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Cead Lothian State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.02 23:09:00 - [1] Edited by: Cead Lothian on 02/07/2008 23:11:46 Originally by: Jade Constantine The bottom line is you want controlled arena pvp where you get to fight in lowsec and get protected in highsec but sorry Eve is not the game you are looking for......if you want to be "safe" in hisec disband the corporation... This is eve online - not my little pony online. Actions have consequence. Deal with that. Im not sure if your being deliberately obtuse or not, but this is exactly what star fraction is doing by war deccing a corp in a faction militia. I expect that disband is coming soon then right? You get to fight in caldari space whilst being invulnerable to them in Gallente High sec. You do see this right? im not sure how many times the other guy has to repeat that this is the imbalance that he wants addressed.
Cead Lothian State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.02 23:40:00 - [2] Edited by: Cead Lothian on 02/07/2008 23:43:46 Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Cead Lothian Originally by: Jade Constantine The bottom line is you want controlled arena pvp where you get to fight in lowsec and get protected in highsec but sorry Eve is not the game you are looking for..... if you want to be "safe" in hisec disband the corporation. Im going to quote this again in hopes that you actually answer it. Considering this is exactly the situation corps war deccing militia corps are in, (like your own) how exactly can you say this is balanced? Given that you were an FCR pilot who had an active wardec from our organization and had full rights to shoot back against SF ships without the interference of any npc force (in NOUV) - and given you chose instead to abandon your corp mates and skip back to the npc Militia entity to protect yourself from our wardec. I don't think you have very much to say in this discussion Caed Lothian. dear me jade, your scraping the barrel abit here. yes i was in one of the corps you war decced, and i rather enjoyed myself on the occasions it wasnt just plain ganks, the time we were expecting the usual support you had had around earlier and you jumped in a bunch of bs's on us was pretty fun. My reasons for leaving the corp have very little to do with your good self, so dont flatter yourself. You've still not answered the question tho, and for someone who claims to be able to see 'the bigger picture' your fairly bad at giving others the same benefit of the doubt. p.s. Cead :((((
Cead Lothian State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.02 23:43:00 - [3] Originally by: Dihania You must understand that corporations part of FW are not special. The only special corporations ever are npc ones. Say.. corp A, player owned, is in militia. BUT they also mine and sell on market and haul and mission run in a certain area of high sec. Corp B is annoyed by this because it is "their turf". So corp B declares war on Corp A. I do not see any imbalance. See, but they are, their special because of the fact that they are not permitted to enter half of high sec without getting shot at, effectivly providing a safe haven that jade seems so against in his earlier posts. You cant be against having 'protected' areas for corps, and then have your very own areas and not see theirs some sort of imbalance.
Cead Lothian State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.02 23:51:00 - [4] Originally by: Dihania you my man are obtuse. I stop posting in this pig hole of a thread. my dear fellow thats not the right attitude at all!. corps in militas are different because their constrained by the militia rules. They could as you rightly say disband and become part of the npc corp and they'd be immune. But who does this really benefit? the wardeccers? i cant imagine they'd be greatly pleased if theirs noone to fight. What im arguing is that their should be an equal cost to both the corps in the war dec. The militia members are constrained by the high sec areas they can enter. Its only reasonable to suggest that the aggressors should be under a similar disadvantage.
Cead Lothian State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.03 00:10:00 - [5] Edited by: Cead Lothian on 03/07/2008 00:10:46 Edited by: Cead Lothian on 03/07/2008 00:10:15 Originally by: Lucai Edited by: Lucai on 02/07/2008 23:53:32 The fact that FW corps have to worry about the Navy in some regions is their choosing. see, by wardeccing a corp in the militia you yourself are making a choice to become hostile to that faction. Would it be safe to say that both parties are making the choice to become involved in fw mechanics? Im not unsympathetic to the problems rp alliances have had getting involved with fw, but i dont think allowing them a significant advantage is the way to go about solving it. Originally by: Lucai Thats the reason there is no imbalance as claimed. You confuse a corp or two not being able to attack us everywhere, by their choosing, without worrying about the navy, with all of EVE not being able to attack a corp in a certain area without NPC involvement. admittedly corps 'hiding' in a militia for the added navy protection could be an issue. What your saying though is that a imbalance should be kept because the alternative is worse? Im sure theirs some smart fellas somewhere that can work out a solution that doesnt gimp one side or the other. p.s. i actually posted the one before this before you reposted so bear with me!
Cead Lothian State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.03 00:18:00 - [6] Edited by: Cead Lothian on 03/07/2008 00:18:57 Originally by: Lucai Edited by: Lucai on 03/07/2008 00:04:37 Cead please read my post. good god damn my friend your just too quick :(( Originally by: Lucai Youre still confusing one or two corps with all of eve. FW corps would gain "protection" from all of eve, without all of eve being able to do something against it. actually, (and ive just remembered this so it applies to my previous post as well!), its actually possible to join a militia and to war dec other corporations within it, which would mean its impossible to be immune. (i possibly might have that wrong but i remember some people mentioning it in other threads)
Cead Lothian State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.03 13:09:00 - [7] Originally by: Lucai Edited by: Lucai on 03/07/2008 00:18:18 The bottom line being the current system is ok'ish Originally by: Jade Constantine The bottom line is you want controlled arena pvp where you get to fight in lowsec and get protected in highsec but sorry Eve is not the game you are looking for.... seems not everyone agrees with you! mocking jades foot in mouth moments aside.... Originally by: Lucai but very unsatisfying for all parties involved. Im very open to other solutions I think after how ever many pages this is one thing that both sides can agree on. Its in your best interest to play down the imbalance, and its in the militias interest to play it up, but the fact remains that neither side are going to enjoy themselves in the current state as it is. The argument that 'its not right as it is but the possible alternatives are much worse' isnt really reassuring to the players who are at a disadvantage because of the imbalance as it stands tho.

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