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Neener
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Posted - 2008.07.01 05:59:00 -
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Edited by: Neener on 01/07/2008 06:02:07
Simply add bunch of good empire lv4 agents in the game to spread out the mission runner population.
If CCP doesnt know what qualifies as a good agent:
-Right Division (surveillance, intelligence, etc with 90%+ kill missions)
-0.5 or 0.6 sec system (lower the sec, higher the reward)
-no low sec systems (0.4 or below) next to it. (nobody in their right mind will jump mission fitted ship into low sec system, so dont bother adding agents near lowsec systems)
-lv4 high quality (L4 Q16+)
Currently selection is very very limited and it shows (hundreds of pilots flogging into same systems and lag is horrible).
Theres currently only _one_ really good empire agent in the game:
- Eratsaka Ogyonin, Corporate Police Force, Lv IV, Quality 18
- Faction: Caldari (surprise! :))
- Division: Surveillance
- System Sec 0.5, no low sec systems nearby.
EDIT: by 'bunch of new agents' i mean lots of them. More good agents, thinner the mission runner population per system -> better game experience.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
USC Militia
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Posted - 2008.07.01 07:20:00 -
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Dynamic agent quality would be much better, more missions handed out by an agent = lower quality.
Or just stop going to the mission hubs and you dont have a problem  |
Neener
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Posted - 2008.07.01 07:43:00 -
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2 ways to solve the problem:
Easy way: add new agents to spread out the population
Hard and inconvenient way: invent some dynamic system which would be huge hassle for players, devs and servers (more system load for calculating hundreds of agents dynamically)
Wonder which one is better :p
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ollobrains2
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Posted - 2008.07.01 09:58:00 -
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move all the level 3s to .5 and .6 and move all the level 4s to low sec problem solved |
Neener
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Posted - 2008.07.01 10:49:00 -
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 Originally by: ollobrains2
move all the level 3s to .5 and .6 and move all the level 4s to low sec problem solved
And what would that accomplish? Absolutely nothing (except make loads and loads of lv4 agents nobody would use).
More "nice" ideas please :p |
the thorn
Tres Viri
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Posted - 2008.07.01 11:10:00 -
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there are many good agents in many systems, use them or stfu. |
Rakaim
Gallente
Rising Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.02 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: the thorn
there are many good agents in many systems, use them or stfu.
Yeah that's actually true. I've ran into a bunch of Gallente agents that were worth it. Plus - low sec Lvl4 agents add an extra layer of tactics (watching Pvp rip apart Pve fittings) which make this wonderful game all the more intresting to play.
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the thorn
Tres Viri
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Posted - 2008.07.02 08:30:00 -
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actually, i meant good agents in highsec. i am using myself a l4q19 in a 0.6 (if i remember correctly), with 20-30 ppl in local.
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Neener
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Posted - 2008.07.02 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: the thorn
actually, i meant good agents in highsec. i am using myself a l4q19 in a 0.6 (if i remember correctly), with 20-30 ppl in local.
Division?
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the thorn
Tres Viri
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Posted - 2008.07.02 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: the thorn on 02/07/2008 12:41:10
administration
(which is fine for me, so i can autopilot while getting a coffee or something to eat)
there is a l4q20 kill agent in taru, but that one is a bit more crowded (60-100 ppl in local)
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2008.07.02 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Neener
2 ways to solve the problem:
Easy way: add new agents to spread out the population
Hard and inconvenient way: invent some dynamic system which would be huge hassle for players, devs and servers (more system load for calculating hundreds of agents dynamically)
Wonder which one is better :p
Adding more of your high quality, perfectly safe, hyper convenient agents just encourages even more people to get into hisec mission running, and would likely only push the problem back for a time. Dynamic would have a lot of long term benefits if implemented well, so I'd say that one's a lot better.
However, if you're just looking for simple, I'd suggest reducing even further the effect quality has on agents, and adding "Hazard Pay" bonuses for missions in or travelling through <.5. Danger-loving mission runners will try losec or near-losec agents; smart mission runners will continue to spread out; and dumb mission runners will continue to congregate in hubs, easing the load on everyone else, meanwhile continuing to think they're getting a good deal while being lagged to hell and continuing to provide targets for mission salvagers. It's win-win-win-win. ^2.
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Neener
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Posted - 2008.07.04 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tsanse Kinske
Adding more of your high quality, perfectly safe, hyper convenient agents just encourages even more people to get into hisec mission running, and would likely only push the problem back for a time. Dynamic would have a lot of long term benefits if implemented well, so I'd say that one's a lot better.
Nah. Agents are already there, so everyone who wants can already run missions.
Only problem currently is that mission hubs (motsu, irjunen, etc) are lagged to hell and back.
Dynamic system would be nothing more that plain annoyance for devs (wasting dev time for useless feature), players (constantly switching mission system because agent quality is not constant), and servers (keeping track of hundreds and hundreds of agents and adjusting their quality).
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However, if you're just looking for simple, I'd suggest reducing even further the effect quality has on agents, and adding "Hazard Pay" bonuses for missions in or travelling through <.5. Danger-loving mission runners will try losec or near-losec agents; smart mission runners will continue to spread out; and dumb mission runners will continue to congregate in hubs, easing the load on everyone else, meanwhile continuing to think they're getting a good deal while being lagged to hell and continuing to provide targets for mission salvagers. It's win-win-win-win. ^2.
I have bit of news for you: Missions are way to make cash for people (quite a lot of people run missions to pay their pvp bills for example). Missions are not in the game to provide more targets for pirates.
Mission fitted ships and lowsec just do not mix, so its pretty pointless to try to get people in lowsec in their mission ships (until they fix missions so that people dont have to use mission specific fits in them).
Every single time when theres mission related discussion in the forums, theres people in those threads yelling about getting mission runners into lowsec. It just does not work with current mission game mechanics. Period. So might aswell forget it.
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