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Grak Yarn
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Posted - 2008.07.12 02:19:00 -
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Edited by: Grak Yarn on 12/07/2008 02:19:03 Im not sure how to go about this, so I'll do the best I can.
In the time i've been playing EVE, I've noticed one glaring thing thats always bothered me. Despite the third bloodlines (Being Khanid, Vherokior, Achura, and Jin-Mei) having been released over two years ago, we have almost zero prime fiction concerning the societies of these groups. The Khanid being the exception, as they had prime fiction during Beta, I believe.
I am asking that the issue be raised with CCP, so that we may have a more full view of the EVE universe and its inhabitants. In particular, I find it very hard to roleplay a Vherokior without really knowing anything about Vherokior society. We have the corp description (Vherokior Tribe), the information from character creation, and the description in the information panel of the race. The Jin-Mei and the Achurans have even less then this, lacking an NPC corporation with their names.
Thankyou for reviewing this.
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Uilliam Nebel
13th Udorian Rangers
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Posted - 2008.07.12 02:24:00 -
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I support this, also add something about the Udorians (Tash-Murkon) and the Ealurians (Mysterious race mentioned on the Amarr timeline.) as well. / "Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in getting up every time we do." - Confucius, Chinese philosopher & reformer (551 BC - 479 BC.) |
Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.12 03:16:00 -
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I'm for an all out genocide ending the availability to create more characters of these additional races. Selling out to cater to the highly xenophobic asian market was a mistake to begin with. You can make the races we started with look asian enough if you try.
Where are the blonds? Whitehaired skanks doesn't count.
How about it CCP, push the PC envelop off the table and make it a real racewar.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Garion Avarr
Zero Zero Traders YTMND.
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Posted - 2008.07.12 22:44:00 -
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I don't know if there is any Jin-Mei PF at all aside from the info at character creation . . . I'm pretty sure I haven't seen any, at any rate. The Achurans actually do have some PF from missions, though I don't know how much. Some of the RP community has done a great job in building upon what little there is and inventing stuff that seems to fit -- I would hope that CCP incorporates much of their work if they expand the official PF. Actually, in general I'd like to see official stories incorporate ideas that the RP community has developed.
In any event, while it is sometimes nice to not have one's race be completely described and thus have some freedom in how you depict them, and that goes along with the philosophy of Eve being 'a sandbox,' it certainly would be nice to have at least a little more info about some of the races, both playable and not (with priority being given to the playable races that don't have much existing background). ________________________________ This is not a signature. |
Aloriana Jacques
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.07.13 12:20:00 -
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- - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
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Ravin Abai
Cruoris Seraphim
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Posted - 2008.07.13 14:45:00 -
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The news/chronicle writers have been doing a great job lately turning out a ton of stuff.
It would be cool if they could publish some articles about the new bloodlines.
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Chiang TseTong
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Posted - 2008.07.14 03:08:00 -
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Here here! ------------- -- Science is the true gateway to the future. It and technology are the only things which will push back the madness that lies outside civilization. |
Talaris EveningStar
The Torchwood Institute Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.07.14 03:10:00 -
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Agreed. This is a pretty important part of the game, especially with so many khanid and achuran players involved in major RP. ---
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Kiralen Wraith
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Posted - 2008.07.14 03:14:00 -
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/signed /sealed /delivered /me sings, 'I'm yours!'
Erm, Seriously though, I would love to get a little more than the bare basics for the Khanid/Achur bloodlines. (Of course the other two 3rd bloodlines, but I'm a little biased XD)
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Kiona Veline
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Posted - 2008.07.14 03:16:00 -
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/sign
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Akikio Lankinen
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.07.14 03:19:00 -
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Yes, Achura need some love
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Vreena
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.07.14 03:19:00 -
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I was told to sign this. As a proud Boma minion, I do so. -----
The above does not reflect the views and/or opinions of my corporation or alliance...well it could, but let's not be presumptuous, okay? |
Boma Airaken
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.07.14 03:39:00 -
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Edited by: Boma Airaken on 14/07/2008 03:39:35 The Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu has more intelligent and educated work put into the Achura backstory than the writers at CCP could ever hope to.We have been working on it for a solid year. We would glady get together with Ginger/Abraxas and folks to get something worked out. Shit we will even do all the work for free.
Seriously though, this is absurdly overdue, and now all we have is a bunch of Achura running around like the the Deteis version of Data from Star Trek.
The Jin-Mei are even more of a mystery, and I am sure there have to be some individuals or groups running around out there trying to create some culture. Same with the Vherokior and Khanid.
More than anything else, this just reeks of the complex fullerene shard fiasco. You have people who are working their asses off to move the storyline along or at least branch it out and get some canonical info, and you write chronicles about gallentean spraypaint afficianados.
Anything you introduce in game needs to be a much higher priority than some fantasy **** material for everyone who already got tired of roleplaying.
I fully support this initiative, but I am going to pod Grak repeatedly if this results in the loss of a years worth of both public and private storyline development.
Tread lightly, but you have my support.
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Kakizaki
Caldari Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.07.14 04:11:00 -
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/signed.
There are enough of us Achurans out there...we should have some history of our own.
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Vendrin
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.14 07:40:00 -
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More then needed.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.07.14 08:22:00 -
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Pretty please with sugar on top. More prime fiction = good, but more prime fiction with information we're all dying to know = even better. It's not just doing those that (role)play the third bloodlines a favor, but everyone who interacts with them too.
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.14 09:33:00 -
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I agree with this 100% and would like to add that what's needed is not simply the short-story style of chronicle that we've been seeing lately, but rather chronicles with actual background information such as The Crystal Boulevard, Vitoc and The Sarpati Family.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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J'Mkarr Soban
Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.07.14 12:01:00 -
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-- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work. |
Akira Ishigaru
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.07.14 20:44:00 -
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Signing this thread as it's incredibly needed!
Click here for YTZ recruitment |
Jen Oniera
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.07.14 20:47:00 -
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Signed and sealed.
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Rika I
Tomoe Laboratories Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.07.14 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Boma Airaken
The Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu has more intelligent and educated work put into the Achura backstory than the writers at CCP could ever hope to.We have been working on it for a solid year. We would glady get together with Ginger/Abraxas and folks to get something worked out. Shit we will even do all the work for free.
Seriously though, this is absurdly overdue, and now all we have is a bunch of Achura running around like the the Deteis version of Data from Star Trek.
The Jin-Mei are even more of a mystery, and I am sure there have to be some individuals or groups running around out there trying to create some culture. Same with the Vherokior and Khanid.
More than anything else, this just reeks of the complex fullerene shard fiasco. You have people who are working their asses off to move the storyline along or at least branch it out and get some canonical info, and you write chronicles about gallentean spraypaint afficianados.
Anything you introduce in game needs to be a much higher priority than some fantasy **** material for everyone who already got tired of roleplaying.
I fully support this initiative, but I am going to pod Grak repeatedly if this results in the loss of a years worth of both public and private storyline development.
Tread lightly, but you have my support.
As a slave in Boma's Nation, I am forced to agree with him.
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Bunyip
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.07.15 05:22:00 -
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/Agreed. As a player of a Vherokoir alt, I think their role is very understated (wanderers who escaped the enslavement mostly, what next?)
-Bunyip
"May all your hits be crits." - Knights of the Dinner Table. |
Allaria Kriss
Elipse Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 06:34:00 -
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The Amarr bloodline without any backstory is definitely the Ni-Kunni. That said, I would like to see more PF for ALL of the bloodlines, to differentiate them a bit. To a casual observer, the Vherokior seem very similar to the Thukker, the Achura and the Jin-Mei may very well be related, and the Ni-Kunni are almost identical to the Ammatar. What are their different cultures, beliefs, and conditions? What makes them different? Even just the little things (Like the Ni-Kunni being a formerly polygamist race) help to set them apart. The solution to this problem is simple: More little things!
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Che Biko
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Posted - 2008.07.15 11:53:00 -
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You need background info to build characters. Well, not really, but it makes it easier, at least for roleplayers.
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Tyr Vaantau
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.07.17 02:48:00 -
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/signed
more prime fiction = better. ------
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Abe Mnemeph
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:27:00 -
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+1
Is there anything in the novel? amazon is taking ages to deliver it...
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Juzika Tareyiko
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Posted - 2008.07.17 21:42:00 -
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I am new to the game and I am also fairly new at RP but I agree that there needs to be more background on the third bloodlines. For instance, my character is an Achur. So I went to the Saisio system to have a look at the planets... well, not one of them can support human life. So if the Achurs hail from there, they must have lived in domed cities and space stations. Wich means, they originated from elsewhere in the first place.
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Qing Jou
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.07.19 03:07:00 -
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/signed _____________
Begin with the function of arbitrary complexity... now feed it values |
Davion Vrynn
APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.07.20 02:54:00 -
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Much needed. *push buttan*
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Shern
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.07.20 05:23:00 -
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I'd certainly like more background info. |
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