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Atesteria
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:06:00 -
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Pros and cons?
Does a dreadnought cost fuel to keep in siege mode? Can any of them do any level 4 och 5 mission?
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Valandril
Caldari Exiled. Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:08:00 -
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If you don't know which one you want, you don't need it. none of them is for carebearing. ---
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Atesteria
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:16:00 -
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why are peopel so freaking arogant in this forum.
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Drezzster
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria Pros and cons?
Does a dreadnought cost fuel to keep in siege mode? Can any of them do any level 4 och 5 mission?
Not sure...
Kronos is the only dread that could possibly do lvl5's solo due to drone bay. Carrier I believe is the way to go if you want to try and solo missions.
Siege is a baaaad idea, you will be a sitting duck for any pirate and his homies that happen to scan you down.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:21:00 -
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Formula One vs Top Fuel dragster
Pros and cons?
Does a Top Fuel dragster cost fuel to keep running while I make a quick trip into the bank? Can any of them haul stuff while I do errands around town and drive to and from work?
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Atesteria
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Drezzster
Originally by: Atesteria Pros and cons?
Does a dreadnought cost fuel to keep in siege mode? Can any of them do any level 4 och 5 mission?
Not sure...
Kronos is the only dread that could possibly do lvl5's solo due to drone bay. Carrier I believe is the way to go if you want to try and solo missions.
Siege is a baaaad idea, you will be a sitting duck for any pirate and his homies that happen to scan you down.
Kronos is a maruauder i was talking about Moros. but i think you know what i mean.
does moros cost anything to be in siege mode or flying it. Dont you need a lot of firepower to be abel to take a moros down
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Matrixcvd
Caldari Rionnag Alba The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria why are peopel so freaking arogant in this forum.
because if you haven't played long enough, you ask questions like this. And if you have to ask questions like this you shouldn't be flying the ships.
Moral of the story, don't max the credit card out buying GTCs for a Cap pilot and cap ship, just to fit it with T1, fly it into a blackhole and get ganked while becoming the laughin stock of eve for all of 2 seconds while we wait for the next fail capital fit. Cap boosters and shield extender I's for the chimera anyone?
or come play near me and i can gank you, either way, your asking which way does the gun barrel point and you want to get dropped onto the beach at normandy. Fly your T1, skill up, then these questions will become, DUH!
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:31:00 -
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Dreadnought because all the pirates will be scared of it and warp off if they see you and wont attack you in it.
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria
Originally by: Drezzster
Originally by: Atesteria Pros and cons?
Does a dreadnought cost fuel to keep in siege mode? Can any of them do any level 4 och 5 mission?
Not sure...
Kronos is the only dread that could possibly do lvl5's solo due to drone bay. Carrier I believe is the way to go if you want to try and solo missions.
Siege is a baaaad idea, you will be a sitting duck for any pirate and his homies that happen to scan you down.
Kronos is a maruauder i was talking about Moros. but i think you know what i mean.
does moros cost anything to be in siege mode or flying it. Dont you need a lot of firepower to be abel to take a moros down
You need some firepower, yeah, but you can bet as soon as people find you trying to do a mission, firepower will arrive shortly.
As far as the arrogance in the forum, meh, it's a forum. You'll always find that, heh. For the most part I think people are trying to help out by encouraging people with low skills/new to the game not to fly expensive ships until they know how the game works. Sometimes it's taken a bit far imho, and you'll find protectionist carebears encouraging people not to do level 4's until they have 10 million SP or something silly. But here, I think it's fair to say that you shouldn't be buying a carrier or a dread, and in any case they aren't meant for missioning.
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Atesteria
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well
Originally by: Atesteria
Originally by: Drezzster
Originally by: Atesteria Pros and cons?
Does a dreadnought cost fuel to keep in siege mode? Can any of them do any level 4 och 5 mission?
Not sure...
Kronos is the only dread that could possibly do lvl5's solo due to drone bay. Carrier I believe is the way to go if you want to try and solo missions.
Siege is a baaaad idea, you will be a sitting duck for any pirate and his homies that happen to scan you down.
Kronos is a maruauder i was talking about Moros. but i think you know what i mean.
does moros cost anything to be in siege mode or flying it. Dont you need a lot of firepower to be abel to take a moros down
You need some firepower, yeah, but you can bet as soon as people find you trying to do a mission, firepower will arrive shortly.
As far as the arrogance in the forum, meh, it's a forum. You'll always find that, heh. For the most part I think people are trying to help out by encouraging people with low skills/new to the game not to fly expensive ships until they know how the game works. Sometimes it's taken a bit far imho, and you'll find protectionist carebears encouraging people not to do level 4's until they have 10 million SP or something silly. But here, I think it's fair to say that you shouldn't be buying a carrier or a dread, and in any case they aren't meant for missioning.
So if pirate scan 5-6 dreadnoguth or 5-6 carriers or a combo of the 2 sorths they will attack?
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Atesteria
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Matrixcvd
Originally by: Atesteria why are peopel so freaking arogant in this forum.
because if you haven't played long enough, you ask questions like this. And if you have to ask questions like this you shouldn't be flying the ships.
Moral of the story, don't max the credit card out buying GTCs for a Cap pilot and cap ship, just to fit it with T1, fly it into a blackhole and get ganked while becoming the laughin stock of eve for all of 2 seconds while we wait for the next fail capital fit. Cap boosters and shield extender I's for the chimera anyone?
or come play near me and i can gank you, either way, your asking which way does the gun barrel point and you want to get dropped onto the beach at normandy. Fly your T1, skill up, then these questions will become, DUH!
LOL i am a nice bear but I would be a ****** flying in priate space with my nice sweet dominix. Also 700mill for a carrier dosent take that long to gather togeather.
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Yohanes Flame
Burning Sky Labs
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:47:00 -
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Carriers or Dreads without support ships = dead.
Carrier or Dread in a mission = free pirate loot. ____________________________ Point Zero Corp
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria why are peopel so freaking arogant in this forum.
simple. because you are asking a ******ed stupid noobish question, that has been answered many many times.
let me lay it out for you.
if you are mission runner you don't need them. if your corp doesn't operate in 0.0 or low sec, you don't need them. if you are a solo player, you really have almost no use for them. if you need to ask "whats better, carrier or dreadnought", like you just did, then you don't need them doing mission in them is pointless, unless level 5 missions... but for that you need a good corp to protect the carrier/dread. this means its still not a solo boat.
carriers and dread require a good corp. they are not solo ships. by the time you feel that you need them you will already know what is better for what. ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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Solid Trust
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:48:00 -
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People usually start out with a Carrier as they are much more versatile. A Dread is mainly for POS warefare.
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Riho on 09/07/2008 14:49:12
Originally by: Atesteria
So if pirate scan 5-6 dreadnoguth or 5-6 carriers or a combo of the 2 sorths they will attack?
yep :) i sure as hell would :D
EDIT: and then call all my friend to get easy kills :P ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:48:00 -
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The first question you need to ask is do level 5 missions have acceleration gates? If so, scratch your idea of using capitals. Most level 4's have gates, and so you'll be limited to doing The Blockade and a few others, and then only if you bother to jump into the system where the mission is located. The second question is whether it's really worth your time to jump your capitals to the mission system every time. As far as pirates, 5 unsupported carriers/dreads are out of the range of some gangs, but don't get it in your head that you can't be killed, heh. And at the end of the day, you have to ask is this remotely worth the cash you'll spend and risk. The answer should be no. 
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Valandril
Caldari Exiled. Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.09 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria why are peopel so freaking arogant in this forum.
Arogant ? Stupid ? Bad mannered ? Thanks, that's my names. And my post pretty much sumarize your question, because this is "teh truth". And with all this, you didn't bother using eve-search, coz this question was asked 38972853895384759346578 times. ---
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Caffeine Junkie
2 Guys In Motherships
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Posted - 2008.07.09 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria Pros and cons?
Does a dreadnought cost fuel to keep in siege mode? Can any of them do any level 4 och 5 mission?
You want a carrier, dreads are for POS sieging / kill caps. Carrier is one of the most useful all round ships to be able to fly.
Nothing special, not big or clever, just 20 fighters and one hell of a tank.... |

Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria
So if pirate scan 5-6 dreadnoguth or 5-6 carriers or a combo of the 2 sorths they will attack?
It's likely to attract anyone in for a laugh in a 15-25 jumps radius. Nothing make people run as fast as hearing "capital tackled", and by running I mean toward the tackled capital. -- Coming to you, Assault Ships fix, by the people saying that the Gallente Recons are fine. |

Atlanticpyro
The Space BorderLine Diabolic Paradox
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:09:00 -
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Carrier is best for missions as long as you fit with faction/ officer moduals. Will make lvl 5's a brease.
P.S. Where will you be running missions?? |

bluebeyond
DEATHFUNK R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:21:00 -
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Someones been taking stupid pills.
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Arvald
Caldari Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria why are peopel so freaking arogant in this forum.
he is giving very good advice, capital ships are for destroying other cap/supercap ships and sieging pos/outposts, not much use other than that
Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw Stealthbomber combat (or as i like to call it: Just because you are paranoid don't mean there isnt a invisible demon about to eat your face)
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:09:00 -
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Dont run missions in either one.
Yes the dread uses fuel.
The difference is the dread is used for anti pos and anti cpital, whereas the carrier is used for anti everything else.
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Caffeine Junkie
2 Guys In Motherships
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
The difference is the dread is used for anti pos and anti cpital, whereas the carrier is used for anti everything else.
And both die a whole lot easier than you would have thought.
Nothing special, not big or clever, just 20 fighters and one hell of a tank.... |

Gimpb
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:23:00 -
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A carrier might be useful for a few Lv5s that allow it, but caps really aren't missions ships. You can tank Lv5s with much lighter ships and a carrier doesn't really dps any better than some of the nicer mission BS fits.
As for a dread, the moros does have nice drone dps but siege mode would be pretty much worthless in a mission. You wouldn't hit jack.
Using a cap in a mission also makes you a big target for anyone roaming through, not just pirates, and even a cap could potentially get taken down by one of those missions that has a bunch of nasty neuters if mistakes are made.
So in short, pick the right tools for the job, dreads are for shooting caps and posses, carriers are for general logistics and support... neither is a great mission ship.
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Mini Timmy
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow Dreadnought because all the pirates will be scared of it and warp off if they see you and wont attack you in it.
stop hogging all the dread kills gneez 
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La5eR
Amarr Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:05:00 -
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Well, with all the folks palatherin about nothing and flaming about everything. I am going to answer the question to the best of my ability.
Dreads are great for 1 shotting stationary targets but suck for moving ones unless going under 50m/s and are at least 100k away from you. They have a sizeable tank and are great for hauling things jump-freighter style.
Carriers are the same way but have no minimal range limit due to their ability to throw out lots of drones.
Those are just some very brief aspects of the two. But as said above you shouldnt use them for doing missions/ratting/plexing EVER. These ships are meant for corp-to-corp, alliance-to-alliance, or cap ship warfare. If you dont have the skills to run level IV's or greater in a BS class ship or lower spend the next 6 months working on your skills but work for tanking first as a dead ship is a lost ship, after that work on your weapon skills.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:25:00 -
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I miss the times where Capitals could go through accel gates. All those Carriers in Annacale farming L4s, just waiting to be probed down...  ...
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria why are peopel so freaking arogant in this forum.
Because people look at their skillpoints total and their killboard score and get a superiority complex. They also spend so much time of their no-life gathering so much knowledge about the game that they feel the need to come here and brag about them knowing it all and you being 'a noob that ask pointless questions and dont deserve to be in a carrier or even think about getting one eventually'.
Thats basically why. I didn't bought an account, know pretty much all about the game and those guys still makes me want to puke.
And I'd say the carrier is the most versatile of the two. The other just shoots POS and capital ships.
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.09 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Caffeine Junkie
Originally by: goodby4u
The difference is the dread is used for anti pos and anti cpital, whereas the carrier is used for anti everything else.
And both die a whole lot easier than you would have thought.
What is that suppose to mean? I was just answering his question.
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Serafina Palacios
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.09 20:35:00 -
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Carrier=fun dread=boring
but that's just me. (and carriers in general look way better than dreads) -----SIG----- Serafina Palacios former Major in the Republic cadre. now wanted for treason, teft of carde ships and documents and murder of cadre personnel. |

Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.07.09 20:40:00 -
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i run level 4 missions in my phoenix all the time, siege mode makes it a cinch. just bring lots of fuel!! ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.09 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Serafina Palacios Carrier=boring dread=extremely boring
fixed ...
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Lelulie
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.07.09 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Serafina Palacios Carrier=boring dread=extremely boring
fixed
depends on your corp ------------------------------------ |

DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.07.09 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 09/07/2008 23:38:53 Look the people saying "if you don't already know then you aren't ready to fly either" aren't being arrogant. They are stating a plain and simple fact. Carriers and Dreadnoughts have increadably different uses and can't even be compared. If you knew where to even begin using a capital then you wouldn't be asking this question in the first place. If you buy a carrier/dread you will die very quickly, and i can guarentee it. Trust me when we say this. You will be doing yourself a favor by not using them yet.
P.S. Don't treat us like the bad guys for pointing out your own inexperience and unreadiness to fly a capital. Trust me when I say this. The asswholes are the ones telling you to fly a carrier/dread because chances are they already know what will happen to you if you do. _______________
ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR |

Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.09 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria
So if pirate scan 5-6 dreadnoguth or 5-6 carriers or a combo of the 2 sorths they will attack?
Every pirate within 35 jumps would band together to kill them. Dreadnaughts are only good for killing capitals and pos. And before you ay Remote Rep Carrier, every pirate owns or has a friend who is able to log in a falcon alt, so remote reps just wont happen. --
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.07.09 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: Atesteria
So if pirate scan 5-6 dreadnoguth or 5-6 carriers or a combo of the 2 sorths they will attack?
Every pirate within 35 jumps would band together to kill them. Dreadnaughts are only good for killing capitals and pos. And before you ay Remote Rep Carrier, every pirate owns or has a friend who is able to log in a falcon alt, so remote reps just wont happen.
This.
P.S. Does your group of dreads/carriers plan on moving through venal any time soon? I'm sure SoV would love to try our luck against that group. _______________
ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR |

Ralara
Caldari Vivicide
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Posted - 2008.07.10 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Atesteria
Originally by: Boz Well
Originally by: Atesteria
Originally by: Drezzster
Originally by: Atesteria Pros and cons?
Does a dreadnought cost fuel to keep in siege mode? Can any of them do any level 4 och 5 mission?
Not sure...
Kronos is the only dread that could possibly do lvl5's solo due to drone bay. Carrier I believe is the way to go if you want to try and solo missions.
Siege is a baaaad idea, you will be a sitting duck for any pirate and his homies that happen to scan you down.
Kronos is a maruauder i was talking about Moros. but i think you know what i mean.
does moros cost anything to be in siege mode or flying it. Dont you need a lot of firepower to be abel to take a moros down
You need some firepower, yeah, but you can bet as soon as people find you trying to do a mission, firepower will arrive shortly.
As far as the arrogance in the forum, meh, it's a forum. You'll always find that, heh. For the most part I think people are trying to help out by encouraging people with low skills/new to the game not to fly expensive ships until they know how the game works. Sometimes it's taken a bit far imho, and you'll find protectionist carebears encouraging people not to do level 4's until they have 10 million SP or something silly. But here, I think it's fair to say that you shouldn't be buying a carrier or a dread, and in any case they aren't meant for missioning.
So if pirate scan 5-6 dreadnoguth or 5-6 carriers or a combo of the 2 sorths they will attack?
Hell if I found a lone carrier I'd attack it.
If you have a PvP gang (or pirate, if you prefer) and they see 4-5 cap ships without a 30 man support fleet near it, hell yeah they'll attack you and they'll kill them. --
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RayBanJockey
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Posted - 2008.07.10 08:36:00 -
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People take things way too seriously. Those who say "if you have to ask then you're not ready" I think a probably the ones who shouldn't be flying capital ships - ie. the ones who seem to hold EVE computer game money and pixelised ships to have some emotional value and are a bit too afraid to get down to business and play the darn game. Either that, or they suddenly had god him/herself bestow them with Capital Ship Insight one morning while scratching their ass in the shower and thus automatically belong to an exlusive cadre of super-elites that are worthy of flying carriers. I lawl in your general direction tbh.
What happens if you buy a super expensive ship and haven't mastered the skills for it? Worst case scenario; it gets blown up. That's all. Or you might even survive *gasp* long enough to learn how to use it. Either way you'll probably have some fun in EVE.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.07.10 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: RayBanJockey People take things way too seriously. Those who say "if you have to ask then you're not ready" I think a probably the ones who shouldn't be flying capital ships - ie. the ones who seem to hold EVE computer game money and pixelised ships to have some emotional value and are a bit too afraid to get down to business and play the darn game. Either that, or they suddenly had god him/herself bestow them with Capital Ship Insight one morning while scratching their ass in the shower and thus automatically belong to an exlusive cadre of super-elites that are worthy of flying carriers. I lawl in your general direction tbh.
What happens if you buy a super expensive ship and haven't mastered the skills for it? Worst case scenario; it gets blown up. That's all. Or you might even survive *gasp* long enough to learn how to use it. Either way you'll probably have some fun in EVE.
Please excuse me while my head explodes.
I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them. |

Cheenie
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Posted - 2008.07.10 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: RayBanJockey Attempting to justify my ebay with an alt
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RayBanJockey
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Posted - 2008.07.10 10:49:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Cheenie
Originally by: RayBanJockey Attempting to justify my ebay with an alt
I have nothing to do with the OP at all. Please unplug your keyboard and step away from your computer before you say more stupid things, thx.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.07.10 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: RayBanJockey People take things way too seriously. Those who say "if you have to ask then you're not ready" I think a probably the ones who shouldn't be flying capital ships - ie. the ones who seem to hold EVE computer game money and pixelised ships to have some emotional value and are a bit too afraid to get down to business and play the darn game. Either that, or they suddenly had god him/herself bestow them with Capital Ship Insight one morning while scratching their ass in the shower and thus automatically belong to an exlusive cadre of super-elites that are worthy of flying carriers. I lawl in your general direction tbh.
What happens if you buy a super expensive ship and haven't mastered the skills for it? Worst case scenario; it gets blown up. That's all. Or you might even survive *gasp* long enough to learn how to use it. Either way you'll probably have some fun in EVE.
only people who would have fun in that situation are the gankers. ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.10 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 09/07/2008 23:38:53 Look the people saying "if you don't already know then you aren't ready to fly either" aren't being arrogant. They are stating a plain and simple fact. Carriers and Dreadnoughts have increadably different uses and can't even be compared. If you knew where to even begin using a capital then you wouldn't be asking this question in the first place. If you buy a carrier/dread you will die very quickly, and i can guarentee it. Trust me when we say this. You will be doing yourself a favor by not using them yet.
P.S. Don't treat us like the bad guys for pointing out your own inexperience and unreadiness to fly a capital. Trust me when I say this. The asswholes are the ones telling you to fly a carrier/dread because chances are they already know what will happen to you if you do.
Wrong, in a sense we protect them.
We protect them from the probability that they'll lose it due to sheer lack of information, and that's a very signifiant cost.
We protect them from the damage their repuation will take if, or rather when, they lose it due to terrible fitting, like trying to passive-tank them, and the like.
Capital ships aren't like a cruiser. There's tons of things you can fly decently with a general knownledge of game mechanic. but a cap ship require quite a lot of specific knowledge, like jumping, and part of that knowledge is knowning the pros and cons of your ship class.
Also, they're a pretty steep SP requirment for flying carriers and dreads. That means dedication, and a dedicaced pilot is supposed to know exactly what goal he's trying to reach... ------------------------------------------
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ZephyrLexx
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Posted - 2008.07.10 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: RayBanJockey People take things way too seriously. Those who say "if you have to ask then you're not ready" I think a probably the ones who shouldn't be flying capital ships - ie. the ones who seem to hold EVE computer game money and pixelised ships to have some emotional value and are a bit too afraid to get down to business and play the darn game. Either that, or they suddenly had god him/herself bestow them with Capital Ship Insight one morning while scratching their ass in the shower and thus automatically belong to an exlusive cadre of super-elites that are worthy of flying carriers. I lawl in your general direction tbh.
What happens if you buy a super expensive ship and haven't mastered the skills for it? Worst case scenario; it gets blown up. That's all. Or you might even survive *gasp* long enough to learn how to use it. Either way you'll probably have some fun in EVE.
best thing in the whole thread
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Matrixcvd
Caldari Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.07.10 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: Atesteria why are peopel so freaking arogant in this forum.
Because people look at their skillpoints total and their killboard score and get a superiority complex. They also spend so much time of their no-life gathering so much knowledge about the game that they feel the need to come here and brag about them knowing it all and you being 'a noob that ask pointless questions and dont deserve to be in a carrier or even think about getting one eventually'.
Thats basically why. I didn't bought an account, know pretty much all about the game and those guys still makes me want to puke.
wow, go emo much? can't see the help a good forum spanking could have on the isk account? its all for his/her good in the end really tbqfh
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Kano Sekor
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.07.10 13:17:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Atesteria Pros and cons?
Does a dreadnought cost fuel to keep in siege mode? Can any of them do any level 4 och 5 mission?
SWEDE DETECTED! ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Sneaky Tiger
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2008.07.10 13:39:00 -
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If you care about your ISK and your reputation; if losing expencive stuff makes you cry - don't jump into capital until you know what to do with it, and how.
If you just want to experience the fullest of Eve; you don't care much about losing ships and more ships and more big ships; if you can take the laughter at your death and failure; you just want to go WHEEEEE! - go for carrier first if what you want to do is level 5's. After you lose a couple, try some dread :)
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Edriahn
Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad
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Posted - 2008.07.10 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Serafina Palacios Carrier=fun dread=boring
but that's just me. (and carriers in general look way better than dreads)
never laughted so much... 
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