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Green Cobra
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Posted - 2008.06.30 21:51:00 -
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Was wondering if it might be time to do a serius atempt to pop the blody "titan" in Luminaire? Last time was a fest for jackasses.. 
Resists on the thing is rediculess high so 200 ships or so whould help. Ideas? |

Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2008.06.30 21:56:00 -
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its a LCO, not a true Titan, so I doubt if any amount of firepower can truly break it.
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Xanduz
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:02:00 -
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As you can hurt it even if little it is possible to pop it. During the last atempt it got armour damage. |

Feng Schui
Minmatar Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:03:00 -
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The question is.. will it do a logoffski once it gets into structure? 
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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soldieroffortune 258
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 30/06/2008 22:04:48
Originally by: Xanduz As you can hurt it even if little it is possible to pop it. During the last atempt it got armour damage.
would love to see a video, i went there like the day FW started because i read about it on the news, and there were MORE than 200 people all shooting the damn thing, like 1/10 of 1/100th of its shields were gone, lol
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith its a LCO, not a true Titan, so I doubt if any amount of firepower can truly break it.
Actually, the devs (or ISD or whoever was "supporting" the event) made a point in specifying that you COULD kill it, if only you get enough firepower to bear on it (as it has an insane tank).
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 22:12:59 It would take the entirety of Goonfleets BS pilots, cloned 2, 3, or maybe 6 times over, to dish out enough firepower to kill it. It's not invincible, but it has 95% resists - basically 4% less resists then GM ships.
In a way, at present, it is impossible to pop - because the ability to pop it would probably require every single player, at primetime, in their highest damage dealers, firing at the same time for maybe several hours straight. Luminare node would crash before that happened. |

Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 22:15:05
Originally by: Amastat It would take the entirety of Goonfleets BS pilots, cloned 2, 3, or maybe 6 times over, to dish out enough firepower to kill it. It's not invincible, but it has 95% resists - basically 4% less resists then GM ships.
In a way, at present, it is impossible to pop - because the ability to pop it would probably require every single player, at primetime, in their highest damage dealers, firing at the same time for maybe several hours straight. Luminare node would crash before that happened.
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith its a LCO, not a true Titan, so I doubt if any amount of firepower can truly break it.
Actually, the devs (or ISD or whoever was "supporting" the event) made a point in specifying that you COULD kill it, if only you get enough firepower to bear on it (as it has an insane tank).
^^^ This
It would take probably take all the firepower used in the Delve Invasion campaign a few months ago, stretched over all those months, in this one moment. |

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:17:00 -
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Imagine the swarm of loot grabbers around the wreck as it enters 5% structure
SKUNK
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Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith its a LCO, not a true Titan, so I doubt if any amount of firepower can truly break it.
Actually, the devs (or ISD or whoever was "supporting" the event) made a point in specifying that you COULD kill it, if only you get enough firepower to bear on it (as it has an insane tank).
Then I stand corrected (actually I'm flailing on the floor screaming NO NO NO NO IM ALWAYS RIGHT DAMMIT RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE)
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Green Cobra
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 22:15:05
Originally by: Amastat It would take the entirety of Goonfleets BS pilots, cloned 2, 3, or maybe 6 times over, to dish out enough firepower to kill it. It's not invincible, but it has 95% resists - basically 4% less resists then GM ships.
In a way, at present, it is impossible to pop - because the ability to pop it would probably require every single player, at primetime, in their highest damage dealers, firing at the same time for maybe several hours straight. Luminare node would crash before that happened.
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith its a LCO, not a true Titan, so I doubt if any amount of firepower can truly break it.
Actually, the devs (or ISD or whoever was "supporting" the event) made a point in specifying that you COULD kill it, if only you get enough firepower to bear on it (as it has an insane tank).
^^^ This
It would take probably take all the firepower used in the Delve Invasion campaign a few months ago, stretched over all those months, in this one moment.
I supose it whould take alot of capsulers, but it whould be epic if it was done. |

Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:19:00 -
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It would be cool. Although the lag would be horrendous.
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 22:24:41 Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 22:24:17 Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 22:22:36 Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 22:21:23
Originally by: Green Cobra
Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 22:15:05
Originally by: Amastat It would take the entirety of Goonfleets BS pilots, cloned 2, 3, or maybe 6 times over, to dish out enough firepower to kill it. It's not invincible, but it has 95% resists - basically 4% less resists then GM ships.
In a way, at present, it is impossible to pop - because the ability to pop it would probably require every single player, at primetime, in their highest damage dealers, firing at the same time for maybe several hours straight. Luminare node would crash before that happened.
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith its a LCO, not a true Titan, so I doubt if any amount of firepower can truly break it.
Actually, the devs (or ISD or whoever was "supporting" the event) made a point in specifying that you COULD kill it, if only you get enough firepower to bear on it (as it has an insane tank).
^^^ This
It would take probably take all the firepower used in the Delve Invasion campaign a few months ago, stretched over all those months, in this one moment.
I supose it whould take alot of capsulers, but it whould be epic if it was done.
If the node didn't crash before the fleet could even jump in - yea. On the release of Empyrean Age, I was there, with like 200 other people, attacking it. We got the shields down by like one slither of the bar, and the armor somehow got taken down to one slither too. In fact, i have a screenie of it.
And yea, my drake setup might be LoL. I fitted it that way for highest resists and highest HP I could, because I didn't know if the Titan was able to DD or not before I flew there - so I fitted so I could tank it, and figured that DPS tank would be worthless with the other 200 people there already fighting the NPC's.
And you can't see anything on the overview because I disabled that and all the brackets to reduce the lag as you can imagine.
Another Screenie.
The damage as you can see is, holy crap??? Whatever missile type I used, it did that same amount of damage, which came out to a 95% shield resistance on all bands. ____________________
"All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu |

Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2008.06.30 22:36:00 -
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Somebodys trying to pop it right now in fact. Only the titan lef, and no fleet. |

ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:07:00 -
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I call bull****. I was there at empyrian age release, watching that titan getting pounded for hours. Nothing at all happened to the HP bar.
Check local count in screen below: 333 ppl.. 300 of them were in grid shooting at it.
Titan pic from Empyrian Age release |

Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 30/06/2008 23:09:36 Well, that Cobra guy shot down the entire fleet there, only titan left. I tried to steal his tag apparently and he balsted me. (I am sorry Cobra, I only though you wanted teh Admiral ones :P)
Edit: he is there in BS |

Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 23:11:16 Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 23:11:09
Originally by: ApaKaka I call bull****. I was there at empyrian age release, watching that titan getting pounded for hours. Nothing at all happened to the HP bar.
Check local count in screen below: 333 ppl.. 300 of them were in grid shooting at it.
Titan pic from Empyrian Age release
If you looked at my pics you will see the HP bar did go down.. though not by much obviously.
Your pic also shows the hp bar has those two red slithers too - even though the TITAN-EDITED - er, I mean even though the pic is edited.
The dev's also hinted it can be killed - but they of course did not elaborate on how hard it is to kill.  |

ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 23:11:16 If you looked at my pics you will see the HP bar did go down.. though not by much obviously.
Your pic also shows the hp bar has those two red slithers too - even though the TITAN-EDITED - er, I mean even though the pic is edited.
The dev's also hinted it can be killed - but they of course did not elaborate on how hard it is to kill. 
Heh, 'course I edited it. I removed name and chat-channels because those are nobodies business but mine 
But I'm more interested in where you say the dev's hinted at it being killable? Where did they do that - Linky? |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:14:00 -
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Gogo 200 x gankageddon fleet !
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: ApaKaka
Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 23:11:16 If you looked at my pics you will see the HP bar did go down.. though not by much obviously.
Your pic also shows the hp bar has those two red slithers too - even though the TITAN-EDITED - er, I mean even though the pic is edited.
The dev's also hinted it can be killed - but they of course did not elaborate on how hard it is to kill. 
Heh, 'course I edited it. I removed name and chat-channels because those are nobodies business but mine 
But I'm more interested in where you say the dev's hinted at it being killable? Where did they do that - Linky?
Akita T said that earlier and I was there when they said that - but they said it in local chat when this happened. I didn't screen that though - sorry, but lots of people will tell you the same thing, so that should be enough. |

ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Amastat
Akita T said that earlier and I was there when they said that - but they said it in local chat when this happened. I didn't screen that though - sorry, but lots of people will tell you the same thing, so that should be enough.
I don't doubt your word for it. Though I doubt the functionality being there. It's not killable by any standard from what I saw. And dev's would be idiots if they thought that you could cram in 10x those numbers in one system in Eve.
So, either the titan is bugged and just not dying when it should, or they were talking about the fluff that spawns around it - which is indeed killable.
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 23:20:37 Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 23:19:10
I dug up the chat logs real quick.
Originally by: Local_20080610_214250.txt [ 2008.06.10 23:32:17 ] Isilathur Enthordam > jesus christ [ 2008.06.10 23:32:17 ] Sorom Ydde > damn caldari...we should have nuked caldari prime the first time they ran away [ 2008.06.10 23:32:20 ] Spazz21 > maybe the gallente will attack the amarr system [ 2008.06.10 23:32:26 ] CCP Whisper > The titan can take damage. That much I can confirm... [ 2008.06.10 23:32:27 ] Silvershell Prime > GOONFLEET CANT ATTACK IT YOU IDIOTS [ 2008.06.10 23:32:29 ] Donatien de'Sade > General, it took damage hours ago with over 400 hitting it, it is the same now [ 2008.06.10 23:32:33 ] champy3 > vous pensser vraimen pouvoir le shooter comme ca
They didn't technically say it was invincible - however CCP did say it can take damage, which would mean it isn't. In order for something to be truly invincible, invulnerable, in EVE, it has to be immune to damage of any sort - however that dosn't mean it's incredibly difficult to kill, and would require a massive force to even have any hope of killing it.
I believe it is in theory killable - at least the shields and armor appear to be, it would just take a insane amount of force to achieve it. I think the Dev's only put it there for the storyline of Empyrean Age, and they enjoyed watching everything trying to kill it and got a kick out of it - I sure did.
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"All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu |

Green Cobra
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 30/06/2008 23:09:36 Well, that Cobra guy shot down the entire fleet there, only titan left. I tried to steal his tag apparently and he balsted me. (I am sorry Cobra, I only though you wanted teh Admiral ones :P)
Edit: he is there in BS
Well it wasn't me but the dude in the CNR. I'll pass it on. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/06/2008 23:22:37
Wasn't there at the time to see it for myself but... this from Luminaire local: [ 2008.06.11 01:01:50 ] Altus Morningstar > John ... GMs said its killable ... just need a lot of firepower Ask him maybe ? _
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: ApaKaka on 30/06/2008 23:21:53
Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 23:19:10
I dug up the chat logs real quick.
Originally by: Local_20080610_214250.txt [ 2008.06.10 23:32:17 ] Isilathur Enthordam > jesus christ [ 2008.06.10 23:32:17 ] Sorom Ydde > damn caldari...we should have nuked caldari prime the first time they ran away [ 2008.06.10 23:32:20 ] Spazz21 > maybe the gallente will attack the amarr system [ 2008.06.10 23:32:26 ] CCP Whisper > The titan can take damage. That much I can confirm... [ 2008.06.10 23:32:27 ] Silvershell Prime > GOONFLEET CANT ATTACK IT YOU IDIOTS [ 2008.06.10 23:32:29 ] Donatien de'Sade > General, it took damage hours ago with over 400 hitting it, it is the same now [ 2008.06.10 23:32:33 ] champy3 > vous pensser vraimen pouvoir le shooter comme ca
They didn't technically say it was invincible - however CCP did say it can take damage, which would mean it isn't. In order for something to be truly invincible, invulnerable, in EVE, it has to be immune to damage of any sort - however that dosn't mean it's incredibly difficult to kill, and would require a massive force to even have any hope of killing it.
Not really. What he's saying is "It is possible to apply damage to it.". What I read between the lines is "It is not killable, though"
Otherwise the GM would have used that wording. "It is killable"
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 23:22:17 Double post - forum lag. ____________________
"All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu |

Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: ApaKaka But I'm more interested in where you say the dev's hinted at it being killable? Where did they do that - Linky?
Wasn't there at the time to see it for myself but... this from Luminaire local: [ 2008.06.11 01:01:50 ] Altus Morningstar > John ... GMs said its killable ... just need a lot of firepower
Ask him ? 
Ah - I wasn't there when that happened, but yea - that's basically everything that has been said here, the short version. He may of been referring to what Whisper said though. ____________________
"All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu |

Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: ApaKaka Edited by: ApaKaka on 30/06/2008 23:21:53
Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 30/06/2008 23:19:10
I dug up the chat logs real quick.
Originally by: Local_20080610_214250.txt [ 2008.06.10 23:32:17 ] Isilathur Enthordam > jesus christ [ 2008.06.10 23:32:17 ] Sorom Ydde > damn caldari...we should have nuked caldari prime the first time they ran away [ 2008.06.10 23:32:20 ] Spazz21 > maybe the gallente will attack the amarr system [ 2008.06.10 23:32:26 ] CCP Whisper > The titan can take damage. That much I can confirm... [ 2008.06.10 23:32:27 ] Silvershell Prime > GOONFLEET CANT ATTACK IT YOU IDIOTS [ 2008.06.10 23:32:29 ] Donatien de'Sade > General, it took damage hours ago with over 400 hitting it, it is the same now [ 2008.06.10 23:32:33 ] champy3 > vous pensser vraimen pouvoir le shooter comme ca
They didn't technically say it was invincible - however CCP did say it can take damage, which would mean it isn't. In order for something to be truly invincible, invulnerable, in EVE, it has to be immune to damage of any sort - however that dosn't mean it's incredibly difficult to kill, and would require a massive force to even have any hope of killing it.
Not really. What he's saying is "It is possible to apply damage to it.". What I read between the lines is "It is not killable, though"
Otherwise the GM would have used that wording. "It is killable"
If it takes damage, it can be killed, in my book. It isn't technically invincible or invulnerable if its not immune to damage. ____________________
"All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu |

ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Amastat
If it takes damage, it can be killed, in my book. It isn't technically invincible or invulnerable if its not immune to damage.
Well, not according to CCP standards. I've shot at plex-crap that both takes 0.0 damage, and stuff that takes damage but never loses HP.
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Terminus adacai
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.06.30 23:28:00 -
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I hear that CCP has filled it with loot... There are some new modules inside ;)
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