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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.06.02 15:04:00 -
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I want ! I want!
i know what you need...
there is saying
"when people resorts to insults, its becasue they have allready lost the argument"
most of the people you claim to be 12 yr olds, do tend to post reasons and examples of why they are un happy. but you do not post anything other than smart alec insults.
why bother ? your the only person who thinks its big and clever and thats normaly the sort of thing you exspect from a child.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.06.02 16:55:00 -
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The agents role has become small. The object to obtain is now limited to small aspects to the game. I am not saying agents are useless. I am saying things about agents have been corrected. The exploits are removed. Its not an easy way of life.
Its not about the big rewards for a solo occupation. The game is changing to more of a combat role. Look at criminal standing changes as the greatest threat to any solo occupation. If an agent is in a warring corp he has to keep an eye out when in 1.0 cause even one member of the warring corp could have a gang waiting for him at his station.
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Hornymatt
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Posted - 2004.06.02 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rancid Mare
Originally by: jukriamrr
Frankly, I do not see any problem with implant missions.
I like the fact that implants are now much rarer. But it's a question of taste I believe ;)
the problem is that Kill mission do not give them and many agent now only give important kill missions.
dont mind them being less common, as long as everyone has an equaly chance of getting them.
WE ARE STILL HERE AND NONE THE WISER.
PULL YER FINGER OUT ALLREADY CCP.
Got a perception implant (basic) this weekend just gone from Fed Navy agent. These are virtually all kill missions although the implant mission itself was the inevitable payroll data run.
Was pleasantly surprised to see how much they go for now
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Drac Dragnog
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Posted - 2004.06.02 18:13:00 -
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Oh the pleasure I would love to see... oh that would be an implant ready to seed...
yes I would like kill missions fixed too, but I can wait...
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Macjac
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Posted - 2004.06.02 19:36:00 -
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but, implants are given out with kill missions. You need to go to a corp that has the level 3 agent that will give them.
Picked up a Charisma and aMemory implant last week from my agent at...but wait, you don't really want to know the corp and location, do you? That would take the remaining bit of fun out of the game!
Well, the corp is Emperor Family, and you can prolly figure out the agent
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Dray
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop
The agents role has become small. The object to obtain is now limited to small aspects to the game. I am not saying agents are useless. I am saying things about agents have been corrected. The exploits are removed. Its not an easy way of life.
Its not about the big rewards for a solo occupation. The game is changing to more of a combat role. Look at criminal standing changes as the greatest threat to any solo occupation. If an agent is in a warring corp he has to keep an eye out when in 1.0 cause even one member of the warring corp could have a gang waiting for him at his station.
this is a much better response than your first 
as for agents playing a small role im not to sure, this is my main char and i have an agent runner in empire, as do a lot of my fellow corp members and i see a lot of people doing missions, tho i have to be honest and say my agent running is for standings more than profit, but i would argue on the point of agent missions being a small aspect, as for the pvp aspect yes there is a lot going on there but mainly balancing but to say its moving towards that at the expense of everything else is doing the game a diservice, the fact that ccp want a player run economy/market shows that economics is also equally important, i think it would be fair to say the richest corps control manufacturing and of those i would say their pvp capabilities are not as good as the likes of m0o etc, this is obvious of course but what it demonstrates is the different approach people have to the game and what they want from it, i know playing the market and leading the way in manufacturing/research isnt as exciting as combat but its still an primary aim for some players.
that said i was going to label you a troll but your following post shows your not, and i would expect better from a representative of my first choice eve website for info that i cant find in game.
sorry harisdrop i couldnt resist that, now u can flame me j/k 
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:10:00 -
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Oooops I guess I should not of read the Shiva news pages they yanked. Man talk about the mass information running around my head.
Well let me say this: the patch will be awesome. The flagging and everything.
Shiva Q3; that is July - Aug. Lets say level 4 agents. They will be giving bpc of special ships. They will have dungeons to go thru. The picture I saw was a 5 stage combat warp field. Where you enter one way. The warp damping is over the 5 bases. From what I say you take a fleet with an indy in and obtain your objectives. It might even be taking over stations. Who knows it was intense reading. Now I believe if I can recall that the dungeons will be in the form of important missions. Soo it wont be every mission you fly in and get the bpc.
The problem resides in trusting gang members. Consider what has to happen. From important missions stance we all know it will take 300 missions for a positive Implant mission to drop. Using the same formula I believe you will need a group of level 4 agent runners in a specific solarsystem working the same agent. When one gets the dungeon you all go. This is vastly different than what we have to day, Solo.
Now this is a gut feeling... We might get a standing and faction balance. With level 4 I think they are going to make it harder than it is today to get a level 4 agent. Right now anyone with a level 3 can get one. Sheez I have 9.2 standing with a couple corps. They should change the value of getting standings and faction rate. soo its like really small, 0.001 for a regular mission and 0.01 for an important. Right now we just doo 200 missions and you are at level 3 with the right skills.
Well I need some asprin with all the corp changes and black market stuff and those battle cruisers having "alot" of small turret slot. I wonder if the major changes come will make players want to be jack of all trades or force a player to actually pick one thing they do best !!!!! hehehe watch out jack of all trades your fleet of empire ships will come to an end.
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:29:00 -
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I agree in principal with the idea that it should be harder to get the higher level agents, except for the fact that lower level agents are a waste of time financially. Make it too hard to get to decent pay levels and soon enough everyone will be strip mining empire for isk, which isn't far off the case already.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:49:00 -
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Toran: My friend thats the case anyway. Everything you know now will change like it did for Castor. The stripmining wont happen like you see now. It too will be figured out. Fees or something, there will be a fix to it.
Agents have to have meaning again. Being able to jump into a level 3 agent with any npc corp within a empire cause I have been working one empire the entire time should not be the case. I feel each corp within an empire should base only on work done for them.
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Scruluse
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Posted - 2004.06.07 16:58:00 -
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Rancid forgot to say "Fanboys" in his last post :P
Scruluse
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