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Kery Syander The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.17 23:46:00 - [121] I couldn't make it but I was able to listen to it on TS and it definitely sounded like a slaughter. Once all the kills are fetched via the API, I fully expect to see the PL KB stats to take a serious hit. I doubt PL will be able to finish the job when it comes out of reinforced. L10n5 1ndu5tr135, my hat is off to you for winning the day. -----
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.07.18 02:43:00 - [122] I now have some ideas for my next setup. I came within a few seconds of about 10+ kills, meaning I need to adjust a few things next time. I know exactly what needs to be swapped out too to ramp up that dps 20-30%.
Tasko Pal Heron Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.18 02:48:00 - [123] You know, I'm starting to think this might be real market pvp after all. Certainly a lot more exciting than I was expecting.
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2008.07.18 02:55:00 - [124] Originally by: Shadarle I now have some ideas for my next setup. I came within a few seconds of about 10+ kills, meaning I need to adjust a few things next time. I know exactly what needs to be swapped out too to ramp up that dps 20-30%. You should let some MD alts join your corp (with no roles or access), so more can enjoy some real market PVP and die gloriously. It would be very funny watching MD competitors fight!
Chira Netanru	Posted - 2008.07.18 03:28:00 - [125] Originally by: Shadarle I now have some ideas for my next setup. I came within a few seconds of about 10+ kills, meaning I need to adjust a few things next time. I know exactly what needs to be swapped out too to ramp up that dps 20-30%. You mean like training SDM V? How many alts did you have gunning / how many guns manned, btw?
Divus Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.18 04:10:00 - [126] Edited by: Divus on 18/07/2008 04:14:23 This is what real market-PVP looks like - in realy shitty uncompressed MovieMaker quality http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Divus/pos-op_0008.wmv -------------------------------------------------
Alex Redwidth Caldari Industrial and Merchantile Investment Fund	Posted - 2008.07.18 12:20:00 - [127] Originally by: Divus This is what real market pvp looks like - in realy shitty MovieMaker quality So were the '100s of wrecks' just out of shot?
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.18 13:16:00 - [128] pandemic legion morale is shattered by this phyrric victory, i would almost say we'd move back to empire to regroup but even empire isnt safe for us now.
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.07.18 14:13:00 - [129] Edited by: Shadarle on 18/07/2008 14:15:11 Originally by: Chira Netanru Originally by: Shadarle I now have some ideas for my next setup. I came within a few seconds of about 10+ kills, meaning I need to adjust a few things next time. I know exactly what needs to be swapped out too to ramp up that dps 20-30%. You mean like training SDM V? How many alts did you have gunning / how many guns manned, btw? Didn't have SDM V on any chars, but I have SDM IV on all my chars. I had enough alts present to man all online batteries. The biggest problem was trying to target with 15+ seconds of lag. The GUI for controlled guns needs massive amounts of work. The target bar would come up, then disappear, and it would let you retarget as if your target had warepd away. Then 15-60 seconds later it would either pick the original target or sometimes a new target if you accidentally clicked a new one. Sometimes the guns would automatically switch to targeting mode, so you'd start targeting someone new even while the other guns were firing. It was very tough with the lag to do any sort of real targeting with guns that take 15-45 seconds to lock.
Selaik Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.18 14:25:00 - [130] lag goes both ways.
Utterly Amazing	Posted - 2008.07.18 15:31:00 - [131] You should be used to lag Shardarle. A system that rarely exceeds 100 pilots can't really be any worse than Jita. At least you were having fun.
Yokujin Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.18 17:46:00 - [132] Dear Shadarle, You are so right about the pathetic legion. After yesterday's incident, I took a full bottle of asprin and chased it with a bottle of jack. After which I took a nice drive while listening Imogen Heap on some curve backroads at about 70 mph. Let me tell you, at those speeds its kind of hard to handle razor blades. But I am feeling much better today. On a more serious note I would like to apply to join you in your massacre of the failboaters. Please look at my application and let me know if I am your kind of mate. Application: Here Yoku
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.07.19 00:29:00 - [133] Originally by: Utterly Amazing You should be used to lag Shardarle. A system that rarely exceeds 100 pilots can't really be any worse than Jita. At least you were having fun. I wouldn't really know what Jita is like as I barely ever visit the place. Maybe once every few months. I frankly have no clue how anyone makes money there, you have to play way too much. I like spending 10-15 minutes a day trading, it's all you need in the right places.
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.07.19 00:34:00 - [134] Originally by: Selaik lag goes both ways. Yes, but having to use the POS defense GUI only goes one way. And it's this gui that is horribly effected by lag. It doesn't work half the time in heavy lag situations. The target system will just stop working on one of the guns usually, meaning you have to wait 1-2 minutes extra to get it working... or you can fire without one of your guns, which means the target will easily have time to get defenses up. It also makes targeting ships trying to flea impossible, since instead of taking 25-45 seconds it akes 1-2 minutes and then they are gone and it takes 30-60 seconds for it to even register that the target left. Whereas attacking the POS you get to target a massive structure which takes very little time and it doesn't move nor warp away when it's about to die. In any case, as I've said, this attack was the most fun I've had in ages. I usually play 10-15 minutes a day, I played for hours and hours during the multiple attacks. I wish I could throw up more POS's time and again just to keep having fun like that.
Account Manager	Posted - 2008.07.19 03:19:00 - [135] Shadarle, for 100M i will provide you with Alak D'bor's frozen corpse. satisfaction guaranteed. using an alt to protect the people in a position to do this. PS , even the people blue to him don't like him ..
Yokujin Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.19 05:15:00 - [136] Edited by: Yokujin on 19/07/2008 05:16:20 Originally by: Shadarle Originally by: Selaik lag goes both ways. Yes, but having to use the POS defense GUI only goes one way. And it's this gui that is horribly effected by lag. It doesn't work half the time in heavy lag situations. The target system will just stop working on one of the guns usually, meaning you have to wait 1-2 minutes extra to get it working... or you can fire without one of your guns, which means the target will easily have time to get defenses up. It also makes targeting ships trying to flea impossible, since instead of taking 25-45 seconds it akes 1-2 minutes and then they are gone and it takes 30-60 seconds for it to even register that the target left. Would you like some cheese with you wine?
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.19 07:15:00 - [137] Originally by: Yokujin Dear Shadarle, I'm butt hurt. :words: Yoku Everything being discussed is pretty typical of pos warfare and eve server performance in general. The desyncs while at a pos can be pretty bad when you have large numbers at the pos and especially with drones out. http://obeythekitten.com/
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.19 07:19:00 - [138] Edited by: Devian 666 on 19/07/2008 07:19:51 Originally by: Shadarle hurf blurf pos stuff You'll find that they were probably suffering from issues with targeting and module activation lag. http://obeythekitten.com/
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.07.19 07:53:00 - [139] Edited by: Shadarle on 19/07/2008 07:52:50 Originally by: Devian 666 Edited by: Devian 666 on 19/07/2008 07:19:51 Originally by: Shadarle hurf blurf pos stuff You'll find that they were probably suffering from issues with targeting and module activation lag. I am quite certain they were. But I don't exactly think it makes it any more fun when we both have to suffer through lag. If the game can't handle a mere 30 people attacking a POS then I can't even imagine how stupid large fleet battles are. 30 People is nothing. Games like DAOC handled battles far larger without a hickup 5+ years ago. Heck, even battles involving 200+ people were much better than that 30 person battle was. I only care about my fun in this, their problems don't concern me. I merely had that POS there to provide me with fun and it did multiple times before and then 3 times in a two day period. So it served its purpose. But it would have been more fun if it didn't take approx 4-5 minutes just to target someone and shoot 2-3 volley's at someone to see if they'd die. If you guys leave that moon open and remove the war-dec I will rebuild a POS there and we can do it all again in a few more days. I had enough fun it's well worth the couple hundred mil to do it again.
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.19 08:06:00 - [140] Originally by: Shadarle Edited by: Shadarle on 19/07/2008 07:52:50 Originally by: Devian 666 Edited by: Devian 666 on 19/07/2008 07:19:51 Originally by: Shadarle hurf blurf pos stuff You'll find that they were probably suffering from issues with targeting and module activation lag. I am quite certain they were. But I don't exactly think it makes it any more fun when we both have to suffer through lag. If the game can't handle a mere 30 people attacking a POS then I can't even imagine how stupid large fleet battles are. 30 People is nothing. Games like DAOC handled battles far larger without a hickup 5+ years ago. Heck, even battles involving 200+ people were much better than that 30 person battle was. I only care about my fun in this, their problems don't concern me. I merely had that POS there to provide me with fun and it did multiple times before and then 3 times in a two day period. So it served its purpose. But it would have been more fun if it didn't take approx 4-5 minutes just to target someone and shoot 2-3 volley's at someone to see if they'd die. If you guys leave that moon open and remove the war-dec I will rebuild a POS there and we can do it all again in a few more days. I had enough fun it's well worth the couple hundred mil to do it again. I've complained about server performance with pos shot and in general. CCP have put a lot of effort into trying to isolate desyncs but from my perspective are not throwing enough hardware at the problem of overall server performance. I see lag in 1v1 and desyncs with only 10 people shooting a pos. Server performance in the past year has been terrible. Enough :words: from me. http://obeythekitten.com/
Yokujin Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.19 12:43:00 - [141] Originally by: Devian 666 Originally by: Yokujin Dear Shadarle, I'm butt hurt. :words: Yoku C. Originally by: Shadarle Edited by: Shadarle on 19/07/2008 07:52:50 But I don't exactly think it makes it any more fun when we both have to suffer through lag. If the game can't handle a mere 30 people attacking a POS then I can't even imagine how stupid large fleet battles are. They are kind of like powerpoint presentations. Originally by: Devian 666 CCP have put a lot of effort into trying to isolate desyncs but from my perspective are not throwing enough hardware at the problem of overall server performance. <3. You have been so cruel to me but so true. I think I like it when men are rough with me. Anyways Shadarle, Thanks for the lawlz and the fun.
Alak D'bor Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.19 14:31:00 - [142] Originally by: Account Manager Shadarle, for 100M i will provide you with Alak D'bor's/Danari's frozen corpse. I've left probably 200 corpses on the g-m gate in ewok in the past year. Show of hands, decent pvper who hasn't podded me at one time or another. You don't get 3000 kills without having your eggs scrambled once or twice.
Account Manager	Posted - 2008.07.19 16:19:00 - [143] Originally by: Alak D'bor Originally by: Account Manager Shadarle, for 100M i will provide you with Alak D'bor's/Danari's frozen corpse. I've left probably 200 corpses on the g-m gate in ewok in the past year. Show of hands, decent pvper who hasn't podded me at one time or another. You don't get 3000 kills without having your eggs scrambled once or twice. You don't get 3000 kills without writing your own killmails.
Tido Maliyu The Highmen Destroyers	Posted - 2008.07.19 19:50:00 - [144] Originally by: Yokujin Originally by: Shadarle Edited by: Shadarle on 19/07/2008 07:52:50 But I don't exactly think it makes it any more fun when we both have to suffer through lag. If the game can't handle a mere 30 people attacking a POS then I can't even imagine how stupid large fleet battles are. They are kind of like powerpoint presentations. More like microsoft office picture manager, tbqh.
Leowen Industrial Giants	Posted - 2008.07.20 00:45:00 - [145] Oh dear. People in MD learned over the past few months that feeding the Ego of Shadarle was not a good thing, so now Danari has given him an excuse to preen in front of a whole new bunch of folks. Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Heaven help us all. Thanks be that I don't frequent these pages much any more. Though I may pop by in the hope that someone will find a way to hand Shad his ass Good luck though, declaring the intent publicly in advance pretty much consigns the effort to Guaranteed Fail.
Taikun Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.20 02:31:00 - [146] Originally by: Leowen hope that someone will find a way to hand Shad his ass I personally take comfort knowing that it has already been done several times in real life. Taikun A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation.
Divus Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.20 02:39:00 - [147] Originally by: Taikun Originally by: Leowen hope that someone will find a way to hand Shad his ass I personally take comfort knowing that it has already been done several times in real life. Taikun stop posting -------------------------------------------------
Xelios Xarxes	Posted - 2008.07.20 03:52:00 - [148] I often wonder when I read these threads if these people also cry IRL when they drive by a nicer home or someone in a nicer car. Why not just accept there's always someone more successful? Jealousy is an ugly, ugly thing.
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.07.20 04:18:00 - [149] Originally by: Xelios Xarxes I often wonder when I read these threads if these people also cry IRL when they drive by a nicer home or someone in a nicer car. Why not just accept there's always someone more successful? Jealousy is an ugly, ugly thing. So very true. But it's fun seeing Leowen around, as I have a feeling he is richer than I am. Competition always brings out the best, so it's nice knowing there are others out there doing better than I am, gives me something to strive for.
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.07.20 05:14:00 - [150] Originally by: Bindusara Originally by: Xelios Xarxes I often wonder when I read these threads if these people also cry IRL when they drive by a nicer home or someone in a nicer car. Why not just accept there's always someone more successful? Jealousy is an ugly, ugly thing. I think you kind of missed the point of the thread. Danari didn't attack Shad because one is richer than the other, it was because Shad is an ass and more specifically, he's an ass to those who ask genuine questions. Which is the ironic part because this whole process has gotten me to post on these forums a lot more than I had been. I had barely been around the last few months, but now I'm checking the forums many times a day. As I stated in the other thread, "Mission Accomplished!" for Danari!

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