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PLD Press
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Posted - 2004.05.17 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: PLD Press on 17/05/2004 18:42:02
Many thanks to Sterbehilfe of the Silent Guard for hosting this little gem of a teamspeak recording on his Untouchables clan site and making it available to all of you .
Heard here is a small (but exciting) portion of the FU / PA summit late Saturday night / early Sunday morning:
At approximately 06:30 early Sunday morning, the Phoenix Alliance (PA) declared certain corporations, including Legion of the Damned (LOD) (a Fade Union corporation), as Kill-On-Sight.
A force of Cyberdyne Industries (CDI) and Generals of Destruction (GODS) battleships opened fire on Fade Union forces, destroying a tempest and sending other heavily outnumbered forces into retreat before the PA fleet.
Emergency talks were held, and DREDD of the Phoenix Alliance was invited to the LOD teamspeak server in an attempt to sort things out. At one point, SH1TTAKE, a self-admitted RONA carebear, entered the discussion and the following exchange occurred: LINKAGE.
Voices heard are PHONIX, TAZ911 from LOD, Sh!ttake from RONA CORP and DREDD from BTLS.
LOD = Legion of the Damned BTLS = Battlestars
CLICK HERE - TOP NEWS STORY ON THE SITE
EDIT: fixed linkage.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.05.17 16:55:00 -
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Old news... Dealt with... You'll have to do better to break us up.
But good effort, nonetheless!
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.05.17 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Ra on 17/05/2004 17:03:49 Hehe
I want phonix's babys 
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.05.17 17:00:00 -
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Sun Ra,
The new sig rocks!
- N -
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Xavier Perez
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Posted - 2004.05.17 17:00:00 -
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We need more forum smacktalk. I get bored sitting here at work all day :(
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.05.17 17:05:00 -
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LOL
"We brake for nobody"
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Clatu Verata
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Posted - 2004.05.17 17:09:00 -
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MSteuer
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Posted - 2004.05.17 17:23:00 -
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If you haven't listened to the TS recording, you have to, omg I spit pop up on my monitor it was so funny. =)
notable quotes: "I'm a carebear!"
"Dude I dont trust you, all you do is mine all #%^$%$@ day!"
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:04:00 -
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lol...pirates are bad people and can't be trusted!
/sarcasm off
meanwhile, cdi and PA are the ones making payoffs, grabbing 'open' space, etc etc.
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |

Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 17/05/2004 18:21:54 LOL, this is even funnier when you know these guys. 
Seriously, its a resolved issue and Sh!ttake is perma-banned from diplomacy, currently washing all of our ships, and will be performing the songs of our choice on TS tonight.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Notferr Old news... Dealt with... You'll have to do better to break us up.
But good effort, nonetheless!
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!
Hahaha, bro, it isn't about the news - it's the teamspeak recording! Check it out, its PRICELESS. LOL just in case you missed the link on the original post, CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD THE MP3 AUDIO CLIP!
Shia
http://www.utsclan.de/DISC2.mp3
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Wishdokkta
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:25:00 -
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Yawn! Apparently some newb wet himself yesterday when his impairor was attacked by a flying giraffe. Nasty stuff aparently. Go cover that story.
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Nuclear Baggins
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:30:00 -
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lmao nice clip
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:54:00 -
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Comedy gold =)
______________________
What Aerick has been up to lately.. |

BiO
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:55:00 -
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 All that hate, and like someone said "Its a game"
BiO. --------------
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.05.17 19:18:00 -
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Im like "Darth, change my title bish"
and hes like "NO i wont im all scottish and stuff, im also very very uncool so i wont because i cant live up to your coolness"
and then im like "DARTH CHANGE MY TITLE BISH!"
and then hes like "NOOOOOOOO IM TOOOOO UNCOOL"
and then i was like "yeah, but thats not the point, just cos you can edit my title and i cant edit yours theres no need to be so uncool as to try an make me look uncool"
so then hes like "i dont understand your smart language im scottish"
then im like "Oh of course"
then hes like "Huh?"
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DREDD
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Posted - 2004.05.17 19:21:00 -
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ROFL, funny ****, too bad this is an edited version & the whole convo wasn't played. What a dead issue, only shows how heated everything was at the time, thank god that's behind us. I can personally say, that due to the intervention of a few good men, all issues are worked out. PA is stronger than ever & NAST will survive. United on a common cause.....end of story. Live long & have fun guys! 
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.05.17 19:28:00 -
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hey dude lol i never realised the word was used quite so often by our american companions. Thought i was listening to Bill and Teds big space adventure.
Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear |

Shittake
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Posted - 2004.05.18 03:54:00 -
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Damn, I sounded like idiot in that clip. There's no question I overreacted a little bit and I am sorry for that. If I had not been booted from the TS server, perhaps I could have actually heard this magical evidence they have.
To put things in context a bit, I had been playing for 12 hours and had a bunch of beers in me at the time. I had spent many hours that evening in convos (one telling Reikoku ever so politely to leave PA space but they seem to think they can go wherever they want) and preparaing for battle in D7 (which was averted by me being a middle man SweatySack, Halseth, and CDI reps). All this convo and TS garbage had worn me out.
Then I was invited into (what I think was) the FU TS server. They seemed to have overwhelming evidence against CDI for hiring Palladins to gank some people. I don't know about you, but whatever evidence Cao Cao claimed to have (I assume chat logs), I will have trouble believing it since he is a pirate and we know how pirates are (in game that is).
My frustration during that long day was with Reikoku for repeatedly invading our space and attacking several different PA alliance corp members. Although, I am a little distressed that FU seems to be so buddy-buddy with Reikoku (who also seem to work with Palladins as of late).
These comments and beliefs are mine and mine alone. Not my corp's, and not my alliance's.
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Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2004.05.18 04:34:00 -
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i suggest you go back to washing ships
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.05.18 05:17:00 -
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****take, I think you may have missed the "how to make an apology" lecture 101 course that was being held for PA execs a few months ago.
Quote: Damn, I sounded like idiot in that clip. There's no question I overreacted a little bit and I am sorry for that. If I had not been booted from the TS server, perhaps I could have actually heard this magical evidence they have.
It's hardly "magically" ... there is a chatlog that clearly shows a member of CDI attempting to hire Paladins of the Red Skull to attack all non PA/ non NAST ships in the Tribute freepace zone. Nobody has seriously doubted the credibility of that chatlog and CDI have not denied it either when pressed. It happened ****take, everyone knows it happened, now deal with the fact that it happened rather than acting dumb and pretending it didn't.
Quote: To put things in context a bit, I had been playing for 12 hours and had a bunch of beers in me at the time. I had spent many hours that evening in convos (one telling Reikoku ever so politely to leave PA space but they seem to think they can go wherever they want)
RKK had been subject to a KOS from the PA order and received solid evidence that PA corporations were hiring pirate corps to attack them. They considered this an act of war (strangely) and were in "your" territory/"claimed space" to hold you to account for the actions of a member corporation.
Quote: ... and preparaing for battle in D7 (which was averted by me being a middle man SweatySack, Halseth, and CDI reps). All this convo and TS garbage had worn me out.
Well I can understand how continually putting your head in the sand and avoiding the obvious evidence that you were a tool in the hands of CDI plotting to bring your alliance to war for their own purposes is quite exhausting.
Quote: Then I was invited into (what I think was) the FU TS server. They seemed to have overwhelming evidence against CDI for hiring Palladins to gank some people. I don't know about you, but whatever evidence Cao Cao claimed to have (I assume chat logs), I will have trouble believing it since he is a pirate and we know how pirates are (in game that is).
Let me put this into perspective for you. Phoenix Alliance are "pirates" yourself, yes, right now. You know why? Because one of your member corps has been taxing neutral corporations in the Tribute free space Zone the healthy sum of 15m isk per day. This in total violation of the NAST treaty declared by Halseth Durn and full opposition to the purpose of that freespace declaration. And yes there is a chatlog, and yes I believe it also. So by association, you are a pirate ****take, you belong to a pirate alliance. Your member corps are making money from Piracy.
Thats fact.
But of course thats not reason enough to make or break a logical argument because the mere fact that one is a pirate does not make one a liar.
You see the point I trust?
Cao Cao told the truth, the chatlog with CDI was fact, a PA corp attempted to hire killers to target neutrals (including Jericho Fraction) in tribute as some kind of dirty tricks campaign to remove opposition so they could make a fortune out of the D7 station.
You have been played like a fool ****take but not by anyone other than CDI and yourself.
Quote: My frustration during that long day was with Reikoku for repeatedly invading our space and attacking several different PA alliance corp members. Although, I am a little distressed that FU seems to be so buddy-buddy with Reikoku (who also seem to work with Palladins as of late).
Ridiculous statement. You are in the wrong so you attempt to slur Reikoku for an association with pirates that has no basis in fact? Are you a child to attempt such a poor misdirection? If anyone has an association with Paladins it is Pheonix Alliance, after all your alliance membercorp attempted to buy them.
Quote: These comments and beliefs are mine and mine alone. Not my corp's, and not my alliance's.
But of course its not so simple. If a Jericho Fraction member came on this thread and spieled a load of half-truths, juvenile evasions, nonsense and ill-thought out slander, do you suspect for one moment that the Jericho Fraction name would be secure from association with such a display? No, I think not. You are not your spaceship ****take, but you are your corp. That is a hard truth you have to learn.
And PA has to learn that it will be held accountable for the actions of its membercorps.
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Galavet
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Posted - 2004.05.18 05:50:00 -
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Edited by: Galavet on 18/05/2004 05:54:24
Originally by: ****take
I had spent many hours that evening in convos (one telling Reikoku ever so politely to leave PA space but they seem to think they can go wherever they want) and preparaing for battle in D7 (which was averted by me being a middle man SweatySack, Halseth, and CDI reps). All this convo and TS garbage had worn me out.
Then I was invited into (what I think was) the FU TS server. They seemed to have overwhelming evidence against CDI for hiring Palladins to gank some people. I don't know about you, but whatever evidence Cao Cao claimed to have (I assume chat logs), I will have trouble believing it since he is a pirate and we know how pirates are (in game that is).
My frustration during that long day was with Reikoku for repeatedly invading our space and attacking several different PA alliance corp members. Although, I am a little distressed that FU seems to be so buddy-buddy with Reikoku (who also seem to work with Palladins as of late).
These comments and beliefs are mine and mine alone. Not my corp's, and not my alliance's.
****take I highly suggest you delete your post now and then go back and talk to your leadership about our current situation.
We are not the ones working with or trying to work with Paladins, you should really take a long look at CDI before you start pointing your fingers at us.
Not one hour after speaking to PA leadership about getting them under control and agreeing to a temporay cease fire, 3 CDI Battleships attempted to gank one of my raven pilots. The cdi ship remains can be found orbiting the D7 station if you want to come wash those too.
And as for our invasion force in venal, it was one frig sent to scout a blob I thought might be some more CDI coming to fight, so get a grip.
We are Fade Union allies so they are all "buddy buddy" with us and I was on there teamspeak for almost 2 hours working on this before you even had a chance to get booted.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 06:43:00 -
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Edited by: Propehcy on 18/05/2004 06:45:08 Blah! I'll just skip the two previous posts, then I won't flame.
Instead, I'll just laugh endlessly at NAST(y) PA politics, and be doubley glad i'm in CA, with The DarkLords Iron fist to slap the Ban Hammer on anyone to show such disrespect to a fellow alliance member. Go CA Go! Go CA Go! .
Oh, And Jadrut:
ROFL!
Edit: Changed "Jad" to "Jadrut", so nullify any confusion that might ensue. Can't have people thinking that I think Jade is humorous . ** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
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The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 06:52:00 -
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/me Reads some of Jades Post.
Quote: Because one of your member corps has been taxing neutral corporations in the Tribute free space Zone the healthy sum of 15m isk per day.
LOL! Why didn't we think of that? We should be charging someone for something.. I thought we were supposed to be the Evil Guys? C'mon PA! Stop Crampin' our Style! If you're gonna go for the badass "Bad Guy" Alliance thing, At least do it in style .
And Really Jade, let's just call everyone from .4 and down pirates. We know you all, and we all, All Are! . All except Cao Cao of course, he's the biggest carbear i've ever met (right buddy? ).
And Can you Really blame people for wanting JF to take some hits? After all the greif you caused PA? C'mon now Jade, Really! 
I always knew reikocku would turn pirate, just like everyone else in 0.0 space! Right Jade! Bwahaha.
Quote: But of course its not so simple. If a Jericho Fraction member came on this thread and spieled a load of half-truths, juvenile evasions, nonsense and ill-thought out slander, do you suspect for one moment that the Jericho Fraction name would be secure from association with such a display?
/me looks at post, then Jade, back to post, and finally grins at Jade
LOL! You're making it to easy for me Jade! Really, Usually I have to spend a minute or to looking to find holes .
Heh heh heh. Alexi always seems to put me in a good mood.
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The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.05.18 08:20:00 -
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you know what, darth still hasn't changed my title 
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.05.18 08:29:00 -
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Lol dude sounded like a scene from a Bill and Ted film .. like totaly awsome man .... LMAO
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.05.18 08:44:00 -
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jade - after all this time i find myself in agreement with you, and not for the simple reason that your post seems to be attacking the underhanded tactics of PA corps, but because you have actually put forth an effort to set the record straight in a non-biased way.
that and you used words even this 'immature CA scum' could understand
love ya, babe!
as for CDI and PA, I hope all parties involved will seriously look at their ally list and make some difficult decisions.
and a final statement: OOC pirates are, if anything, more trustworthy than their IC counterparts.
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |

Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.05.18 09:09:00 -
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Sh!ttake,
You and Mr nStuff from your own corp easily pull the winning numbers for #1 and #2 biggest morons in the game, and that's saying a lot (believe me).
Shia
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Trooble
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Posted - 2004.05.18 09:09:00 -
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Quote: Instead, I'll just laugh endlessly at NAST(y) PA politics
I'll laugh with you.
Quote: Damn, I sounded like idiot in that clip.
I dont think idiot is the right word too use, perhaps something a little stronger is in order, but Im sure the profanity filter will work overtime if I was to post it.
Your just another classic PA grunt.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.05.18 09:33:00 -
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nice mp3  Wanna fly with me?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.05.18 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/05/2004 10:08:51 Just to reiterate for anyone confused (*cough prophecy *cough*)
CDI are KOS to RKK for attempting to hire pirates to kill everyone in Tribute including all of our friends.
Paladins are KOS to RKK (always have been, always will be) for being pirates. We have never worked with them.
The rest of the innocent PA corps are not KOS.
Phonix is hilarious on TS, he doesn't take any **** from anyone and isn't afraid to stand up to bullies.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.05.18 09:58:00 -
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Lmao, haha.   
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.05.18 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Propehcy
And Really Jade, let's just call everyone from .4 and down pirates.
Are you talking about security status or location in space? Either way Im ******ed.
Quote: Heh heh heh. Alexi always seems to put me in a good mood.
*raises an eyebrow* We'll talk about this post later 
Like this sig? Check out my sig shoppe.. Zen Jakkaru - "Alexandra Belani (Most sexy terr |

Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:03:00 -
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****take, Cao Cao told us about it in chat, and we got him on TS about 1 minute after Conmen offered his proposal. We all had a great laugh about it. Right when Conmen asked him, he immediately told us. This was all within minutes of you CDI asshats ganking Remo.
Anyhow, I trust him anyhow, and this is after his corp popped two of our bs's the day before. =) Right when the ganking happened, he was in system, and thought that was the most incredibly lame thing ever and offered us assistance.
Stick that in your carebear pipe and smoke it.
Still a little more than surprised you haven't kicked CDI out of PA, they seem to be one hell of liability to PA's health and reputation. ______________________
What Aerick has been up to lately.. |

Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:19:00 -
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DBP. Everyone in 0.0 space are Pirates. Look at the Guristas. Pirates! Angel Cartel. Pirates! CA. Alledgidley Pirates! Now you're a pirate to! We live with it. Suck it up DBP. Pirate to Pirate, (me to you). We're pirates Sister, just a matter of who the carbears hate more. (That's usually us though )
Quote: Still a little more than surprised you haven't kicked CDI out of PA, they seem to be one hell of liability to PA's health and reputation.
Being at war with CA is also unhealthy! 
Quote: *raises an eyebrow* We'll talk about this post later 
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Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:21:00 -
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Wow looks like judgement day for the PA. Everyone, their grandmother and their greatgrandfather's dog seem to be out to villify the PA.
I dont see why Revol are complaining since they are the one's whose members were shooting down PA ships in venal and elsewhere. So I dont think they have a leg to stand on if we do the same and say "oops our bad", because thats exactly what they did. And anyways aren't revol supposed to be overthrowing FA or something.
As for RKK they being the ones who claimed they would kill PA if they were offered money and then claiming it was a joke, maybe conmen meant it as a joke as well. If you can joke so can we. And as for DB Preachers pompous statements about just CDI being on their kos list and the rest of us carebears in PA can keep our miserable lives, I say dont pretend you are more than what you are. What do you think if RKK put us all on their KOS list we would all run off to mommy or something.
I am not even going to address the CA guys who posted here because I sense a lot of anger and frustration in their words, let them cool down first.
And finally for all you friendly people offering us advice on what to do with CDI, mind your own friggin business. We take care of our own whether it be good or bad. And why dont all you hypocrites get the plank out of your eye before you remove the speck from ours.
Good day to all, and remember just because the PA does not have as many forum warriors as the rest of you does not mean we are weak. Forum warriors do not an alliance make.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/05/2004 15:45:58
Originally by: Darken Two
As for RKK they being the ones who claimed they would kill PA if they were offered money and then claiming it was a joke, maybe conmen meant it as a joke as well.
Actions speak louder than words.
I thought artegg knew we were messing around as we are friends from the NVA time. However, the truth of the matter remains that people on all sides attempted to hire RKK to attack the PA and each and every offer was turned down.
CDI attempted to hire PIRATES to kill EVERYONE (not just RKK) in Tribute.
Originally by: Darken Two
DB Preachers pompous statements about just CDI being on their kos list and the rest of us carebears in PA can keep our miserable lives, I say dont pretend you are more than what you are. What do you think if RKK put us all on their KOS list we would all run off to mommy or something.
I think you misunderstand, that wasn't a pompous statement.
It was a statement to show that we differentiate between the GOOD corps in the alliance (e.g. NSN, R-K, OI) and the blatantly evil corps in the alliance.
At no point did I say "the rest of us carebears in PA can keep our miserable lives" because that simply isn't what I think.
There appears to be a constant mix of information handed out from the PA. On one hand, the eve universe is told that individual corps in the PA can deal with thier own problems, however, it appears that isn't the case all the time. The duality of this information is extremely confusing for the rest of the eve universe.
Perhaps you should contact your superiors to see what is occuring in the PA at the minute because I fear you are missing vital information.
You can contact me in-game also when I am around, I would be glad to have a chat with confused individuals about the actions of CDI.
Finally, there was a lot of hatred aimed at RKK for it's forum whoring after the original NAST debacle. We have curbed that forum whoring. However, I won't stand aside and simply shut up when RKK's name is being dragged through the mud. If people don't wish us to forum ***** then quite simply don't challenge us in the forums.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:37:00 -
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Hope you didn't mean me as the Angry CA guy, i'm CA, and a guy. But on this thread, i'm laughing my ass off 
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The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Propehcy DBP. Everyone in 0.0 space are Pirates. Look at the Guristas. Pirates! Angel Cartel. Pirates! CA. Alledgidley Pirates! Now you're a pirate to! We live with it. Suck it up DBP. Pirate to Pirate, (me to you). We're pirates Sister, just a matter of who the carbears hate more. (That's usually us though )
You are a pirate, you old donkey lover.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:49:00 -
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So are you! Swine! 
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Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Notferr
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Propehcy DBP. Everyone in 0.0 space are Pirates. Look at the Guristas. Pirates! Angel Cartel. Pirates! CA. Alledgidley Pirates! Now you're a pirate to! We live with it. Suck it up DBP. Pirate to Pirate, (me to you). We're pirates Sister, just a matter of who the carbears hate more. (That's usually us though )
You are a pirate, you old donkey lover.
dbp
ROTF, that's rich...
DBP, you killing me here!
Propehcy, warm up your best, man! Let's see it!
D-A-M-N, I love this game!
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Ribbo
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:55:00 -
[42]
Hello Jade,
not nit-picking, but just a few questions on your post that i think might need to be cleared up, as i believe you might know most of this weekends events have been/are being worked out between PA, RKK and FU diplomats. Damage limitation and all that.
Originally by: Jade Constantine
RKK had been subject to a KOS from the PA order and received solid evidence that PA corporations were hiring pirate corps to attack them. They considered this an act of war (strangely) and were in "your" territory/"claimed space" to hold you to account for the actions of a member corporation.
Im aware of CDI hiring PLD's etc (and when i found out boy was i unhappy about it) but i know of no others, could you clarify this please as you say you have solid evidence.
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Let me put this into perspective for you. Phoenix Alliance are "pirates" yourself, yes, right now. You know why? Because one of your member corps has been taxing neutral corporations in the Tribute free space Zone the healthy sum of 15m isk per day. This in total violation of the NAST treaty declared by Halseth Durn and full opposition to the purpose of that freespace declaration. And yes there is a chatlog, and yes I believe it also. So by association, you are a pirate ****take, you belong to a pirate alliance. Your member corps are making money from Piracy.
If you've got chatlogs if not so done already pleaes could you make them available to Halseth Durth, PA are a non-pirate alliance if you've got complaints and evidence contradicting please make them formal and present any evidence to the top bods so it can be investigated and acted upon because as you said, if Jericho had a bad egg in the packet it would be weeded out pretty fast.
(how are swflb nowerdays :D )
Regards
Ribbo
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:58:00 -
[43]
Quote: I dont see why Revol are complaining since they are the one's whose members were shooting down PA ships in venal and elsewhere. So I dont think they have a leg to stand on if we do the same and say "oops our bad", because thats exactly what they did.
Explain, I'm curious.
You mean the thing I worked diligently on for 7 hours with various reps from PA while you guys revoked and re-added us to KOS twice daily? Let me remind you that this was going on when Revol was doing joint patrols with PA against pirates, let me also remind you that we lost 2 battleships to the paladins in the defense of the station the day before this all happened.
Those talks drove me bananas towards the end and our patience was all but exhausted on the matter. We were going to pay some compensation to you guys, but after all of your threats and actions we decided we were through with talking, and the CDI gang gank seconds later was the result, then moments later they tried to hire PLD who killed two of our battleships the day before to kill us.
The funny part about this is I told Remo to get out of the gang and get to a safe spot because I was going to tell them the discussion was over, but he refused to do it because he didnt want to lose trust while I said it because I my guts told me CDI was going to pull lameness like this before it happened. PLD thought that was lame, and told us about the merc offer from Conmen immediately and offered assistance. So you see we had alot to complain about, and we did it with our guns after that.
Now during these talks when we are not kos half of PA shoots at us, while the other half doesnt. You guys can't even tell your own corps what the hell is going on which indirectly which led up to this whole mess. I'm not going to re-explain the whole matter considering its posted elsewhere, go read it.
As far as "oops, our bad", CDI hasn't approached any one of us to apologize or offer compensation. It's really too bad PA had to pay our compensation in BS's for that lame act by a rogue member of their alliance which caused to the whole thing in the first place. ______________________
What Aerick has been up to lately.. |

Ribbo
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Posted - 2004.05.18 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ribbo on 18/05/2004 16:00:00 double post..
carry on, nothing to see :D
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 16:03:00 -
[45]
Sounds like Politics are driving you bannanas Aerick, Ever considerd CA's Communist type rule? 
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Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.05.18 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/05/2004 16:06:14 We have chatlogs of both CDI's attempts to hire mercenaries and CDI's attempts to get a corp to pay them 15m isk per day to mine in tribute and CDI making them KOS for not paying up.
We have FU members testimonies about TS conversations of PA members attempting to lie to the FU about RKK involvement in so-called "daily runs into tribute killing PA shipping" and "killing PA in EC". This apparently occured while we were actually stationed down in curse.
We also have recordings of TS conversations where R-K promise RKK they can curb CDI and state they will quit the PA if they cannot. Less than one hour later, we had CDI attacking our forces again. We have yet to get a response to this.
These have been made available to the PA, if any individual member of PA wishes to access any of this information then please contact our CEO Galavet, our PR Director Lion El'Johnson or myself.
thx dbp
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Ribbo
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Posted - 2004.05.18 16:07:00 -
[47]
cheers preacher, appretiate the straight factual answer, we can clarify tho that it's just CDI that keeps reappearing and no other PA corp.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.05.18 16:12:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Ribbo cheers preacher, appretiate the straight factual answer, we can clarify tho that it's just CDI that keeps reappearing and no other PA corp.
That is correct.
We have received the full support of most of the other PA corps on this issue.
dbp
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.05.18 16:12:00 -
[49]
Seems that CDI has take a page out of Everlasting Vewndetta's old playbook. How long until they hire ppl to start killing allies?
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 16:32:00 -
[50]
I smell Civil war. Can I name the next alliance? .
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Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.05.18 17:00:00 -
[51]
only if i can name your babies!!
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Ribbo
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:10:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Jadrut only if i can name your babies!!
"ugly" "illigitimate" "amarrian"
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:12:00 -
[53]
Ribbo,
Quote: Not nit-picking, but just a few questions on your post that i think might need to be cleared up, as i believe you might know most of this weekends events have been/are being worked out between PA, RKK and FU diplomats. Damage limitation and all that.
I spent a fair bit of time in Teamspeak myself on these issues at the weekend, it seemed a lot of people were very keen to resolve issues and avoid outright conflict, but a significant member of the PA seemed to take the opposite tact.
Quote: Im aware of CDI hiring PLD's etc (and when i found out boy was i unhappy about it) but i know of no others, could you clarify this please as you say you have solid evidence.
CDI is the one we had the solid proof of wrongdoings for. (Targetting Jericho and others for pirate attack etc). While I do have personal doubts about many of the corporations that have been seen in gangs with CDI recently, I don't believe there is any evidence of these names hiring their own pirate thugs independently.
Quote: If you've got chatlogs if not so done already pleaes could you make them available to Halseth Durth, PA are a non-pirate alliance if you've got complaints and evidence contradicting please make them formal and present any evidence to the top bods so it can be investigated and acted upon because as you said, if Jericho had a bad egg in the packet it would be weeded out pretty fast.
I believe they have been made available. I suspect Halseth would take a personal interest in what is a direct and appalling corruption of the core principles of his NAST treaty. And I hope you will agree that a PA corp "tolling" neutrals in a freespace zone 15m per day ... simply should not be a PA corp.
Quote: (how are swflb nowerdays :D )
Nothing to do with us. Sharks with Laser Beams have their own leader and their own objectives and policies that we are not privy too in any way shape or means. (In fact I would make an educated guess that PA spy-alts in Sharks know more than we do about what goes on there)
;)
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |

crice
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:16:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Jade Constantine Ribbo,
Quote: Not nit-picking, but just a few questions on your post that i think might need to be cleared up, as i believe you might know most of this weekends events have been/are being worked out between PA, RKK and FU diplomats. Damage limitation and all that.
I spent a fair bit of time in Teamspeak myself on these issues at the weekend, it seemed a lot of people were very keen to resolve issues and avoid outright conflict, but a significant member of the PA seemed to take the opposite tact.
Quote: Im aware of CDI hiring PLD's etc (and when i found out boy was i unhappy about it) but i know of no others, could you clarify this please as you say you have solid evidence.
CDI is the one we had the solid proof of wrongdoings for. (Targetting Jericho and others for pirate attack etc). While I do have personal doubts about many of the corporations that have been seen in gangs with CDI recently, I don't believe there is any evidence of these names hiring their own pirate thugs independently.
Quote: If you've got chatlogs if not so done already pleaes could you make them available to Halseth Durth, PA are a non-pirate alliance if you've got complaints and evidence contradicting please make them formal and present any evidence to the top bods so it can be investigated and acted upon because as you said, if Jericho had a bad egg in the packet it would be weeded out pretty fast.
I believe they have been made available. I suspect Halseth would take a personal interest in what is a direct and appalling corruption of the core principles of his NAST treaty. And I hope you will agree that a PA corp "tolling" neutrals in a freespace zone 15m per day ... simply should not be a PA corp.
Quote: (how are swflb nowerdays :D )
Nothing to do with us. Sharks with Laser Beams have their own leader and their own objectives and policies that we are not privy too in any way shape or means. (In fact I would make an educated guess that PA spy-alts in Sharks know more than we do about what goes on there)
;)
Love and peace
Thank you PA spokesperson.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:29:00 -
[55]
LOL.
I thought all of FRICK were your alts Jade? 
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Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:33:00 -
[56]
and m0o are yours eh propehcy? 
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:34:00 -
[57]
Nope. But Some of CELEST are .
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The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:36:00 -
[58]
Actually almost everyone posting in this thread is my alt. I'm surprised I have the time to keep this up. =)
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:37:00 -
[59]
[Crice]
Quote: Thank you PA spokesperson.
Ummm, would you like me to mail you a link to an online "clue" shop Crice?
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Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:58:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Jade Constantine [Crice]
Quote: Thank you PA spokesperson.
Ummm, would you like me to mail you a link to an online "clue" shop Crice?
Actually jade.. I think u should :¦
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.05.18 19:09:00 -
[61]
OK, couple of things here, and I've got a couple of statements from CDI.
[CDI]Conmen is not a director in CDI and his converstion with Red Paladins was not backed by the CEO's of CDI. He is currently taking a leave of absense from the game, and is still being dealt with internally.
CDI would never demand ISK to mine and are not a pirate organisation. I have been asked by CDI directors to make it known that if a CDI member has demanded ISK for mining then please submit evidence of this to the corporation and the culprit will be expelled from CDI and the PA. This behavior is not condoned by the PA or CDI, and it is highley unacceptable.
As for the FU/PA stuff, there's nothing really to say on that, it's all being sorted and is a MASSIVE misunderstanding that we have appologised for repeatedly and are working tirelessly to make things right.
I cannot stress enough that the PA is a strictly anti pirate organisation who do a lot of work making space lanes safer in our regions and others for the people of EVE. The many good things that our organisation does seems to get shadowed by a single incident.
We have a lot of members and make sure we deal with people appropriately. However, being a large organisation we can't solve things instantly and ask for people's patience whilst we try and find out what is going on, and gather evidence and information.
I am concerned this is turning into a witch hunt, and request that people listen to all facts before making their minds up about things.
CDI directors don't read or post on these forums, hence information travels slowely between them and here.
I'm not claiming wrong doing hasn't been done, but please wait for facts before accusing an entire corporation or alliance for the actions of one or two people out of hundreds. ---
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.05.18 19:23:00 -
[62]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/05/2004 19:39:41 Inkz: just contact me for a copy instead of me spamming the forums with it.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.05.18 19:31:00 -
[63]
Comon Inkz they aint gonna just come out and say they demanded 15mil for mining
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.05.18 19:43:00 -
[64]
Hell, finaly some forum war with something different than CA 
I love the mp3 btw 
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.05.18 19:45:00 -
[65]
DBP...you had the log posted, but edited it out! plz put it back!
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.05.18 19:49:00 -
[66]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/05/2004 19:50:25
Originally by: Marichek DBP...you had the log posted, but edited it out! plz put it back!
No can do, I was asked to remove it by request of the corporation in question.
It will be passed to Inkzy if he asks for it in-game instead.
dbp
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.05.18 20:07:00 -
[67]
Edited by: KIAInkZ on 18/05/2004 20:09:07 Yes, please pass to me in game. ---
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Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.05.18 20:07:00 -
[68]
My only question here is why does Fade Union continue to eat PA cAKe? I don't get it . . . there is overwhelming evidence of piracy on the PA's behalf, SIX Fade capital ships were destroyed, and yet the PA continues to take what the PA chooses to give it, and swallow willingly.
When is the Fade Union gonna grow some nads and declare yourselves free from being the lapdog of PA? Fade has come a long way since we subjected you to imperialistic rule. You are strong now, yet you still bow to the whims and wishes of the Phoenix Alliance.
It's time for the Fade Union to take sides in this affair, you can't have it both ways. Either join up with the "good guys," i.e., Jericho and RKK, or join the Dark Side with us pirates and the Phoenix Alliance, at which point you should be shooting at them anyway .
Oh ya and referencing my previous topic on alignments, I think clearly and undeniably the Phoenix Alliance have shown themselves to be neutral-evil. They don't care if they operate in or outside of the law, and their only care is what benefits them.
One last comment,
For those of you who say "oh but don't blame us for the actions of only ONE of our alliance mates!" What do you think people would say if New York State tried to distance itself and disclaim responsibility for the actions of the U.S.? Just an example. You are all responsible for your fellow alliance members' conduct, especially so where your leadership refuses to take measures designed to prevent/correct it.
Shia
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Shar Gath
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Posted - 2004.05.18 21:52:00 -
[69]
ppl, I really dont understand why any of PA members even bother to read any of those forums, this thread or another, not to mention writing anything in here. Maybe this is entertaining but only once or twice... Let those funny ppl spend their lives on teh forums, there is nothing they can do in game anyways. This is just incredible how you all hate PA just beacouse you can do nothing about it But this is rather a 5 year old kid attitude..... -------------------
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.05.18 21:57:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Shar Gath This is just incredible how you all hate PA just beacouse you can do nothing about it But this is rather a 5 year old kid attitude.....

No comment needed.
Eve Blacklight Style
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crice
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Posted - 2004.05.18 22:17:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Shar Gath ppl, I really dont understand why any of PA members even bother to read any of those forums, this thread or another, not to mention writing anything in here. Maybe this is entertaining but only once or twice... Let those funny ppl spend their lives on teh forums, there is nothing they can do in game anyways. This is just incredible how you all hate PA just beacouse you can do nothing about it But this is rather a 5 year old kid attitude.....
So your speaking for the PA? Please confirm.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.05.18 22:20:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Notferr I am forming the I HATE ALL POLITICS - ALL LAWYERS AND WEASELS MUST DIE Corp. Our ticker will be IHAP-ALAWMD.
The office of CEO will be determined buy who can get the drunkest fastest, and who can sing the best version of the 'Men in Tights' theme song while drunk.
Also, all pilots will be forced to fly Bestowers unless you are that week's CEO, in which case you can drive an Ibis.
Taxes are 100% and is used to buy homeless people we can beat into bloody pulps at our discression.
Who wants in?
Crice, you in?
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Klydor
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Posted - 2004.05.18 22:23:00 -
[73]
Whats next, are you going to start monitoring eve players phone calls to get even more records to post to cause flame fests on the forums? Despite not caring what happens with the two alliances in question, I think its a bit low to record meetings without at least getting all their permissions.
It reminds me of the time a certain person hacked into a certain corps website in order to get personal details which they then posted everywhere. That was just as low.
PS I havn't listened to the convo and have no intrest in doing so. Alliances bore me.
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crice
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Posted - 2004.05.18 22:26:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Notferr
Originally by: Notferr I am forming the I HATE ALL POLITICS - ALL LAWYERS AND WEASELS MUST DIE Corp. Our ticker will be IHAP-ALAWMD.
The office of CEO will be determined buy who can get the drunkest fastest, and who can sing the best version of the 'Men in Tights' theme song while drunk.
Also, all pilots will be forced to fly Bestowers unless you are that week's CEO, in which case you can drive an Ibis.
Taxes are 100% and is used to buy homeless people we can beat into bloody pulps at our discression.
Who wants in?
Crice, you in?
I hate politics! I don't jump on bandwagons though. I have many "friends" in the PA.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.05.18 22:27:00 -
[75]
Originally by: crice
Originally by: Notferr
Originally by: Notferr I am forming the I HATE ALL POLITICS - ALL LAWYERS AND WEASELS MUST DIE Corp. Our ticker will be IHAP-ALAWMD.
The office of CEO will be determined buy who can get the drunkest fastest, and who can sing the best version of the 'Men in Tights' theme song while drunk.
Also, all pilots will be forced to fly Bestowers unless you are that week's CEO, in which case you can drive an Ibis.
Taxes are 100% and is used to buy homeless people we can beat into bloody pulps at our discression.
Who wants in?
Crice, you in?
I hate politics! I don't jump on bandwagons though. I have many "friends" in the PA.
DAMNIT! We needed a Bestower fleet commander!
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Halseth
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Posted - 2004.05.18 22:29:00 -
[76]
This matter and its subsequent sources are now being dealt with from within the Phoenix Alliance. I must now humbly ask for the galaxies patience and restraint with their opinions until final words on this are distributed by myself.
And yes I am back, and not very happy about it. 
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crice
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Posted - 2004.05.18 22:32:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Halseth This matter and its subsequent sources are now being dealt with from within the Phoenix Alliance. I must now humbly ask for the galaxies patience and restraint with their opinions until final words on this are distributed by myself.
And yes I am back, and not very happy about it. 
Thank you Halseth. Welcome back.
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Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.05.18 23:05:00 -
[78]
Sounds to me like good journalism buddy.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.19 00:31:00 -
[79]
Originally by: KiaInkz This behavior is not condoned by the PA or CDI, and it is highley unacceptable.
WTF does that mean? You're anti-pirate, but don't condone piracy? Which is it?
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Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.05.19 00:35:00 -
[80]
John Kerry? :) ______________________
What Aerick has been up to lately.. |

Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.05.19 00:43:00 -
[81]
LOL
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The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.05.19 02:00:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Propehcy
WTF does that mean? You're anti-pirate, but don't condone piracy? Which is it?
Huh? WTF does that mean?
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Gothic Beauty
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Posted - 2004.05.19 02:08:00 -
[83]
Are u all nuts?
Editing a chatlog is so simple, hell, its only a .txt file, everybody could do that.
Not to accuse anybody here of faking truths, but why in general are chatlogs in the forums here considered as a proof?
Sorry, i dont get it...
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Reassor
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Posted - 2004.05.19 03:17:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Gothic Beauty Are u all nuts?
Editing a chatlog is so simple, hell, its only a .txt file, everybody could do that.
Not to accuse anybody here of faking truths, but why in general are chatlogs in the forums here considered as a proof?
Sorry, i dont get it...
yeah and thats a good point:P i can make chat log where DBP are askin for 15mil per day for mining in tribute .... thats not hard to make:P
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Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.05.19 05:01:00 -
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If I understand correctly, its the way in which Cao Cao produced the chat log that speaks to its authenticity. Far as I know he didn't even know it had been saved until Tbone from Rev0l explained to him how to go and fetch it since it auto-saves. He then within minutes emailed it over.
Also if you just look at it, you can tell it isn't faked. It's pretty easy to spot a faked conversation.
Shia
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Reassor
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Posted - 2004.05.19 05:13:00 -
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im not sayng that sum1 make a fake chatlog im only sayn that chatlog isnt good as a evidence:P
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.05.19 09:12:00 -
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Then I guess the people concerned will be contacted for verification rather than just relying on a chatlog.
Let's just leave things in the hands of the PA, I'm sure justice (depending on the findings) will be carried out.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.05.19 10:17:00 -
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What i don't understand is that people can not see that Conmen is not a director of CDI, he does not speak for CDI blah blah blah. Surely that is enough for people to realise that this was not a CDI action. If the chat log had been involving SHARK or Krullz then it would have meant something but as it did not it is totally worthless.
As DBP said i had a chat log of him saying they would attack RONA for isk. Do I really think they would NO (even if i did start the convo with DBP can i ask you a serious question what ........)
Some chat in this game need to be taken with a pinch of salt na forget that a lorry load of salt. This post is all about the enemies of the PA trying to destroy them from the inside because they can not do it anyother way. This makes Artegg Sad
Also as inkz said the CDI leadership do not post on the forums or even read them, guess what they play the game not the forums and i think a lot of people posting in this thread could and should take a leaf out of their books
Artegg Out
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.05.19 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: Grimster on 19/05/2004 10:57:03
Originally by: Artegg What i don't understand is that people can not see that Conmen is not a director of CDI, he does not speak for CDI blah blah blah. Surely that is enough for people to realise that this was not a CDI action. If the chat log had been involving SHARK or Krullz then it would have meant something but as it did not it is totally worthless.
Yup, but the thing is the contract was taken up by a 3rd party and hostilities were initiated by them, monies for mining also collected, that's like DBP saying to me:
"Get your buddies in MF to attack >insert corporation here< but it's nothing to do with us if anyone asks"
Regardless of whether the person in question is the leadership of the corp or not, that person is still representing the corporation, the same as a corporation is a representative of an alliance.
If they had any sense they would have done it through an alt or OOG and left CDI out of it. I mean who in their right minds would be so unsubtle as to associate his own corporation with this kind of mess without a. wishing harm to his own corp or b. having the backing of the corp leadership?
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Some chat in this game need to be taken with a pinch of salt na forget that a lorry load of salt. This post is all about the enemies of the PA trying to destroy them from the inside because they can not do it anyother way. This makes Artegg Sad
I would agree, this is a sad situation, but IMHO the PA leadership needs to quickly jump on "suspected problems", and if wrongdoing is discovered take appropriate action in order to maintain the credibility I'm sure they deserve.
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Also as inkz said the CDI leadership do not post on the forums or even read them, guess what they play the game not the forums and i think a lot of people posting in this thread could and should take a leaf out of their books
Only usually read/post when at work and can't play due to damned firewall. Play plenty when at home though, and let's face it the forums are the best way of finding out what's going on in EvE with just a little filtering. 
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.05.19 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aerick Dawn John Kerry? :)
ROTFLMAOLOL

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Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.05.19 13:48:00 -
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If they were fake, I think you would see Conmen come in here and vehemently and flamingly deny he said it, dont you?
If someone made up a chatlog about me, I would be extremely ticked off.
Anyhow, if a member is in your corp and pulled that crap, and you DONT kick him out of the corp, that tells me that CDI condones his action, therefore PA condoned his action if they dont kick CDI out, its as simple as that. You must be held accountable for a member action. If someone screwed up in Revol like that, they have to be out of Revol either voluntarily or involuntarily., its pretty simple, and we've proved that we will do it for the betterment of the corp. ______________________
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.05.19 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Artegg What i don''t understand is that people can not see that Conmen is not a director of CDI, he does not speak for CDI blah blah blah. Surely that is enough for people to realise that this was not a CDI action. If the chat log had been involving SHARK or Krullz then it would have meant something but as it did not it is totally worthless.
As DBP said i had a chat log of him saying they would attack RONA for isk. Do I really think they would NO (even if i did start the convo with DBP can i ask you a serious question what ........)
Some chat in this game need to be taken with a pinch of salt na forget that a lorry load of salt. This post is all about the enemies of the PA trying to destroy them from the inside because they can not do it anyother way. This makes Artegg Sad
Also as inkz said the CDI leadership do not post on the forums or even read them, guess what they play the game not the forums and i think a lot of people posting in this thread could and should take a leaf out of their books
Artegg Out
Hey Art you know I got a lot of respect for you and InkZ but I KNOW from being in the NVA with CDI that they both read the forums and have posted on them. Now it may have been awhile since they did but at least at one point they did.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.05.19 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Aerick Dawn If they were fake, I think you would see Conmen come in here and vehemently and flamingly deny he said it, dont you?
If someone made up a chatlog about me, I would be extremely ticked off.
Anyhow, if a member is in your corp and pulled that crap, and you DONT kick him out of the corp, that tells me that CDI condones his action, therefore PA condoned his action if they dont kick CDI out, its as simple as that. You must be held accountable for a member action. If someone screwed up in Revol like that, they have to be out of Revol either voluntarily or involuntarily., its pretty simple, and we've proved that we will do it for the betterment of the corp.
I agree the reason why he has not is because it is my understanding that he has quit eve 
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.05.19 19:35:00 -
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it would be nice if the PA/CDI/FU would make some sort of announcement so that we can all stop arguing and calling eachother n0rty things.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.05.19 20:01:00 -
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My god.. I finally get around to intefering in other alliances business and I have but one thing to say: thats got to be the funniest sound clip ever... although, i have two other things to say now. 1.) kill the mole... the fact that i heard that clip means your security sucks, and yopu need to deal with it. 2.) Pirates arent bad guys, infact, I find them useful, information is always a good thing, and most seem to traffic it, and reliably as well.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.05.19 20:11:00 -
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We are all retiring from the north and moving to Flordia, to wrestle alligators and age gracefully.
The Reclaimer is not allowed in our retirement community and remains KOS.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.05.19 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Notferr We are all retiring from the north and moving to Flordia, to wrestle alligators and age gracefully.
The Reclaimer is not allowed in our retirement community and remains KOS.
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My grandparents winter in Panama City Beach. Lots of rednecks there (you would fit in ). But thankfully they are confinded to the hurricane ready trailor parks not the multimillion dollar condo's and homes I see when there.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.05.19 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: The Reclaimer My grandparents winter in Panama City Beach. Lots of rednecks there (you would fit in ). But thankfully they are confinded to the hurricane ready trailor parks not the multimillion dollar condo's and homes I see when there.
Lol
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Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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