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Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:01:00 - [1] In an attempt to track the status of an entire CorpÆs BP inventory, with current levels of research, it came to my attention that there was nothing out there that that allowed multiple people to collaborate on such an inventory. Thus I have developed ôSunicroÆs Ultimate BP Inventory. The concept is simple, have a spreadsheet with as much information readily available and share it. I use Google Docs for my Corp, but any similar service will work. Give write access to all Researchers and read access to anyone else that may need to reference the current list. Maintain the list as research is done and it is always up to date. Below is information on how I use my list and some explanation on various futures. Basic Procedures 1.When installing a job, log the new values for the BP. I do this at install because someone may deliver your job on you, and will you remember what you installed, probably not. 2.Reference list when BP shopping to prevent purchasing doubles. 3.Keep list up to date with who owns which BP, very important if you have multiple copies with various levels of research. Want to return what belongs to whom if needed. Features/explanation Column A:Blueprint (Type of Rig, Drone, Ship in parenthesis). Column B:Owned -Enter name of owner. I bold it once BP fully researched. Column C:Current ME Column D:Optimal ME - Perfect ME(Optimal ME), ie Acolyte I 84(2) Column E:Current PE Column F:Perfect PE Column G-H:T2 Item 1/2 - If there is a T2 Item available, Name (Type) Column I-M:Invention items and how many needed to make the T2. Column N-O:If anything is needed to copy the item and how many. Simple, no macroÆs, no programs to install and shareable at any level required. I would like to thank Eve-Guides.com for being such a great reference to get this project started. Also I referenced EVE ONLINE - INVENTION HELPER which greatly increased the speed of which I completed the invention reference information. I hope you find the spreadsheet useful. Disclaimer: As most of this was created out of game, there may be extra or missing BPÆs from this list, let me know if you see any errors. I hope you find this of use and for those that can't access google docs, I have a zip version available if someone can attach it to this post or host it somewhere. Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
Arous Drephius Alpha Research Group	Posted - 2008.07.03 21:09:00 - [2] That, good sir, is win.
Flybye	Posted - 2008.07.03 21:29:00 - [3] Now that's kinky. I might have to come up with something similar for my corp, too.
Marara Kovacs	Posted - 2008.07.06 19:49:00 - [4] excelent post. How do you work out you optimal ME's? you have all the frigates with either 1 or 0 exept the inquisitor at 34? is that a mistake?
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.07.07 00:20:00 - [5] Arous - Thanks for the glowing remark, makes all the work I put in feel worthwhile. Flybye - Why make one, that why I posted this, use it, just have to save your own copy. Marara - The ME comes from Eve-guides.com, the Inquisitor was wrong, that info was from the next line down, it is now corrected. Thanks for pointing it out. If anyone is interested in a copy of the file that doesn't have a google account, just let me know and I can email it to you. Or if someone can recommend a great (free) file hosting spot, I will put it up and link to there. Keep the reviews coming , next project is a skill checker for modules. Also hope to get into Research for Hire, have to pay the bills. Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
Marara Kovacs	Posted - 2008.07.07 09:19:00 - [6] How do I take your spreadsheet and make my own out of it? Ive never used google docs before.
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.07.07 14:09:00 - [7] To make the document your own, you have two options once you are in my document (from link). 1. Click "File" (top left), "Copy Spreadsheet". This will allow you to make a Google Doc version of the file with the name you designate. Then you would click "Share" to invite other people you wish to see or edit the inventory. Publish makes it available to everyone with the permissions you set. 2. Click "File" (top left), "Export". Pick your preferred format and save it to your desktop. Now you have a copy that only you can use, or upload to another type of file collaboration website. Any other questions, just let me know. And if anyone has suggestions for improvements, let me know also. Thanks Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.07.07 14:23:00 - [8] Edited by: RaTTuS on 07/07/2008 14:31:57 you cannot do file operations on a none editable speadsheet, either make it wold editable [will probably get destroyed], or export and put the export on somewhere so people can upload it themselves edit ... aha you may find a "Edit this page" at the bottom -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve, USERPROFILE
Hattur Gallente Viktor Research Incoporated	Posted - 2008.07.07 14:27:00 - [9] Thks for sharing :)
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.07.07 14:37:00 - [10] Laser Sensor Cluster [and capital] should be named Ladar* now -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve, USERPROFILE
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.07.07 15:03:00 - [11] Originally by: RaTTuS Laser Sensor Cluster [and capital] should be named Ladar* now Fixed, thanks for pointing it out. Also, as to your previous comment. I shared the Master version in view only, everyone is free to save a copy of it and use as they chose. And as previously stated, a recommendation of where it can be uploaded for easier access has been requested. Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:38:00 - [12] I have uploaded a copy of the file to EVE Files for download for those that can't access Google Docs. Original post also updated with the link. Eve Files Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
MailDeadDrop Archon Industries	Posted - 2008.07.08 16:07:00 - [13] Can you eloborate on how the "optimal" ME level was defined? I glanced at eve-guides.com but was unable to determine the definition for it. Errata: Cap Booster 800 optimal ME value has a typo; last "0" should be ")" Capital Remote Armor Repair System I optimal ME value has a typo; last "0" should be ")" Electrolytic Capacitor Unit (Cap Construction) optimal ME value has a typo; last "0" should be ")" Garde I (Sentry Drone) optimal ME value has a typo; "9" should be "(" Magpulse Thruster (Ship Construction) optimal ME value has a typo; "9" should be "(" Shield Flux Coil I optimal ME value has a typo; last "0" should be ")" Thrasher (Destroyer)(M) optimal ME value has an extraneous space character Ashimmu (Cruiser) needs faction indicator "(A)" Burst (Frigate(M) missing close parenthesis; should be "Burst (Frigate)(M)" Condor (F) needs ship class and faction indicators; should be "Condor (Frigate)(C)" Cormorant (D) needs ship class and faction indicators; should be "Cormorant (Destroyer)(C)" Kestrel needs ship class and faction indicators; should be "Kestrel (Frigate)(C)" Megathron (Battelship)(G) has a typo; should be "Megathron (Battleship)(G)" Procurer (Mining Barge(OER) has 2 typos; should be "Procurer (Mining Barge)(ORE)" Punisher needs ship class and faction indicators; should be "Punisher (Frigate)(A)" Sigil (Industrial) needs faction indicator "(A)" Slasher (Frigate) needs faction indicator "(M)" Stabber (Cruiser) needs faction indicator "(M)" Vexor (Cruiser) needs faction indicator "(G)" Vigil (Cruiser)(G) incorrectly marked as Gallente "(G)"; it should be Minmatar "(M)". MDD Jump Clones: 8M and NO corp switching
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.07.08 18:27:00 - [14] Edited by: Sunicro Starweaver on 08/07/2008 18:27:30 Originally by: MailDeadDrop Can you eloborate on how the "optimal" ME level was defined? I glanced at eve-guides.com but was unable to determine the definition for it. MDD Optimal "ME" really is a personal judgment call, as it is where you feel the cost of research is more expensive than the savings gained from that research. Eve-guides had it computed to a range that I agreed with, thus used that number. A good site to reference for a detailed list to make you own decision is Chruker , just look at any blueprint and you can see the cost of research compared to savings until you get to a Perfect Print. Optimal "ME" is just a guide to get you started. Generally I won't manufacture anything until is at least to Optimal, but always research towards Perfect if time permits. Thanks for the extreme list of corrects, which have been made. You have a detailed eye, catching all my tired typing errors. Much appreciated, keep them coming. Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.07.15 13:32:00 - [15] Bump I see there has been quite a few downloads, but very few comments. Would like to hear your love or hate feedback. This is a living document that only breaths through you, the users. Thanks Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
Aanamli Rift Lonewolf Logistics	Posted - 2008.07.15 16:23:00 - [16] Whew, I just started a new Industry pilot, wanted to explore other parts of the game that I haven't seen on my main pilot. This gave me more info in 5 mins then half the time spent searching these pages! A bonus section on Exploration is simply awesome. Thanks for your work on these pages! So I am a scrub Ammo builder. So what, now, you gonna buy something, or are you just wasting my time.
Adeena Torcfist Caldari Dark Underground Forces	Posted - 2008.07.15 17:04:00 - [17] Edited by: Adeena Torcfist on 15/07/2008 17:06:02 Nice site, just what i needed. couldnt of come at a better time
Lilkal Lone Star Joint Venture	Posted - 2008.07.31 20:24:00 - [18] Why is the opitaml ME for rigs 0? Researching rig blueprints can save a great deal in resources.
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:32:00 - [19] That would because the research time to perfect is so short. There is savings in material between Zero and Perfect, though usually only 1 salvage item per level, so why stop. Optimal is the point where continued research time cost out-weighs the savings in material savings gained. Thank you for trying my speadsheet, I hope it satisfied your needs for BP tracking. Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
Lilkal Lone Star Joint Venture	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:43:00 - [20] Originally by: Sunicro Starweaver That would because the research time to perfect is so short. There is savings in material between Zero and Perfect, though usually only 1 salvage item per level, so why stop. Optimal is the point where continued research time cost out-weighs the savings in material savings gained. That makes sense. Thank you for this great resource. I am astounded by how much work you put into it.
Khrillian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.08.01 20:33:00 - [21] Cool Idea You could make the tool a whole ton better if you released an individual tool that allowed people to enter their APIs and it would track their factory jobs. Info about use frequency, activity, and so forth could then be put into text files and uploaded to some website where they would be compiled for corp viewing. This saves people from the hassle of manual entry and would probably encourage more people to use it.
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.08.02 19:35:00 - [22] Quote: You could make the tool a whole ton better if you released an individual tool that allowed people to enter their APIs and it would track their factory jobs. Info about use frequency, activity, and so forth could then be put into text files and uploaded to some website where they would be compiled for corp viewing. This saves people from the hassle of manual entry and would probably encourage more people to use it. I had thought about this concept but decided against it. The reason I made this spreadsheet in the first place is because I could never seem to get EVE-MEEP to stay up to data correctly or the way I thought it should (probably was me not the program). Also I like to be able to sort easily which also was not available anywhere else. Though this is a manual process, there is no issues with API security, easier to add and keep track of individual ownership within a Corp or Alliance and easily set to configure for people to be able to view and or edit as required. This allows for the manufaturers to know what is available with actually being able to mess with data as an example. Thank you for your comments and enjoy SunicroÆs Ultimate BP Inventory. If you like what I have done, give me a shout here or in game. Always appreciate feedback, suggestions or simple thank you's. If anyone wants to take a stab at automating my spreadsheet, have at it, I just ask that you let me approve what you release prior to and that you acknowledge my part in the final product. I would be happy to help make it also, though I don't see that it is necessary. Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
Kigyouka	Posted - 2008.08.03 10:29:00 - [23] Thanks for all your effort....nice tool.. P.S you thought about a simple user guide??? Cheers Kig
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.08.03 14:23:00 - [24] Quote: P.S you thought about a simple user guide??? I explained what everything is in the original post, so I am not sure what you are looking for in a users guide. Do you mean something with pictures of how I go through the file and update it? If so, sure I could do something like that in the near future. In the mean time if you have any specific questions, just ask away. Thanks for using SunicroÆs Ultimate BP Inventory Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
Salia WinterDrake Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.07 04:22:00 - [25] Lots of Wingredients went into this - well done, fantastic resource. Vote for Sticky ----- VPN-Firewall Guide
Blumpy Tripfumble	Posted - 2008.08.07 22:11:00 - [26] Gotta say this is a very impressive. I spent weeks studying things before I found this and learned more in half an hour of easy reading than I found in weeks in the forums. Hat off to you. It isnt much but I've sent you a donation as a way to say thanks for the work that obviously went into this. BTW, Any way I can steal you for my corp when I get it going? Blumpy oh, and I dont suppose you have any suggestions on systems/stations where there are regularly M.E. slots available do you? It is probably guarded secrets anyway, but never hurts to ask.
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.08.08 13:59:00 - [27] Blumpy, Thank you for the kind words and the ISK. I am very happy that you find my simple no nonsense approach BP inventory and invention so useful. May it speed your way towards a successful Industrial Corp. Quote: BTW, Any way I can steal you for my corp when I get it going? As for stealing me away from my Corp, sadly no, as a Founder of the Corp, I plan to be in it for the long haul. However, if you find that your efforts in forming your own Corp is going slow or you just want to get some experience under your belt, Transilience is recruiting at the moment. Check us out. Quote: oh, and I dont suppose you have any suggestions on systems/stations where there are regularly M.E. slots available do you? It is probably guarded secrets anyway, but never hurts to ask. ME slots are never really available anywhere with the exception of some (very few and far between) 0.0 stations. Your best bet is to put up a HighSec with Labs if you can afford it, join a corp that has labs they willing to let you use, or pay someone to do the Research for you. As for the last option, Transcilience is always in the market to do research to order. Here is the information in case you are interested.... Small but dependable Research Service, I will do ME, PE, Copy and Invention. Option 1 - Research new BPO (ME or PE): I will purchase and research any BPO that is available on high security NPC sell orders for you. I will research it to the desired level and then send it to you once the research is complete. Cost includes the cost of BPO purchase. Once a quote is accepted (to include approximate completion date) I will be sent the Isk up front. as I will use that to purchase the BPO and perform the research. Once the research is complete the BPO will be traded or contracted back to you in the high sec system of your choice. Option 2 - Research existing BPO (ME or PE): The BPO will be sent to me in high security space. I will research it to the desired level of ME and PE and then return it to you. Once a quote is accepted you will trade or contract the BPO to me. I will place it into research and inform you of the date when it will be ready. Once it is ready I will trade or contract the researched BPO back to you in exchange for my fee. Option 3. Contact me and present your plan and terms. Discounts for repeat, long term business. We will expand as needed to support long term customers. We will also do speciality packages. (IE All of a type of BPO/BPC). Fees for Plans # ME under 3 days: 20k Installation, 15k per hour # ME over 3 days: 75k Installation, 5k per hour # PE: 10k Installation, 5k per hour # Copying: 15k per hour # Invention: 1m Installation, 50k per hour (You provide your own Data Cores and Decryptors. If I don't own the BPO you wish to invent on, then you may have to provide copies or the BPC for me to make copies (as priced above). If I provide the Data Cores, you pay market value for them. As Invention is not a guarentee, you tell me how many attempts you wish me to run, you pay for the batch of tries, you get all successes. NOTE: I will only research a BP to Perfect, if you want it higher than Perfect, you pay an extra 10k per hour for every hour over perfect. (IE Perfect Iron Charge is ME 29 PE 120, you want ME 100 for some reason, you pay extra, it is your money after all.) Lastly we will do any transactions involving BP's. You need to sell it, store it, trade it, we can provide all those services for you. Need a middle man to guarantee the transaction, look no further. Contact Transilience for all you BP needs. Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
Marara Kovacs	Posted - 2008.08.08 21:16:00 - [28] oh, and I dont suppose you have any suggestions on systems/stations where there are regularly M.E. slots available do you? It is probably guarded secrets anyway, but never hurts to ask. Check this link Blumpy Danar Industries Suni, this has been one of the most useful things ever. Thanks again and sorry for the blatant plug!!
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.08.14 14:18:00 - [29] Edited by: Sunicro Starweaver on 14/08/2008 14:18:36 Bump Just wanted to let everyone that is using my BP Inventory that I am working on a revision based on some changes that I have done to my Corps tracker. Before I finalize and publish the new version, thought I would post and give you an opportunity for feedback. Let me know what you like and dislike, plus anything else that you would like to see incorporated. Thanks and continue to enjoy ôSunicroÆs Ultimate BP Inventory" Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!
Sunicro Starweaver Transilience Industries	Posted - 2008.10.06 21:32:00 - [30] V2 finally ready. More columns added for ease of sorting and numerous small mistakes fixed, and all BP's verified in game. Check it out. Also I have uploaded a users guide to show you how I use it. May you have 100% invention success. Plan for tomorrow, Strive for Today, can't let anxiety get in our way, so play play play!

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