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Mangala Solaris
Caldari
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.07.14 07:11:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: DubanFP
Edited by: DubanFP on 14/07/2008 04:33:45
ok, I found it.
What a Smartbomb would do to Azeroth
Oh and doomsday blasts are said to be able to blast the atmosphere off of entire planets. I can only imagine what one of those would do.
VENI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nyu Vaynette
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.14 07:23:00 -
[32]
There's always Exodar. Of course, given it's track record, it would probably just self-destruct immediately leaving the cartoony denizens of Azeroth helpless.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.14 07:27:00 -
[33]
Lifebloom
and then you have
Innervate for mana regen.
HP is probably around 8000 and mana around 5000.
But then you also have around 3000 armor which reduces damage taken by 20%..
As a tauren female I'd probably be twice the size of an exotic dance tho..
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Verx Interis
Amarr
Aurora Security
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.07.14 07:33:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Robert Rosenberg
Originally by: Verx Interis
Originally by: Robert Rosenberg
Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
EVE might win with characters, but WoW has demigods and other supernatural whatnot so some of the WoW NPCs might be able to give EVE ships etc a beating.
My favorite nerdrage debate was the death star vs a titan.
Star Wars would dominate EVE FIN.
Don't. Start. This. Again.
Please.
As long as we can agree it was not a "debate" so much as a bunch of EVE fanboys making shit up and Star Wars enthusiasts setting them straight.
It's not particularly relevant who knows what, crossing things like this is very hard. But at least in sci-fi it's possible. In fantasy, you have all these supernatural things that work without problems, and nobody knows what would happen if WoW met Tolkien, for example. Personally, I just don't see anything but the DS's main gun as being able to do anything to Eve ships.
But I'd rather someone with a more neutral perspective figure it out.
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
(dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
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Hyperforce99
Gallente
Infinite Covenant
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Posted - 2008.07.14 07:44:00 -
[35]
Why do I suddenly picture myself that huge spaceship from spaceballs comeing down towards azaroth ;P
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Illwill Bill
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.14 07:46:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Robert Rosenberg
Star Wars would dominate EVE FIN.
You kiddin'?
Them stupid Empire pilots only tank for EM damage, so a Ragnarok would do wonders!
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Originally by: CCP Saint
Hey look over there! Its...its...its the thread back on topic!
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Grath Telkin
Amarr
Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.07.14 07:51:00 -
[37]
This needs the best thread ever award, seriously.
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Robert Rosenberg
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.07.14 08:06:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Verx Interis
Originally by: Robert Rosenberg
Originally by: Verx Interis
Originally by: Robert Rosenberg
Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
EVE might win with characters, but WoW has demigods and other supernatural whatnot so some of the WoW NPCs might be able to give EVE ships etc a beating.
My favorite nerdrage debate was the death star vs a titan.
Star Wars would dominate EVE FIN.
Don't. Start. This. Again.
Please.
As long as we can agree it was not a "debate" so much as a bunch of EVE fanboys making shit up and Star Wars enthusiasts setting them straight.
It's not particularly relevant who knows what, crossing things like this is very hard. But at least in sci-fi it's possible. In fantasy, you have all these supernatural things that work without problems, and nobody knows what would happen if WoW met Tolkien, for example. Personally, I just don't see anything but the DS's main gun as being able to do anything to Eve ships.
But I'd rather someone with a more neutral perspective figure it out.
The Force. (Vader was stationed on the Death Star)
Fin.
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MenanceWhite
Amarr
Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.14 08:16:00 -
[39]
The smartbomb would deal enough damage to kill most of the mobs weeks forwards. Causing all the players on that wow "shard" to either quit or change to another shard due to lack of mobs to grind on.
Remember, WoW is a work simulator after all. Remove the work and they'll quit.
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Originally by: Torfi
There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.14 08:41:00 -
[40]
I just wrote a Sci-Fi story entitled Spacefaring Travellers Flattening Universes.
They have a weapon which can flatten other universes from their own one. They beat all established Sci-Fi franchises.
End.
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Robert Rosenberg
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.07.14 08:43:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Crumplecorn
I just wrote a Sci-Fi story entitled Spacefaring Travellers Flattening Universes.
They have a weapon which can flatten other universes from their own one. They beat all established Sci-Fi franchises.
End.
Well why would we compare EVE to some crap story that is only a sentence long. The reason people compare EVE to Star Wars, or to WoW, is because both of those are established franchises with rich history and interesting characters.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.14 09:11:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Robert Rosenberg
Originally by: Crumplecorn
I just wrote a Sci-Fi story entitled Spacefaring Travellers Flattening Universes.
They have a weapon which can flatten other universes from their own one. They beat all established Sci-Fi franchises.
End.
Well why would we compare EVE to some crap story that is only a sentence long. The reason people compare EVE to Star Wars, or to WoW, is because both of those are established franchises with rich history and interesting characters.
Because the figures they compare had about as much work put into them as my universe flattening idea.
Another classic is Star Wars Vs. Star Trek - Star Wars always wins - why? Because the writers added more zeros to their fictional guns than Star Trek did. Same principle here.
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ShardowRhino
Caldari
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.07.14 09:16:00 -
[43]
can we get this thread locked.....and burned? srSLEE
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2008.07.14 09:35:00 -
[44]
Eve wins by default, because anytime WoW gets closer than 1 km to Eve it shoots off in the other direction at 15.56398 m/s and Eve being bumped off the station would not effect the outcome.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Siddy
Minmatar
Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.14 09:41:00 -
[45]
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Ovno ConSyquence
Amarr
LFC
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Posted - 2008.07.14 09:58:00 -
[46]
I think one thing you've missed out here is the difference in one ship hit point compaired to one person hit point, the old d6 starwars roleplay used to have a conversion whereby a ship blaster shooting a person did arround 10 times as much damage (if i remember rightly)  |
Primnproper
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Posted - 2008.07.14 10:03:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Another classic is Star Wars Vs. Star Trek - Star Wars always wins - why? Because the writers added more zeros to their fictional guns than Star Trek did. Same principle here.
Rubbish, its stated quite clearly in next gen that no laser can penetrate the navigational shielding of a warp drive vessel, therefore even the deathstar's planet destroying super laser would bounce harmlesses off even a star fleet shuttles shielding  |
Sgt Blade
Caldari
Save Yourself Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.14 10:17:00 -
[48]
what we do is just simply anchor a few pos guns over the area, just sit back and watch the fire works
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Zinras
Caldari
Order of draugr
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Posted - 2008.07.14 10:22:00 -
[49]
Why not simply fly into a WoW character to kill it?
A nano ship going 10 km/s could easily wipe out even the toughest of tanks in WoW, based on the fact that something like a hammer can damage you. Mass of EVE ships = millions of hammers and when you add the fact that the hammer swings quite slowly in WoW, 10 km/s should easily add incredible amounts of extra damage.
Also, I'd personally fly a Nyx into the elven cities.
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
*moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal*
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
That si a fact comming out from my bran.
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Hesod Adee
Militants of Xen
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Posted - 2008.07.14 10:24:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Robert Rosenberg
Originally by: Crumplecorn
I just wrote a Sci-Fi story entitled Spacefaring Travellers Flattening Universes.
They have a weapon which can flatten other universes from their own one. They beat all established Sci-Fi franchises.
End.
Well why would we compare EVE to some crap story that is only a sentence long. The reason people compare EVE to Star Wars, or to WoW, is because both of those are established franchises with rich history and interesting characters.
Because the figures they compare had about as much work put into them as my universe flattening idea.
Another classic is Star Wars Vs. Star Trek - Star Wars always wins - why? Because the writers added more zeros to their fictional guns than Star Trek did. Same principle here.
Yep, that is more or less how things go. As for why the extra zeroes are there, that isn't important for vs discussions.
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The Wounded
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.07.14 11:19:00 -
[51]
I'd bump them around with my shuttle going at 200 m/s lets see if they can stand that.
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Krxon Blade
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Posted - 2008.07.14 11:35:00 -
[52]
Nothing would happen,
because we cannot interact (land, pew-pew, salvage) with planets.
Unless they have mounts capable of exiting atmosphere :)
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Xercies Ravere
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Posted - 2008.07.14 11:59:00 -
[53]
I think the size of the ammo would kill the wow person instantly...
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Red Panda
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2008.07.14 12:51:00 -
[54]
Want to mix rpgs, fine. Lets add Rifts universe to all this.
Wow chars are SDC entities, Eve ships deal MDC damage. So 8 dmg in Eve equal 800 dmg in wow.
Wow chars dealing SDC damage can't damage MDC structures even if it was 1, 10, 100, 1 bajillion SDC damage. It always equals to 0, null, nada MDC damage. Thus ....
what ever ships you take you just have to wait a wrecking shot to kill it instantly.
Eve ships always wins.
AND STOP COMPARING EVE TO WOW.
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Viqtoria
Caldari
Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.14 13:02:00 -
[55]
how ******ed is the OP
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Kaalen
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.14 14:02:00 -
[56]
We have no way to compare what 1 point of damage is like in relation to a human being, we only know what it means as damage on one of our ships. 1 point of damage may not even chip the paintwork of an armoured and shielded vessel the size of an apartment building but you have to consider that the 1 point of damage is being done to something rather more squishy, whether it's in full epic plate or not.
Even some of our smallest, cheapest frigates fire nuclear warheads. No contest.
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flashfreaking
LFC
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.14 14:05:00 -
[57]
I think you'll find that any nuclear warhead (every single missile in Eve) will annihilate any WoW character...
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Frenetick
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Posted - 2008.07.14 14:46:00 -
[58]
I'd rather debate 'Space: 1999' v 'Blake's 7'
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.07.14 15:48:00 -
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Me..I would use my salvaging stabber. I would tractor beam them out of the atmosphere. That is if they even survive the 1,118MPH speed on their way out. And If I wanted to have fun a would turn the tractor beam off a few miles up and let the falling damage to its job. If I wanted to rule Azeroth I would get a BS with 8 salvager's muhahah! It's more fun this way rather than clicking the Win button/mod.
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Almiel
Gallente
Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2008.07.14 15:50:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Faife
ok, this is an unlikely scenario, but i figure better safe then sorry
so hypothetically, let's say you need to go 1v1 against a WOW character. what ship do you fly and how do you fit it?
let's go at it piece by piece:
first, protecting yourself. this turns out to be trivially easy cause WOW characters' attack ranges go from about 2 meters to maybe 200m for ultra long range attacks. even the insanely close orbit of 500 is enough here. cake. they can't hit you
2nd, holding the target in place. again, trivial. if the average human can go maybe bout 2 meters per second, then let's say a fully maxed, uber mount sort of character in WOW maybe can go, and being generous here, 20 meters per second. ha. at that point no reason to even web them. cake.
3rd, damaging them. here's where it gets tricky. a WOW character is on average 1m¦, judging by the size of exotic dancers in EVE. that's a mighty small size. a torpedo would do a whopping 1 point of damage. clearly not the way to go. rockets aren't much better, bringing a total 2.8 for a caldari faction one, even fit on a CNR you're still maybe bringing about 3 dps here. let's see if we can do better.
one thing that's annoying is that while you're target might be moving 0.5 m/s with a good web on him, he's still moving and therefore transversal rule apply. you'd figure at some point the game would round down to 0, but eh, whatever.
option 2: the thrasher.
3 mid slots, 3 target painter 2s. your target is up to 2.1m¦. very nice. more than doubled damage. next, 8 t2 125s. resolution size: 40m¦. means that you hit a bit over 1 in 20 shots. at full speed, we're talking a hit every 3 seconds. with skills damage: 20.1 or so, 8 dps.
well hm. those things have 5000ish hitpoints at level 70. can we do better?
how about a rapier/huginn then? seems a good idea for the target painting bonus. 6 mid slots, 6 t2 painters with V skills yields a target size of over 8m¦. well holy crap, that's bigger than a light drone. excellent.
now the low slots: all gyros. yes, they dont stack. so what. with maxed skills your damage just went up to x 1.91 (surgical strike, small turret, small AC spec). not too bad. 1 in every 5 shots hit, and they hit at 20 damage still (no ship bonus to smalls). since you only have 3 turrets this seems not much better ... right up until you remember you now have light drones. 5 of them. and your target is 8m¦. their resolution is 25m¦ so 1/3 hit. damage with full skills is 40ish. 40 dmg * 5 drones / 4 rof / 4 scan res = 12 dps. add it together, 20 dps or so.
problem: WOW chars have like 5000 hit points. well yeah, this will take a while. set it to orbit, go get a book. think of it like a small POS destruction, it'll take a good few minutes or so, specially for characters that do the various tricks to restore their health a few times. potions or whatever.
so yes, conclusion: if you end up in a fight against a WOW character then 1v1 your best bet is a rapier. for more ships, bring destroyers fit for killing small things (like light drones) and a rapier.
ADDENDUM: and finally, there's the wild card. the titan doomsday. not only is it size independent, but it's AOE. now you're talking. log in, warp over your favorite densely populated area, click, and count listen to the screaming in local. not available to most eve pilots, sadly
1. Smartbomb
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