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Arthor Dark
Gallente
N.A.S.A.
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.07.07 17:01:00 -
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Just trying to gauge what some individual upper end income is like for players here.
How much isk per month do you make on average?
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.07.07 17:06:00 -
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More than some, less than others.
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Athias
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Posted - 2008.07.07 17:19:00 -
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More than a noob and less than Shardalalalanddalasharda or how its spelled 
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2008.07.07 17:24:00 -
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Between 0.10 ISK and 5 Billion is what maybe 80% of EVE players have. And that only represents 20% of the total ISK in EVE. The other 20% have the other 80% of the ISK.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.07.07 17:40:00 -
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Enough to pay for my GTC... even at todays new rates since the 30/90 slash |
cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.07.07 18:50:00 -
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If you send me 500M ISK, I will send you Suze Orman's guide to making ISK in Eve!
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Roguehalo
Caldari
RH Ship Brokers
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:42:00 -
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tbh i more or less stopped playing atm so my income is down to about 2b a month 
when i have a few long skills trained(doing wholesale5 atm) maybe my interest(and income) might perk up a bit
I'm not holding my breath since FW has been a really big disappointment for me
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:56:00 -
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Zero.
Director | www.eve-bank.net
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Zanphear
United EVE Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Zanphear on 07/07/2008 21:58:35
I have not proven this, but at the current rate of aproximitly 1 billion a day on avrage Id say about 30 billion a month :)
Edit: Oh wait I just fell for it, oh god now I feel stupit ! XD
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Ambo
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.08 08:19:00 -
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These days, not so much. I don't really play anymore so it all comes from investments.
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.07.08 08:39:00 -
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Enough, but definately not too much.
I appear to be in the 20% who posses 80% of the isk that was mentioned above.
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.08 09:07:00 -
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Enough for GTC's and some ship pimping. The skies the limit in Eve.
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T'Amber
anomandaris demaleon
Vaccaei Imperial
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Posted - 2008.07.08 09:20:00 -
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If people are making as much as everyone suggest i gotta get a new job in eve :)
Some estimates from Corp Members for one person:
Running level 3 missions & Loot: c.18mil an hour + 6,000 LP
Running level 4 missions & Loot: c.40mil an hour + 14,000 LP
Mining Hi Sec: c.20mil an hour
Mining Lo Sec: c.35mil an hour
Ratting 0.0sec: c.60mil an hour
Ninja Salvaging: 400mil per month
Manufacturing t2 Ships and Market Orders: 3.6bil per month (c. 200ships per month, 3 characters)
Manufacturing t1 BPCs: 900mil per month (1x Medium Pos, advanced labs)
Don't quote me on those amounts, but It looks close to me.
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a n o m a n d a r i s . d e m a l e o n
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.08 10:23:00 -
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The most lucrative ISK making methods are missing from your list: Trade & Investments.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.08 12:38:00 -
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Actually, two more : corp taxes and scamming of all kinds.
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The mineral/moonstuff balance || *THE* nanofix
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Ambo
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.08 12:39:00 -
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Indeed, with a single char trading I've managed a little over 6 bil in a month. If I really pushed it then I rekon I could hit 10 bil but it would probably kill me. 
I know others who make a little more with (alegedly) a lot less effort but I don't know any one over around 15 bil per month on a regular basis. I'm sure there are some out there who manage it though.
In much the same way that me earning 1 bil per month without even playing the game is incomprehensible to many people, others earning 10 bil per month while barely playing is incomprehensible to me.
Beyond a certain point it all becomes pretty irrelevant.
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EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
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Posted - 2008.07.08 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: EBANK Ricdic on 08/07/2008 13:20:31
 Originally by: Ambo
In much the same way that me earning 1 bil per month without even playing the game is incomprehensible to many people, others earning 10 bil per month while barely playing is incomprehensible to me.
25b in one month
Obviously you need to base it on scale. Most people wouldn't have anywhere near the capital to work with that we do.
edit: scratch that, the P&L covers three months
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Arthor Dark
Gallente
N.A.S.A.
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.07.08 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: Arthor Dark on 08/07/2008 14:42:40
Edited by: Arthor Dark on 08/07/2008 14:41:43
Originally by: EBANK Ricdic
Edited by: EBANK Ricdic on 08/07/2008 13:20:31
Originally by: Ambo
In much the same way that me earning 1 bil per month without even playing the game is incomprehensible to many people, others earning 10 bil per month while barely playing is incomprehensible to me.
25b in one month
Obviously you need to base it on scale. Most people wouldn't have anywhere near the capital to work with that we do.
edit: scratch that, the P&L covers three months
Is that 25b by one individual alone?
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Ambo
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.08 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: EBANK Ricdic
Edited by: EBANK Ricdic on 08/07/2008 13:20:31
Originally by: Ambo
In much the same way that me earning 1 bil per month without even playing the game is incomprehensible to many people, others earning 10 bil per month while barely playing is incomprehensible to me.
25b in one month
Obviously you need to base it on scale. Most people wouldn't have anywhere near the capital to work with that we do.
edit: scratch that, the P&L covers three months
Come on Ric, that's you revenue, profit is more like a measly 13 bil last month. 
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.07.08 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Arthor Dark
Just trying to gauge what some individual upper end income is like for players here.
How much isk per month do you make on average?
Just look at the EVE population and who does what. The majority of EVE players are not "hardcore" nor have fancy supercapitals or large businesses. So most people have less than 5 billion ISK, including assets. The older characters and many of the older 0.0 alliance folk who have been playing for 3-5 years can more easily be in the 5-20 range as that is where the nice production operations are, knowledge often comes with experience, they have had time to acquire assets, and these are the people who fly capitals, and who aspire to fly MS (so there is necessity as well). Then you have the "rich" people in both Empire and 0.0 who are able to run trade empires, fly personal Titans, and run the oldest and most profitable businesses in the game, some secretive some not.
Given spending and costs, your average players probably make almost nothing to a bil a month, and often match their spending on ships/pvp/etc with that income. The older players that have hoarded up some money or who have assets/infrastructure to make money when they start to run low can usually do a few billion a month or more if they tried. And everything else varies greatly on field of focus and time in the game. Also some people will spend hours a day to reach that 2 billion / month goal, and others will spend maybe 5 hours of maintenance. It really varies. And you will always find people who break a classification one way or the other.
Personally I'd say you're successful if you're having fun and pulling in enough to sustain whatever lifestyle you want to have in EVE. You have to set your own benchmarks, and for each person different people are considered "rich". My definition is very different than most other folks', but just as valid.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.07.08 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ambo
Come on Ric, that's you revenue, profit is more like a measly 13 bil last month.
I chuckled =)
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Jade Grimpkin
Trader's Academy
Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.07.08 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Just look at the EVE population and who does what. The majority of EVE players are not "hardcore" nor have fancy supercapitals or large businesses. So most people have less than 5 billion ISK, including assets.
Heya,
Isn't 7 months the average for an eve player? It's hard to tell (mostly hhanging around trader friends here)but there are a whole bunch of people out there struggling for that 100million isk figure to start flashing in their wallets.
J
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EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
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Posted - 2008.07.08 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ambo
Come on Ric, that's you revenue, profit is more like a measly 13 bil last month.
If it was all our capital it would have been net profit. Obviously not everyone reading this thread is working with funds that need interest paid on them.
Check the OP's questions, they simply asked how much profit you could make in a month. We made 25b in that 3 month period of which some had to be paid out customers
I interpreted the questioning differently, that doesn't make it wrong 
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Jade Grimpkin
Trader's Academy
Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.07.08 15:15:00 -
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now thinking, anyone know what the average wallet figure is?
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.07.08 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Grimpkin
now thinking, anyone know what the average wallet figure is?
Probably low, considering that 98% of people with large gobs of money are going to have said money invested in assets and projects making more money. I think this was published by CCP once in an economic report and it was silly low. Anyone know?
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Arthor Dark
Gallente
N.A.S.A.
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.07.08 15:26:00 -
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I would guess that the most profitable (isk per hour of active playing) venture is if you have a large collection of T2 BPOs, in which case you just log in ever so often to update build material market orders, sell orders, and builds, and then occasionally haul them (which could be done by courier contracts.) In all, this venture could easily pull in billions, depending on the t2 BPO collection.
But, baring such a venture, the otions left for the average joe that just started playing eve is active income ventures: missioning, mining, ratting, and exploration, and passive income: research, invention, manufacture and trading.
Active income ventures are crap.
As for the passive income, research though taking the least amount of time and effort, generally provide the least amount of isk in return.
Manufacturing is all about location.
Trading is about the drudgery of updating the damn orders, unless you're in a great location, but then your volume is not so good.
Invention is great, but it does require one to be flexible, and good with figuring out what to invent..
Hrm, I don't know where I was going with this, but ...
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Khatred
ReallyPissedOff
Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2008.07.08 18:52:00 -
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10 isk per milisecond!
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.07.08 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Khatred
10 isk per milisecond!
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.07.08 19:01:00 -
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Anyone who managed to get a good T2 BPO ISk printing machine early on.
An early Hulk BPO made over 400M profit per ship built.
These unknown guys, Trinity, deadspace 10/10 campers in BOB space MAYBE worth over a trill?
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.07.08 20:58:00 -
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Why must everyone be political :-p
It's not like any alliance who had 10/10 complexes didn't camp them 24/7.
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CEO, Founder, & Executor
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