Originally by: northwesten

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I only have one answer which is fair. When the person commits a crime like ganking a freighter in high sec. I think they shouldn't get a insurance pay out. I mean dont get rid of insurance far from it just law breakers shouldn't get rewarded by insurance for it.

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Originally by: Sorted

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I know better than most how it works mate...

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Originally by: Lord Bleu

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Originally by: Jim McGregor

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So instead of finding another game more to your liking, you want to change this one so it suits you.

I like Eve how it is, thank you.

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Yes lets all just play the game and say nothing about the aspects we dont like. Speaking your mind and making suggestions that could improve the game is just dumb!

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Originally by: Gamesguy

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Edited by: Gamesguy on 09/07/2008 23:06:34

Originally by: Le Skunk

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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Easier way to go about it is to have someone fly an alt to each gate on the route ahead of time and shoot something to draw Concord, noob ships works, disposable alts works. Lame, hell yeah!

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Ther are FAR FAR FAR to many people in this thread who dont understnand suicide ganking and still piping in

1) The noob ship would be popped by the sentrys and no concord would spawn

2) assuming one concord spawn did magically arrive - then the one spawn would not effect the freighter gankers. They would simply have to bring along 1 or 2 more bs and still get the freighter popped - irrespective of the one conrd spawn

SKUNK

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First of all, you cant just magically summon more ships, you only use the BC suicider as a last resort AFTER you had already jumped into a camp.

Secondly, one concord spawn will easilly negate the damage from 5-10 bs. They switch targets immediately after popping their primary and they will neut/ecm/kill their target in about 2 seconds. You would need at least 5-10 more BS to assure a gank. 99% of camps do not have 5-10 additional bs sitting by waiting.

Not to mention there's a very good chance your webber can lock and web you before any of the gankers can.

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Originally by: Gamesguy

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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1) You clearly said "NOOB SHIPS WORK" - this (as i pointed out) is incorrect - as the noob ship is instapopped by sentries and therfore would not summon a concord spawn.

That was the first glaring error in your post

2) The one concord spawn from your sacrificial BS lamb, would ONLY NEGATE ONE GANKER BATTLESHIP (or two if you are playing it safe)

Certainly not 5 EXTRA CERTAINLY not 10 (as you ludicrously post) - as you maintain. How do I know? Because I HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN.

SKUNK

edit: I seem to remember a post about a failed freighter gank in JITA by BOB - perhaps that squads amaetuerness by BOB 'elite' pilots has made you think its difficult to do?

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1. You need your glasses checked, where did I say use a noobship? I said to use a tanked BC.

2. I've probably suicide ganked more than your entire corp when I was in tri. Unless the mechanics changed, its quite easy to avoid being ganked in a freighter.

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Originally by: Terry Zen

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Edited by: Terry Zen on 10/07/2008 13:35:34
The major problem imo is that freighters cant be tanked or anything.
The freighter pilot can do nothing and thats the problem nothing against a suicide gank. You need a certain amount of people and its done doesnt matter if autopiloting or not, doesnt matter if youre the best pilot in eve or the worst.

If that would be fixed suicide ganking would be fine.

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