blob, 2 peeps to kill or whatever. Minutes is all it would take and it is hella fun. Its only a couple jumps from empire space so replacement or buying those specific modules or ammo is no problem. 1.0 systems is not the only place that you can buy those items if you catch my drift. So what are you waiting for? Want some good fun and rack up on those killmails? Join the Amarr Militia and you will get your fights, GUARANTEED!!!!
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 12:11:00 - [57] Our traditional enemies like U'K and Stimulus can dedicate 100% of their resources to this whilst we can't. We've identified a number of other factors as well that don't bode well for the Amarr Militias including Lack of leadership and organisation. Certainly in the first week or two, though not sure about now Pirate corps have joined the minmatar side, with a snowball effect whereby for those looking for low sec pvp action, minmatar has become the militia of choice And also various other things that for security reasons we can't reveal. We're not some magic bullet to solve all the problems of the Amarr Militias. We can offer advice and some help and of course we have Providence region, where the Amarr Militias can come, restock and get some RnR and Minmatar militia and other hostile forces can't follow (provided you follow our NRDS system)
kc51 Armada.	Posted - 2008.06.26 12:19:00 - [58] Originally by: Spoon Thumb We're not some magic bullet to solve all the problems of the Amarr Militias. We can offer advice and some help and of course we have Providence region, where the Amarr Militias can come, restock and get some RnR and Minmatar militia and other hostile forces can't follow (provided you follow our NRDS system) Well, as stated above, something is better than nothing, so from me and not sure what anyone else would say, thanks for what you can help out with. I do understand.
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 12:19:00 - [59] Edited by: Spoon Thumb on 26/06/2008 12:20:45 (edited) Originally by: Siddy Edited by: Siddy on 26/06/2008 12:02:49 Originally by: dastommy79 Is CVA activly supporting the militia? CVA is happy chaining NPC's in they merry carebear land of providence, that NO ONE ELSE WANTS, to care abaut the actual AMARR space. CVA = PHAIL!!!!! Actually, Amarr militia are invited to come and happily chain BS spawn rent free all day long if they want
Jones Bones Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.06.26 12:22:00 - [60] Minmatar are the Caldari of the west, or something like that. Militia chat: "OMG 3 WTs in Kamela!" Response: BLOB WITH 50! And I've seen the carriers get hotdropped on cruiser/BC gangs. While I compliment the Heretics with their PVP prowess, the hotdropping is ridiculous. It's funny cause all the former carebears in militia chat beat their chests and talk about how much they pwn the Amarr. But try to get them to go to Caldari space and they wet their little carebear pants. Buncha jelly in a blob. A well formed Amarr nano or RR gang could wipe out most of the larger Minnie blobs. But as it stays I think I'm moving to Old Man Star. Better chance for fights and less blobbing.
Grr Epitoth Fleetyards Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 12:36:00 - [61] RE the original post, the Amarr are outgunned but never outclassed. Epitoth Fleetyards is Recruiting
DeadDuck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 12:55:00 - [62] Originally by: dastommy79 Is CVA activly supporting the militia? Not much as we would want. Speaking on a strict personnel point of view, the most negative aspect for me is the fact that my sec status will be nuked on a couple of days if I'm involved in the fights in the Bleak Lands. Saying this, if CVA leadership decides that we are going to be involved on a more direct way, things of course will be diferent. For now is wait and see, I guess. ________________ God is my Wingman
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2008.06.26 14:31:00 - [63] Edited by: NeoTheo on 26/06/2008 14:31:25 mirrorgod is fighting for the mimi's ? MIRROR SAY IT AINT SO BRO :) Neotheo Dark Materials Linkage
Charles Kuralt Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 14:51:00 - [64] Originally by: Bacchanalian Originally by: dastommy79 Is CVA activly supporting the militia? Only in token fashion, unfortunately. Alliances can't join FW and they don't wanna nuke their sec status, so their hands are tied a bit. Quoting and agreeing with a Stimulus in a CAOD thread That pretty much nails it. Also those of CVA who specialize in Inty or recon piloting find it very difficult to engage at gates as gate guns will bbq us.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 15:31:00 - [65] Angelonico, you would do well to understand CVA better and FW mechanics better before trolling. Our primary mission (our years-long roleplay) is the expansion of Amarrian interests into Providence. FW doesn't change that. CCP does not set the pace of our roleplay; we do. That's the beauty of a sandbox game. Jumping head-first into FW would lower our patrols in Providence, allowing gangs like the 28-man nanosquad that we chased out in the early morning hours Eve-time today to run amok. For us, our sovereignty in that space means something; like, the fact that we are present and capable of defending the space. It's not just a bunch of towers and outposts. Jumping head-first into FW would also cause sec status issues. Then there's the issue of ships. The vessels CVA would be able to secure gates with are not capable of entering a good number of plexes. The ships that would be capable of entering those plexes are not capable of securing gates due to gate-guns. So then we're a bit stuck: we can defend militia gangs by securing gates...but the enemy (who are proving smart and capable as I understand it) can simply reship to vessels that can scoot past us in a hurry and get into the plex we can't enter and kill Amarr militia ships while we can't defend. Or we can have lower class ships, and instead of defending gates, we can defend 'plexes directly...but have absolutely no way to control who comes into the system and from which direction. We could of course bring large enough fleets to be able to accomplish both gate security and 'plex security...but then what's happening in Providence? Large nanogangs running around killing people we've set a precident of defending for years. We have a mission of our own. We're not obligated to drop everything in Providence to come play in FW, and if you joined FW thinking that was the case, that's your mistake. Blaming us for the current status of the Amarr/Minmatar conflict is a terribly cheap cop-out. Sometimes you've gotta fight from behind: enjoy the challenge. Meanwhile, CVA will continue to run our patrols...and might even join your gangs if you can keep yourself and other Series of Tubes pilots from pointlessly smacking Minmatar Militia pilots in local or slagging off CVA on the forums.
Bacchanalian Stimulus	Posted - 2008.06.26 15:48:00 - [66] Garreck, honest question. Why not look into wardeccing a handful of the Minnie corps? That'd free you up from the sec status issue, would also likely force Minnie militia members into making mistakes and firing under sentry guns, and would cause disruption and confusion even if you only made two trips a week to the FW lowsec. It would completely nullify any arguments about sec status, ship selection, etc, and also would provide your members somewhere to go shoot stuff on the days that Providence isn't being harassed enough to force CVA's hand. It's also not like the lowsec is so far from Providence that your members couldn't make a hasty retreat back to Providence to defend the region, either. Just wanted to echo what I'd posted on SHC since I'd not seen you answer it yet. ____________________ GM Sunshine > oops Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 15:55:00 - [67] Originally by: Bacchanalian Why not look into wardeccing a handful of the Minnie corps? It's definitely being looked into, but one of the factors the wardec option doesn't address is simply "what does this do to further our mission?" Aralis is practical first, last, and always. A few of us warhawks banging on about wardecs isn't going to just get us one. If the Amarr situation continues to get worse, it may become a roleplay imperative...but for now, it's simply not our front. And we do, of course, have an alt corp fired up that is a member of the militia...but we're not going to cycle out all of our pvp-ers just for some fun pew pew in the Bleaklands. Nothing in the CVA is done precipitously...well, nothing on a strategic level. I might precipitously do a lot of things, but that has no effect on CVA, haha. Waiting and watching is a lot of what we do before making a big decision. When, in our waiting and watching, the potential beneficiaries of our decisions start flaming us for not doing what they want us to do...that might affect the decision as well.
Mr Ignitious Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.26 16:19:00 - [68] 1. If you decide to dec a corp or two, outbreak would be a solid target, TOXIN bs fleets 2. "MIRRORGOD IS PRIMARY, MIRRORGOD IS PRIMARY! WHY ISN"T HE MELTING!??!" 3. o/ Aaron! come pew pew!
Bacchanalian Stimulus	Posted - 2008.06.26 16:46:00 - [69] Originally by: Garreck When, in our waiting and watching, the potential beneficiaries of our decisions start flaming us for not doing what they want us to do...that might affect the decision as well. To be fair to Angelonico, he's one of the only leadership figures in the US timezones for the Amarrians, and what he's doing is akin to herding cats. He's taking pilots with less PvP experience than your average Citadel member (and that's saying something--most of Angel's troops haven't even seen a nanogang before he takes them out to fight) out in t1 cruisers against superior scouting, ships, experience, and firepower, and motivating them to see if they can take out an expensive ship or two before dying. It's like a morbid Agony fleet. They expect to die, and in fact he spends a solid 15 minutes leading up to the initial plunge into lowsec repeating to everyone in the gang that they're going to die, he intends to get them all killed, get over it now. Meanwhile, the Minnies set up shop and wait for them and basically watch the Amarrian fleets impale themselves on the Minmatar fleet. Sometimes the Minnies lose an expensive ship or two, sometimes they are unlucky to lose even a Rifter. I don't blame him for being frustrated, tbh. His finger-pointing may be misguided, but his frustration is justified. ____________________ GM Sunshine > oops Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 16:56:00 - [70] Originally by: Bacchanalian To be fair to Angelonico, he's one of the only leadership figures in the US timezones for the Amarrians, and what he's doing is akin to herding cats. He's taking pilots with less PvP experience than your average Citadel member (and that's saying something--most of Angel's troops haven't even seen a nanogang before he takes them out to fight) out in t1 cruisers against superior scouting, ships, experience, and firepower, and motivating them to see if they can take out an expensive ship or two before dying. He should be doing it because it's fun, not to get his blood pressure up and then blame someone else that it's not fun. And he certainly shouldn't be blaming an organization that has work-around options but is ultimately limited on direct-impact to FW.
MirrorGod Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.06.26 17:49:00 - [71] Edited by: MirrorGod on 26/06/2008 17:54:59 I'm the loud 14 year old apparently. Not sure what earned me that, I tend not to smack much. I will do some in-character talk, such as "you're empire will burn" and "where is your god now", but that's kind of just for lulz. As far as I know, we've held the field on every incursion from amarrians, and I've been having a great time. I actually want to thank Angelonico, he keeps rallying the amarrians and brings us the fights, I'm not sure why he dislikes me so much. I won't flaunt the wreckage screen shots or other stats, I just want to say that I've done it all, from Merc work to piracy to 0.0 to POS killing, and northing's been half as enjoyable as Factional Warfare. Props to CCP, props to the amarr faction for keeping the fights coming and a big props to all the minmatar guys who keep x'ing up. Despite what many say about how "it's all empire care bears who don't know how to fight", almost everyone in my gangs really knows what they're doing and have the right additude. The ones who don't learn very fast and are always eager to learn more. Recruitment: [ANTI]
FOFOFOF CRAPSTORM	Posted - 2008.06.26 18:02:00 - [72] Edited by: FOFOFOF on 26/06/2008 18:02:57 Originally by: Garreck Edited by: Garreck on 26/06/2008 16:57:44 Originally by: Bacchanalian To be fair to Angelonico, he's one of the only leadership figures in the US timezones for the Amarrians, and what he's doing is akin to herding cats. He's taking pilots with less PvP experience than your average Citadel member (and that's saying something--most of Angel's troops haven't even seen a nanogang before he takes them out to fight) out in t1 cruisers against superior scouting, ships, experience, and firepower, and motivating them to see if they can take out an expensive ship or two before dying. He should be doing it because it's fun, not to get his blood pressure up and then blame someone else that it's not fun. And he certainly shouldn't be blaming an organization that has work-around options but is ultimately limited on direct-impact to FW (and has well-recorded responsibilities elsewhere.) I think you misunderstood the guy, he is not pointing fingers and saying CVA is to blame, he is just pointing out that they are badly needing support and that minnies have way more professional corps at their side. Maybe, and only maybe, CVA could help to hot-drop minnie carrier fleets, but again, you stated your reasons. The other guys ITT are flaming CVA, not the op, he is beign nice and should be congratulated for taking the effort to lead the militia. On the other side, OP, get some blue standings and try to use Providence region, maybe getting some industrial help to your fellow militia members.
munchy Prison Break Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.26 18:05:00 - [73] Originally by: Jones Bones Minmatar are the Caldari of the west, or something like that. Militia chat: "OMG 3 WTs in Kamela!" Response: BLOB WITH 50! And I've seen the carriers get hotdropped on cruiser/BC gangs. While I compliment the Heretics with their PVP prowess, the hotdropping is ridiculous. It's funny cause all the former carebears in militia chat beat their chests and talk about how much they pwn the Amarr. But try to get them to go to Caldari space and they wet their little carebear pants. Buncha jelly in a blob. A well formed Amarr nano or RR gang could wipe out most of the larger Minnie blobs. But as it stays I think I'm moving to Old Man Star. Better chance for fights and less blobbing. try telling 50 pvpers that only 3 of them are allowed on the km's... ---
Horizon Taker	Posted - 2008.06.26 18:40:00 - [74] Originally by: Garreck Jumping head-first into FW would also cause sec status issues. Then there's the issue of ships. The vessels CVA would be able to secure gates with are not capable of entering a good number of plexes. The ships that would be capable of entering those plexes are not capable of securing gates due to gate-guns. So then we're a bit stuck: we can defend militia gangs by securing gates...but the enemy (who are proving smart and capable as I understand it) can simply reship to vessels that can scoot past us in a hurry and get into the plex we can't enter and kill Amarr militia ships while we can't defend. Or we can have lower class ships, and instead of defending gates, we can defend 'plexes directly...but have absolutely no way to control who comes into the system and from which direction. We could of course bring large enough fleets to be able to accomplish both gate security and 'plex security...but then what's happening in Providence? Large nanogangs running around killing people we've set a precident of defending for years. We have a mission of our own. We're not obligated to drop everything in Providence to come play in FW, and if you joined FW thinking that was the case, that's your mistake. Blaming us for the current status of the Amarr/Minmatar conflict is a terribly cheap cop-out. Sometimes you've gotta fight from behind: enjoy the challenge. There are quite a few things that I would like to address that you've written here, as well as a question or two. Firstly, Amarr would have little to no trouble right now securing plex's. This isn't the issue at hand. The issue is the fleets of Tech 2 ships/Battleships that Amarr currently is unable to fight evenly. We can take out the frigates, as well as the cruisers and all of that. Those fights are the fights that we have stood a chance against. However, when Amarr's militia does manage to put up a fleet of battleships, we are vastly outnumbered and out-piloted by our enemies. The times where even still it could be a close fight, Minmatar manages to bring in capital ships and win the fight regaurdless. Amarr has no capital ships whatsoever, and if it did I doubt anyone would be willing to bring them. If you demand respect from Series of Tubes, you will get it, but I think it boils down to giving us something to respect. Angelonico has made it quite clear that he looks up to CVA as an alliance, he wouldn't be begging for help if he wasn't. We can come to some sort of agreement here about this all, but we need to begin talking and making a move towards getting something done before it's too late for all of us. And if Angel can't be civil about it, I'm sure there are far more that will. He, as well as I and many other head figures of the Amarr militia, are just concerned that if we do ask for your (CVA's)assistance, that CVA does not become overbearing. As for my question, I guess that I do not understand the game logistics of you worrying about sec status... Would CVA not join the Amarr militia directly? Or does it not have the sec status to do so? I'm a little lost on this area. And on the issue of sovereignty, Amarr is losing nearly ALL sovereignty it has in low security as a whole. Soon it will be gone. Yes, I understand CVA has territory of it's own, but in the greater picture of it all, Amarr is about to lose it all. What might this mean for CVA? CVA could have a lot to gain from joining this fight, from both a RP and a non RP point of view.
Horizon Taker	Posted - 2008.06.26 18:42:00 - [75] Also, the internet is very, VERY serious business.
Vogue la redoute	Posted - 2008.06.26 19:04:00 - [76] /puts on roleplay horsey outfit Ah but the Amarr get the 'I WIN' button with the Abbadon as shown in the Empyrean Age video
Zaruda Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.26 19:10:00 - [77] This makes me chuckle because of the irony here. I got caught up with my original character in the Eve RP environment around late 2003 or early 2004. For years, even before there was an official 'UK', PIE and Imperial Dreams (now CVA) and others had us beat because it was rare they would fight a skirmish battle, instead bringing out their biggest and best ships in large numbers. And why not bring out the best as the risk of someone actually being able to engage you is very limited. By the time we would be able to get sufficient numbers to feel like we could make a dent (which was rare), they'd have moved on. In all my years in UK, I have yet to see more than a handful of skirmish fights out of any of the RP enemies we had. There is only one I know of (which I was fortunate enough to be a part of) that was really fun. Now here we are 4 years later in faction warfare and the whole thing has flipped. You got Minmatar faction players outnumbering Amarr by what? nearly 2 to 1? CVA appears to be unable to really participate for two reasons: 1) Obligations they put upon themselves in Providence and 2) the mechanics of faction warfare making it difficult although this is also comes from reason 1. Also the whole way faction warfare is working also prevents them from bringing the biggest and baddest ships available too. I am still checking out the whole faction warfare scene but I was in a fairly decent group last night and they seemed familiar with groups like PIE, VV, etc, although not all the fleet members have the history with them that I do. There was several comments about very rarely seeing any of those guys around. However, having said all that, in faction warfare there is still hope for Amarr RPrs, you scum sucking slavers. Fight smarter, not harder. Get those 'more is better, bigger is best' thoughts out of your head. You win 0.0 fights that way. Faction Warfare is a whole different ballgame. There are lots of cheap, simple things you can do to make your fights more effective.
Canock	Posted - 2008.06.26 19:32:00 - [78]
Aaron Mirrorsaver Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.06.26 19:47:00 - [79] Originally by: shiamizu Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver hey whats going on here? 'sup homie? just chillin, refining my posting skills. C.E.O. Go Hard, or go Home.
Mary Pong	Posted - 2008.06.26 19:51:00 - [80] Whats Factional Warfare?
Cpt Constantinus Celestial Janissaries	Posted - 2008.06.26 19:54:00 - [81] Aditional frigs and cruisers wont help you much, in order to make a real difference we would have to join with our mains and not everyone is ready and willing to do this.
Dohl Khrensen Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.06.26 20:08:00 - [82] I have to say props for bringing it to Angelonico and the Amarrian cruiser gangs the last few days. I catch myself being surprised, and then not so much, whenever the call comes in over militia, 'they're back.' '25 WTs in Amamake.' I hope you all keep it up. It has been a blast so far and when you want good fights you know where we'll be. Dohl PS It brought a smile to my face yesterday when Wraith warped in ahead of the Amarrian fleet last night. No fear, man. That's the only way to lead.
Grath Telkin Evolving Paradigms	Posted - 2008.06.26 20:21:00 - [83] Originally by: Dohl Khrensen I have to say props for bringing it to Angelonico and the Amarrian cruiser gangs the last few days. I catch myself being surprised, and then not so much, whenever the call comes in over militia, 'they're back.' '25 WTs in Amamake.' I hope you all keep it up. It has been a blast so far and when you want good fights you know where we'll be. Dohl PS It brought a smile to my face yesterday when Wraith warped in ahead of the Amarrian fleet last night. No fear, man. That's the only way to lead. The funny part is alot of the problem is coming from within the Amarr Militia. Our Militia channel regularly goes above 300, and during US tz it hovers near 200, but 3/4 of the pilots in it believe that fighting you is counter productive, and we should all be plexing our brains out. That schism means you guys see the same 30 people every time, with very little new blood ever joining in the fray. If for nothing else, we could use the help of larger groups like CVA just to help organize the drooling masses, and get us all flowing in the same direction. Plexers being supported by the military (much like the minnie guys do) would be awesome, and effective, but tbh, the plexers seem to want very little to do with the PVP guys in general. At one point, I attempted to raise a fleet and militia chat became a giant flame fest about "why waste your time", and "don't go with Grath, plex instead, save your ships". The militia itself was actually working against me trying to form a fleet. It was amazing. I've gotten lots of compliments over time about my skills as an FC, and I'm loathe to even form a fleet anymore simply because of the bickering that it causes in Militia chat, so i go largely unknown for any leadership role, and am really reluctant to even attempt to assume one, with all the negativity that permeates the alliance. Time and new blood will tell, perhaps the minnies will get sick of lopsided no fun battles and some will swap sides to have more fun (after all, were pretty much fighting for fun), or maybe CVA will drop a few war decs and send a detachment to the area for support, who knows.
Hudsonn A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.06.26 20:30:00 - [84] We might be outnumbered, but we're having loadsa fun ___________________________ Minmatar Rebel
Hudsonn A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.06.26 20:32:00 - [85] BTW. CVA who? We need their help like a whole in the head. ___________________________ Minmatar Rebel
Xile Tsia Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.06.26 21:30:00 - [86] ...Angel, it's bad enough you talk in local, and now on the forums?! plz don't.
Gneeznow North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.06.26 21:33:00 - [87] Originally by: Angelonico Also, my brother did it. BROTHERFRIEND !
My'kel An'jelo Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.06.26 21:39:00 - [88] Edited by: My''kel An''jelo on 26/06/2008 21:38:49 T1 frigate crew reportin' in.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 21:59:00 - [89] Originally by: Horizon Taker If you demand respect from Series of Tubes, you will get it, but I think it boils down to giving us something to respect. The respect issue is largely irrelevant, though "where the hell are you CVA, roleplay the way we expect you to roleplay" is, generally, counterproductive. Originally by: Horizon Taker As for my question, I guess that I do not understand the game logistics of you worrying about sec status... Would CVA not join the Amarr militia directly? Or does it not have the sec status to do so? I'm a little lost on this area. Alliances cannot align with factions. CVA cannot join the war directly. We can (and have considered and may at some point act on those considerations) wardec corporations who have declared support for a faction, but beyond that we have to take sec hits and sentry fire every time we engage a Tribal Liberation Force vessel. Originally by: Horizon Taker And on the issue of sovereignty, Amarr is losing nearly ALL sovereignty it has in low security as a whole. Soon it will be gone. Yes, I understand CVA has territory of it's own, but in the greater picture of it all, Amarr is about to lose it all. What might this mean for CVA? CVA could have a lot to gain from joining this fight, from both a RP and a non RP point of view. A couple of issues with this: first (and this may cause further uproar and completely derail the thread) Amarr is not losing sovereignty in any of their systems. Fly to a Tribal Forces "occupied" system to see what I mean. Second...it's one region of lowsec Amarr space. Not all of it, not even most of it. Just a small portion. The Bleaklands. On the flip side of that, 24th Imperial Crusade pilots and associated corporations are quite free to use space in Providence to catch their breath, set up logistical bases, and generally utilize our region to fight for the Bleaklands (provided they follow "not red, don't shoot" policy.) That's our roleplay: to provide another region that is economically viable to those who value Amarr standards and way of life. Expanding the Empire in our own way. It's not something we're gonna turn from just because CCP introduced a fun new feature. We're having fun doing what we're doing...a lot of other folks are supposedly having fun doing FW. They're both valid means of roleplay. I would suggest folks fighting for the Amarr Empire take advantage of CVA's diligence in Providence rather than spurning it, but that's just me.
Solusar Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 22:52:00 - [90] Originally by: Reza Pluss To the CVA players, srsly: Roll up some alts, jump in frigates or dessies, join a FW corp and come have a blast. We'll be waiting for our lesson in Huola. I didn't spend five years developing Solusar into an annoying arrogant racist religious xenophobe to then start playing as a 10 day old alt. The amount of hate from several people towards my character is fun to deal with. IF FW changes to acutally mean something you will probably see more people getting involved, as it stands its just a very fast way to lose sec status (lost 3 points in one night) while although its fun it has no real impact. Hopefully this will change in the future.
Grath Telkin Evolving Paradigms	Posted - 2008.06.26 23:25:00 - [91] Originally by: Solusar I didn't spend five years developing Solusar into an annoying arrogant racist religious xenophobe to then start playing as a 10 day old alt. The amount of hate from several people towards my character is fun to deal with. IF FW changes to acutally mean something you will probably see more people getting involved, as it stands its just a very fast way to lose sec status (lost 3 points in one night) while although its fun it has no real impact. Hopefully this will change in the future. i think its foolish for us to assume that you would. You have a system, your established, Im more of a mind that its on us to open diplomatic channels with you, not the just expect you to come galloping to the rescue. Perhaps if we actually speak, we can come to some helpful points, but just EXPECTING you to show up is flawed. Things happen, deals get worked, ideas get bounced around, ONLY when we open lines of communication, and trust, and the start of that, lies largely with the militias approaching you in a respectful diplomatic way, not "WHERE THE HELL IS CVA!?!?!"
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.06.26 23:29:00 - [92] Yo I heard some people were "giving props for bringing it", what's that mean again? San Matari Official forums
Grath Telkin Evolving Paradigms	Posted - 2008.06.26 23:31:00 - [93] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Yo I heard some people were "giving props for bringing it", what's that mean again? It means "Thanks for plowing t1 cruiser gangs into 3 to 1 odds against sniper set ups, capital ships, and full t2 support wings ON TOP OF all our younger pilots in frigates and cruisers" And to them all i say: No problem, anytime.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 00:10:00 - [94] Originally by: Canock HAHAHAHAH hi5 on that one. Instead of running away, turn them into t1 cruisers please for realism.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 00:10:00 - [95] Edited by: Angelonico on 27/06/2008 00:12:54 Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Canock HAHAHAHAH hi5 on that one. Instead of running away, turn them into t1 cruisers please for realism. Originally by: Xile Tsia ...Angel, it's bad enough you talk in local, and now on the forums?! plz don't. Who are you again? Oh yeah, the mimmie spy I busted on the first day. Stop posting forever, kthanx. Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Horizon Taker If you demand respect from Series of Tubes, you will get it, but I think it boils down to giving us something to respect. The respect issue is largely irrelevant, though "where the hell are you CVA, roleplay the way we expect you to roleplay" is, generally, counterproductive. No actually it's not. I'm banging pots and pans around in public and calling you out on not supporting your allies (and being bad role players.) Help amarr now or drop the act.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 00:16:00 - [96] Edited by: Angelonico on 27/06/2008 00:18:23 Drunk Double posting FTL.
Arkanjuca R.U.S.T.	Posted - 2008.06.27 01:36:00 - [97] Originally by: Angelonico Edited by: Angelonico on 27/06/2008 00:18:23 Drunk Double posting FTL. Come back tomorrow, that attitude will take you places... -- AF should be like HACs
Luap Noj	Posted - 2008.06.27 01:54:00 - [98] Who do i report to?
Selene Duran Outer Rim Jobs	Posted - 2008.06.27 02:50:00 - [99] Yeah guys quick get to the battlegrounds I need more marks of space honoure to purchase my epic cruisers.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 02:54:00 - [100] Originally by: Selene Duran Yeah guys quick get to the battlegrounds I need more marks of space honoure to purchase my epic cruisers. Best corp name ever. Just sayin. Also we still needz moar backup. Hit me up in game.
rValdez5987 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment	Posted - 2008.06.27 02:55:00 - [101] Personally I am done fooling around. You can expect to see me in large ships from here on out unless im not looking at engaging your fleets head on by myself. Maybe I will have support, maybe not. Either way Im bringing it. As more people begin to think like me, lets see how long your willpower holds.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.27 03:13:00 - [102] Originally by: Angelonico No actually it's not. I'm banging pots and pans around in public and calling you out on not supporting your allies (and being bad role players.) Help amarr now or drop the act. Your opinion on the support of our allies and roleplaying style is noted. Good luck with your campaign, Angelonico. I may not be charmed by your personality, but apparently it's working out fine for you and the folks who fly under you. Feel free to spend some time in Providence if the isk ever runs low.
MirrorGod Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.06.27 03:51:00 - [103] Originally by: Canock I lol'd. Recruitment: [ANTI]
Admiral Pelleon White Shadow Imperium	Posted - 2008.06.27 06:00:00 - [104] Originally by: MirrorGod Edited by: MirrorGod on 26/06/2008 17:58:54 Edited by: MirrorGod on 26/06/2008 17:54:59 I'm the loud 14 year old apparently. Not sure what earned me that, I tend not to smack much. I will do some in-character talk, such as "you're empire will burn" and "where is your god now", but that's kind of just for lulz. As far as I know, we've held the field on every incursion from amarrians, and I've been having a great time. I actually want to thank Angelonico, he keeps rallying the amarrians and brings us the fights, I'm not sure why he dislikes me so much. I won't flaunt the wreckage screen shots or other stats, I just want to say that I've done it all, from Merc work to piracy to 0.0 to POS killing, and nothing's been half as enjoyable as Factional Warfare. Props to CCP, props to the amarr faction for keeping the fights coming and a big props to all the minmatar guys who keep x'ing up. Despite what many say about how "it's all empire care bears who don't know how to fight", almost everyone in my gangs really knows what they're doing and have the right additude. The ones who don't learn very fast and are always eager to learn more. Agreed. We have a solid group of players and decent FC's in the minnie militia. Huge props to the amarr for bringing it over and over again. Still haven't managed to pop my arbitrator yet though! ________ Originally by: Tarminic I believe your mother should have re-rolled her birth control.
Mr Ignitious Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 06:02:00 - [105] mirrorgod down, mirrorgod down!!! http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2952
MirrorGod Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.06.27 06:11:00 - [106] Originally by: Mr Ignitious mirrorgod down, mirrorgod down!!! http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2952 Grats amarrians, figured that suicide frig would get primaried. Recruitment: [ANTI]
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 06:13:00 - [107] Originally by: MirrorGod Originally by: Mr Ignitious mirrorgod down, mirrorgod down!!! http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2952 Grats amarrians, figured that suicide frig would get primaried. To be fair, you were secondary - after the outbreak geddon.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 06:16:00 - [108] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Angelonico No actually it's not. I'm banging pots and pans around in public and calling you out on not supporting your allies (and being bad role players.) Help amarr now or drop the act. Your opinion on the support of our allies and roleplaying style is noted. Good luck with your campaign, Angelonico. I may not be charmed by your personality, but apparently it's working out fine for you and the folks who fly under you. Feel free to spend some time in Providence if the isk ever runs low.
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment	Posted - 2008.06.27 06:20:00 - [109] Today was a blast. More tommorow.
Aindrias Amarr Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.27 07:54:00 - [110] Amarrian Militia at this point, given the arguements of CVA's perspective, would be best served by learning how we deal with Minnie ships from CVA FC's, having had a lot of experience. Also, if you bring Minni Militia to us, we'd be happy to help kill them
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 08:23:00 - [111] Originally by: Aindrias Amarrian Militia at this point, given the arguements of CVA's perspective, would be best served by learning how we deal with Minnie ships from CVA FC's, having had a lot of experience. Also, if you bring Minni Militia to us, we'd be happy to help kill them CVA's FC's are welcome to learn how to fight minnies from me personally by actually showing up and helping. Thanks.
shanda captison The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.06.27 09:01:00 - [112] Yeah come on CVA get to low sec, Providence will take care of itself AAA will never siege it while you're away. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Aindrias Amarr Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.27 10:25:00 - [113] Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Aindrias Amarrian Militia at this point, given the arguements of CVA's perspective, would be best served by learning how we deal with Minnie ships from CVA FC's, having had a lot of experience. Also, if you bring Minni Militia to us, we'd be happy to help kill them CVA's FC's are welcome to learn how to fight minnies from me personally by actually showing up and helping. Thanks. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that I didn't clearly state my opinion of the situation. Having re-read my post, it was a bit unclear. CVA can best help by imparting it's vast knowledge on fighting all types of Minnie ships and gang configs to Amarr Militia FC's. Which for right now maybe the best course of action, until something may be thought of in the future.
Steve Celeste	Posted - 2008.06.27 10:37:00 - [114] Originally by: Solusar IF FW changes to acutally mean something you will probably see more people getting involved, as it stands its just a very fast way to lose sec status (lost 3 points in one night) while although its fun it has no real impact. Hopefully this will change in the future. You do realize that you are supposed to kill the wartargets, right?
Karina Harington A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.06.27 10:44:00 - [115] Dear God, please save this thread, it's full of fail right now. Seriously, stop crying to CVA to save your (our, heh) asses. Man up, get organised, get smart and use the situation as an opportunity to learn how to fight outnumbered. Rome wasn't built in a day, you know.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 11:00:00 - [116] Edited by: Angelonico on 27/06/2008 11:07:02 Originally by: Karina Harington Seriously, stop crying to CVA to save your (our, heh) asses. Man up, get organised, get smart and use the situation as an opportunity to learn how to fight outnumbered. Sound advice, I must say. And if this had soley been a CVA callout you might be right. It isn't. This is general clamor and your tone isn't needed. If it had come from Blunter (still one of the best scout/fc's any eve pilot could ask for) or Joe Public, people who actually x up and fight for their cause (in "A Few Good Men"), I might take it seriously. You however, I don't know. You must play in EURO prime. Pleasure to make your acquaintance. Your 17 kills and zero losses posted over two weeks is a true testament to your prowess, no? Help me get allies, help me kill, help me organize - or get the **** out of my way.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.06.27 11:00:00 - [117] ive been in amarr low sec the last week getting standings to join amarr militia and i think in that week ive seen 2 amarr militia players and about 100 blobs of 40 man minmatar gangs where are all the amarr militia pilots fighting or are they all docked?
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.27 11:00:00 - [118] Originally by: Karina Harington Rome wasn't built in a day, you know. Possibly the most astute thing that's been said on this thread. Many long running wars see reversals of fortune, sometimes many of them. CCP won't be finishing FW next weekend. They won't be ending it at Christmas. They might not even end it before the server shuts down for the last time. Sure, the Amarr side has lost occupancy in a few systems, but there will be victories in the future. Nobody should be surprised if at some point in the future there's a thread called "So yeah, Minmatar are getting their arses kicked" Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 11:05:00 - [119] Originally by: Rodj Blake Truthiness I agree completely - however at the moment we are getting our faces raped, and I'd like others to be aware - and help. There is far too much hesitation from the different corps in miltia, my own included, to cooperate as we are seeing the mimtar do. I'm not much for subtlety. I thought the best idea was to bang some pots and pans around and wake some folks up. I'm happy with the results, so far anyway. I'll see you in space. Cheers
Karina Harington A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.06.27 11:35:00 - [120] Originally by: Angelonico Sound advice, I must say. And if this had soley been a CVA callout you might be right. It isn't. This is general clamor and your tone isn't needed. If it had come from Blunter (still one of the best scout/fc's any eve pilot could ask for) or Joe Public, people who actually x up and fight for their cause (in "A Few Good Men"), I might take it seriously. Oh no, I'm so worried you're not taking me super serial. Quote: You however, I don't know. You must play in EURO prime. Pleasure to make your acquaintance. Your 17 kills and zero losses posted over two weeks is a true testament to your prowess, no? You are aware that I havent actually posted kills and losses as it wasn't a requirement in my previous corp, right? Quote: Help me get allies, help me kill, help me organize - or get the **** out of my way. I'm trying to help you not look a fool, but I seem to be too late.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 11:49:00 - [121] Originally by: Karina Harington ... Calm down.
Karina Harington A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.06.27 11:57:00 - [122] Originally by: Angelonico Calm down. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I'm not calm. Perhaps it's because I don't measure my e-peen by the Amarr Empire's killboard.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 12:05:00 - [123] Originally by: Karina Harington Originally by: Angelonico Calm down. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I'm not calm. Perhaps it's because I don't measure my e-peen by the Amarr Empire's killboard. You're still coming in a bit too hot.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 12:10:00 - [124] Enough clamor for at least a little while. My intention was to get people aware of just how bad off amarr at the moment and to pay respect to my enemies for generally being chill brosefs. Even mirrorgod these days . If I was too glib, too course, and a bit uppity my bad - I'm a bit of an *******. Thanks again to all the loyal amarrians, this FW thing turned out to be a good deal of fun... even if my side is on the ropes. Cheers
Karina Harington A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.06.27 12:13:00 - [125] Originally by: Angelonico You're still coming in a bit too hot. So hot you have asked for a lock, it seems. It saddens me that you can't take a little criticism.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 12:15:00 - [126] Edited by: Angelonico on 27/06/2008 12:15:43 Originally by: Karina Harington So hot you have asked for a lock, it seems. It saddens me that you can't take a little criticism. No, it's just 5:13 AM here, and I've accomplished what I've wanted. But if you want to feel special, sure why not?
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.06.27 12:26:00 - [127] Originally by: Angelonico No, it's just 5:13 AM here, and I've accomplished what I've wanted. Hey there Angelonico, if you're still awake why not register on the Amarr Militia forums, could help you know. San Matari Official forums
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.06.27 13:00:00 - [128] Hmmm, I'm guessing the dozen or so "stop being a coward and come and help the amarrian militia" eve-mails I got yesterday had something to do with you Angelonico Let me just say you REALLY don't want Star Fraction ships in Amarrian Militia gangs ... CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
Corewin Shadow Contingency	Posted - 2008.06.27 13:06:00 - [129] Originally by: Jade Constantine Hmmm, I'm guessing the dozen or so "stop being a coward and come and help the amarrian militia" eve-mails I got yesterday had something to do with you Angelonico Let me just say you REALLY don't want Star Fraction ships in Amarrian Militia gangs ... So I assume you would rather sit in Tama and camp the Nourv gate? Tama, becoming Jita 2.0, one faction blah blah blah day at a time. Bring all your warez now.
Hudsonn A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.06.27 13:09:00 - [130] Originally by: Angelonico Edited by: Angelonico on 27/06/2008 11:07:13 Originally by: Karina Harington Seriously, stop crying to CVA to save your (our, heh) asses. Man up, get organised, get smart and use the situation as an opportunity to learn how to fight outnumbered. Sound advice, I must say. And if this had soley been a CVA callout you might be right. It isn't. This is general clamor and your tone isn't needed. If it had come from Blunter (still one of the best scout/fc's any eve pilot could ask for) or Joe Public, people who actually x up and fight for their cause (in "A Few Good Men"), I might take it seriously. You however, I don't know. You must play in EURO prime. Pleasure to make your acquaintance. Your 17 kills and zero losses posted over two weeks is a true testament to your prowess, no? Help me get allies, help me kill, help me organize - or get the **** out of my way. BTW, Angel, most of AFEW are euro timezone. You probably never seen me, and i can't say i've flown with you yet either. All good though! Lets keep on killing. The last mixed fleet i was on, was spied on something awful... So you wouldn't see many "x"'s from me in militia chat. Hud ___________________________ Minmatar Rebel
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.06.27 13:17:00 - [131] Originally by: Jade Constantine Let me just say you REALLY don't want Star Fraction ships in Amarrian Militia gangs ... San Matari Official forums
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.27 14:35:00 - [132] Originally by: Angelonico You don't find it embarrassing that amarr are reduced to running t1 slosh ops into mimmtar's faces? Not really. Gotta start somewhere. It was kind of the same story years ago when CVA began its push into Providence. m0o was still around (though on the decline) and many other then-famous pirate organizations. lolrp-ers vs seasoned pvp-ers. It was brutal and inefficient. But we had a mission we wanted to accomplish and here we are. We certainly didn't publicly vilify our allies at the time, blaming them for the difficulty of the campaign. Originally by: Angelonico Honestly m8's, I'm not the role players - you are. Eve is a sandbox game. Being an Amarr roleplayer does not bind one to faction warfare. There are certainly ways in which we can help, but this thread ain't the way to ask.
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment	Posted - 2008.06.27 17:04:00 - [133] I personally had an abaddon in one of those t1 slosh gangs, fitted with t1 garbage ofc. I lose less when I lose a bs, then when I lose a cruiser. how sad is that. in 0.0 numbers aren't everything, because there is a larger skill gap imo (look at BoB vs Coalition) In FW however, the numbers appear to matter a bit more depending on who it is.
Mr Ignitious Gallente Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 19:33:00 - [134] Edited by: Mr Ignitious on 27/06/2008 19:35:01 Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII ive been in amarr low sec the last week getting standings to join amarr militia and i think in that week ive seen 2 amarr militia players and about 100 blobs of 40 man minmatar gangs where are all the amarr militia pilots fighting or are they all docked? yah, basically. Starting from some odd hour after i got off work for about 8 hours on, angel leads suicide cruiser ops. Its a slow burn through isk, and the only thing we can do because there are always 200 ppl on in militia chat, but about 30 willing to x up for a fleet. Our record was 50, and our average is getting to be 25. This is no secret by now, seeing as we've done it atleast 30 times by now i'm directing this at the emo's in militia chat flaming angel for being worthless (lol) and hoping CVA can come down and beat up ushra'khan and maybe just dec outbreak. Not to difficult for CVA, and lolemo's in milita Originally by: Jade Constantine Hmmm, I'm guessing the dozen or so "stop being a coward and come and help the amarrian militia" eve-mails I got yesterday had something to do with you Angelonico Let me just say you REALLY don't want Star Fraction ships in Amarrian Militia gangs ... angel was ****ed when someone linked the wrong person i was embarrassed when i sent one as ordered myself
Redback911 Malevolent Intentions	Posted - 2008.06.27 19:38:00 - [135] The mimmi blobs are incredibly stupid. If you put out a proper opposition, and risk some isk, they die quick and easy.
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment	Posted - 2008.06.27 19:56:00 - [136] they also run from a single t1 fitted bs, unless theres atleast 20 of them nearby. Its like how 5 battlecruisers refused to shoot my geddon yesterday... they didnt even lock me. I couldnt believe it. Too bad I had to be somewhere lol.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 20:38:00 - [137] Originally by: Redback911 The mimmi blobs are incredibly stupid. If you put out a proper opposition, and risk some isk, they die quick and easy. No, they're actually not. Outbreak has been doing extremely well and the former insurg memembers that joined are also supporting as much as they can. Our opponents far outclass and outnumber us at this point. I wake up and this thread still isn't locked? Sheesh. Also lol at people telling a beta player eve is a sandbox. No ****.
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.06.27 20:56:00 - [138] Originally by: Grath Telkin Originally by: Dohl Khrensen I have to say props for bringing it to Angelonico and the Amarrian cruiser gangs the last few days. I catch myself being surprised, and then not so much, whenever the call comes in over militia, 'they're back.' '25 WTs in Amamake.' I hope you all keep it up. It has been a blast so far and when you want good fights you know where we'll be. Dohl PS It brought a smile to my face yesterday when Wraith warped in ahead of the Amarrian fleet last night. No fear, man. That's the only way to lead. The funny part is alot of the problem is coming from within the Amarr Militia. Our Militia channel regularly goes above 300, and during US tz it hovers near 200, but 3/4 of the pilots in it believe that fighting you is counter productive, and we should all be plexing our brains out. That schism means you guys see the same 30 people every time, with very little new blood ever joining in the fray. If for nothing else, we could use the help of larger groups like CVA just to help organize the drooling masses, and get us all flowing in the same direction. Plexers being supported by the military (much like the minnie guys do) would be awesome, and effective, but tbh, the plexers seem to want very little to do with the PVP guys in general. At one point, I attempted to raise a fleet and militia chat became a giant flame fest about "why waste your time", and "don't go with Grath, plex instead, save your ships". The militia itself was actually working against me trying to form a fleet. It was amazing. I've gotten lots of compliments over time about my skills as an FC, and I'm loathe to even form a fleet anymore simply because of the bickering that it causes in Militia chat, so i go largely unknown for any leadership role, and am really reluctant to even attempt to assume one, with all the negativity that permeates the alliance. Time and new blood will tell, perhaps the minnies will get sick of lopsided no fun battles and some will swap sides to have more fun (after all, were pretty much fighting for fun), or maybe CVA will drop a few war decs and send a detachment to the area for support, who knows. I've been in grath's fleets before and anyone who would pass that up to go plexing must have been dropped when they were little. The man knows his stuff and he knows how to command. Granted, it's a little disconcerting when he apologises for bringing any ships back intact... Ah screw it. I'm joining up ASAP. Grath, you got room for a falcon pilot? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Horizon Taker Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.27 21:15:00 - [139] Originally by: Jade Constantine Hmmm, I'm guessing the dozen or so "stop being a coward and come and help the amarrian militia" eve-mails I got yesterday had something to do with you Angelonico Let me just say you REALLY don't want Star Fraction ships in Amarrian Militia gangs ... Oh god, I apologize so hard for that. Angel said look up CVA, but he was using your name (I think he was a little baked) so I just autolinked your name and then boom. I should of done a little more looking, but thank you for being cool with it :)
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.27 23:47:00 - [140] While it is disturbing to look at systems fall I find the biggest disappointment here is the blame some are heaping on the CVA. I'm not a member of CVA but PIE was one of the co-founders of the alliance before it moved to Providence. Along with our friends CVA, Vigilia Valeria, Aegis Militia and other Amarrian RP corporations over the years we've built a strong foundation to fight the Minmatar horde. Over the years the battle has shifted back and forth with some months the Minnies getting the upper hand and others the Amarrians. What stayed pretty constant though was that the war was basically an RP war, disregarded by many, despised by some as "planned" and ignored by most. Now with faction warfare things have changed and players who never participated in the traditional "RP" as we know it are suddenly the vast majority in every militia. I can count on a couple hands the established RP corps of old and honestly now I'd say including PIE, UK, VV and all the others in the factions we're probably 5% to 10% of the total milita numbers. In other words we're a clear minority. Thats why while it's disturbing to see systems lost I'm not shattered by it and I know the game will continue on. The war as we've fought it all these years (over five now) is still going on behind the scenes. PIE is at war with UK, UK is at war with others, CVA is still working to secure a safe homeland for Amarrian and other citizens in Providence. Nothing has really changed except CCP putting in a new feature to bring more people to the RP "sandbox". Everyone is an RPer in Eve and always has been but until FW we haven't seen the large numbers of people fighting "for" one of the prime fiction empires. Lets face it before FW how many corps out there we're actually "supporters" of an empire to the point it defined their entire existence? Compare that to now. From a traditional RP standpoint it's exciting to see people who used to dismiss us in local as "lame RPers" now join a faction and fight for something. But that excitement is tempered by the fact its understood that its a different war now. So asking CVA if they're embarrased or ashamed at systems being lost is kind of a moot point. They're fighting the war they've always fought. They'll still be fighting it long after FW is gone and all these other people have left and gone back to their 0.0 pirating and whatnot. So I know from a personal standpoint I agree with Garreck. The mission for all the old-time Amarrian RP corps hasn't really changed even with FW. What has changed is 5,000 people suddenly jumping into the fight we'd never seen before. What those 5,000 people do could affect one of the empires in some way if CCP deems a side "wins" or "loses" and as an RPer we have to live with that. But in a way it's alot like anything CCP does anyway. Anything could happen, it's often out of our realistic control, so you live with it and go on. In a year or two or five or ten (I hope) Eve will still be here, I'll still be Archbishop and a loyal Amarrian RPer and CVA will still be CVA. Regardless of what CCP does as a result of FW "wins" and "losses" that won't change because in the end we know it's their game anyway. So like the song says "don't worry... be happy". Enjoy the new FW features, try to win a few for the empire. But if you don't you shouldn't despair because looking around at all the pirates and others jumping on bandwagons they've never even seen before you should realize it's really "not" the old fight anymore it's kind of like 0.0 warfare. Different rules, different playstyles, different results. In a way its very comforting to me. I know my RP will still be here regardless of what happens in FW or whatever CCP does. In the end the mission never changed and will always remain the same. I do hope alot of you new people hang around after FW is done too. I know I wouldn't have it any other way. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.28 01:13:00 - [141] Originally by: Horizon Taker (I think he was a little baked) Confirmin dis. Also how is this thread still open?
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.06.28 01:30:00 - [142] Originally by: Horizon Taker Oh god, I apologize so hard for that. Angel said look up CVA, but he was using your name (I think he was a little baked) so I just autolinked your name and then boom. I should of done a little more looking, but thank you for being cool with it :) Ah no problem, was quite funny that one of the more notorious enemies of the Amarrian state was being solicited to come to the aid of the Amarrian militia CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
Mr Ignitious Gallente Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.28 02:39:00 - [143] MAAAAALLCAAAANNNIIISSS!!!!! ::puts on wizards hat and robe:: rp time!! FOR THE EMPEROARRR!!
MirrorGod Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.06.28 05:32:00 - [144] Originally by: Angelonico Originally by: Redback911 The mimmi blobs are incredibly stupid. If you put out a proper opposition, and risk some isk, they die quick and easy. No, they're actually not. Outbreak has been doing extremely well and the former insurg memembers that joined are also supporting as much as they can. Our opponents far outclass and outnumber us at this point. I wake up and this thread still isn't locked? Sheesh. Also lol at people telling a beta player eve is a sandbox. No ****. He's right. I'll lament, I've seen what some call "pubbies" coming in and making some noob mistakes, but end of the day, that's every militia. But I can very certainly attest that our militia has a good core group of pilots and leaders that can and do fly the best. Recruitment: [ANTI]
Hudsonn A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.06.28 23:18:00 - [145] CVA, get ready..... ___________________________ Minmatar Rebel
Kasity General Mayhem Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.29 10:39:00 - [146] We all know if CVA leave there homes open for long, any allaince including oter role player would knock it off. They have 2 much at stake in 0.0 already.
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.06.29 11:35:00 - [147] Amarr need help from you. Thread over. If you ever see this guy asking for x's in milita chat, don't join his gang. A little tip, forum reader, from me to you.
M0rning5tar Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.06.29 11:42:00 - [148] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Amarr need help from you. Thread over. If you ever see this guy asking for x's in milita chat, don't join his gang. A little tip, forum reader, from me to you. Were you the one he banned from ts for being a spy? You do realize half the gang pointed out you were one - and asked him to do it. I've been having fun flying with him for over 3 years now, you're named after a character on the sopranos and a spy in FW. I think you're the lowest rung on the ladder of eve. Blame the people that ratted you out, not him.
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.06.29 11:47:00 - [149] Originally by: M0rning5tar Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Amarr need help from you. Thread over. If you ever see this guy asking for x's in milita chat, don't join his gang. A little tip, forum reader, from me to you. Were you the one he banned from ts for being a spy? You do realize half the gang pointed out you were one - and asked him to do it. I've been having fun flying with him for over 3 years now, you're named after a character on the sopranos and a spy in FW. I think you're the lowest rung on the ladder of eve. Blame the people that ratted you out, not him. Wow, you got me there, bang to rights.
My'kel An'jelo Amarr Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.06.29 23:51:00 - [150] ANGRYLONICO.
Onionico Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.06.29 23:55:00 - [151] It's bitterlonico, get it right. Don't be mad I banned your friend, he was useless and you know it. Also, how in christ's name is this thread still open?
My'kel An'jelo Amarr Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.06.29 23:58:00 - [152] Edited by: My''kel An''jelo on 29/06/2008 23:58:46 Originally by: Onionico It's bitterlonico, get it right. Don't be mad I banned your friend, he was useless and you know it. Also, how in christ's name is this thread still open? that was actually incredible, it's like you have an RSS of this thread or something. 4 mins response time? damn. Anyways, I don't really give a ****... lol. It's just that you get a bit overexcited sometimes.
Onionico Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.06.30 00:01:00 - [153] Edited by: Onionico on 30/06/2008 00:01:44 You convoed me and told me you had posted in the thread, then are shocked I responded? Are you high again Myk?
Nexus Kinnon Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.06.30 00:02:00 - [154] Edited by: Nexus Kinnon on 30/06/2008 00:02:52 Originally by: Onionico You convoed me and told me you had poseted in the thread, then are shocked I responded? Are you high again Myk? that was local dude and I wasn't talking about that post I posted something like "T1 frigate crew representing" earlier in the thread. Anyways, you're a decent enough FC and my**got CEO has pulled out of FW so good luck and all that **. edit; whoopsies, wrong character. (this is my'kel's main)
Onionico Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.06.30 00:05:00 - [155] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Edited by: Nexus Kinnon on 30/06/2008 00:02:52 Originally by: Onionico You convoed me and told me you had poseted in the thread, then are shocked I responded? Are you high again Myk? that was local dude and I wasn't talking about that post I posted something like "T1 frigate crew representing" earlier in the thread. Anyways, you're a decent enough FC and my**got CEO has pulled out of FW so good luck and all that **. edit; whoopsies, wrong character. (this is my'kel's main) You too brosef. Good luck in whatever you do. Give'm hell.

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