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Estrelita Nobunaga Mazard Industries 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:09:00 - [1] - Quote I've been playing for nearly 3 years, and have 4 accounts now I've lost between 50 and a hundred ships all together Yesterday this character qualified for a Mackinaw, so I fitted one for her and she went ice mining in Agal with a Mammoth for hauling. She didn't even finish a cycle before the Mackinaw was gone and the Mammoth was at 80% armor I guess I was lucky that Concord responded so quickly I'm not sure that I've ever been ganked before, but, for some reason, this bothered me more than any other ship loss that I can remember The other character involved was from 2005, and had a 2.1 Concord sec status. Probably had a lot of experience doing this kind of thing, because he/she/it was pretty slick There are parts of this game that I enjoy. PvP isn't one of them. Especially not this type So what options do I have? One week of kill rights. That's a big help for a miner. If I went looking for the ganker, what are the chances that I could catch up to him, and, if I did, I doubt that there would be a happy ending for me So I'm not sure I'm going to keep playing. It seems to me that the game has changed since I started playing, and that the type of player that it attracts is changing, too. That part I blame on CCP. I think they have more control over the type of player the game attracts than most people think. But, let's face it. They do have to make a profit in order to support Hilmar's grand schemes The question for me right now is: Do I want to try to keep playing the parts of the game that I like in spite of the quality of the other players As I said. I really don't know. I do know that losing 4 more accounts is not going to have any noticeable effect on CCP, and that what I say in this is not going to have any effect on the players that I object to This is the only public way that I have to express my dissatisfaction with the players and the trends I see. It's not the game. It's the players.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 982	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:13:00 - [2] - Quote sorry for your loss it's the same playerbase its been since the start be more aware and you won't get ganked in highly publicized interdiction ops also be glad it wasn't a hulk The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Lt Angus Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 59	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:14:00 - [3] - Quote You been lucky to avoid getting ganked until now but really the game has always been like this
Ana Vyr Vyral Technologies 173	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:14:00 - [4] - Quote CCP's in a bit of a bind in that if they now institute anti-ganking rules of any kind in an attempt to hold onto players like you, they'll lose subs in droves when all the sociopathic tear harvesters quit in disgust.
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 3421	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:15:00 - [5] - Quote Sounds like you probably need to dabble on how to kill other players. I hgihly recommend rolling an alt whos sole purpose is to kill other players. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Aiwha 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda 202	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:15:00 - [6] - Quote If you've just now been suicide ganked you've been playing this game correctly right up to that point. Regards, LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 175	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:15:00 - [7] - Quote Quit 3 months If you don't find anything else that you enjoy. Come back. It's usually 3 months when they hand out a 5 day return. Griefers want to put the run to us, CCP don't seem to have any desire to stop them. Play along.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2869	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:16:00 - [8] - Quote i'm sorry that your "end-game" is mining ice in a mackinaw "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012
Red Templar Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation 169	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:20:00 - [9] - Quote Maybe after 3 years you need to change profession? Mining? Seriously? For Love. For Peace. For Honor. For None of the Above. For Pony!
Andrea Griffin 181	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:23:00 - [10] - Quote Quote: So what options do I have? One week of kill rights. That's a big help for a miner. Stop playing the victim card. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.

Mr John22ta Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 3	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:24:00 - [11] - Quote Ana Vyr wrote: CCP's in a bit of a bind in that if they now institute anti-ganking rules of any kind in an attempt to hold onto players like you, they'll lose subs in droves when all the sociopathic tear harvesters quit in disgust. CCP has already introduced "anti-ganking" incentives in the removal of insurance for those that are killed by Concord. This is as far as they will go, as they both encourage and support these types of behaviors. The reason they support it is because it's part of what make's Eve Eve. CCP isn't "in a bind" because of this, if anything it's due to the "softening" of the game through things like PVE and Barbies in space. To the OP - It happens, deal with it and move on or don't and quit. This sort of thing happens daily, and just like in RL sometimes you get **** on. As a player of four years, I'm more than surprised this is the first time you've been affected by this. I'd say get over it and keep on trucking, one of the main points of this game is uncontrollable stuff happens, and how you learn, adapt and overcome to emerge a stronger player is what makes Eve so addicting. If you don't feel that way, this might not be the game for you. GL and remember it's just pixels, you can always come back from it.
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 3421	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:25:00 - [12] - Quote I mean seriously the quicker you learn how to stop being a victim the beter this game gets. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Sasha Azala Blood and Decay 87	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:25:00 - [13] - Quote EVE is not safe even in high-sec, but I'm sure you've heard that before. EVE is essentially a PvP game, you don't have to PvP in EVE but you're always a potential target. Type of player I don't think has changed that much, peoples attitudes have changed more I think. Especially with the anti-botting movement. Ice mining is one of those targeted professions so it's no real surprise you lost the ship. Although you don't mention if you were semi-afk or not. I used to mine semi-afk years ago, although I certainly not do that now, but I no longer mine anyway. You've lost over 50 ships already, yet this loss bothers you. Why is it so different to the others? A loss is a loss regardless how it happens.
Alaura Aquila 13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary 6	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:28:00 - [14] - Quote I guess you were in the wrong place and the wrong time, once I went to let the dog out while mining and came back to a fleet of flashing red Thrashers coming in on top of my Hulk. I remember trying to rush to my seat and activate my hardners, but I was too late. The irony was, I was sitting there the whole time ready to do that, and that one time I got up, was when they struck. Talk about bad luck. Here's the killmail: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10749118 Yes, I should have had buffer, prob would have saved me.
Seb Seba Polaris Distribution 7	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:28:00 - [15] - Quote Red Templar wrote: Maybe after 3 years you need to change profession? Mining? Seriously? It's fun how some of you believe that the game YOU play is the right one. I guess that's why it's so easy to tell who's a RL looser just by reading one sentence.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 982	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:29:00 - [16] - Quote anyone else find it highly ironic that the OP took the last name of one of Japan's greatest WARlords to shoot rocks for 3 years? The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Darth Tickles Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension 53	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:32:00 - [17] - Quote Estrelita Nobunaga wrote: There are parts of this game that I enjoy. PvP isn't one of them. Especially not this type Eve is PvP. That's why the ganking mechanic exists. Even in the safest place in the game, you are not 100% immune when you are undocked. Deal with it or find a game that you like better. Eve is a niche game, and doesn't have to be for everyone, nor is there anything "wrong" with someone who doesn't fit into that niche (though you're unlikely to be someone I'd like to have a beer with if you can't handle having your space pixels blown up).
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 368	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:34:00 - [18] - Quote Seb Seba wrote: Red Templar wrote: Maybe after 3 years you need to change profession? Mining? Seriously? It's fun how some of you believe that the game YOU play is the right one. I guess that's why it's so easy to tell who's a RL looser just by reading one sentence. I can't say it any better either than these 2 simple statements.... OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
Garnoo Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 12	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:36:00 - [19] - Quote can i get your stuff? People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back - this is EvE
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 3421	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:37:00 - [20] - Quote Morganta wrote: anyone else find it highly ironic that the OP took the last name of one of Japan's greatest WARlords to shoot rocks for 3 years? Would it be funnier if her name was sun'tzu? Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory

Indahmawar Fazmarai The I and F Taxation Trust 323	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:37:00 - [21] - Quote Nova Fox wrote: I mean seriously the quicker you learn how to stop being a victim the beter this game gets. Why, of course, in addition to have a PVP alt, she must train her miner alt to be as good as a PVP alt in case it gots kill rights on a hisec ganker... Very smart you are, sir. Very smart. EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents. EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á
Abyss Azizora Amarrian Warfactory 16	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:38:00 - [22] - Quote I must admit, it's rare to see someone go that long "without" being suicide ganked, especially a miner. Funny thing about the so-called interdiction is that the bots already adapted to use perma-run shield/armor transfers, and now use propper tanks, making them almost immune to removal via-suicide ganking. (And the ones they do lose to malestrom BS volleys are easily replaced.) And yet players still haven't. Edit: On a positive note, I hear word of transferable kill-rights for fixing much of the risk-free suicide ganking problem. Hell people may actually pay you for the ability to gank the gankers in the near future. That should offset much of the losses.
Ana Vyr Vyral Technologies 173	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:43:00 - [23] - Quote Mr John22ta wrote: Ana Vyr wrote: CCP's in a bit of a bind in that if they now institute anti-ganking rules of any kind in an attempt to hold onto players like you, they'll lose subs in droves when all the sociopathic tear harvesters quit in disgust. CCP has already introduced "anti-ganking" incentives in the removal of insurance for those that are killed by Concord. This is as far as they will go, as they both encourage and support these types of behaviors. The reason they support it is because it's part of what make's Eve Eve. CCP isn't "in a bind" because of this, if anything it's due to the "softening" of the game through things like PVE and Barbies in space. Yeah, those were some awesome anti-ganking incentives, LOL. Personally, I don't care a bit about how harsh the game is because that's what makes it EvE, so I completely agree with you there. But then CCP and the community needs to stop crying about sub numbers, because the game isn't going to grow mainstream with folks running around blowing up peoples assets for no reason other than to humiliate them and see if they'll cry. EvE will always be a niche game, and that suits me just fine. I bet CCP wouldn't agree though, as evidenced by their awkward attempts to make the game more appealing to non hard core PvPers with features like WiS. All I'm saying is that CCP can't have it both ways.
Hexus Draidin Intersteller Masons Wonder Kids 45	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:43:00 - [24] - Quote It's simple, really. Never undock a ship without expecting to lose it the moment you undock. Every time you undock , do your thing and dock again safely will be a pleasant surprise. You've been lucky to avoid suicide ganking for so long in EVE, but this is one of those lessons that you need to learn. Everything you have in EVE can and probably will be scammed, destroyed, or stolen from you.
TheBlueMonkey Natural Progression 86	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:48:00 - [25] - Quote Estrelita Nobunaga wrote: I've been playing for nearly 3 years, and have 4 accounts now I've lost between 50 and a hundred ships all together Yesterday this character qualified for a Mackinaw, so I fitted one for her and she went ice mining in Agal with a Mammoth for hauling. She didn't even finish a cycle before the Mackinaw was gone and the Mammoth was at 80% armor I guess I was lucky that Concord responded so quickly I'm not sure that I've ever been ganked before, but, for some reason, this bothered me more than any other ship loss that I can remember The other character involved was from 2005, and had a 2.1 Concord sec status. Probably had a lot of experience doing this kind of thing, because he/she/it was pretty slick There are parts of this game that I enjoy. PvP isn't one of them. Especially not this type So what options do I have? One week of kill rights. That's a big help for a miner. If I went looking for the ganker, what are the chances that I could catch up to him, and, if I did, I doubt that there would be a happy ending for me So I'm not sure I'm going to keep playing. It seems to me that the game has changed since I started playing, and that the type of player that it attracts is changing, too. That part I blame on CCP. I think they have more control over the type of player the game attracts than most people think. But, let's face it. They do have to make a profit in order to support Hilmar's grand schemes The question for me right now is: Do I want to try to keep playing the parts of the game that I like in spite of the quality of the other players As I said. I really don't know. I do know that losing 4 more accounts is not going to have any noticeable effect on CCP, and that what I say in this is not going to have any effect on the players that I object to This is the only public way that I have to express my dissatisfaction with the players and the trends I see. It's not the game. It's the players. Join a decent 0.0 alliance and mine in peace That's my constructive bit My less constructive post is HTFU
Darth Tickles Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension 53	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:50:00 - [26] - Quote Ana Vyr wrote: EvE will always be a niche game, and that suits me just fine. I bet CCP wouldn't agree though, as evidenced by their awkward attempts to make the game more appealing to non hard core PvPers with features like WiS. All I'm saying is that CCP can't have it both ways. This I agree with. However, I think there is a grey area alternative in that people can learn to like the niche aspect of Eve, given the right amount of time and progression structure. Some people love Eve and are natural customers, some people hate it and will never last more than 5 days, yet in the middle is a huge range of people that might grow to be loyal customers and dedicated players given the right set of experiences as they play the game initially. I think that`s where CCP needs to focus its efforts to expanding the playerbase. They`ve got a solid niche identity, they just need to learn to create an environment where people can go from having their hands held to enjoying the freedom of a harsh sandbox game. I think Eve is cutting edge, and that more and more games will take on some of the foundational characteristics that make Eve what it is. It`s just right now the vast majority of gamers are used to heavily structured and low-consequence games. However, I believe there is also a growing dissatisfaction with these games, it`s just people haven`t learned to identify that it`s this very handholding and excessive structure that makes these games boring and ultimately unsatisfying.
Lyron-Baktos Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle 56	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:50:00 - [27] - Quote there is nothing wrong with being a 100% miner as long as you enjoy it so don't listen to people who try to tell you otherwise. Regarding your gank, try to figure out what you did wrong or if you did nothing wrong, figure out what you can do to make yourself safer. pay more attention to local/scanner, add more gank/speed to your ships to help you escape quicker, don't mine in the same spot too long etc etc I will say I don't agree with suicide ganking. takes the "realness" out of it On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun
Doddy Excidium. Executive Outcomes 25	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:52:00 - [28] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Nova Fox wrote: I mean seriously the quicker you learn how to stop being a victim the beter this game gets. Why, of course, in addition to have a PVP alt, she must train her miner alt to be as good as a PVP alt in case it gots kill rights on a hisec ganker... Very smart you are, sir. Very smart. It takes like 5 days to make a miner pvp capable. Anyway kill rights (which last much longer than a week btw) are not to be wasted on a pvp ship, you wait for him to go fly past in a hauler full of goodies.
THE L0CK Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 46	Posted - 2012.03.14 14:52:00 - [29] - Quote Garnoo wrote: can i get your stuff? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VcppiFP4sc Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Rico Minali Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 346	Posted - 2012.03.14 15:03:00 - [30] - Quote Estrelita Nobunaga wrote: I've been playing for nearly 3 years, and have 4 accounts now The other character involved was from 2005, and had a 2.1 Concord sec status. Probably had a lot of experience doing this kind of thing, because he/she/it was pretty slick It seems to me that the game has changed since I started playing, and that the type of player that it attracts is changing, too. That part I blame on CCP. I think they have more control over the type of player the game attracts than most people think. . Now I dont want to look like im trolling you because I am not. So you have been playing for 3 years, the guy who killed you has been playing for 7 years, you are cross about the type of people the game attracts now. The guy who killed you is over twice your age, so does that mean you are the type of person teh game attracts now and he was the original type? Am I reading this wrong? You have been playing 3 years and only ganked once, and now. Thats actually pretty good. Ganking miners has been going on since miners have existed, this is no new thing, and to be honest I dont think it is any more prolific now than it was when you started 3 years ago if you take out the ice interdiction (which was a valid in game tactic that was used by a major power to get a specific result). So really, I think you are somehow redirecting your real issues with eve onto this one small event. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.



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