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Glazios
Dark Star LTD
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Posted - 2008.07.14 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: Glazios on 14/07/2008 08:49:02 Let me set the stage... 
I came across an Impairor in Soba jet can mining into a can that was not his. I observed from my pilgrim for awhile and the owner of the can was flying around in a Slasher and later a Cormy with a bio that alluded to him being a total noob. He was in SWA and was a 2+ year.
"OH SHIT IT's a TRAP!"
So, I decide to lay a trap of my own. I warp in my alt in a plated gank Cane while I run my main to station and get my Oneiros. I spring the trap and moments latter my Cane is jumped by a Kronos. We engage and at half armor I warp in the logistics. I pop the Kronos much more quickly then I expect and run to scoop my faction lootz and this is what I find...
2008.07.14 03:12:00
Victim: ******** Corp: State War Academy Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Kronos System: Sobaseki Security: 0.8 Damage Taken: 37197
Involved parties:
Name: Glazios (laid the final blow) Security: -0.2 Corp: Dark Star LTD Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Hurricane Weapon: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II Damage Done: 37197
Destroyed items:
Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 4864 (Cargo) Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I (Cargo) Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II (Cargo) Fleeting Warp Scrambler I N-Type EM Hardener I (Cargo) Capacitor Control Circuit I, Qty: 2 N-Type Kinetic Hardener I (Cargo) Hobgoblin I, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay) Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Scan Resolution Anode Mega Neutron Particle Cannon I, Qty: 3 E50 Prototype Energy Vampire N-Type Reactive Membrane I Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 129 Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Dropped items:
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Capacitor Power Relay II Armor Explosive Hardener II (Cargo) N-Type Thermic Hardener I Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I, Qty: 2 Medium Nosferatu I N-Type Kinetic Hardener I (Cargo) Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Anode Mega Neutron Particle Cannon I E50 Prototype Energy Vampire Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 43 Hammerhead I, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay)
...a mostly T1 crap fit 800mil ship 
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Seetesh
Caldari Pixels Docks Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.14 09:49:00 -
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Do you think he use's Ebay?
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DudTrap
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2008.07.14 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: DudTrap on 14/07/2008 09:50:26
Originally by: Glazios I pop the Kronos much more quickly then I expect
You probably should have realised when this happened that someonthing was fishy :)A hurricane owning a kronos just isnt right :D
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.07.14 10:15:00 -
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WTF.. kronos took 37k damage.... think he forgot to turn on hes reps/hardeners/everything :P ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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ceyriot
Entropians on Vacation
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Posted - 2008.07.14 10:42:00 -
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 I get better loot from Condors...
Example 1:
2008.07.13 19:46
Victim: **** *** Corp: ******* Alliance: None Faction: NONE Destroyed: Condor System: ********** Security: 0.9 Damage Taken: 876
Involved parties:
Name: ceyriot (laid the final blow) Security: -1.3 Corp: Entropians on Vacation Alliance: None Faction: NONE Ship: Rifter Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II Damage Done: 876
Destroyed items:
'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher 'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher 150mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I Small Shield Booster I Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 1406 (Cargo)
Dropped items:
Phased Plasma S, Qty: 86 Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 90 Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Domination Overdrive Injector Phased Plasma S, Qty: 583 (Cargo)
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.14 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: ceyriot
 I get better loot from Condors...
Example 1:
2008.07.13 19:46
Victim: **** *** Corp: ******* Alliance: None Faction: NONE Destroyed: Condor System: ********** Security: 0.9 Damage Taken: 876
Involved parties:
Name: ceyriot (laid the final blow) Security: -1.3 Corp: Entropians on Vacation Alliance: None Faction: NONE Ship: Rifter Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II Damage Done: 876
Destroyed items:
'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher 'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher 150mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I Small Shield Booster I Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 1406 (Cargo)
Dropped items:
Phased Plasma S, Qty: 86 Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 90 Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Domination Overdrive Injector Phased Plasma S, Qty: 583 (Cargo)
I once killed a condor with 3 CCC rigs
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Steve Celeste
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Posted - 2008.07.14 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Celeste on 14/07/2008 14:05:13
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space hobo
Gallente DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2008.07.14 16:42:00 -
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noobs today have to much isk
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.14 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: space hobo noobs today have to much isk
I think it just goes to show level 4 missions just offer way too many rewards at near 0 risk..
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Kelron Queldine
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.14 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Firkragg
Originally by: ceyriot
 I get better loot from Condors...
I once killed a condor with 3 CCC rigs
I once killed a condor too.
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Commander Thrawn
the united
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Posted - 2008.07.14 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: DudTrap Edited by: DudTrap on 14/07/2008 09:50:26
Originally by: Glazios I pop the Kronos much more quickly then I expect
You probably should have realised when this happened that someonthing was fishy :)A hurricane owning a kronos just isnt right :D
basicly this.
he should have been able to permatank you and laugh about had it been a competant pilot
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Nefarious Noz
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Posted - 2008.07.14 19:55:00 -
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Quite a bit of training and equipment go into level 4 Int Sec missions. I am not sure what the other missions rewards are all about @ level 4. I would suppose that 0.0 ratting and 0.0 miners generate far superior ISK along with the possibility of decent loot, some of which sells in the $100M+ ISK range per drop. This is something you certainly do not get out of missions. LP does not compensate really. The ISK game is so dynamic these days, there are multitudes of options for generating vast cashflows.
I think the real problem is not what is being made in ISK but what has already been made. There are untold billions of ISK just banked away on various characters throughout the universe. Sure there have been measures to counter much of ill-gotten ends but there is vast quantities of ISK that are unaccounted for due to laundering.
So, in conclusion, don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Commander Thrawn
the united
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Posted - 2008.07.14 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nefarious Noz Quite a bit of training and equipment go into level 4 Int Sec missions. I am not sure what the other missions rewards are all about @ level 4. I would suppose that 0.0 ratting and 0.0 miners generate far superior ISK along with the possibility of decent loot, some of which sells in the $100M+ ISK range per drop. This is something you certainly do not get out of missions. LP does not compensate really. The ISK game is so dynamic these days, there are multitudes of options for generating vast cashflows.
I think the real problem is not what is being made in ISK but what has already been made. There are untold billions of ISK just banked away on various characters throughout the universe. Sure there have been measures to counter much of ill-gotten ends but there is vast quantities of ISK that are unaccounted for due to laundering.
So, in conclusion, don't hate the player, hate the game.
where you talking to us
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Dihania
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.14 20:38:00 -
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That's a big letdown. wow, don't know what to say. Maybe he was just taking it for a ride, getting the better fit for it in the future, but still, a big noob.
EVE:"The Hand-holding Age".
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.07.14 20:48:00 -
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This is very interesting. Please make a new thread.
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Commander Thrawn
the united
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Posted - 2008.07.14 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kirex This is very interesting. Please make a new thread.
This is very interesting. Please make a new thread.
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Xailz
Amarr Thunder Talons HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.07.14 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn
Originally by: Kirex This is very interesting. Please make a new thread.
This is very interesting. Please make a new thread.
This is very inperatising .. ow shit.. i did it wrong
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Glazios
Dark Star LTD
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Posted - 2008.07.15 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Xailz
Originally by: Commander Thrawn
Originally by: Kirex This is very interesting. Please make a new thread.
This is very interesting. Please make a new thread.
This is very inperatising .. ow shit.. i did it wrong
NO, you're doing it wrong!
which yea, pretty much sums it up.
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Orar Ironfist
Capital Produce
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Posted - 2008.07.15 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn
Originally by: Kirex This is very interesting. Please make a new thread.
This is very interesting. Please make a new thread.
This is very interesting. Please make a new thread.
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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Poast Warrior
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.07.15 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Riho WTF.. kronos took 37k damage.... think he forgot to turn on hes reps/hardeners/everything :P
Hardners wouldn't have made a difference on the damage received/given in the KM, since they don't increase your actual hitpoints.
/jus sayin'
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Avaricha Halo
Grail Seekers
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Posted - 2008.07.15 01:41:00 -
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Wicked story man! I love it!
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.15 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Poast Warrior
Originally by: Riho WTF.. kronos took 37k damage.... think he forgot to turn on hes reps/hardeners/everything :P
Hardners wouldn't have made a difference on the damage received/given in the KM, since they don't increase your actual hitpoints.
/jus sayin'
right but combined with the rep they slow down incoming damage, and he will be able to rep for longer.
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Nexus Kinnon
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.15 02:53:00 -
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I, for one, throughly enjoy repetitive "look at what i killed guys aren't i a good pvper" threads.
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Ethan Stealisk
The Valour Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.15 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: space hobo noobs today have to much isk
I think it just goes to show level 4 missions just offer way too many rewards at near 0 risk..
speak for yourself i keep dieing in lvl 4's :/ also we really dont get that much isk from them minning in 0.0 is far easier or ratting and killing the odd faction rat with the 300mil mod in its boot.
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.07.15 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ethan Stealisk
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: space hobo noobs today have to much isk
I think it just goes to show level 4 missions just offer way too many rewards at near 0 risk..
speak for yourself i keep dieing in lvl 4's :/ also we really dont get that much isk from them minning in 0.0 is far easier or ratting and killing the odd faction rat with the 300mil mod in its boot.
Then why don't you move to 0.0?
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.15 04:42:00 -
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Something tells me that the time this guy spent training Gallente Battleship V could have been better spent.
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Pete X
Minmatar Demonic Corp G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.07.15 08:49:00 -
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I vote you change the name of this topic " Yarr faction lewts .... o wait WTH!! " sounds much better
Quote: "This one time, a ninja was eating in a diner. Someone dropped a spoon and so he killed the entire town.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.15 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: techzer0 on 15/07/2008 10:49:40
Originally by: Commander Thrawn
Originally by: DudTrap Edited by: DudTrap on 14/07/2008 09:50:26
Originally by: Glazios I pop the Kronos much more quickly then I expect
You probably should have realised when this happened that someonthing was fishy :)A hurricane owning a kronos just isnt right :D
basicly this.
he should have been able to permatank you and laugh about had it been a competant pilot
I killed a T2 fit Kronos under sentry fire with a non-plated dual rep 'cane.
My help all bugged out on me because of sentries or the kronos shooting them but I gots ze killmail 
Edit: yeah... the one my alt killed took 38,000 damage from my alt alone... 73,000+ total  ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster 
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Drahkar
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Posted - 2008.07.17 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Drahkar on 17/07/2008 02:11:51 Edited by: Drahkar on 17/07/2008 02:08:07
Originally by: Glazios
Victim: Drahkar Corp: State War Academy Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Kronos System: Sobaseki Security: 0.8 Damage Taken: 37197
Involved parties:
Name: Glazios (laid the final blow) Security: -0.2 Corp: Dark Star LTD Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Hurricane Weapon: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II Damage Done: 37197
Fixed. Thanks for trying to save my dignity but that one is long dead. 
Yes, I'm the Kronos pilot.
Here's some clarifications about me :
1) My character is old but 1 year out of that age has been spent unsubscribed.
2) I usually change games often so I tend to avoid guilds (or corps, here in Eve) because I often get kicked during my breaks. I also play Eve mostly for fun and am not very interested in the "serious" side or whatever you call the whole corps & alliances wars.
3) I've spent most of my time running missions, but have turned into an ore thief about 3 months ago.
4) I've spent most of my ISK on collecting (usually crappy) ships. I kindof enjoy buying them more than I enjoy flying them, and I am the opposite of specialized as a consequence (intentionally).
5) I'm from Kisogo, not EBay. While I do get tired of Eve and take breaks, I'll never EBay my character because I always come back. Besides, I'm not poor IRL and only getting farther from it every year (but no, I don't buy ISK with real money).
6) I got most of my ISK (not that much) from running L3s, a bit from ore thieving and a bit from Jita trading on an alt. I've never really moved to L4s mostly because I hate the Raven with a passion (overused) and because I always hated the idea of facing warp scrambling frigs often, which are even scarier when you're in a crappy-targetting BS with turrets (which, unlike Ravens, I enjoy). The Kronos was originally an attempt at getting a turret BS that I would enjoy AND be able to run L4s with without having to worry much. I was still training to decent levels so I hadn't yet tried it in said L4s. However, having met a few BCs, a few BSs and way too many Drakes during my ore thieving career, I decided that my Kronos would be the perfect tool for killing them (my other PvP ship was a Rupture!). Note : I did get a few BC, BS and Drake kills before losing it, so at least the ship is immortalized in my killmails. 
7) The setup on that Kronos was a PvE setup hastily-modified into a PvP setup (changed to blasters, added tackling, sacrificed the modules that made me capstable, added an MWD). Had I taken the time to fit it for PvP from the ground up, it would most likely include a cap booster, meaning I would've actually had the cap to permarep with both reppers instead of bursting with only one of them. It also means I would've been using neuts, not NOS, most likely allowing me to at least warp out after finding out I couldn't break the tank of a Hurricane remote repped by an Oneiros.
8) Where's mah faction lootz? You don't get any for a few reasons : as I said, I enjoy buying and owning (as in, being the owner of) ships more than flying them, so it's much more satisfying for me to buy a Kronos, fit it with T2, fly it in a few L4s and spend the rest of my ISK on other pimp ships (and fit them with crappy stuff also). Also, I'm wary of suicide ganking, so fitting faction mods on an expensive hull would only put both the mods and the expensive ship at risk (although I've managed to throw the hull away quite stupidly, without the use of faction mods, haha!).
I hope that clears at least some of the confusion regarding the event described in the original post. I'll add more half-relevant info on me if I come up with any. If anyone has questions, feel free to ask. Btw Glazios, maybe you want to quote this post into your original one so that people actually read it before posting (yea right). Oh and good fight I guess. 
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Drahkar
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Posted - 2008.07.17 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: Drahkar on 17/07/2008 02:07:34 Double post. 
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