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Bignfurrie Gallente IONSTAR	Posted - 2008.07.01 10:26:00 - [31] Plunder = Pirate Defending = Privateer Spoils = War
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.07.01 11:18:00 - [32] Originally by: FlameGlow Originally by: Cors 1.a person who robs or commits illegal violence at sea or on the shores of the sea. ....... In EVE, we have people who do the above, but they do it for the PVP. Not for the loot. They are NOT pirates. A pirate kills you for money. Not a Killmail. By that definition it's still piracy even if pirate doesn't rob, loot, ransom or gets whatever profit. In lowsec and highsec of course, blowing up anything in 0.0 isn't illegal. I'm sure it's illegal still in the minds of people but there's just no law to enforce consequences, other than the people you just shot deeming you and people wearing your colors a pirate to be killed on sight.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.07.01 12:00:00 - [33] Originally by: Furb Killer NBSI in 0.0 is not pirate imo, it is defending space. In low sec you shoot everyone, so you are just a pirate. If you shoot blues as well yes your a pirate and probably wont remain blue for much longer if your nbsi and shoot neutrals and reds but not blues then that doesnt neccesarily(sp?) make you a pirate.
Furb Killer Gallente USC Militia	Posted - 2008.07.01 12:07:00 - [34] It does make you a pirate when you shoot neutrals (with everyone i mean neutrals + reds, no one shoot blues anyway, why put people on blue and then shoot them?). You shoot neutrals, you are pirate
Matrixcvd Caldari Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.01 15:24:00 - [35] Hey Captain Blye! WHy do you feel the need to respond to RPers with moar RP? who gives a flyin swashbuckling cannon ball what anyone calls you. kill or dont undock
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.07.01 15:53:00 - [36] Originally by: Furb Killer It does make you a pirate when you shoot neutrals (with everyone i mean neutrals + reds, no one shoot blues anyway, why put people on blue and then shoot them?). You shoot neutrals, you are pirate That's fair enough. I define a "neutral" as 'not a friend but has made an arrangement with my corp/alliance to fly in our space'. Strangers who just come in univited get the same treatment I'd give an uninvited stranger I found in my home. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:08:00 - [37] /me wonders why there's this belief that it's okay to defend 0.0, but defending low-sec = pirate. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Absolom Hues Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:11:00 - [38] Our Corporation is Anti-Pirate and we have a NRDS policy. If we see a neutral (meaning not red) engage us because of NBSI, he/she will be quickly changed to red. The neutrals will learn who shoots first and who doesn't... so NRDS does work. I for one believe that NSBI is very close to being a pirate. Think about it.... if you shoot at everyone who isn't your friend, how is that different than what a pirate does? ___ Serving the Gallente Federation... one Caldari ship at a time.
Ekrid	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:03:00 - [39] Originally by: Pwett /me wonders why there's this belief that it's okay to defend 0.0, but defending low-sec = pirate. maybe cause someone has already claimed that land, perhaps they are called the imperial factions? and Concord is a 3rd party police force that basically says "well smack you for shooting anyone in this space"?
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:12:00 - [40] I see neither navies or concord in low-sec. That's like me saying that I claim Portugal. It's mine, and if anyone says otherwise, I'm going to punch them if they ever come into my house. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:19:00 - [41] Originally by: Danton Marcellus I'd consider anyone operating under NBSI and doing roaming gangs well out of their claimed space a pirate. Personally, I'd call them a sovreign fleet on an operation, but that's just me. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
FlameGlow Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:25:00 - [42] Originally by: Pwett I see neither navies or concord in low-sec. That's like me saying that I claim Portugal. It's mine, and if anyone says otherwise, I'm going to punch them if they ever come into my house. Laws aren't enforced well in lowsec, but they still exist - you have sentries shoot you and security status drop if you attack unprovoked. That is a sign that you're commiting act of illegal violence and therefore, by definition, you're a pirate -> There are no laws in 0.0 so it's actually impossible to be a pirate there(what you do has to be illegal, remember?) - heard that 0.0 wannabe pirates? you're no pirates, just some random punks
manasi Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:29:00 - [43] Originally by: Danton Marcellus I'd consider anyone operating under NBSI and doing roaming gangs well out of their claimed space a pirate. That is certainly a view to which you are entitled. Specifically NBSI is a way of life in certain areas of 0.0 (Tribute, Vale of the Silent, Stain) to name just a few of the 60 regions. Pirate like behavior is capturing your pod and ransoming it for $. FWIW, try flying through an area that allows Neutrals and watch how fast Sovereignty changes. -M
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:49:00 - [44] I used to complain about NBSI constantly, then I joined a sovreign alliance. While I still have utter respect for the Providence alliances, I see very clearly the big picture under which the vast majority of territorial alliances have to operate. I don't grouch about it anymore. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
Balling2k9 Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.07.01 18:13:00 - [45] Originally by: Ekrid Originally by: Pwett /me wonders why there's this belief that it's okay to defend 0.0, but defending low-sec = pirate. maybe cause someone has already claimed that land, perhaps they are called the imperial factions? and Concord is a 3rd party police force that basically says "well smack you for shooting anyone in this space"? Ok well CVA is NRDS. But they lay claim to all of the Amarr Empire. So in any low sec if your are Red to the they shoot. So is CVA a pirate? If u live in Low sec and have POS in low sec then thats your home. Put all the fake ass RP sh9t aside..Home is home. Now i will admit NBSI in low sec is a bit yarrish. But the Idea of NBSI is a good one. TO me when i think about NRDS is kind like let the noob corps spies all in your home. Im not sure how well NRDS work but this is about so ill stya on point. NBSI works well. In 0.0 and in Low sec. I think NBSI should only really be enforced in choke pts to your 0.0. ---------------------------------------------------- After i skill up i shall open YarrBurger corp. Guess what we shall do?
flashsplat Gallente Free Collective The OSS	Posted - 2008.07.01 18:25:00 - [46] Who cares about getting called a pirate? Lol. Besides, if someone is calling you a pirate, it's becuase you killed them, so obviously you don't like them anyway... i don't see how their opinion matters? Pew Pew Baby.
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.07.01 18:43:00 - [47] Originally by: flashsplat Who cares about getting called a pirate? Lol. Besides, if someone is calling you a pirate, it's becuase you killed them, so obviously you don't like them anyway... i don't see how their opinion matters? Pew Pew Baby. Chances are it would be some Carebears, an Indy, or Anti-Pirates. Being labeled as a "Pirate", as you can imagine, would do horrors to their reputation. Some people also may not agree with the criminal lifestyle and feel its overrated and un-necessary too, and can PvP a lot better in other ways, and kill a lot more, while it would remain 100% legal - depends on the persons tastes and backgrounds. I personally think that piracy is at times overrated, and moreso a efficient means at making a ton of enemies you might not be able to afford to handle - and you can kill a lot more stuff, or just as much stuff, PvP'ing by other means. But, I wouldn't care if I was accused of being a pirate here and there because I'm not a member of some Industrial/Carebear Society or Anti-Pirate Alliance. I have pirated before in low-sec, but not enough to get flamed badly for it, and/or have mercenary contracts out to have me dead; Perhaps I should set some sort of goal, for motivational purposes... . The only thing I like about piracy is that it's amazing to see how easily you can **** someone off, and seeing what lengths they may go through in effort to lash out in anger. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.01 19:09:00 - [48] Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: Danton Marcellus I'd consider anyone operating under NBSI and doing roaming gangs well out of their claimed space a pirate. Personally, I'd call them a sovreign fleet on an operation, but that's just me. Call them what you will, I'm just happy who I can set red with good cause and still hold the high road. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
ATARI BABY Lords Of Guile	Posted - 2008.07.01 19:21:00 - [49] Edited by: ATARI BABY on 01/07/2008 19:22:36 Edited by: ATARI BABY on 01/07/2008 19:21:17 sometimes i just want to blow someones ships. diving in lowsec or 0.0 and using nbsi. im not pirate coz im not ransoming. only pirates are ransoming. and im just shooting for fun. if you are in war ship you are a target for me. i dont shot haulers or miners or 1-2 month old nubs. maybe that is the difference between pirates and kill freaks.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.01 19:22:00 - [50] Originally by: ATARI BABY sometimes i just want to blow someones ships. diving in lowsec of 0.0 and using nbsi. im not pirate coz im not ransoming. only pirates are ransoming. and im just shppting for fun. if you are in war ship you are a target for me. i dont shot haulers or miners or 1-2 month old nubs. maybe that is the difference between pirates and kill freaks. That's just you, we run a modified NRDS, everyone in an NPC corporation dies, noob or otherwise, sign up for a real corporation or stay inside. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Absolom Hues Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:19:00 - [51] Edited by: Absolom Hues on 01/07/2008 20:20:34 Originally by: ATARI BABY sometimes i just want to blow someones ships. diving in lowsec or 0.0 and using nbsi. im not pirate coz im not ransoming. only pirates are ransoming. and im just shooting for fun. So a pirate is defined as someone who ransoms? Question 1: After you destroy thier ship, do you loot it? Question 2: If one can shoot anyone that is not blue.... how is this different than a pirate? ___ Serving the Gallente Federation... one Caldari ship at a time.
Ferocious FeAr THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:27:00 - [52] NBSI = blue to corporations/alliances = boring eve experience = Don't hate me, learn to love me
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:29:00 - [53] Edited by: Amastat on 01/07/2008 20:32:39 Edited by: Amastat on 01/07/2008 20:31:27 Because you don't ransom in no way means your not a pirate... Most pirates only ransom when they know they will get paid, and doesn't bother with a ship/target when they know they won't pay up enough ISK - so you just kill them and loot whatever drops. Casual pirates who don't really know the ransom system very well just blow up anything that moves - that's what I do. In my eyes your taking more risks and could be in a trap when ransoming, in those few seconds you open a convo window and wait for a payment, you could be jumped by the victims backup. Better off using those few seconds to kill him and get out and find a new target. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu
HitMeUp Ingame THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:47:00 - [54] all of the big boys and girls that play in 0.0 are NBSI without exception.
Furb Killer Gallente USC Militia	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:50:00 - [55] *pushes CVA out of 0.0, since they arent nbsi they dont belong there apparently There are like 10 pirates left that ransom, 99% of the pirates just shoot you. Of those 10 pirates 9 will blow you up after you paid the ransom. Result, basicly no one in his right mind pays ransom, and the 1 pirate that didnt blow you up after ransom sees that it is futile and also stops asking ransom. Summarized: Hardly any pirate asks ransom, most who do ask ransom will blow you up anyway.
Ferocious FeAr THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.07.01 21:47:00 - [56] Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 01/07/2008 21:47:14 Originally by: Furb Killer *pushes CVA out of 0.0, since they arent nbsi they dont belong there apparently There are like 10 pirates left that ransom, 99% of the pirates just shoot you. Of those 10 pirates 9 will blow you up after you paid the ransom. Result, basicly no one in his right mind pays ransom, and the 1 pirate that didnt blow you up after ransom sees that it is futile and also stops asking ransom. Summarized: Hardly any pirate asks ransom, most who do ask ransom will blow you up anyway. We ransom, however, we don't do it often since most of us are self-sufficient and aren't the role playing type. Don't hate me, learn to love me
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.07.01 21:54:00 - [57] If someone comes past me in my system and he isnt blue I shoot him and loot his wreck. If someone comes past a NBSI alliance drone who isnt blue, he shoots him and loots his wreck. Yet im the nasty ebil griefer pirate. SKUNK
MOCC3 Labteck Corporation LTD.	Posted - 2008.07.01 23:57:00 - [58] Edited by: MOCC3 on 01/07/2008 23:58:49 Originally by: ATARI BABY Edited by: ATARI BABY on 01/07/2008 19:22:36 Edited by: ATARI BABY on 01/07/2008 19:21:17 sometimes i just want to blow someones ships. diving in lowsec or 0.0 and using nbsi. im not pirate coz im not ransoming. only pirates are ransoming. and im just shooting for fun. if you are in war ship you are a target for me. i dont shot haulers or miners or 1-2 month old nubs. maybe that is the difference between pirates and kill freaks. I agree i have never asked a ransom.. all i ask for is a pod and a corps. Hell i dont even loot wrecks. I cloak and pray they come back for there wreck. Wow this is a cool little thread very little smack and not a troll yet ( i screwed the thread right there) Im glad to see EVE people can come out and talk like this.,.. Now 100% yarr free. Why are you called a pirate if u fly under NBSI?
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.02 00:34:00 - [59] As a number of ppl have already pointed out, this is a veiled attack on CVA policy in Providence Basically, we operate innocent till proven guilty, rather than the other way round.
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.02 00:36:00 - [60] Originally by: Ferocious FeAr Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 01/07/2008 21:47:14 Originally by: Furb Killer *pushes CVA out of 0.0, since they arent nbsi they dont belong there apparently There are like 10 pirates left that ransom, 99% of the pirates just shoot you. Of those 10 pirates 9 will blow you up after you paid the ransom. Result, basicly no one in his right mind pays ransom, and the 1 pirate that didnt blow you up after ransom sees that it is futile and also stops asking ransom. Summarized: Hardly any pirate asks ransom, most who do ask ransom will blow you up anyway. We ransom, however, we don't do it often since most of us are self-sufficient and aren't the role playing type. Also paying ransom as well as demanding one is against official CVA policy and will get you in trouble if you do it

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