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Delign	Posted - 2008.07.09 14:05:00 - [31] Those with the lines of carebears and they aren't doing anything they aren't affecting you. This ones for you. No they aren't affecting anyone until they come back from afk and proceed to take their victims that are aware they've been sat in the system for 4-6 hours. If everyone was to treat these afk'ers as no threat then that's at least 1 free kill a day that they get with nothing that the victim can do to prepare but being in another system, or not doing anything in that system but being ready to pvp. Yes they don't do 'anything' except make particular systems no go areas, or at least don't operate in areas as people do not want to be the victim when the afker returns. It should not be a function of the game that those not at the keyboard can affect those at it with their presence. Call names all you like but I don't see why the guy that mines the mineral to build your ships should be the afkers victim with no pre-warning whatsoever to take preventative measures, apart from not be there. I shouldn't be the one not being there, the afker should be the one not being there.
Arvald Caldari Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.07.09 14:13:00 - [32] cloaked ships (reffering to the ones that are not ment to cloak) ant move warp lock shoot deploy drones rep armor reload ammo change ammo anything but sit there realy and afk cloakers......well.......their afk so i realy dont see the problem Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw Stealthbomber combat (or as i like to call it: Just because you *are* paranoid don't mean there isnt a invisible demon about to eat your face)
Haurian Zealot	Posted - 2008.07.09 14:22:00 - [33] Originally by: Worick Originally by: Odre Echee Originally by: Astria Tiphareth ...Lets try AFK interceptors! Set course for nearest star, maximum speed, MWD on! Try probing that down in time to catch something going 6-9 km/s. Hurrah, we probed it down! No, wait, it's already 100km off! But there will be a faster ceptor in System. So there is a possible chance to take out the AFK-ceptor. I would prefer that method ;) Catch my gistii a-type, hg snake, poly II, OD II crusader (btw i have acceleration control 5)
Haurian Commando Gallente Outdated Host Productions	Posted - 2008.07.09 14:26:00 - [34] Originally by: Arvald cloaked ships (reffering to the ones that are not ment to cloak) ant move warp lock shoot deploy drones rep armor reload ammo change ammo anything but sit there realy and afk cloakers......well.......their afk so i realy dont see the problem All cloaked ships can move, just those without bonuses move vvvvvveeeeerrrrrryyyyyy sssslllloooooooooooowwwwwwlllllyyyyy Bombers and blackops can't warp cloaked. Other than those two points, the rest affect all cloaked ships. --- My Mod autograph collection. Mods, please sign here! --- Please transfer the agreed amount to my Swiss bank account - Mitnal
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.09 14:56:00 - [35] Originally by: Delign If everyone was to treat these afk'ers as no threat then that's at least 1 free kill a day that they get with nothing that the victim can do to prepare but being in another system, or not doing anything in that system but being ready to pvp. They could watch the scanner. Originally by: Delign Yes they don't do 'anything' except make particular systems no go areas, or at least don't operate in areas as people do not want to be the victim when the afker returns. They do that to themselves. All of 0.0 is a no go area if you aren't willing to take precautions. Originally by: Delign It should not be a function of the game that those not at the keyboard can affect those at it with their presence. It's not. They can only affect you when they get back. The rest is in your head. Its all moot anyway, as a cloaking nerf is pointless. Removing them would solve these 'issues', but they are too minor to remove a whole module over. Putting a time limit on it or some such merely means the AFKer has to push a button once every once in a while. That just narrows it down to people still in the same room as the computer while AFKing. I could do that from work if I wanted to. - DesuSigs
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.09 15:43:00 - [36] There are two other forums on which this gets posted every other day, find them. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Xeronn Amarr Ordo Drakonis Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.09 15:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Ryoji Tanakama Originally by: Pink Rabid I have shown support myself for ideas that make AFK playing more difficult, but the thread is usually taken over by those that will flame without any true argument why AFK playing should continue to be supported. I think your idea could be overly complicated though - simply making a character disconnect after 15 minutes of non activity (lack of interaction with the interface) would be sufficient, and in line with other games. It would also prevent AFK docking. Alternatively AFK cloaking could be prevented by making the module require manual reactivation after a period of time - as long as the player is at the PC it would not reveal them. I don't think people should be able to play EVE without being sat at their PC, but from experience this thread will be taken over by those who think otherwise but can't quite manage a reasonable argument in their favour Problem is such changes would affect people that are perfectly positioned at their PC, using their cloak to hide from you. So you're nerfing one persons survivability to get at another person that isn't even actively playing. I smell spin on this one. good boint but really do you find it normal/balanced for ships to have "I`m 100% safe in space button?" So you think the person at his PC that hits the cloak buton should be perfectly safe untill he decides to uncloak? There are no mods in EvE that make you totaly safe except cloaks . Umm...and stations...but that`s a different story
Xeronn Amarr Ordo Drakonis Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.09 16:01:00 - [38] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Delign If everyone was to treat these afk'ers as no threat then that's at least 1 free kill a day that they get with nothing that the victim can do to prepare but being in another system, or not doing anything in that system but being ready to pvp. They could watch the scanner. Originally by: Delign Yes they don't do 'anything' except make particular systems no go areas, or at least don't operate in areas as people do not want to be the victim when the afker returns. They do that to themselves. All of 0.0 is a no go area if you aren't willing to take precautions. Originally by: Delign It should not be a function of the game that those not at the keyboard can affect those at it with their presence. It's not. They can only affect you when they get back. The rest is in your head. Its all moot anyway, as a cloaking nerf is pointless. Removing them would solve these 'issues', but they are too minor to remove a whole module over. Putting a time limit on it or some such merely means the AFKer has to push a button once every once in a while. That just narrows it down to people still in the same room as the computer while AFKing. I could do that from work if I wanted to. You really believe your own propaganda guys? one should allways be prepared and take precautions in 0.0?! AWESSOME...now all we have to do is make cloakers do the same Cloaking&AFK isn`t precautions
Kuar Z'thain Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.09 16:03:00 - [39] I'm so glad Crumplecorn is in this thread. He has the perfect sig for this.

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