Originally by: Roguehalo

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Can you nano Titans?

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Originally by: Roguehalo

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Can you nano Titans?

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Originally by: Hellspawn666

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One thing can stop such a massive cap fleet, and thats the servers. That many carriers/motherships dropping fighters will pretty much instant burn the server. Bare in mind the Fighters cause alot of lag as to the server it counts as much as a player so lets say each carrier has 9 fighters and MS has 15. If even just 200 of that fleet are carriers and 30 are MS then thats the server having to deal with efficvly 2500 players or more just for that fleet.

But i do what your getting at although i dislike the way you have said it, as a support player in the past the support fleet made up a large portion of the fleet as it was possible to take out small cap groups with support ships, as such caps without support = very dangouras, but nowadays with such large amounts of cap blobs there is too much lag for a support fleet so whereas the cap pilot might have 2 minutes to respond before hes dead a BS pilot has only 30 seconds, not to mention fighters going around doing their own thing.

So where is the role for support ships in largescale PVP?
Well i would say personally its been exemplified the last few days by the fact the bob cap fleet is unable to do very much due to most systems being cyno jammed. Support is the only way to kill a cyno jammed system so they still have a pretty hefty role, maybe not as integral as before but still important.

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Originally by: Zombie Network

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A large factor for Iron's success against MAX is that they can use multiple Titans of their own in cynojammed systems. It is extremely difficult to take down a cynojammer POS with a BS fleet when its defended by 2-3 Titans and a whole bunch of carriers/motherships who can put capital-reps on the jammer/each other while you are being shot at by a fully armed deathstar and could be DD'd at any time.

One or two Titans is manageable, more than that and things start getting stupid.

There is simply no way to balance a weapon that can kill hundreds of players in a single button press, the doomsday should just be completely removed and replaced with another ability that makes the Titan a monster fleet support vessel (I like the idea of setting it up as a mobile POS, giving you a capital staging area in systems where you cannot put down a POS).

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Originally by: Esmenet

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Originally by: Zombie Network

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A large factor for Iron's success against MAX is that they can use multiple Titans of their own in cynojammed systems. It is extremely difficult to take down a cynojammer POS with a BS fleet when its defended by 2-3 Titans and a whole bunch of carriers/motherships who can put capital-reps on the jammer/each other while you are being shot at by a fully armed deathstar and could be DD'd at any time.

One or two Titans is manageable, more than that and things start getting stupid.

There is simply no way to balance a weapon that can kill hundreds of players in a single button press, the doomsday should just be completely removed and replaced with another ability that makes the Titan a monster fleet support vessel (I like the idea of setting it up as a mobile POS, giving you a capital staging area in systems where you cannot put down a POS).

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Cynojammers + multiple titans will ruin 0.0 if it is allowed to continue like this.

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Originally by: Esmenet

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Cynojammers + multiple titans will ruin 0.0 if it is allowed to continue like this.

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Originally by: Ed Gein

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This sort of highlights a fundamental flaw in the whole POS warfare idea. It was expected that introducing a system that requires such tedious fuel management, and time consuming effort to assemble that it would help shrink down alliances, and kill blob warfare because alliances would be smaller. CCP stated multiple times that they wanted to shrink down alliances before POS's came out, now that epic failed, you never hear CCP mention it anymore.

This was just a matter of CCP underestimating the EVE player base. Instead, there are hardcore dedicated people out there that do nothing but maintain alliance POS's and cap ship yards. This then allowed the alliances to expand out to controlling multiple regions and defeated the purpose of POS's entirely.

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Originally by: Chronos VIII

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Originally by: Ed Gein

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This sort of highlights a fundamental flaw in the whole POS warfare idea. It was expected that introducing a system that requires such tedious fuel management, and time consuming effort to assemble that it would help shrink down alliances, and kill blob warfare because alliances would be smaller. CCP stated multiple times that they wanted to shrink down alliances before POS's came out, now that epic failed, you never hear CCP mention it anymore.

This was just a matter of CCP underestimating the EVE player base. Instead, there are hardcore dedicated people out there that do nothing but maintain alliance POS's and cap ship yards. This then allowed the alliances to expand out to controlling multiple regions and defeated the purpose of POS's entirely.

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ed haz wisdom

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Originally by: Roguehalo

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Can you nano Titans?

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