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Angel Slides	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:26:00 - [1] After all this talk of suiciding, i was wondering what it would take to suicide a T1 hauler solo? And what about a T2 one?
Nocturnal Avenger Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:54:00 - [2] Just attack it in high-sec and concord will kill you. Mission complete :) Anyway - assume you have 10 seconds in 1.0 and 30 in 0.5. Up to you to deliver the damage before concord shows up. - Carebear Pirate -
Kirex Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:55:00 - [3] A high damage BC with a 1600mm plate and damage control in the lows for t1, never ganked a t2 hauler before.
Angel Slides	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:00:00 - [4] Originally by: Kirex A high damage BC with a 1600mm plate and damage control in the lows for t1, never ganked a t2 hauler before. I was told by smeone that it could be done relitively easily in a rax just no, this true?
Nexus Kinnon Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Angel Slides Originally by: Kirex A high damage BC with a 1600mm plate and damage control in the lows for t1, never ganked a t2 hauler before. I was told by smeone that it could be done relitively easily in a rax just no, this true? I couldn't do it with an omen, but you may have better luck with a rax.
Zirconium Blade Ass Pounding Space Monkeys	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:01:00 - [6] Use some maths, and let us know.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:31:00 - [7] Remember; Down the road, not across the street. What?
Cadde Gallente L.M.F.A.O	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:38:00 - [8] Edited by: Cadde on 01/07/2008 17:38:06 It's really simple: For 1.0 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 10) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) For 0.5 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 30) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) That is, if success is a positive number... You win! --------------- Opinions expressed are those of my own and does in NO WAY reflect the opinions of whatever corp/alliance i am currently part of.
Mika Meroko Minmatar Crayon Posting Inc	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:44:00 - [9] Originally by: Cadde Edited by: Cadde on 01/07/2008 17:38:06 It's really simple: For 1.0 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 10) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) For 0.5 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 30) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) That is, if success is a positive number... You win! roflmao
Pigbearman	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:55:00 - [10] Originally by: Cadde Edited by: Cadde on 01/07/2008 17:38:06 It's really simple: For 1.0 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 30) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) For 0.5 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 10) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) That is, if success is a positive number... You win! fixed! dps has to be higher in 1.0 to equal the succes in a 0.5 system
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.07.01 21:19:00 - [11] Originally by: Pigbearman Originally by: Cadde Edited by: Cadde on 01/07/2008 17:38:06 It's really simple: For 1.0 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 30) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) For 0.5 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 10) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) That is, if success is a positive number... You win! fixed! dps has to be higher in 1.0 to equal the succes in a 0.5 system Exactly, that's why it is the other way round, just as Cadde posted it.
Rhak Amharr Minmatar Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.07.01 21:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Pigbearman Originally by: Cadde Edited by: Cadde on 01/07/2008 17:38:06 It's really simple: For 1.0 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 30) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) For 0.5 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 10) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) That is, if success is a positive number... You win! fixed! dps has to be higher in 1.0 to equal the succes in a 0.5 system lol Of course, the other guy was correct. Put in 100 DPS and 2000 EHP and see if you can gank it in 0.5 and 1.0. Hint: You can gank it in 0.5, but not in 1.0.
Cadde Gallente L.M.F.A.O	Posted - 2008.07.01 21:32:00 - [13] Pfft... details, meatfails. At least you get the point. Enough damage = glorious deaths for both parties. --------------- Opinions expressed are those of my own and does in NO WAY reflect the opinions of whatever corp/alliance i am currently part of.
Petra Arkania Minmatar Ajo Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.07.01 22:14:00 - [14] Originally by: Pigbearman Originally by: Cadde Edited by: Cadde on 01/07/2008 17:38:06 It's really simple: For 1.0 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 30) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) For 0.5 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 10) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) That is, if success is a positive number... You win! fixed! dps has to be higher in 1.0 to equal the succes in a 0.5 system you didn't pass chemistry, did you?
Stab Wounds	Posted - 2008.07.01 23:33:00 - [15] Originally by: Cadde Edited by: Cadde on 01/07/2008 17:38:06 It's really simple: For 1.0 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 10) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) For 0.5 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 30) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) That is, if success is a positive number... You win! wow never passed elementary school math?
Fedor Emilianenko	Posted - 2008.07.05 21:46:00 - [16] If you get lucky, it can also be a very profitable 'profession' Ganked a hauler full of blueprints tonight, should pay for my eve forever :D
NateX The Movement	Posted - 2008.07.05 21:49:00 - [17] Originally by: Fedor Emilianenko If you get lucky, it can also be a very profitable 'profession' Ganked a hauler full of blueprints tonight, should pay for my eve forever :D link km ;)
Fedor Emilianenko	Posted - 2008.07.05 22:23:00 - [18] 2008.07.05 21:29:00 Victim: Hidden Corp: Celestial Horizon Corp. Alliance: Celestial Industrial Alliance Faction: NONE Destroyed: Iteron Mark V System: Hek Security: 0.5 Damage Taken: 2343 Involved parties: Name: Fedor Emilianenko (laid the final blow) Security: -4.1 Corp: Caldari Provisions Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Brutix Weapon: Heavy Neutron Blaster I Damage Done: 2343 Destroyed items: Gravimetric Sift Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Core Defence Field Purger I Blueprint (Cargo) Core Defence Charge Economizer I Blueprint (Cargo) Ogre I, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Serpentis Electrum Tag (Cargo) Armor Plates, Qty: 557 (Cargo) Praetor I Blueprint, Qty: 4 (Cargo) Core Defence Operational Solidifier I Blueprint (Cargo) Vespa I Blueprint, Qty: 13 (Cargo) Acolyte I, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Caldari Navy Captain Insignia II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Anti-Thermic Pump I Blueprint (Cargo) Nanobot Accelerator I Blueprint (Cargo) Conductive Polymer, Qty: 376 (Cargo) Warhead Flare Catalyst I Blueprint (Cargo) Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Blueprint (Cargo) Cargohold Optimization I, Qty: 3 Energy Collision Accelerator I Blueprint (Cargo) Valkyrie I Blueprint, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Smashed Trigger Unit, Qty: 2879 (Cargo) Hobgoblin I, Qty: 7 (Cargo) Hornet I, Qty: 9 (Cargo) Caldari Navy Captain Insignia I, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Blueprint (Cargo) Defective Current Pump, Qty: 381 (Cargo) Magnetometric Comb Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Malfunctioning Shield Emitter, Qty: 818 (Cargo) Infiltrator I Blueprint, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Memetic Algorithm Bank I Blueprint (Cargo) Fried Interface Circuit, Qty: 1451 (Cargo) Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Blueprint (Cargo) Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Blueprint (Cargo) Contaminated Lorentz Fluid, Qty: 721 (Cargo) Anti-Explosive Pump I Blueprint (Cargo) Burned Logic Circuit, Qty: 2826 (Cargo) Liquid Cooled Electronics I Blueprint (Cargo) Amarr Navy Major Insignia I, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Anti-Kinetic Pump I Blueprint (Cargo) Invulnerability Field II Wasp I Blueprint, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Berserker I Blueprint, Qty: 4 (Cargo) Powergrid Subroutine Maximizer I Blueprint (Cargo) Energy Burst Aerator I Blueprint (Cargo) Radar Quest Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Megacyte, Qty: 33 (Cargo) Radar Sift Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Cargohold Optimization I Blueprint (Cargo) Magnetometric Sift Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Gravimetric Comb Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Ladar Quest Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Mexallon, Qty: 25812 (Cargo) Amarr Navy Midshipman Insignia III, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Ladar Sift Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Anti-EM Pump I Blueprint (Cargo) Expanded Cargohold II, Qty: 2 Remote Repair Augmentor I Blueprint (Cargo) Core Defence Capacitor Sa***uard I Blueprint (Cargo) Hammerhead I Blueprint, Qty: 4 (Cargo) Energy Discharge Elutriation I Blueprint (Cargo) Bay Loading Accelerator I Blueprint (Cargo) Energy Ambit Extension I Blueprint (Cargo) Tangled Power Conduit, Qty: 755 (Cargo) Radar Pursuit Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Gravimetric Quest Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Ogre I Blueprint, Qty: 9 (Cargo) Pyerite, Qty: 85036 (Cargo)
Fedor Emilianenko	Posted - 2008.07.05 22:24:00 - [19] Dropped items: Broken Drone Transceiver, Qty: 3198 (Cargo) Ladar Pursuit Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Charred Micro Circuit, Qty: 5173 (Cargo) Ogre I, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Amarr Navy Colonel Insignia I (Cargo) Auxiliary Nano Pump I Blueprint (Cargo) Thruster Console, Qty: 1827 (Cargo) Praetor I Blueprint, Qty: 6 (Cargo) Core Defence Operational Solidifier I Blueprint (Cargo) Vespa I Blueprint, Qty: 8 (Cargo) Caldari Navy Commodore Insignia II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Valkyrie I Blueprint, Qty: 5 (Cargo) Trimark Armor Pump I Blueprint (Cargo) Hornet I (Cargo) Nocxium, Qty: 194 (Cargo) Ancillary Current Router I Blueprint (Cargo) Radar Comb Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Blueprint (Cargo) Gravimetric Pursuit Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Infiltrator I Blueprint (Cargo) Alloyed Tritanium Bar, Qty: 115 (Cargo) 10MN Afterburner I Scorched Telemetry Processor, Qty: 281 (Cargo) Ladar Comb Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Serpentis Silver Tag (Cargo) Melted Capacitor Console, Qty: 202 (Cargo) Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Blueprint (Cargo) Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I Blueprint, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Wasp I Blueprint, Qty: 5 (Cargo) Berserker I Blueprint, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Energy Locus Coordinator I Blueprint (Cargo) Tripped Power Circuit, Qty: 1086 (Cargo) Magnetometric Quest Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Tritanium, Qty: 152067 (Cargo) Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Blueprint (Cargo) Capacitor Control Circuit I Blueprint, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Semiconductor Memory Cell I Blueprint (Cargo) Energy Metastasis Adjuster I Blueprint (Cargo) Isogen, Qty: 1617 (Cargo) Medium Shield Booster II Serpentis Palladium Tag (Cargo) Ward Console, Qty: 167 (Cargo) Emission Scope Sharpener I Blueprint (Cargo) Egress Port Maximizer I Blueprint (Cargo) Zydrine, Qty: 45 (Cargo) Expanded Cargohold II, Qty: 3 Caldari Navy Captain Insignia V (Cargo) Hammerhead I Blueprint, Qty: 4 (Cargo) Salvage Tackle I Blueprint (Cargo) Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Blueprint (Cargo) Contaminated Nanite Compound, Qty: 444 (Cargo) Hammerhead I (Cargo) Core Defence Field Extender I Blueprint (Cargo) Magnetometric Pursuit Probe Blueprint (Cargo) Damaged Artificial Neural Network, Qty: 132 (Cargo) Ogre I Blueprint, Qty: 5 (Cargo) Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I Blueprint (Cargo) Small Standard Container (Cargo) Atron Blueprint, Qty: 3 (In Container) Condor Blueprint, Qty: 3 Hoarder Blueprint, Qty: 11 Breacher Blueprint, Qty: 43 Cormorant Blueprint, Qty: 4 Vexor Blueprint, Qty: 3 Scythe Blueprint, Qty: 7 Vigil Blueprint, Qty: 28 Maulus Blueprint, Qty: 6 Prophecy Blueprint, Qty: 2 Amarr Shuttle Blueprint, Qty: 2 Griffin Blueprint, Qty: 7 Mammoth Blueprint Burst Blueprint, Qty: 4 Caldari Shuttle Blueprint, Qty: 18 Navitas Blueprint Thorax Blueprint, Qty: 9 Gallente Shuttle Blueprint, Qty: 3 Blackbird Blueprint, Qty: 14 Executioner Blueprint, Qty: 5 Typhoon Blueprint, Qty: 2 Bestower Blueprint, Qty: 4 Raven Blueprint, Qty: 2 Omen Blueprint Osprey Blueprint, Qty: 17 Rifter Blueprint, Qty: 23 Heron Blueprint, Qty: 3 Slasher Blueprint, Qty: 3 Celestis Blueprint, Qty: 2 Inquisitor Blueprint, Qty: 3 Dominix Blueprint Probe Blueprint, Qty: 9 Catalyst Blueprint, Qty: 3 Moa Blueprint, Qty: 33 Caracal Blueprint, Qty: 13 Stabber Blueprint, Qty: 10 Tristan Blueprint, Qty: 8 Scorpion Blueprint, Qty: 2 Rupture Blueprint, Qty: 8 Exequror Blueprint, Qty: 4 Tormentor Blueprint Badger Mark II Blueprint, Qty: 3 Sigil Blueprint Crucifier Blueprint, Qty: 3 Maller Blueprint, Qty: 5 Iteron Mark III Blueprint Kestrel Blueprint, Qty: 18 Megathron Blueprint Imicus Blueprint, Qty: 3 Minmatar Shuttle Blueprint, Qty: 3 Bantam Blueprint, Qty: 13 Punisher Blueprint, Qty: 10 Covetor Blueprint, Qty: 8 Thrasher Blueprint, Qty: 3 Incursus Blueprint, Qty: 22 Merlin Blueprint, Qty: 4 Ferox Blueprint
Mozohl Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.05 23:06:00 - [20] Hong-man choi dropped that?
Fedor Emilianenko	Posted - 2008.07.05 23:09:00 - [21] Hehe :) Alot of the expensive stuff died though :(
Hesod Adee Militants of Xen	Posted - 2008.07.05 23:16:00 - [22] Originally by: Pigbearman Originally by: Cadde Edited by: Cadde on 01/07/2008 17:38:06 It's really simple: For 1.0 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 30) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) For 0.5 sec systems: success = ((your_DPS * 10) - target_EffectiveHitpoints) That is, if success is a positive number... You win! fixed! dps has to be higher in 1.0 to equal the succes in a 0.5 system The 10 and 30 values are the time you spend doing that dps. So your 'corrected' equations are saying that your ship will live longer, and therefore do more total damage, in a 1.0 system than in a 0.5 system.
Shigsy The Golden Goat	Posted - 2008.07.05 23:16:00 - [23] it'd be good if they were bpos tho
Fedor Emilianenko	Posted - 2008.07.06 00:53:00 - [24] Yeah :(
Noelle Fay State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.06 01:24:00 - [25] What's with everyone teaching new guys how to suicide... like we need any more -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The secret to success, whether it's women or money, is knowing when to quit. I oughta know: I'm divorced and broke.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.06 09:25:00 - [26] Originally by: Noelle Fay What's with everyone teaching new guys how to suicide... like we need any more there are only so many places it can be done, most of which it is already happening. so w/e, not that hard to figure out anyways
Napro Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.06 09:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Fedor Emilianenko Hehe :) Alot of the expensive stuff died though :( What? How much were those blueprints worth?
Fedor Emilianenko	Posted - 2008.07.06 10:50:00 - [28] Edited by: Fedor Emilianenko on 06/07/2008 10:51:03 Seems they were worth between a few hundred K and 2m each. Not Mega bucks really, but not too bad by my standards either.
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.06 11:04:00 - [29] Originally by: Shigsy it'd be good if they were bpos tho they must be.. as you cant STACK bpc ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Kiidra Happy Go Lucky Pirate Co.	Posted - 2008.07.06 11:39:00 - [30] Originally by: Riho Originally by: Shigsy it'd be good if they were bpos tho they must be.. as you cant STACK bpc It's in caps so it must be true

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