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Monsieur Escargots The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:05:00 - [1] Massive, unplayable, gamebreaking, Lag
Antodias North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:06:00 - [2] and lots and lots and lots and lots of caod poasts
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:06:00 - [3] All according to the plan from the 2006 BoB BBQ.... Play nice while you butcher each other.
Nocturnal Avenger Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:20:00 - [4] Originally by: Monsieur Escargots Massive, unplayable, gamebreaking, Lag Max can't really take credit for that I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. - Carebear Pirate -
shiamizu Outriders	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:22:00 - [5] Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Originally by: Monsieur Escargots Massive, unplayable, gamebreaking, Lag Max can't really take credit for that I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. don't look at the killboard, look in the corp hangar for the amount of veldspar those dreads mined in deklein . in reality it's EvE's biggest mining op evah
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:30:00 - [6] Originally by: Sergeant Spot All according to the plan from the 2006 BoB BBQ.... Now we know why CCP haven't fixed the servers yet, I guess... -----------
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:33:00 - [7] Originally by: Monsieur Escargots Massive, unplayable, gamebreaking, Lag This is what I didn't understand about MAX .. and STILL leaves me puzzled. It seems a strategy designed to showcase the worst problems with the game and the fundamental problems with early design choices made by CCP. Why? BOB contains so many people involved in testing and developing this game, yet they are deliberately creating fleets to break it. Something about this just doesn't make sense. Are we all just unwitting participants in a CCP inspired stress test? Would any of the BOB testers etc care to comment? Myn
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:34:00 - [8] Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Max can't really take credit for that I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. Well, the whole north is quite happy about the MAX thing: finally something to shoot! You didn't dare to attack RA so you had some desperate lack of targets. How many fleet ops did you have the last month? How many fleet ops did you have the last week? So the whole yelling waaa bob sucks, noobs, max fail, blaa blubb is rather idiotic. Leave that to the goons, because THEY have something to yell: they are left out and don't have fun fights. So it is quite understandable that they are trolling like they do. Would the NC rather prefer that bob leaves them, returns to the south and have fun with AAA and IAC? Hardly. So be nice to them and lure them more to your regions!
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Monsieur Escargots Massive, unplayable, gamebreaking, Lag This is what I didn't understand about MAX .. and STILL leaves me puzzled. It seems a strategy designed to showcase the worst problems with the game and the fundamental problems with early design choices made by CCP. Why? BOB contains so many people involved in testing and developing this game, yet they are deliberately creating fleets to break it. Something about this just doesn't make sense. Are we all just unwitting participants in a CCP inspired stress test? Would any of the BOB testers etc care to comment? Myn Or maybe, just maybe... The part that doesn't make sense is the part where we're all devs... - -
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:37:00 - [10] Yeh, if people would go on Sisi and help test there we wouldn't have to do this. Honest. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
The Blinded GK inc.	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:39:00 - [11] It's me, I'm the lag in the OP.
HC MasiEEE Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:41:00 - [12] Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you ______________________________________ HC MasiEEE - Proud Member of DICE
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:42:00 - [13] Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 13/07/2008 11:45:50 Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr The part that doesn't make sense is the part where we're all devs... I never said you were all devs. However, you do contain a significant group of players who are expert with the game mechanics, and a good proportion of the volunteer bugfinders. As a group, your collective knowledge of the game mechanics is significantly stronger than any other 2900 member alliance. Yet still you CHOOSE to set up scenarios you know are most likely to crash nodes and force the game into states where it is at its most unplayable. Why? Are you being honest with your members about these ops? "We want the biggest blob we can get .. more destructive than anyone else has every collected .. because we know it will crahs nodes, result in hours of black screens .. and ruin the game experience for anyone who dares to be near us .. including us." Something just doesn't ring true about this whole thing.
HC MasiEEE Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:43:00 - [14] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr The part that doesn't make sense is the part where we're all devs... I never said you were all devs. However, you do contain a significant group of players who are expert with the game mechanics, and a good proportion of the volunteer bugfinders. As a group, your collective knowledge of the game mechanics is significantly stronger than any other 2900 member alliance. Yet still you CHOOSE to set up scenarios you know are most likely to crash nodes and force the game into states where it is at its most unplayable. Why? its not fun to spoil the surprise is it ______________________________________ HC MasiEEE - Proud Member of DICE
Moon Kitten GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:52:00 - [15] band of blobbers complaining about lag
cptblood Minmatar D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:56:00 - [16] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr The part that doesn't make sense is the part where we're all devs... I never said you were all devs. However, you do contain a significant group of players who are expert with the game mechanics, and a good proportion of the volunteer bugfinders. As a group, your collective knowledge of the game mechanics is significantly stronger than any other 2900 member alliance. Yet still you CHOOSE to set up scenarios you know are most likely to crash nodes and force the game into states where it is at its most unplayable. Why? its not fun to spoil the surprise is it I see it more that BoB are using the same tactics everyone else used against them and failed with.Hopefully they will now give a lesson in how it should be done and break the northern napfest. Mynas you seem alittle bitter towards BoB, me thinks there might be a reason behind all this lol
Sasha Lyre Gallente Blood Music	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:56:00 - [17] Well I can say one thing for certainty. Since I started playing this game, early in 2004. I've NEVER seen BOB get spanked SEVEN times in a row. I'm a euro and just out of bed, the killboards of ALL involved show them getting spanked last night in JU and surrounding systems. The combined killboards show them getting equally annhialated approx 08:00, again, this time in 2r, losing faction battleships and basically ANOTHER whole fleet. I'm not daft enought to think that this would affect BOB's isk, I'm not going to even go to that particular subject, I think Astarte Nosferatu has summed that subject up on many other posts, what I will say is how long can some of the minions support these losses? How long will they continue wanting to follow elite FC's that jump them into dead end systems and then straight into hostile camps, to die horribly and wake up in a clone tank AGAIN, for up to the SEVENTH time, when you check the engagement analysis. I don't really get goons, but I do get one thing, they are loving this soooo much and I bet RA ain't crying too much either... Your Blood Goes to my Head and the Music Flows through my Veins
Shamen Amarr Revival.	Posted - 2008.07.13 11:59:00 - [18] Well most people are forgetting the fact BoB are jumping in to systems with camps setup already. They are jumping into jammed systems with enemy caps already in the system... and are pretty much equal on loss/kill which is very impressive... ______________________________________________ Shamen [yellow]Shamen easily beat me to an announcement and still did not get a sticky. <3, Navigator
TheAdj Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.13 12:00:00 - [19] Originally by: Shamen Well most people are forgetting the fact BoB are jumping in to systems with camps setup already. They are jumping into jammed systems with enemy caps already in the system... and are pretty much equal on loss/kill which is very impressive... You are ****ing delusional. ----------------
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.13 12:02:00 - [20] Originally by: Gnulpie Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Max can't really take credit for that I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. Well, the whole north is quite happy about the MAX thing: finally something to shoot! You didn't dare to attack RA so you had some desperate lack of targets. How many fleet ops did you have the last month? How many fleet ops did you have the last week? Not sure about the rest of the north but we were having fun in syndicate and have been for a month or so. We missed the initial attack simply because we were busy elsewhere. So to answer your question how many fleet ops during the last week... at least 7, during the last month at least 30... get the picture?
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.07.13 12:03:00 - [21] Originally by: cptblood Mynas you seem alittle bitter towards BoB, me thinks there might be a reason behind all this lol I'm surprised you are not aware of the history given you were an MC member for a short time. Feel free to contact me or any of your ex-corp mates who were in MC or Project Alice. I'm sure they can fill you in on the details.
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.13 12:03:00 - [22] In the last 10 days, between esoteria and the north, the GBC has lost every single engagement, 1000 ships, among which 500 battleships and one dread. These are facts you can find on killboards, not propaganda. Good fights, indeed. Good fights. -clp
Moran Trayga Infinity Continuum	Posted - 2008.07.13 12:06:00 - [23] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: cptblood Mynas you seem alittle bitter towards BoB, me thinks there might be a reason behind all this lol I'm surprised you are not aware of the history given you were an MC member for a short time. Feel free to contact me or any of your ex-corp mates who were in MC or Project Alice. I'm sure they can fill you in on the details. Why not fill everyone in? I'm sure if it's worth knowing, rather than some nutjobs conspiracy theory, then people will want to listen. - MORAN TRAYGA -
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.07.13 12:11:00 - [24] Originally by: Heptameron Originally by: Gnulpie Well, the whole north is quite happy about the MAX thing: finally something to shoot! You didn't dare to attack RA so you had some desperate lack of targets. How many fleet ops did you have the last month? How many fleet ops did you have the last week? So to answer your question how many fleet ops during the last week... at least 7, during the last month at least 30... get the picture? 30 fleet ops the last months you say? Looking at the razor killboard for that time it shows really pityful stats then compared to the stats of the last 7 days where MAX was rolling in. Are you saying that you hate having the gbc so close that it is so easy for you to shoot them down now without travelling half the galaxy leaving your home undefended?
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.07.13 12:13:00 - [25] Originally by: HC MasiEEE How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you Funny thing is that its even unknown to you as well. Moving goals 4tw. If Molle had some real balls he'd post the MAX goals on COAD.
Mei Han Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.13 12:21:00 - [26] Originally by: Gnulpie Originally by: Heptameron Originally by: Gnulpie Well, the whole north is quite happy about the MAX thing: finally something to shoot! You didn't dare to attack RA so you had some desperate lack of targets. How many fleet ops did you have the last month? How many fleet ops did you have the last week? So to answer your question how many fleet ops during the last week... at least 7, during the last month at least 30... get the picture? 30 fleet ops the last months you say? Looking at the razor killboard for that time it shows really pityful stats then compared to the stats of the last 7 days where MAX was rolling in. Are you saying that you hate having the gbc so close that it is so easy for you to shoot them down now without travelling half the galaxy leaving your home undefended? Well,unfortunately SOV, CAN, SOT etc knew better than suiciding on us. Also small scale PVP does not yield hundreds of BS kills each day.
Silmerias Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.07.13 12:33:00 - [27] Maximum failure ;) --- Tau Ceti Federation
Dihania Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.13 12:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Antodias and lots and lots and lots and lots of caod poasts This is the truth. Blobbing is not much of a tactic. Am curious as to how the hostilities will evolve. EVE:"The Hand-holding Age".
HC MasiEEE Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 13:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: HC MasiEEE How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you Funny thing is that its even unknown to you as well. Moving goals 4tw. If Molle had some real balls he'd post the MAX goals on COAD. Dont post about balls when posting with an alt. And you are just speculating we dont know anything, keep it up you already convinced yourself just a few hundred thousand more and you win eve ______________________________________ HC MasiEEE - Proud Member of DICE
Ariko Gunaris Gallente Office of Ganking and Commerce	Posted - 2008.07.13 13:46:00 - [30] Mynas Atoch has reach a new, pathetic, low.
Junkie Beverage GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.13 13:53:00 - [31] "when u try hard dats when u die hard" ~j-beezie
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.07.13 13:56:00 - [32] Originally by: cptblood Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr The part that doesn't make sense is the part where we're all devs... I never said you were all devs. However, you do contain a significant group of players who are expert with the game mechanics, and a good proportion of the volunteer bugfinders. As a group, your collective knowledge of the game mechanics is significantly stronger than any other 2900 member alliance. Yet still you CHOOSE to set up scenarios you know are most likely to crash nodes and force the game into states where it is at its most unplayable. Why? its not fun to spoil the surprise is it I see it more that BoB are using the same tactics everyone else used against them and failed with.Hopefully they will now give a lesson in how it should be done and break the northern napfest. Mynas you seem alittle bitter towards BoB, me thinks there might be a reason behind all this lol your not at all bitter about the spanking the 'napfest' gave you though are you
Blitz'Krieg Caldari Demon Theory OWN Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:01:00 - [33] the thing i dont get about MAX just the same as i didn't get about the invasion of delve is why the resources are bunched onto one system. 500 capitals to me seems better to be spread in twenty bunches of 25 hitting every system in every constellation in a wide swathe of the enemies territory. Smart jumpbridging with titans allows you to move support to where its needed and you are far more effective over a larger area and NOBODY can even think of responding. The very worst that will happen is losing one or two of your groups while the enemy loses 18 systems.
HC MasiEEE Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:08:00 - [34] Originally by: Blitz'Krieg the thing i dont get about MAX just the same as i didn't get about the invasion of delve is why the resources are bunched onto one system. 500 capitals to me seems better to be spread in twenty bunches of 25 hitting every system in every constellation in a wide swathe of the enemies territory. Smart jumpbridging with titans allows you to move support to where its needed and you are far more effective over a larger area and NOBODY can even think of responding. The very worst that will happen is losing one or two of your groups while the enemy loses 18 systems. Loosing 50 caps sounds like a great tactic indeed ______________________________________ HC MasiEEE - Proud Member of DICE
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:11:00 - [35] Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 13/07/2008 14:16:04 Originally by: Blitz'Krieg the thing i dont get about MAX just the same as i didn't get about the invasion of delve is why the resources are bunched onto one system. 500 capitals to me seems better to be spread in twenty bunches of 25 hitting every system in every constellation in a wide swathe of the enemies territory. Smart jumpbridging with titans allows you to move support to where its needed and you are far more effective over a larger area and NOBODY can even think of responding. The very worst that will happen is losing one or two of your groups while the enemy loses 18 systems. This just wouldn't work. Despite being the second biggest alliance in the game, having more dedicated PVP'rs than any other, and having what seems like an unlimited supply of wannabes as cannon fodder, BOB's entire doctrine for fleet battles has always been about putting the maximum firepower on a single location. Outside of the main blob its pretty rare to find any bob mains even logged on. BOB have always had a small cadre of good FCs, some above average players and a host of drones who follow orders. Expecting them to work independently now after years of following the leader is totally beyond them. You only have to look at the poor performance of the individual BOB corps, both in participation and killboard ratings, when operating solo, to see that the blob is their best and only succesful tactic. They are good at it, though .. and very good on homeground .. at moving it around quickly. However, this advantage is totally negated by taking it on the road, and bringing so many pets that the record numbers of capitals etc, just can't load consistently in any system they target. High mobility troops in a quagmire - thus BOB losing every significant engagement since the start of MAX.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:15:00 - [36] Originally by: Antodias and lots and lots and lots and lots of caod poasts its like an antodias wet dream supreme special.
Aales Eae Solus Navy	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:19:00 - [37] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you The guy in the pink hat basting the sausages already explained everything. Hey look on the bright side. After this is over people are gonna be so tired of "FAILCASCADE" that we'll have a new catch phrase, all thanks to BOB.
Antodias North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:20:00 - [38] Originally by: sakana Originally by: Antodias and lots and lots and lots and lots of caod poasts its like an antodias wet dream supreme special. wat up caod tag team buddy o/\o
Pesadel0 Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:30:00 - [39] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 13/07/2008 14:16:55 Originally by: Blitz'Krieg the thing i dont get about MAX just the same as i didn't get about the invasion of delve is why the resources are bunched onto one system. 500 capitals to me seems better to be spread in twenty bunches of 25 hitting every system in every constellation in a wide swathe of the enemies territory. Smart jumpbridging with titans allows you to move support to where its needed and you are far more effective over a larger area and NOBODY can even think of responding. The very worst that will happen is losing one or two of your groups while the enemy loses 18 systems. This just wouldn't work. Despite being the second biggest alliance in the game, having more dedicated PVP'rs than any other, and having what seems like an unlimited supply of wannabes as cannon fodder, BOB's entire doctrine for fleet battles has always been about putting the maximum firepower on a single location. Outside of the main blob its pretty rare to find any bob mains even logged on. BOB have always had a small cadre of good FCs, some above average players and a host of drones who follow orders. Expecting them to work independently now after years of following the leader is totally beyond them. You only have to look at the poor performance of the individual BOB corps, both in participation and killboard ratings, when operating solo, to see that the blob is their best and only succesful tactic. They are good at it, though .. and very good on homeground .. at moving it around quickly. However, this advantage is totally negated by taking it on the road, and bringing so many pets that the record numbers of capitals etc, just can't load consistently in any system they target. High mobility troops in a quagmire of their own creation - thus BOB losing every significant engagement since the start of MAX. At least we defended our home . ------------------------------------------------------------------
Xailz Amarr Thunder Talons HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:40:00 - [40] Am i the first to say.. who really cares what MAX is all about? at least BOB is actually showing some aggression unlike most of eve who are spassing over moons and farming their isks if there is some grander plan BOB have in store i look forward to it Xz
hired goon Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:42:00 - [41] I want to know why goons aren't taking opportunity to eat BoB space?? -omg-
Xailz Amarr Thunder Talons HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:47:00 - [42] Originally by: hired goon I want to know why goons aren't taking opportunity to eat BoB space?? Cyno jammers+Titans are over powered remember Xz
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:54:00 - [43] Originally by: hired goon I want to know why goons aren't taking opportunity to eat BoB space?? Ironically enough, I remember a Goon asking your alliance, Mostly Harmless, the same question when you were cynoing out out all of your Dreads from Nol not that long ago. -- Billion Isk Mission
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.07.13 15:27:00 - [44] Originally by: HC MasiEEE You are just speculating we dont know anything, keep it up you already convinced yourself just a few hundred thousand more and you win eve OK, lets go in simple mode here since thats the level you might grasp. You say you have a plan and claim its the best plan anyone has come up with. Got everyone worked up about it and try really hard to bring it to everyone's attention. Yet when it comes to explaining everybody gets left in the dark about it. You're dumb.
Starfall Hammer Starfall Industries	Posted - 2008.07.13 15:45:00 - [45] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you Exactly. Though by failing to set out the goals in advance its almost as though bob are deliberately keeping the goals secret so that they can later claim that whatever they do manage to achieve was precisely what they set ut to achieve so the whole thing has been a great success. Oh, and just for you as you seem to be a bit C/O about them -
Nocturnal Avenger Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.13 15:53:00 - [46] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you I knew the goals of MAX after I read the NY Times article. I stand by my statement. FYI: "At the barbecue Mr. Molen unveiled a new strategy called Max, for Maximum Damage. While most Eve campaigns center on taking and controlling regions of space, BOBÆs new Maximum Damage doctrine focuses on simply pillaging and destroying the territories of others. ôOur goal is to control all of Eve,ö Mr. Molen said in an interview over an Internet voice chat program. ôItÆs totally impossible to claim all of Eve physically. But itÆs possible to control the people. ItÆs possible to control the alliances, be it by economic means or fighting means or political means. That was the goal and that is the goal.ö" - Carebear Pirate -
teh punisher Noob Mercs	Posted - 2008.07.13 16:09:00 - [47] Originally by: Scatim Helicon Originally by: Sergeant Spot All according to the plan from the 2006 BoB BBQ.... Now we know why CCP haven't fixed the servers yet, I guess... because bob owns ccp and all the developers, right guys?
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.07.13 16:50:00 - [48] Massive, Unplayable, Gamebreaking, Lag MUGL? Max = Muggles? Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:01:00 - [49] Originally by: Mynas Atoch ...some quotes about not understanding what BoB is, what Bob does, what MAX stands for...looking for a reason....cannot find a reason....giving a reason: devhaxorssploits Mynas Mynas..this really isn't your game eh? No indeed, it's not Wow.. not even POTB and not AoC. ITs eve...Adapt or become a victim, seems your gonna be the latter.
BoB sucks Burning Bush Enterprises	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:01:00 - [50] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you Well, if the goals of Max is the utter embaresment of BoB, then you are doing fine. Iron has never succesfuly defended her space against an invasion. EVER. They have always withdrawn and come back for it later. If BoB can't even succesfuly shoot up Iron space, what is going to happen if they try and pick on somebody who is halfway competant?
Will Hunter GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:07:00 - [51] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Monsieur Escargots Massive, unplayable, gamebreaking, Lag This is what I didn't understand about MAX .. and STILL leaves me puzzled. It seems a strategy designed to showcase the worst problems with the game and the fundamental problems with early design choices made by CCP. Why? BOB contains so many people involved in testing and developing this game, yet they are deliberately creating fleets to break it. Something about this just doesn't make sense. Are we all just unwitting participants in a CCP inspired stress test? Would any of the BOB testers etc care to comment? Myn are you saying that the are the biggest ggroup of popsocking ***s of the game? why i never
Adamantium Beams Section XIII	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:20:00 - [52] Originally by: Shamen Well most people are forgetting the fact BoB are jumping in to systems with camps setup already. They are jumping into jammed systems with enemy caps already in the system... and are pretty much equal on loss/kill which is very impressive... Jumping in is so 2007
Leeme Lone Gallente x13 X13 Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:22:00 - [53] keep posting goons, your crying is great entertainment, just remember to make a new thread when you broke the forum rules and locks this one :)
Will Hunter GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:26:00 - [54] Originally by: Leeme Lone keep posting goons, your crying is great entertainment, just remember to make a new thread when you broke the forum rules and locks this one :) heah look at them puppets dancing
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:27:00 - [55] Its like when you are choosing up teams in the pickup game, and goons are the last ones picked to round out the team.. c/d? According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:34:00 - [56] It's like in funny games (the movie) when there's that nice family happy at home and then 2 exquisite well-mannered dudes get in their house and kill them after a lot of suffering, the nice guys are the goons and pets are the once-happy family. -clp
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:42:00 - [57] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus It's like in funny games (the movie) when there's that nice family happy at home and then 2 exquisite well-mannered dudes get in their house and kill them after a lot of suffering, the nice guys are the goons and pets are the once-happy family. I think you are mistaking that with final fantasy... According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Lord Mephisto	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:48:00 - [58] Originally by: Kaaii Originally by: Cippalippus Primus It's like in funny games (the movie) when there's that nice family happy at home and then 2 exquisite well-mannered dudes get in their house and kill them after a lot of suffering, the nice guys are the goons and pets are the once-happy family. I think you are mistaking that with final fantasy... perhaps scorn memories from childhood
Jinshu German Kings Majesta Empire	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:57:00 - [59] I'm not sure if posting here really is worth any time investment at all, but i shall try to put some real thought into this thread: Let me quote the goals mentioned earlier in the thread: "FYI: "At the barbecue Mr. Molen unveiled a new strategy called Max, for Maximum Damage. While most Eve campaigns center on taking and controlling regions of space, BOB’s new Maximum Damage doctrine focuses on simply pillaging and destroying the territories of others. “Our goal is to control all of Eve,” Mr. Molen said in an interview over an Internet voice chat program. “It’s totally impossible to claim all of Eve physically. But it’s possible to control the people. It’s possible to control the alliances, be it by economic means or fighting means or political means. That was the goal and that is the goal.”" So what would it take to succeed for BoB ? We know that BoB has some massive economic power in eve with that beeing said, they are able to replace resources much easier than a lot of the weaker alliances holding space in eve. Thus even in a long standstill type war - with equal losses they would eventually take the lead and win. However with the current system favouring the defenders due to cynojammed systems it requires much more than a little bit of financial advantage. But if BoBs homesystems are ineed safe - bringing war to the opponents disturbs logistics and economy there, so if played right against a weaker opponent even this defender advantage won't be enough. Once succeeded it takes quite a minimal efford to keep all the defeated alliances weak due to a regulary visit from a massive superior fleet. Thus taking control of the eve universe to some extend. However this equation has a fair bit of variables: - if enough alliances band together against BoB the advantage in members and power diminishes Since it is actually BoB even people that do not get along that well normaly will eventually unite to face that invader. And if it is only to put them into place after making so bold anouncements. - Even with superior finances and economy and logistics - loosing figths in an epic unfavourable proportion like in JU yesterday more often will hurt even BoB over time - so they should watch out for that. - It is true, that BoBs Cap Fleet is unrivaled - however in nowadays times of cynojammers "their numbers will count for nothing" to quote 300" - on the other side why should anyone want to attack that cap fleet anyway - so it will often really be only a big logistic support fleet. - If it goes on long enough some crazy people might actually band together to attack BoBs homespace again - no matter how easy logistics might have become - it takes time and effort - how often do you think will your highly motivated players want to jump/ travel and organize for hours and hours if it reaches a threshold - it will become anoying and demotivating. Of course MAXimum Waiting has only begun now - so it is true that only time will tell. However we allready see the effects. The whole NC stands more or less on the frontline in deklein right from the start - i see razor, mm, mh, iron, pure and more in the fleets and waiting - so no easy take out of the alliances one by one. And so far as stated all on the forums - there have been some decisive fleetbattles in favour of the NC and as people said allready - a lot of pilots are looking forward for some action up here. The question is - how long will the rest of the Eve Universe and the 0.0 alliances watch the events without taking actions for either side or trying to make profit out of this war and BoB being far frome home. Or to quote the Movie "Wanted": What the **** have you been doing lately ? The Game cannot be won, only played.
Wilko1776 Minmatar An Eye For An Eye Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:58:00 - [60] replying to post, did not read
Ast3r0iD Gallente Black List Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2008.07.13 18:46:00 - [61] what would be interesting is if Iron turned off the cynojammer, let all the capitals in system, and then turned the cyno back on while goons blobbed the hell out of it. The capital blob would have a real hard time regrouping with the zerg in system and all of bobs capital fleet would be away from delve ...
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.07.13 18:52:00 - [62] unfortunately cyno jammer doesn't stop people from jumping out of the system, only in
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.13 18:52:00 - [63] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr The part that doesn't make sense is the part where we're all devs... I never said you were all devs. However, you do contain a significant group of players who are expert with the game mechanics, and a good proportion of the volunteer bugfinders. As a group, your collective knowledge of the game mechanics is significantly stronger than any other 2900 member alliance. Yet still you CHOOSE to set up scenarios you know are most likely to crash nodes and force the game into states where it is at its most unplayable. Why? its not fun to spoil the surprise is it Bob want to do what Goon have try to do near 2 year ago now...its mean Destroy Eve. Dang, so lets unite and do it togheter bobbies! Maybe who know....CCP gonna do a better game mecanic after we burn completely? COAD is for morons.......hey...wait a minute 0o !!!
Wu Xiang Prospero Incorperated	Posted - 2008.07.13 19:07:00 - [64] Edited by: Wu Xiang on 13/07/2008 19:08:11 dbl poast
Wu Xiang Prospero Incorperated	Posted - 2008.07.13 19:08:00 - [65] Edited by: Wu Xiang on 13/07/2008 19:09:30 Originally by: cptblood Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr The part that doesn't make sense is the part where we're all devs... I never said you were all devs. However, you do contain a significant group of players who are expert with the game mechanics, and a good proportion of the volunteer bugfinders. As a group, your collective knowledge of the game mechanics is significantly stronger than any other 2900 member alliance. Yet still you CHOOSE to set up scenarios you know are most likely to crash nodes and force the game into states where it is at its most unplayable. Why? its not fun to spoil the surprise is it I see it more that BoB are using the same tactics everyone else used against them and failed with.Hopefully they will now give a lesson in how it should be done and break the northern napfest. Mynas you seem alittle bitter towards BoB, me thinks there might be a reason behind all this lol I don't see what the history has to do with anything when he has a valid point. Infact you have little room to talk considering the laughable decisions you instigated within Tri. The simple fact is, using numbers in the way BoB are as some show of strength only makes for lag. Anyone that says otherwise is a damn liar. Attack anyone on the ball and all you achieve is lagging yourself out on an enemy POS. BoB are competent enough to make headway at some point, but to mass that many ships in one fleet, in one place as some kind of 'master plan' and then being all surprised when it does Pete Tong just begs belief. As for 'teaching us how its done' im not a fan of the naptrain either, but nobody needs a lesson in 'lets see how many ships we can get on one grid before it breaks'.
Zapsus Amarr Tritanium Transportations R.H.I.N.O.	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:11:00 - [66] This forum threat is propaganda.
Tress Macneille Eight year old girls GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:19:00 - [67] you know, a couple of weeks ago there weren't many alt posters at all but now bob has come under-fire on the forums and there's suddenly a zillion que?
Ronana	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:40:00 - [68] Originally by: Shamen Well most people are forgetting the fact BoB are jumping in to systems with camps setup already. They are jumping into jammed systems with enemy caps already in the system... and are pretty much equal on loss/kill which is very impressive... It's more like 90% loss for BoB and 10% loss for the other guys. Nothing impressive about that
torN Deception GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.13 21:35:00 - [69] Edited by: torN Deception on 13/07/2008 21:35:33 This MAX thing keeps getting better and better. edit: I hear that sirmolle has started throwing hissy fits on BoB TS. Man, I hope the recordings of those show up soon.
Vyctor Wulf Amarr Baptism oF Fire Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.07.14 03:10:00 - [70] Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you I knew the goals of MAX after I read the NY Times article. I stand by my statement. FYI: "At the barbecue Mr. Molen unveiled a new strategy called Max, for Maximum Damage. While most Eve campaigns center on taking and controlling regions of space, BOBÆs new Maximum Damage doctrine focuses on simply pillaging and destroying the territories of others. ôOur goal is to control all of Eve,ö Mr. Molen said in an interview over an Internet voice chat program. ôItÆs totally impossible to claim all of Eve physically. But itÆs possible to control the people. ItÆs possible to control the alliances, be it by economic means or fighting means or political means. That was the goal and that is the goal.ö" Max seems to be about control, not wins and losses. From that perspective it's going according to plan.
Lunas Feelgood S.A.S	Posted - 2008.07.14 04:19:00 - [71] Originally by: Jinshu I'm not sure if posting here really is worth any time investment at all, but i shall try to put some real thought into this thread: Let me quote the goals mentioned earlier in the thread: "FYI: "At the barbecue Mr. Molen unveiled a new strategy called Max, for Maximum Damage. While most Eve campaigns center on taking and controlling regions of space, BOBÆs new Maximum Damage doctrine focuses on simply pillaging and destroying the territories of others. ôOur goal is to control all of Eve,ö Mr. Molen said in an interview over an Internet voice chat program. ôItÆs totally impossible to claim all of Eve physically. But itÆs possible to control the people. ItÆs possible to control the alliances, be it by economic means or fighting means or political means. That was the goal and that is the goal.ö" So what would it take to succeed for BoB ? We know that BoB has some massive economic power in eve with that beeing said, they are able to replace resources much easier than a lot of the weaker alliances holding space in eve. Thus even in a long standstill type war - with equal losses they would eventually take the lead and win. However with the current system favouring the defenders due to cynojammed systems it requires much more than a little bit of financial advantage. But if BoBs homesystems are ineed safe - bringing war to the opponents disturbs logistics and economy there, so if played right against a weaker opponent even this defender advantage won't be enough. Once succeeded it takes quite a minimal efford to keep all the defeated alliances weak due to a regulary visit from a massive superior fleet. Thus taking control of the eve universe to some extend. However this equation has a fair bit of variables: - if enough alliances band together against BoB the advantage in members and power diminishes Since it is actually BoB even people that do not get along that well normaly will eventually unite to face that invader. And if it is only to put them into place after making so bold anouncements. - Even with superior finances and economy and logistics - loosing figths in an epic unfavourable proportion like in JU yesterday more often will hurt even BoB over time - so they should watch out for that. - It is true, that BoBs Cap Fleet is unrivaled - however in nowadays times of cynojammers "their numbers will count for nothing" to quote 300" - on the other side why should anyone want to attack that cap fleet anyway - so it will often really be only a big logistic support fleet. - If it goes on long enough some crazy people might actually band together to attack BoBs homespace again - no matter how easy logistics might have become - it takes time and effort - how often do you think will your highly motivated players want to jump/ travel and organize for hours and hours if it reaches a threshold - it will become anoying and demotivating. Of course MAXimum Waiting has only begun now - so it is true that only time will tell. However we allready see the effects. The whole NC stands more or less on the frontline in deklein right from the start - i see razor, mm, mh, iron, pure and more in the fleets and waiting - so no easy take out of the alliances one by one. And so far as stated all on the forums - there have been some decisive fleetbattles in favour of the NC and as people said allready - a lot of pilots are looking forward for some action up here. The question is - how long will the rest of the Eve Universe and the 0.0 alliances watch the events without taking actions for either side or trying to make profit out of this war and BoB being far frome home. Or to quote the Movie "Wanted": What the **** have you been doing lately ? Really nice read Bob Highcommand: We planned it all BOB: Hey its unfair Goons killed all our pets and we are now outnumbered
TheAdj Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.14 04:19:00 - [72] If they want to control us by throwing 300+ bs and who knows how many t2 wrecks at us per week while they flail terribly against us, BoB can control my game all they want. ----------------
Lunas Feelgood S.A.S	Posted - 2008.07.14 04:22:00 - [73] Originally by: TheAdj If they want to control us by throwing 300+ bs and who knows how many t2 wrecks at us per week while they flail terribly against us, BoB can control my game all they want. Bob Highcommand: We planned it all BOB: Hey its unfair Goons killed all our pets and we are now outnumbered
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.07.14 05:09:00 - [74] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus It's like in funny games (the movie) when there's that nice family happy at home and then 2 exquisite well-mannered dudes get in their house and kill them after a lot of suffering, the nice guys are the goons and pets are the once-happy family. Made me stop buying eggs since borrowing them is way nicer. Fer sure!
Rakaim Rising Federation	Posted - 2008.07.14 07:45:00 - [75] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you The BoB boy has a point, losing 13 Billion to Iron was all part of the BoB's plan. _____________________________ CEO of Rising Federation [RWNX]
Diomidis Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.14 08:39:00 - [76] The one thing MAX + It's CAOD propaganda accomplished is mislead ppl reading the BoB Killboards on MAX's loses: BoBs are rarely seen in fleet fights. They prefer to stay hidden in their (indeed) impressive, yet not intelligently flown caps and brag in CAOD, while almost a dozen of other allied/pet/whatever Alliances get butchered... 1-2% BoB per BS fleet assure that all enemy KM get into BoB Killboards for them to brag about, while the losses are spread in other boards... Now BoB are complaining about lag, cyno-jammers etc, flaming the NC Alliances for their "cowardice" tactics, forgetting their epic failing in Querious etc a few months ago. Surely NC advance came to an end, but at least they were advancing - with a way less impressive cap fleet and way less fuss in CAOD etc. BoB + their allies are summed to an impressive force, tho IMHO this fact has nothing to do with PvP. Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.14 08:59:00 - [77] Originally by: Diomidis The one thing MAX + It's CAOD propaganda accomplished is mislead ppl reading the BoB Killboards on MAX's loses: BoBs are rarely seen in fleet fights. They prefer to stay hidden in their (indeed) impressive, yet not intelligently flown caps and brag in CAOD, while almost a dozen of other allied/pet/whatever Alliances get butchered... 1-2% BoB per BS fleet assure that all enemy KM get into BoB Killboards for them to brag about, while the losses are spread in other boards... Now BoB are complaining about lag, cyno-jammers etc, flaming the NC Alliances for their "cowardice" tactics, forgetting their epic failing in Querious etc a few months ago. Surely NC advance came to an end, but at least they were advancing - with a way less impressive cap fleet and way less fuss in CAOD etc. BoB + their allies are summed to an impressive force, tho IMHO this fact has nothing to do with PvP. Jesus christ dude. You must be one of the most stupid RZR guys out there. Why don't you stop spewing shit like this. Anyone with half a brain can see that BOB participation is from 30-50% most of the time, and secondly we've only seen the beginning of this campaign so you'd do well to chill on the conclusions for a few more weeks. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Dashboard Hard Rock Cafe	Posted - 2008.07.14 09:39:00 - [78] Edited by: Dashboard on 14/07/2008 09:38:52 Originally by: Fred0 Jesus christ dude. You must be one of the most stupid RZR guys out there. Why don't you stop spewing shit like this. Anyone with half a brain can see that BOB participation is from 30-50% most of the time, and secondly we've only seen the beginning of this campaign so you'd do well to chill on the conclusions for a few more weeks. RZR killboard comes to CAOD \o/
Derrios Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.07.14 09:40:00 - [79] Originally by: Antodias and lots and lots and lots and lots of caod poasts ya I was gonna say "An exorbitant amount of useless caod posts"
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.14 09:45:00 - [80] Originally by: Dashboard Edited by: Dashboard on 14/07/2008 09:38:52 Originally by: Fred0 Jesus christ dude. You must be one of the most stupid RZR guys out there. Why don't you stop spewing shit like this. Anyone with half a brain can see that BOB participation is from 30-50% most of the time, and secondly we've only seen the beginning of this campaign so you'd do well to chill on the conclusions for a few more weeks. RZR killboard comes to CAOD \o/ Yeah, keeping up an appearance when people ** up is not our style. I prefer to be part of a ship where everybody knows what's expected of them and they get called on **ing up. Each to their own I guess. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
SSgt Sniper Gallente MAIDS	Posted - 2008.07.14 15:07:00 - [81] Originally by: BoB sucks Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you Well, if the goals of Max is the utter embaresment of BoB, then you are doing fine. Iron has never succesfuly defended her space against an invasion. EVER. They have always withdrawn and come back for it later. If BoB can't even succesfuly shoot up Iron space, what is going to happen if they try and pick on somebody who is halfway competant? This. I noted with Amusement that they decided to lay out the first serious attack on the Imperial Republic of Pack-Your-Shit-and-Leave. Yet for the first time in IRON's history, they aren't 'pulling an IRON'. My theory is BoB is actually trying to repair IRON's image. And I much as I hate them, I wish IRON the best of luck. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
General StarScream The Scope	Posted - 2008.07.14 15:08:00 - [82] Death to bob(the alliance) and anyone whom support them Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Dhip C Minmatubbies	Posted - 2008.07.14 15:11:00 - [83] Originally by: General StarScream Death to bob(the alliance) and anyone whom support them I was confused, I thought you meant bob the guy from the movie.
cheephough Revival.	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:06:00 - [84] Edited by: cheephough on 14/07/2008 17:07:18 Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Dashboard Edited by: Dashboard on 14/07/2008 09:38:52 Originally by: Fred0 Jesus christ dude. You must be one of the most stupid RZR guys out there. Why don't you stop spewing shit like this. Anyone with half a brain can see that BOB participation is from 30-50% most of the time, and secondly we've only seen the beginning of this campaign so you'd do well to chill on the conclusions for a few more weeks. RZR killboard comes to CAOD \o/ Yeah, keeping up an appearance when people ** up is not our style. I prefer to be part of a ship where everybody knows what's expected of them and they get called on **ing up. Each to their own I guess. Oh Fred0, it's great to watch you spew this crap. It's funny how you say this, yet you don't hold your own accountable. CEI members can do no wrong, and when other Razor corp members point out their transgressions or lack of accountability, they get smacked, ridiculed, and eventually (for their benefit) removed from the alliance. You keep living in your fantasy world there with Disc0. One day, it may come true. Love yas! Oh yeah, and like I said before, it's not bitterness, it's my second favorite Eve past time - Debunking Razor bullshit and aggravating the hell out of you guys (hopefully).
Zeimanov Kalzumaan Caldari Haruspex Industries	Posted - 2008.07.14 18:11:00 - [85] Hmm - one other thing MAX has accomplished, where is everybody's attention focused right now? Be kinda funny if BoB set up a fleet somewhere else whilst everyone is focused on the North, given the MAX fleets are mostly pets, where's the rest of the fleet?
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.07.14 19:25:00 - [86] Fracking Forums, CCP upgrade or I will courier you my hair as I pull it out I had a nicely typed up post but it got eaten and I'm too lazy to retype it. TL;DR version: 1) Did anyone truly expect even mighty BOB to take down a Locally-Titan-Defended Cyno jammer on the first try? 2) There will be a nerf to Cyno-jammers, MAX will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The tinfoiling of heads on this forum will be loltastic. 3) Can anyone field a fleet as large, well equiped, or experienced as BoB? and if they can; would it make a difference? (read: would they be able to take out cyno-jammers belonging to an alliance IRON sized or better...) -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
NerftheSmurf GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.14 19:49:00 - [87] Originally by: Haradgrim 1) Did anyone truly expect even mighty BOB to take down a Locally-Titan-Defended Cyno jammer on the first try? 2) There will be a nerf to Cyno-jammers, MAX will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The tinfoiling of heads on this forum will be loltastic. 3) Can anyone field a fleet as large, well equiped, or experienced as BoB? and if they can; would it make a difference? (read: would they be able to take out cyno-jammers belonging to an alliance IRON sized or better...) 1) yes, they did it in qy6 months ago 2) ok 3) yes but why bother, the more you bring the less chance you have of a fight. the shocking thing is that bob launched this campaign despite the removal of tower killmails.
Monsieur Escargots The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2008.07.14 20:06:00 - [88] I think what a lot of people around here arn't seeing is the way Titans and Cynojammers have changed the game. It is fairly obvious to anyone who knows how to move with the times that the best way for caps, and especially supercaps to be used, is defensivly. (barring Dreads ofc, but they are just bigger battleships) You can't do anything with your caps offensivly if a system is cynojammed, and in a way, this is good. If you want to take a system, first you need to actually, you know, win a fight. Not just blob it to death. Some might not like this, but it is the way the game has evolved, and possibly, is the way the game was intended to be, after CCP saw how devestating multiple Titans could be. I don't think CCP ever intended super caps to be used in fleets of super caps. they are the ultimate support and logistic tool, and in the case of Titans, the thing which finally breaks the camels back. So, to sum up, stop all this ****y whining about cyno jammers, evolve with the game, play it how it is, and stop moaning your asses off to the devs to get things changed. Adapt or die.
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.07.14 20:25:00 - [89] Originally by: NerftheSmurf Originally by: Haradgrim 1) Did anyone truly expect even mighty BOB to take down a Locally-Titan-Defended Cyno jammer on the first try? 2) There will be a nerf to Cyno-jammers, MAX will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The tinfoiling of heads on this forum will be loltastic. 3) Can anyone field a fleet as large, well equiped, or experienced as BoB? and if they can; would it make a difference? (read: would they be able to take out cyno-jammers belonging to an alliance IRON sized or better...) 1) yes, they did it in qy6 months ago 2) ok 3) yes but why bother, the more you bring the less chance you have of a fight. the shocking thing is that bob launched this campaign despite the removal of tower killmails. 1) You expected IRON to botch the local Titan defence? amirite? 2).... 3)....so the path to 0.0 alliance warfare victory is...........oh wait! -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Tress Macneille Eight year old girls GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.14 20:40:00 - [90] Originally by: Monsieur Escargots I think what a lot of people around here arn't seeing is the way Titans and Cynojammers have changed the game. It is fairly obvious to anyone who knows how to move with the times that the best way for caps, and especially supercaps to be used, is defensivly. (barring Dreads ofc, but they are just bigger battleships) You can't do anything with your caps offensivly if a system is cynojammed, and in a way, this is good. If you want to take a system, first you need to actually, you know, win a fight. Not just blob it to death. Some might not like this, but it is the way the game has evolved, and possibly, is the way the game was intended to be, after CCP saw how devestating multiple Titans could be. I don't think CCP ever intended super caps to be used in fleets of super caps. they are the ultimate support and logistic tool, and in the case of Titans, the thing which finally breaks the camels back. So, to sum up, stop all this ****y whining about cyno jammers, evolve with the game, play it how it is, and stop moaning your asses off to the devs to get things changed. Adapt or die. /signed....now if only the Greater Band of Criers would read this
BritishInvader Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.15 00:26:00 - [91] Bob are actually planning on controlling everyone by bringing them together through displays of terrible EvE tactics, in one large allied group formed with one purpose, to laugh at BoB. Or "Control your game" means "Control CAOD". -----+----- Mail : BritishInvader for signature orders.
Tzujeih GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.15 01:43:00 - [92] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I am quite puzzled by the meager results of that campaign so far though. How can you be puzzeled by the results if the goals of MAX are unknown to you I'm down wit dis. The true effectiveness of max is to confuse, intimidate, and scare the weak-minded pussies that are susceptible to the oldest form of psyops the world has ever known.
Overt Ops	Posted - 2008.07.15 02:56:00 - [93]
Terminal Flatulence The TF Society	Posted - 2008.07.15 13:18:00 - [94] Originally by: Overt Ops Funny pic Actually it's a lot more like this with Mojitos all 'round. RIP Brother Bob.

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