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DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.05.18 09:47:00 - [31] Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/05/2004 10:08:51 Just to reiterate for anyone confused (cough prophecy cough) CDI are KOS to RKK for attempting to hire pirates to kill everyone in Tribute including all of our friends. Paladins are KOS to RKK (always have been, always will be) for being pirates. We have never worked with them. The rest of the innocent PA corps are not KOS. Phonix is hilarious on TS, he doesn't take any * from anyone and isn't afraid to stand up to bullies. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier** Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Lord Zap	Posted - 2004.05.18 09:58:00 - [32] Lmao, haha.
Alexandra Belani	Posted - 2004.05.18 10:08:00 - [33] Originally by: Propehcy And Really Jade, let's just call everyone from .4 and down pirates. Are you talking about security status or location in space? Either way Im ****ed. Quote:** Heh heh heh. Alexi always seems to put me in a good mood. raises an eyebrow We'll talk about this post later Like this sig? Check out my sig shoppe.. Zen Jakkaru - "Alexandra Belani (Most sexy terr
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:03:00 - [34] ****take, Cao Cao told us about it in chat, and we got him on TS about 1 minute after Conmen offered his proposal. We all had a great laugh about it. Right when Conmen asked him, he immediately told us. This was all within minutes of you CDI asshats ganking Remo. Anyhow, I trust him anyhow, and this is after his corp popped two of our bs's the day before. =) Right when the ganking happened, he was in system, and thought that was the most incredibly lame thing ever and offered us assistance. Stick that in your carebear pipe and smoke it. Still a little more than surprised you haven't kicked CDI out of PA, they seem to be one hell of liability to PA's health and reputation. ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:19:00 - [35] DBP. Everyone in 0.0 space are Pirates. Look at the Guristas. Pirates! Angel Cartel. Pirates! CA. Alledgidley Pirates! Now you're a pirate to! We live with it. Suck it up DBP. Pirate to Pirate, (me to you). We're pirates Sister, just a matter of who the carbears hate more. (That's usually us though ) Quote: Still a little more than surprised you haven't kicked CDI out of PA, they seem to be one hell of liability to PA's health and reputation. Being at war with CA is also unhealthy! Quote: raises an eyebrow We'll talk about this post later Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Darken Two	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:21:00 - [36] Wow looks like judgement day for the PA. Everyone, their grandmother and their greatgrandfather's dog seem to be out to villify the PA. I dont see why Revol are complaining since they are the one's whose members were shooting down PA ships in venal and elsewhere. So I dont think they have a leg to stand on if we do the same and say "oops our bad", because thats exactly what they did. And anyways aren't revol supposed to be overthrowing FA or something. As for RKK they being the ones who claimed they would kill PA if they were offered money and then claiming it was a joke, maybe conmen meant it as a joke as well. If you can joke so can we. And as for DB Preachers pompous statements about just CDI being on their kos list and the rest of us carebears in PA can keep our miserable lives, I say dont pretend you are more than what you are. What do you think if RKK put us all on their KOS list we would all run off to mommy or something. I am not even going to address the CA guys who posted here because I sense a lot of anger and frustration in their words, let them cool down first. And finally for all you friendly people offering us advice on what to do with CDI, mind your own friggin business. We take care of our own whether it be good or bad. And why dont all you hypocrites get the plank out of your eye before you remove the speck from ours. Good day to all, and remember just because the PA does not have as many forum warriors as the rest of you does not mean we are weak. Forum warriors do not an alliance make. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:32:00 - [37] Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/05/2004 15:45:58 Originally by: Darken Two As for RKK they being the ones who claimed they would kill PA if they were offered money and then claiming it was a joke, maybe conmen meant it as a joke as well. Actions speak louder than words. I thought artegg knew we were messing around as we are friends from the NVA time. However, the truth of the matter remains that people on all sides attempted to hire RKK to attack the PA and each and every offer was turned down. CDI attempted to hire PIRATES to kill EVERYONE (not just RKK) in Tribute. Originally by: Darken Two DB Preachers pompous statements about just CDI being on their kos list and the rest of us carebears in PA can keep our miserable lives, I say dont pretend you are more than what you are. What do you think if RKK put us all on their KOS list we would all run off to mommy or something. I think you misunderstand, that wasn't a pompous statement. It was a statement to show that we differentiate between the GOOD corps in the alliance (e.g. NSN, R-K, OI) and the blatantly evil corps in the alliance. At no point did I say "the rest of us carebears in PA can keep our miserable lives" because that simply isn't what I think. There appears to be a constant mix of information handed out from the PA. On one hand, the eve universe is told that individual corps in the PA can deal with thier own problems, however, it appears that isn't the case all the time. The duality of this information is extremely confusing for the rest of the eve universe. Perhaps you should contact your superiors to see what is occuring in the PA at the minute because I fear you are missing vital information. You can contact me in-game also when I am around, I would be glad to have a chat with confused individuals about the actions of CDI. Finally, there was a lot of hatred aimed at RKK for it's forum whoring after the original NAST debacle. We have curbed that forum whoring. However, I won't stand aside and simply shut up when RKK's name is being dragged through the mud. If people don't wish us to forum *** then quite simply don't challenge us in the forums. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier** Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:37:00 - [38] Hope you didn't mean me as the Angry CA guy, i'm CA, and a guy. But on this thread, i'm laughing my ass off Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:40:00 - [39] Originally by: Propehcy DBP. Everyone in 0.0 space are Pirates. Look at the Guristas. Pirates! Angel Cartel. Pirates! CA. Alledgidley Pirates! Now you're a pirate to! We live with it. Suck it up DBP. Pirate to Pirate, (me to you). We're pirates Sister, just a matter of who the carbears hate more. (That's usually us though ) You are a pirate, you old donkey lover. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:49:00 - [40] So are you! Swine! Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Notferr	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:55:00 - [41] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Propehcy DBP. Everyone in 0.0 space are Pirates. Look at the Guristas. Pirates! Angel Cartel. Pirates! CA. Alledgidley Pirates! Now you're a pirate to! We live with it. Suck it up DBP. Pirate to Pirate, (me to you). We're pirates Sister, just a matter of who the carbears hate more. (That's usually us though ) You are a pirate, you old donkey lover. dbp ROTF, that's rich... DBP, you killing me here! Propehcy, warm up your best, man! Let's see it! D-A-M-N, I love this game! - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Ribbo	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:55:00 - [42] Hello Jade, not nit-picking, but just a few questions on your post that i think might need to be cleared up, as i believe you might know most of this weekends events have been/are being worked out between PA, RKK and FU diplomats. Damage limitation and all that. Originally by: Jade Constantine RKK had been subject to a KOS from the PA order and received solid evidence that PA corporations were hiring pirate corps to attack them. They considered this an act of war (strangely) and were in "your" territory/"claimed space" to hold you to account for the actions of a member corporation. Im aware of CDI hiring PLD's etc (and when i found out boy was i unhappy about it) but i know of no others, could you clarify this please as you say you have solid evidence. Originally by: Jade Constantine Let me put this into perspective for you. Phoenix Alliance are "pirates" yourself, yes, right now. You know why? Because one of your member corps has been taxing neutral corporations in the Tribute free space Zone the healthy sum of 15m isk per day. This in total violation of the NAST treaty declared by Halseth Durn and full opposition to the purpose of that freespace declaration. And yes there is a chatlog, and yes I believe it also. So by association, you are a pirate **take, you belong to a pirate alliance. Your** member corps are making money from Piracy. If you've got chatlogs if not so done already pleaes could you make them available to Halseth Durth, PA are a non-pirate alliance if you've got complaints and evidence contradicting please make them formal and present any evidence to the top bods so it can be investigated and acted upon because as you said, if Jericho had a bad egg in the packet it would be weeded out pretty fast. (how are swflb nowerdays :D ) Regards Ribbo
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:58:00 - [43] Quote: I dont see why Revol are complaining since they are the one's whose members were shooting down PA ships in venal and elsewhere. So I dont think they have a leg to stand on if we do the same and say "oops our bad", because thats exactly what they did. Explain, I'm curious. You mean the thing I worked diligently on for 7 hours with various reps from PA while you guys revoked and re-added us to KOS twice daily? Let me remind you that this was going on when Revol was doing joint patrols with PA against pirates, let me also remind you that we lost 2 battleships to the paladins in the defense of the station the day before this all happened. Those talks drove me bananas towards the end and our patience was all but exhausted on the matter. We were going to pay some compensation to you guys, but after all of your threats and actions we decided we were through with talking, and the CDI gang gank seconds later was the result, then moments later they tried to hire PLD who killed two of our battleships the day before to kill us. The funny part about this is I told Remo to get out of the gang and get to a safe spot because I was going to tell them the discussion was over, but he refused to do it because he didnt want to lose trust while I said it because I my guts told me CDI was going to pull lameness like this before it happened. PLD thought that was lame, and told us about the merc offer from Conmen immediately and offered assistance. So you see we had alot to complain about, and we did it with our guns after that. Now during these talks when we are not kos half of PA shoots at us, while the other half doesnt. You guys can't even tell your own corps what the hell is going on which indirectly which led up to this whole mess. I'm not going to re-explain the whole matter considering its posted elsewhere, go read it. As far as "oops, our bad", CDI hasn't approached any one of us to apologize or offer compensation. It's really too bad PA had to pay our compensation in BS's for that lame act by a rogue member of their alliance which caused to the whole thing in the first place. ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
Ribbo	Posted - 2004.05.18 15:58:00 - [44] Edited by: Ribbo on 18/05/2004 16:00:00 double post.. carry on, nothing to see :D
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.05.18 16:03:00 - [45] Sounds like Politics are driving you bannanas Aerick, Ever considerd CA's Communist type rule? Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.05.18 16:04:00 - [46] Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/05/2004 16:06:14 We have chatlogs of both CDI's attempts to hire mercenaries and CDI's attempts to get a corp to pay them 15m isk per day to mine in tribute and CDI making them KOS for not paying up. We have FU members testimonies about TS conversations of PA members attempting to lie to the FU about RKK involvement in so-called "daily runs into tribute killing PA shipping" and "killing PA in EC". This apparently occured while we were actually stationed down in curse. We also have recordings of TS conversations where R-K promise RKK they can curb CDI and state they will quit the PA if they cannot. Less than one hour later, we had CDI attacking our forces again. We have yet to get a response to this. These have been made available to the PA, if any individual member of PA wishes to access any of this information then please contact our CEO Galavet, our PR Director Lion El'Johnson or myself. thx dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Ribbo	Posted - 2004.05.18 16:07:00 - [47] cheers preacher, appretiate the straight factual answer, we can clarify tho that it's just CDI that keeps reappearing and no other PA corp.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.05.18 16:12:00 - [48] Originally by: Ribbo cheers preacher, appretiate the straight factual answer, we can clarify tho that it's just CDI that keeps reappearing and no other PA corp. That is correct. We have received the full support of most of the other PA corps on this issue. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
The Reclaimer	Posted - 2004.05.18 16:12:00 - [49] Seems that CDI has take a page out of Everlasting Vewndetta's old playbook. How long until they hire ppl to start killing allies?
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.05.18 16:32:00 - [50] I smell Civil war. Can I name the next alliance? . Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.05.18 17:00:00 - [51] only if i can name your babies!!
Ribbo	Posted - 2004.05.18 18:10:00 - [52] Originally by: Jadrut only if i can name your babies!! "ugly" "illigitimate" "amarrian"
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.18 18:12:00 - [53] Ribbo, Quote: Not nit-picking, but just a few questions on your post that i think might need to be cleared up, as i believe you might know most of this weekends events have been/are being worked out between PA, RKK and FU diplomats. Damage limitation and all that. I spent a fair bit of time in Teamspeak myself on these issues at the weekend, it seemed a lot of people were very keen to resolve issues and avoid outright conflict, but a significant member of the PA seemed to take the opposite tact. Quote: Im aware of CDI hiring PLD's etc (and when i found out boy was i unhappy about it) but i know of no others, could you clarify this please as you say you have solid evidence. CDI is the one we had the solid proof of wrongdoings for. (Targetting Jericho and others for pirate attack etc). While I do have personal doubts about many of the corporations that have been seen in gangs with CDI recently, I don't believe there is any evidence of these names hiring their own pirate thugs independently. Quote: If you've got chatlogs if not so done already pleaes could you make them available to Halseth Durth, PA are a non-pirate alliance if you've got complaints and evidence contradicting please make them formal and present any evidence to the top bods so it can be investigated and acted upon because as you said, if Jericho had a bad egg in the packet it would be weeded out pretty fast. I believe they have been made available. I suspect Halseth would take a personal interest in what is a direct and appalling corruption of the core principles of his NAST treaty. And I hope you will agree that a PA corp "tolling" neutrals in a freespace zone 15m per day ... simply should not be a PA corp. Quote: (how are swflb nowerdays :D ) Nothing to do with us. Sharks with Laser Beams have their own leader and their own objectives and policies that we are not privy too in any way shape or means. (In fact I would make an educated guess that PA spy-alts in Sharks know more than we do about what goes on there) ;) Love and peace JF Public Forum
crice	Posted - 2004.05.18 18:16:00 - [54] Originally by: Jade Constantine Ribbo, Quote: Not nit-picking, but just a few questions on your post that i think might need to be cleared up, as i believe you might know most of this weekends events have been/are being worked out between PA, RKK and FU diplomats. Damage limitation and all that. I spent a fair bit of time in Teamspeak myself on these issues at the weekend, it seemed a lot of people were very keen to resolve issues and avoid outright conflict, but a significant member of the PA seemed to take the opposite tact. Quote: Im aware of CDI hiring PLD's etc (and when i found out boy was i unhappy about it) but i know of no others, could you clarify this please as you say you have solid evidence. CDI is the one we had the solid proof of wrongdoings for. (Targetting Jericho and others for pirate attack etc). While I do have personal doubts about many of the corporations that have been seen in gangs with CDI recently, I don't believe there is any evidence of these names hiring their own pirate thugs independently. Quote: If you've got chatlogs if not so done already pleaes could you make them available to Halseth Durth, PA are a non-pirate alliance if you've got complaints and evidence contradicting please make them formal and present any evidence to the top bods so it can be investigated and acted upon because as you said, if Jericho had a bad egg in the packet it would be weeded out pretty fast. I believe they have been made available. I suspect Halseth would take a personal interest in what is a direct and appalling corruption of the core principles of his NAST treaty. And I hope you will agree that a PA corp "tolling" neutrals in a freespace zone 15m per day ... simply should not be a PA corp. Quote: (how are swflb nowerdays :D ) Nothing to do with us. Sharks with Laser Beams have their own leader and their own objectives and policies that we are not privy too in any way shape or means. (In fact I would make an educated guess that PA spy-alts in Sharks know more than we do about what goes on there) ;) Love and peace Thank you PA spokesperson.
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.05.18 18:29:00 - [55] LOL. I thought all of FRICK were your alts Jade? Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.05.18 18:33:00 - [56] and m0o are yours eh propehcy?
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.05.18 18:34:00 - [57] Nope. But Some of CELEST are . Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.05.18 18:36:00 - [58] Actually almost everyone posting in this thread is my alt. I'm surprised I have the time to keep this up. =) ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.18 18:37:00 - [59] [Crice] Quote: Thank you PA spokesperson. Ummm, would you like me to mail you a link to an online "clue" shop Crice? JF Public Forum
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2004.05.18 18:58:00 - [60] Originally by: Jade Constantine [Crice] Quote: Thank you PA spokesperson. Ummm, would you like me to mail you a link to an online "clue" shop Crice? Actually jade.. I think u should :¦ ________________________________________

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