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Ragnar Dannaskjold
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:25:00 -
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I gave up on mining shortly after getting a procurer (lawl, skipped cruisers) because I realized:
1. Mining is incredibly boring
2. It would take months to be able to fly a coveter/hulk
So I rerolled Gallente so I could pirate/pvp/actually enjoy the game.
Evemon is showing that it would take 10ish days to actually be able to get in a thron, but what skills would I need to be able to fit/fly a blasterthron well?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Ragnar Dannaskjold
Evemon is showing that it would take 10ish days to actually be able to get in a thron, but what skills would I need to be able to fit/fly a blasterthron well?
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:32:00 -
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Gallente BS - at least 4
Large T2 guns - at least 4
All armor skills - 5
All cap skills - 5
All fitting skills - 5
T2 Heavy drones - at least 4
Skills for T2 MWD, cap injector, web and scram
Some other skills.
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Malxort
Minmatar
Paradox Brothers
Doom Armada
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Malxort on 07/07/2008 21:32:52
First, I think this would be better in the skills forum, but regardless. You would need decent:
1) Blaster skills (a.k.a. t2 large blasters + gunnery)
2) Fitting Skills
3) Cap Management Skills
4) Navigation Skills
5) T2 Web/Disruptor
6) Good Drone Skills
7) Rigging Skills
8) Tank Skills (resistances/reppers)
9) Gallente BS 5
Thats just off the top of my head, its a lot more than 10 days.
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EliteSlave
Minmatar
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:33:00 -
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to get into a hulk and use it competently will take the same amount of time to fly a megathron competently..
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: EliteSlave
to get into a hulk and use it competently will take the same amount of time to fly a megathron competently..
Mining is still incredibly boring though.
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Spineker
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:35:00 -
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Those large T2 guns take what I forget 100 days?
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:37:00 -
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Apart from all the support skills, which is a different chapter completely, and which you will need to go through regardless of what ship you want to get into…
…EVEMon offers the capability to look up the various Battleclinic fittings for any given ship, and can give you a training plan for the skills required to actually use that fit. You can use that as a template and then add the support skills listed above.
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Faife
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Faife on 07/07/2008 21:57:42
Originally by: EliteSlave
to get into a hulk and use it competently will take the same amount of time to fly a megathron competently..
yup. BS level toy.
addendum: why on earth do you want to start pvping in a thron? start with a thorax.
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
why on earth do you want to start pvping in a thron? start with a thorax.
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Spineker
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:08:00 -
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Second this this^
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Arcon Telf
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Spineker
Second this this^
Third that. ---^
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:39:00 -
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What's wrong with an Incursus ? 
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: Tarminic on 07/07/2008 22:49:46
Originally by: Ki An
Gallente BS - at least 4
Large T2 guns - at least 4
All armor skills - 5
All cap skills - 5
All fitting skills - 5
T2 Heavy drones - at least 4
Skills for T2 MWD, cap injector, web and scram
Some other skills.
Hey guys, I'm currently flying a Thorax, with less than 1 million SP in gunnery. In fact, I only have medium hybrid turret trained to 1! How about them apples?!
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Hey guys, I'm currently flying a Thorax, with less than 1 million SP in gunnery. In fact, I only have medium hybrid turret trained to 1! How about them apples?!
Quite tasty, those apples. Healthy too.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Hey guys, I'm currently flying a Thorax, with less than 1 million SP in gunnery. In fact, I only have medium hybrid turret trained to 1! How about them apples?!
You have MEDIUM hybrid turrets on a low-SP Thorax ? 
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Tarminic
Hey guys, I'm currently flying a Thorax, with less than 1 million SP in gunnery. In fact, I only have medium hybrid turret trained to 1! How about them apples?!
You have MEDIUM hybrid turrets on a low-SP Thorax ?
I hear that you shouldn't even undock until you have all navigation skills and racial frigate to 5, really.
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Leviathan9
Gallente
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:57:00 -
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Edited by: Leviathan9 on 07/07/2008 22:57:40
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Tarminic
Hey guys, I'm currently flying a Thorax, with less than 1 million SP in gunnery. In fact, I only have medium hybrid turret trained to 1! How about them apples?!
You have MEDIUM hybrid turrets on a low-SP Thorax ?
Am i missing something here??
Edit.. nvm.
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doctorstupid2
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:58:00 -
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Level 5.
All of them.
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Caffeine Junkie
2 Guys In Motherships
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Posted - 2008.07.07 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: Caffeine Junkie on 07/07/2008 23:02:15
Originally by: EliteSlave
to get into a hulk and use it competently will take the same amount of time to fly a megathron competently..
I takes far far less time to be competent in a hulk than a Megathron.
Gunnery Skills alone are going to be 3 months, T2 heavy drones + support skills 2 months at least, add cap skills, mwd, gallente BS...
Hulk requires Barge 5, Astrogeology 5, Exhumers IV, Refining V, Refinery Eff V, and ore skill 4, few drone, shield and cap skills.
Skip the Megathron for a moment, get Gallente Cruiser V, nav skills and some drone skills, buy an Ishtar and join a 0.0 alliance.
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Xiaodown
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.07 23:02:00 -
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HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.07.07 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Leviathan9
Edited by: Leviathan9 on 07/07/2008 22:57:40
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Tarminic
Hey guys, I'm currently flying a Thorax, with less than 1 million SP in gunnery. In fact, I only have medium hybrid turret trained to 1! How about them apples?!
You have MEDIUM hybrid turrets on a low-SP Thorax ?
Am i missing something here??
Edit.. nvm.
He's referring to the 1600mm plate + light blaster Thorax.
To be honest, meh. Consider the 800mm and heavy blaster version.
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Arcon Telf
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.07 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Nihil
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He's referring to the 1600mm plate + light blaster Thorax.
To be honest, meh. Consider the 800mm and heavy blaster version.
Word. The 1600mm/small neutron Thorax may have worked a few years ago (there are some very entertaining videos floating around)...but not now. These days, small guns on a Thorax is simply blasphemy. Thoraxes are not meant to last for months. Set it up to melt faces, dive in, rinse [replace], repeat.
The Thorax is a great cruiser for anyone with 2 million to 60 million SP. Just depends on what you do with it.
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Spineker
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.07 23:33:00 -
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I think thorax is the funnest (is that a word?)cruiser around. Vexor is fun too but the thorax just has class and you haven't pvp'ed until you died or survived a 1on1 with a thorax.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.07 23:42:00 -
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I will always prefer my 1600mm Thorax, simply because it is lulzy how difficult it is to kill, and it is dirt cheap to fit.
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Gimpb
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Posted - 2008.07.07 23:56:00 -
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You could be effective in a blasterthron with BS 3, modest armor skills, and T1 blasters. You certainly don't need anything near BS 5 and T2 guns to make proper use of a BS.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.07.08 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gimpb
You could be effective in a blasterthron with BS 3, modest armor skills, and T1 blasters. You certainly don't need anything near BS 5 and T2 guns to make proper use of a BS.
Effective as in "my HAC outdamages your BS"? Sorry but t1 fit lowskill BS are just cannon fodder. Better stick with BC+t2 guns than BS+t1 guns.
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Ragnar Dannaskjold
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Posted - 2008.07.08 01:42:00 -
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Alrighty then... what skills would I need to properly fly a thorax?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.08 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
I will always prefer my 1600mm Thorax, simply because it is lulzy how difficult it is to kill, and it is dirt cheap to fit.
only managed to see one of those in a 1v1 situation, and my harbinger just ripped it apart. he barely got into my armor.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.08 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Effective as in "my HAC outdamages your BS"? Sorry but t1 fit lowskill BS are just cannon fodder. Better stick with BC+t2 guns than BS+t1 guns.
Well, if you go with cheapo lowend T1 named fits (like, oh, say, "Limited" blasters, which are actually CHEAPER than T1) and a fully insured boat, you might actually lose less cash than a T2-fited cruiser when you pop, while being able to absorb and deal similar amounts of punishment.
And a full "lowend" Mega fit can costs down to what, 7 mil ISK ? Plus again, what, 8 mil after insurance for the ship ?
That's a paltry 15 mil ISK actual loss or so when it blows up.
I mean, think 60-75k EHP and 500-750 output DPS or so depending on skills and cheap weapon size picked... even more if you go with faction ammo (but that can cost significantly extra).
That's not that bad, for that price... or is it ?
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