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Mauhrin Boda
Gallente Void Angels The Church.
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:05:00 -
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Edited by: Mauhrin Boda on 08/07/2008 05:05:49 Hey, I am a bit of a newb and this is my first post on the EVE forums, and this is just a random question that popped into my head.
I've also been hearing about people with wallets topping 1 billion ISK. Has anyone ever topped 1 trillion?
A better question yet: how in the world does anyone make that kind of money?!
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Micia
Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:09:00 -
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I will categorically state, here and now, that I am *not* the richest pilot in the galaxy.
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:15:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 08/07/2008 05:15:14 Probably Chribba. The richest guy I know (personally) is a trader and he held like 20-30 billion ISK at once before I think (not including his assets, just his wallet). I imagine a mere couple hundred people are richer than that - Chribba is the only one I can think of who would have that much to be 'the' richest.
Dr. Caymus is also a very old player who has probably the most perfect producing skill sheet out there. You may know him from ineve.net for having over 100m SP. I imagine himself, and his corp of alts, run a unpreal shop and make a insane amount of ISK too. He may also be likely the richest guy in EVE, maybe even have better odds then Chribba? ____________________
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Auty
Caldari BROWBEAT Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:21:00 -
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Entity has gotta be pretty high up there with all those l33t items he holds
Just the Raven state issue, Tribal Tempest, Megathron federate issue alone would make him a very very rich man isk wise
and thats not including all estamels mods etc
So id say assets wise he prb one of richest
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:30:00 -
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I'd say both Entity and Istvaan have to be two of the richest around.
They both own at least one unique hulled ship (Megathron Federate Issue and Apocalypse Imperial Issue respectively.) In terms of cost, you can't put a price on them they're so valuable.
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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:35:00 -
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Well 1 billion isn't really that much. Technically, all you have is ten 100 Millions. What can you do with 100 Million? ----
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:38:00 -
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I would say Khatred, with about 80 T2 BPOs consisting of Recon, Command and HAC only - the average monthly income has to be staggering.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
I'd say both Entity and Istvaan have to be two of the richest around.
They both own at least one unique hulled ship (Megathron Federate Issue and Apocalypse Imperial Issue respectively.) In terms of cost, you can't put a price on them they're so valuable.
I thought Tyrrax lost his Impoc a long time ago? Also I believe Entitiy paid for most of his unique ships so I think there very much is a price on everything in EVE. --
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Tonkin
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:43:00 -
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my mate pen had 2.2 trill if i remebered right, he aint played in 6 months though lol
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Zomiaen
Gallente Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Verone
I'd say both Entity and Istvaan have to be two of the richest around.
They both own at least one unique hulled ship (Megathron Federate Issue and Apocalypse Imperial Issue respectively.) In terms of cost, you can't put a price on them they're so valuable.
I thought Tyrrax lost his Impoc a long time ago? Also I believe Entitiy paid for most of his unique ships so I think there very much is a price on everything in EVE.
Even if he paid for them at one point, they are one-of-a-kind, and therefore, any price can be set. Thus, priceless. ---
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Verone
I'd say both Entity and Istvaan have to be two of the richest around.
They both own at least one unique hulled ship (Megathron Federate Issue and Apocalypse Imperial Issue respectively.) In terms of cost, you can't put a price on them they're so valuable.
I thought Tyrrax lost his Impoc a long time ago? Also I believe Entitiy paid for most of his unique ships so I think there very much is a price on everything in EVE.
Tyrrax and Istvaan are two different people, when Tyrrax lost his Impoc, Istvaan's, named "Chorus Of Angels" became the only one left in player hands.
And no, Entity didn't buy his Fedathron, it was given to him by Madcap Magician when he left the game to add to his item collection. Madcap stole it from DigitalCommunist a couple of years back, along with an Ishtar BPO before kicking him from [FZN].
As for the other ships that Entity bought, the State Raven, Tribal Tempest etc, there's more than one of these, so they're not unique hulls, therefore you can put a price on them.
How do you put a price on something that's one of a kind in it's existance?
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zomiaen
Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Verone
I'd say both Entity and Istvaan have to be two of the richest around.
They both own at least one unique hulled ship (Megathron Federate Issue and Apocalypse Imperial Issue respectively.) In terms of cost, you can't put a price on them they're so valuable.
I thought Tyrrax lost his Impoc a long time ago? Also I believe Entitiy paid for most of his unique ships so I think there very much is a price on everything in EVE.
Even if he paid for them at one point, they are one-of-a-kind, and therefore, any price can be set. Thus, priceless.
What he said. Those ships were purchased a while ago. At this point, with so much wealth in Eve, they can ask whatever they want for them.
Remember, there was a time when Guardian Vexor's were fairly easy to get. Now they go for billions. These truly unique ships could sell for trillions if the owners wanted.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Taius Pax
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zomiaen
Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Verone
I'd say both Entity and Istvaan have to be two of the richest around.
They both own at least one unique hulled ship (Megathron Federate Issue and Apocalypse Imperial Issue respectively.) In terms of cost, you can't put a price on them they're so valuable.
I thought Tyrrax lost his Impoc a long time ago? Also I believe Entitiy paid for most of his unique ships so I think there very much is a price on everything in EVE.
Even if he paid for them at one point, they are one-of-a-kind, and therefore, any price can be set. Thus, priceless.
Priceless means the value cannot be estimated because there is no calculable market value (usually because there's a tiny market or only a few items or a one of a kind item). Priceless doesn't mean there isn't an upper limit to what someone would be willing to pay, that's based entirely on how much someone desires it and how much value tied to other things they're willing to give up having in exchange for that one item.
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Taius Pax
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Posted - 2008.07.08 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog Remember, there was a time when Guardian Vexor's were fairly easy to get. Now they go for billions. These truly unique ships could sell for trillions if the owners wanted.
I think you'll find the number of people willing to pay trillions for a Guardian-Vexor to be near zero. They generally sell between 10-20 bil. Several have been on contract lately in the 15-20 bil range that did not sell.
Ships like that are really only valuable as a collector's piece. There really isn't that big of an advantage to something like the Guardian-Vexor (Ishtar is superior). The cost if it pops is painful. I guess if you're looking at something like the Fed Issue Megathron, it's better than anything in it's class, but are you really going to use it? (Ok, there's the counter example of the Gold Magnate, but look what happened to it).
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.07.08 06:27:00 -
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I'm being a bit of a troll since Verone said you can't put a price on a ship when some of these unique or 3-4 ships in existance have been sold.
Despite me being a huge homo, I am guessing that Entity's page on unique ships is out of date? --
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.07.08 06:44:00 -
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Edited by: Riho on 08/07/2008 06:46:20 Entity or Istavaan
entity holds few of the unique ships ingame that are pretty much priceless
Istavaan hold also atleast one of that kind of ships + he has other ways of income :P
Kathred (i think thats what hes name is) should be up there too. he hold a insane amount of t2 BPOs... ofc hes value dropped abit when invention came but hes still quite high.
1 billion is soo easy i to get these days if you got bit of brain power.
Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Verone
I'd say both Entity and Istvaan have to be two of the richest around.
They both own at least one unique hulled ship (Megathron Federate Issue and Apocalypse Imperial Issue respectively.) In terms of cost, you can't put a price on them they're so valuable.
I thought Tyrrax lost his Impoc a long time ago? Also I believe Entitiy paid for most of his unique ships so I think there very much is a price on everything in EVE.
Fed issue mega got stolen from the owner and got given to entity if i remember correct.
and yes.. tyrrax lost hes impoc... so now istavaan is the only one left whit a impoc (there was 4 impocs to start whit i think) ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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auvernin
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Posted - 2008.07.08 06:45:00 -
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Well it has been proven by experiment that you can make 300 bil a year in EVE while having a job and a significant other, not living in your mother's basement at the same time, and not breaking the EULA by using macros of any kind. So about 4 years of this say you go through 200 bil worth of ships in the meantime, and you got your 1 tril. However, once you hit a few dozen bil you will realize that there is little need to have that much money simply sitting in your wallet so you will feel an itch to start spending or investing it or just doing something to not have it lie around.
Most people however would grow bored of EVE well before hitting 1 tril. Having that much ISK has that side effect that pvp becomes way less risky (what's losing one tech II fitted battleship if you can fund another 200 of those?) and the game loses its thrill. As one of my pirate friends said, he doesn't engage in some of the activities that he knows will bring him a lot of ISK, because when he tried it piracy just started losing its appeal, adrenaline rushes are way smaller, and he felt like quitting EVE.
It would be indeed a rare player to have 1 trillion ISK in wallet in liquid and not grow bored of the game at the same time. Entity put his ISK into collecting rare EVE items, however, great majority of EVE players would never be interested in following this road.
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Bai ZongTong
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Posted - 2008.07.08 06:47:00 -
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how do those people manage to make this money money!? o.o
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auvernin
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Posted - 2008.07.08 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bai ZongTong how do those people manage to make this money money!? o.o
by using their brainzzz and not doing what every other joe shmoe is doing out there to make ISK
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.07.08 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: Riho on 08/07/2008 06:53:27
Originally by: Vaal Erit I'm being a bit of a troll since Verone said you can't put a price on a ship when some of these unique or 3-4 ships in existance have been sold.
Despite me being a huge homo, I am guessing that Entity's page on unique ships is out of date?
why do you think its out of date... seems right to me
Originally by: Bai ZongTong how do those people manage to make this money money!? o.o
i dont make 100s of billions but i make enough to get me t2 fit BSs + hac and recons to pvp.... whitout never haveing to worry about running out of isk :P
the trick is to think of ways to get isk that many ppl are not doing. i stopped mission running a long time ago as it makes very little isk per hour. mining i have not even done :P
so think of ways you can make isk faster and alot more :=) ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.08 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mauhrin Boda I've also been hearing about people with wallets topping 1 billion ISK.
One month of smart trading can get you there from next to nothing. Or a week of intense L4 mission-running. Or any other number of things.
Quote: Has anyone ever topped 1 trillion?
Plenty of people could, if they really wanted. Several have, for sure.
Quote: A better question yet: how in the world does anyone make that kind of money?!
By not making it yourself, but relying on other people's lazyness, carelessness or general stupidity to make it for you. Trading, scamming, running a bussiness relying on others to do the gruntwork... a lot of possibilities.
Of course, most people, like me, when they reach a certain wallet level, they get complacent and don't bother much anymore. Others feel the need to hoard and multiply every last bit of ISK they can get their hands on - so they do just that for as long as they can, and the best they can.
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Lord Meriak
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Posted - 2008.07.08 07:03:00 -
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Rich in close friends of eve Does that count
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Fink Angel
Caldari The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.07.08 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bai ZongTong how do those people manage to make this money money!? o.o
Chribba made his fortune in sweet, sweet Veldspar.
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Ralara
Caldari Vivicide
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Posted - 2008.07.08 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mauhrin Boda Edited by: Mauhrin Boda on 08/07/2008 05:05:49 Hey, I am a bit of a newb and this is my first post on the EVE forums, and this is just a random question that popped into my head.
I've also been hearing about people with wallets topping 1 billion ISK. Has anyone ever topped 1 trillion?
A better question yet: how in the world does anyone make that kind of money?!
1 billion isk is nothing.
There's probably more than a thousand people with more than 50b in their wallets, a few hundred with over 100b (talking liquid isk here).
Trillion... I dunno if a single person has done it - it wouldn't surprise me in the least. There's certainly people with assets over 5 trillion isk. --
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.08 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 08/07/2008 07:30:11
Originally by: Mauhrin Boda Edited by: Mauhrin Boda on 08/07/2008 05:05:49 Hey, I am a bit of a newb and this is my first post on the EVE forums, and this is just a random question that popped into my head.
I've also been hearing about people with wallets topping 1 billion ISK. Has anyone ever topped 1 trillion?
A better question yet: how in the world does anyone make that kind of money?!
An L4 runner can pull in 10mil to 20mil an hour. If they are any good at it the only costs will be ammunition. Even a casual player like myself can pull down 100mil a week. If I'm actually trying to make money and use the funds to play the market I can easily hit 500mil a week.
I generally keep my wallet above 10bil and probably have several more billion in assets scattered around.
But I'm not 'rich'. I'd just say 'independantly wealthy'.
But I can't be bothered to get more money now. I have enough to cover emergencies and money 'in the bank' in Eve is wasteful because you don't earn interest. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.07.08 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Verone As for the other ships that Entity bought, the State Raven, Tribal Tempest etc, there's more than one of these, so they're not unique hulls, therefore you can put a price on them.
How do you put a price on something that's one of a kind in it's existance?
Interesting proposal. There are 2 Opux Luxury Yachts currently in existence on TQ. How much is each of those worth? Zzz research towers Direrie NEW: Liekuri
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.08 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Andrue money 'in the bank' in Eve is wasteful because you don't earn interest.
Well, actually... almost, but not quite.
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Spineker
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.08 08:41:00 -
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Whoever is richest is because CCP allowed special ones to hold a monopoly over T2 item production and such for years.
So they didn't earn it they were just "special"
I have a handful of billions but it was all work no damn monopoly or suckering fools into a corp and alliance to pay to play or getting T2 BPO from "friends"
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.07.08 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Spineker Whoever is richest is because CCP allowed special ones to hold a monopoly over T2 item production and such for years.
So they didn't earn it they were just "special"
I have a handful of billions but it was all work no damn monopoly or suckering fools into a corp and alliance to pay to play or getting T2 BPO from "friends"
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ShardowRhino
Caldari Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.07.08 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Verone
I'd say both Entity and Istvaan have to be two of the richest around.
They both own at least one unique hulled ship (Megathron Federate Issue and Apocalypse Imperial Issue respectively.) In terms of cost, you can't put a price on them they're so valuable.
I thought Tyrrax lost his Impoc a long time ago? Also I believe Entitiy paid for most of his unique ships so I think there very much is a price on everything in EVE.
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