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Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.05.20 11:50:00 - [1] As it has come to light that the community in Eve has little use for above items when traveling all such items will be removed. The only possible change will be to keep 1mn MWD and AB's due to their use on frigates in PvP. There has been long talks about dropping Mid slots from industrial class ships but that has yet to be agreed. ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
XeQtR	Posted - 2004.05.20 11:52:00 - [2] So what's with teh weird posts you've been making latelly?
eddie valvetino	Posted - 2004.05.20 11:53:00 - [3] Originally by: Pychian Vanervi As it has come to light that the community in Eve has little use for above items when traveling all such items will be removed. The only possible change will be to keep 1mn MWD and AB's due to their use on frigates in PvP. There has been long talks about dropping Mid slots from industrial class ships but that has yet to be agreed. What about noobs in frigets with very little money? Wake up!!! (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.05.20 11:54:00 - [4] Um...... Put the ***** down mmmmmm'kay.
meowcat	Posted - 2004.05.20 11:54:00 - [5] haven't got a single ship without at least 1 MWD, including me cruiser i really would cancel my sub if they did this... its far too boring and slow going anywhere without a mwd ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
eddie valvetino	Posted - 2004.05.20 12:00:00 - [6] Originally by: meowcat haven't got a single ship without at least 1 MWD, including me cruiser i really would cancel my sub if they did this... its far too boring and slow going anywhere without a mwd Not sure i'd take it take far, but you can't dump MWD and AB, as well as scraping Instajumps and bookmarks... Not good, i'm trying to make a living here. I doubt very much that this is true, sounds like rumour to me! However if it is true, are CCP trying turn us all into gate camping pirates (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.05.20 12:00:00 - [7] Originally by: XeQtR So what's with teh weird posts you've been making latelly? Its what the people want to hear. Down with gate and down with MWD and AB's!! ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
DeFood	Posted - 2004.05.20 12:08:00 - [8] I agree. Remove Overdrives, Afterburners and MWDs. Theyre clearly useless. If we were meant to use these things, I wouldnt have over 200 insta BMs to every location in space I might need to visit.
Torvus	Posted - 2004.05.20 12:18:00 - [9] Originally by: Pychian Vanervi As it has come to light that the community in Eve has little use for above items when traveling all such items will be removed. The only possible change will be to keep 1mn MWD and AB's due to their use on frigates in PvP. There has been long talks about dropping Mid slots from industrial class ships but that has yet to be agreed. Ah, you'd be the one cluttering up the forums with useless gibberish then. Do us all a favour and find a quiet room somewhere where you can rant to yourself all day long without annoying anyone else. _____________________________________________________________ War is much too serious a matter to be entrusted to the military. Georges Clemenceau (1841 - 1929)
Drakxter	Posted - 2004.05.20 12:23:00 - [10] Edited by: Drakxter on 20/05/2004 12:56:01 Originally by: Pychian Vanervi Originally by: XeQtR So what's with teh weird posts you've been making latelly? Its what the people want to hear. Down with gate and down with MWD and AB's!! Yes down with them, remove them.. We have insta jumps, lets just make insta jumps work between ANY solarsystem possible.. YAY.. That should make a lot of people happy. Almost no travel time, no pvp, no gate ganking, no nothing. ------------- Most tired of thing atm: - Mods on the forum saying: "Please use the bug report page to submit bugs, the forum is not the place to post them." and then closing a topic.
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.05.20 12:57:00 - [11] Originally by: Torvus Ah, you'd be the one cluttering up the forums with useless gibberish then. Do us all a favour and find a quiet room somewhere where you can rant to yourself all day long without annoying anyone else. Thats me, But I seem to have missed what you had to bring to this thread? ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
Ky Vatta	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Pychian Vanervi As it has come to light that the community in Eve has little use for above items when traveling all such items will be removed. The only possible change will be to keep 1mn MWD and AB's due to their use on frigates in PvP. There has been long talks about dropping Mid slots from industrial class ships but that has yet to be agreed. Just paint a big bullseye target on your ship, and a sign saying 'Shoot me', and go sit in 0.0sec space...... Corp Chief Engineer
eddie valvetino	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:12:00 - [13] Edited by: eddie valvetino on 20/05/2004 13:13:33 Originally by: DeFood I agree. Remove Overdrives, Afterburners and MWDs. Theyre clearly useless. If we were meant to use these things, I wouldnt have over 200 insta BMs to every location in space I might need to visit. But what happens when they do away with insta-jumps and book marks to gates? How you gonna get your ships and kits thru quickly then? however overdrives seem to have little over all effect!!! (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
Darius Octavius	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Pychian Vanervi Originally by: XeQtR So what's with teh weird posts you've been making latelly? Its what the people want to hear. Down with gate and down with MWD and AB's!! I agree. And let's get rid of all weapons and just ram each other. And no more trading (not that it works). No more mining, pvp, warping, jumping, docking, undocking, selling, buying, or anything else that involves interaction with the program. We'll all just sit around and whine about what we don't like about the game on this forum because that's what it seems to be all about. Stellar Products and Quality Resources ticker: SPQR established 6-03
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:18:00 - [15] Originally by: eddie valvetino But what happens when they do away with insta-jumps and book marks to gates? How you gonna get your ships and kits thru quickly then? however overdrives seem to have little over all effect!!! Do away with insta jump BM, your having a laugh mate, they would never do that!! Its a feature of the game that helps everyone get about quicker and safer, man where have you been hiding??? ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
chillz	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:19:00 - [16] Edited by: chillz on 20/05/2004 13:23:37 Can we get rid of all the turrets too? They are clearly useless, or maybe make it so you can only mount guns if you have a negative secrurity status. "Do away with insta jump BM, your having a laugh mate, they would never do that!! Its a feature of the game that helps everyone get about quicker and safer, man where have you been hiding??? But they don't want you to have a chance of getting away from them when they are ganking a gate. Don't you understand that. Using the sentry gun exploit is alright in their book (CCP say it's OK). But using bookmarks to travel is an exploit they wont condone (CCP say it's OK). So goes the logic of the wanabee pirate. ----------------------------------- A gun and a packet of sandwiches. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
DeFood	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:19:00 - [17] Originally by: eddie valvetino But what happens when they do away with insta-jumps and book marks to gates? Never is a long time. We will have a first person*****pit view before they get rid of insta's.
eddie valvetino	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:25:00 - [18] Edited by: eddie valvetino on 20/05/2004 13:28:21 Originally by: Pychian Vanervi Originally by: eddie valvetino But what happens when they do away with insta-jumps and book marks to gates? How you gonna get your ships and kits thru quickly then? however overdrives seem to have little over all effect!!! Do away with insta jump BM, your having a laugh mate, they would never do that!! Its a feature of the game that helps everyone get about quicker and safer, man where have you been hiding??? Okay, no they're not likely to do away with bookmarks but Insta-jumps, that's a different matter. It would not be hard for CCP to introduce and players to deploy warp scambling fields with a 15km range at the gates and stations, this would allow you to keep bookmarks but stop Insta-jumps. It's being talked about, i can assure you. So what do you wanna lose? MWDs and engine up grades (a highly likely technology in the world of Eve) or Insta-jumps? (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
Serge Tahlon	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:27:00 - [19] Edited by: Serge Tahlon on 20/05/2004 13:28:44 Originally by: Darius Octavius I agree. And let's get rid of all weapons and just ram each other. And no more trading (not that it works). No more mining, pvp, warping, jumping, docking, undocking, selling, buying, or anything else that involves interaction with the program. it is called IRC and you dont even have to pay a subscription ~~ signatures ?! all they do is wasteing space... ~~
chillz	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:36:00 - [20] It's an interesting thought though. Get rid of instas so most of your time in eve is spent watching a gate get nearer would seriously dent the number of players. No one wants to play a travel simulator. I'm sure the bean counters at CCP would have something to say about it. Why don't all the whining pirates go and buy some mobile warp disruptors and learn how to use them? I've been snagged by them up in the Vale whilst using instas and warp core stabbies. ----------------------------------- A gun and a packet of sandwiches. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
GeoNoSiS	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:45:00 - [21] Originally by: XeQtR So what's with teh weird posts you've been making latelly? I think he wants to get banned... ----------------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:48:00 - [22] Originally by: chillz It's an interesting thought though. Get rid of instas so most of your time in eve is spent watching a gate get nearer would seriously dent the number of players. No one wants to play a travel simulator. I'm sure the bean counters at CCP would have something to say about it. Why don't all the whining pirates go and buy some mobile warp disruptors and learn how to use them? I've been snagged by them up in the Vale whilst using instas and warp core stabbies. This is not about insta jumps its about getting rid of MWD and AB's. I suggest insta jumps stay but save duping player in purchasing said mods just let them know that they are not needed as we have insta BM to get us every where. ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:54:00 - [23] Originally by: GeoNoSiS I think he wants to get banned... Banned why would I want to do that, I couldn't help canpaign to get rid of MWD nad AB's. Like I said they are redundent pieces of kit so may aswell save the noobs and uninformed from wasting their isk. ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
chillz	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:57:00 - [24] Sorry my mistake, yeah go ahead and get rid of MWD's. I didn't want to orbit that target at over 2000m/s anyway. I'd much rather catch those missiles in my warp drive. ----------------------------------- A gun and a packet of sandwiches. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
NeoMorph	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:58:00 - [25] Originally by: Pychian Vanervi As it has come to light that the community in Eve has little use for above items when traveling all such items will be removed. The only possible change will be to keep 1mn MWD and AB's due to their use on frigates in PvP. There has been long talks about dropping Mid slots from industrial class ships but that has yet to be agreed. I'm sorry but the suggestions you have put forward have very little thought behind them... Perhaps we should get rid of spaceships altogether and fly around the Eve Universe with jet packs? Do away with weapons and it would get rid of griefers? I'm quite happy with the way things are atm and I would guess a large part of the the player base is too or they wouldn't be playing the game. Do away with AB and MWD and Jump Gates?... heh... Will only come about when they change the name to Earth And Beyond ------------------------------------------- <Stavros> the first motor bike i ever rode <Stavros> was a honda gold wing <Ak-Gara> hah <Stavros>
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.05.20 13:59:00 - [26] Originally by: chillz Sorry my mistake, yeah go ahead and get rid of MWD's. I didn't want to orbit that target at over 2000m/s anyway. I'd much rather catch those missiles in my warp drive. Is that in a frigate? If so read my initial post! ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
chillz	Posted - 2004.05.20 14:02:00 - [27] Missed your point again Pychian. You want to get rid of MWD's but keep MWD's You sure have some strange logic going on in your head. There has been long talks about dropping Mid slots from industrial class ships but that has yet to be agreed. Who's been talking? Do you work at CCP? Or was it just the voices in your head again??? ----------------------------------- A gun and a packet of sandwiches. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
NeoMorph	Posted - 2004.05.20 14:03:00 - [28] Originally by: Pychian Vanervi Originally by: GeoNoSiS I think he wants to get banned... Banned why would I want to do that, I couldn't help canpaign to get rid of MWD nad AB's. Like I said they are redundent pieces of kit so may aswell save the noobs and uninformed from wasting their isk. Not redundant at ALL. Just because you haven't got the skill or don't want to use them please don't try to force your playing style onto everyone else. I like my MWD's and AB's and spent the time training all the nav skills to use them efficiently. ------------------------------------------- <Stavros> the first motor bike i ever rode <Stavros> was a honda gold wing <Ak-Gara> hah <Stavros>
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.05.20 14:07:00 - [29] Originally by: chillz Missed your point again Pychian. You want to get rid of MWD's but keep MWD's You sure have some strange logic going on in your head. There has been long talks about dropping Mid slots from industrial class ships but that has yet to be agreed. Who's been talking? Do you work at CCP? Or was it just the voices in your head again??? Read my first post again, and when I say read I mean look at the words and understand then! ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
eddie valvetino	Posted - 2004.05.20 14:10:00 - [30] Originally by: Pychian Vanervi Originally by: chillz It's an interesting thought though. Get rid of instas so most of your time in eve is spent watching a gate get nearer would seriously dent the number of players. No one wants to play a travel simulator. I'm sure the bean counters at CCP would have something to say about it. Why don't all the whining pirates go and buy some mobile warp disruptors and learn how to use them? I've been snagged by them up in the Vale whilst using instas and warp core stabbies. This is not about insta jumps its about getting rid of MWD and AB's. I suggest insta jumps stay but save duping player in purchasing said mods just let them know that they are not needed as we have insta BM to get us every where. Hye dude, i totally understand what you're saying, realy i do, my point this traveling by book mark and insta-jumps, while everybody does, is in fact an exploit and therefore against the rules of the game, MWD ABs and Overdrives, aren't... they are legit. I have been reading some other threads and there is some noise about scrapping not bookmarks but insta-jumps (using warp disrupting fields deployed at gates and stations so you just can't warp at all within 15km or so) My point is that you can't live without either MWDs and the like or bookmarks, can you? If something is to go, surely scrapping insta-jumps is fairer to the noob... and never forgot noobs are the life blood of CCP's business. (\_/) (O.o) (> <)

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